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| 06:34.51 | jm_ul | dataw0lf...? you awake? |
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| 15:03.44 | bigdog_ut | moring all |
| 15:08.31 | dataw0lf | moring to you too |
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| 18:47.30 | jm_ul|w | dataw0lf: you around? |
| 18:48.51 | jm_ul|w | anyone else know UbuntU? |
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| 18:50.33 | bigdog_ut | gentoo jm_ul|w |
| 18:50.38 | bigdog_ut | that is all i care to know |
| 18:51.13 | dataw0lf | jm_ul|w: what's up? |
| 18:52.12 | jm_ul|w | does ubuntu come with any command line utils that would allow me to burn files to a cd? I installed it yesterday at home but I'm without an internet connection because of my winmodem driver conflict with the 2.6.x kernel. I'd like to get some files onto a cd so I can transfer files to a computer that is internet capable so that I can post to the linmodem folks. I looked and I didn't see any gui app in the menu's that involved cd burning. |
| 18:53.19 | dataw0lf | cdrecord |
| 18:53.20 | bigdog_ut | what errors are you getting with the modem? |
| 18:53.43 | jm_ul|w | ubuntu simply won't see it |
| 18:54.18 | bigdog_ut | what have you done in terms of troubleshooting? |
| 18:56.25 | jm_ul|w | after using the scanModem utility, finding out the chipset, all the sites I'm finding are saying that the chipset I'm using is incompatible with the 2.6.x kernel. I wanted to upload a file to the linmodem people to make sure. If so, I guess I'm screwed because I don't know how to change my kernel version period. Apparently the driver I found only works with that kernel |
| 18:56.53 | jm_ul|w | ... 2.4.x |
| 18:57.12 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf might be able to help you get a 2.4.x kernel on ubuntu |
| 18:57.19 | dataw0lf | just buy a nic card. |
| 18:57.24 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 18:57.24 | dataw0lf | and get real internets |
| 18:57.49 | bigdog_ut | actually i bought a real modem for that reason |
| 18:58.02 | bigdog_ut | winmodems suck |
| 18:58.09 | cycokilr | here here |
| 18:58.11 | jm_ul|w | i live on campus.... school won't allow anyone to install anything in the family housing units. |
| 18:58.17 | bigdog_ut | get a 3com modem and that will be so much nicer |
| 18:58.28 | cycokilr | there's no wireless close by you can hack? |
| 18:59.05 | dataw0lf | the only 2.4.x packages in Ubuntu, afaik, are the source packages for 2.4.27, methinks. |
| 18:59.39 | bigdog_ut | so jm_ul|w would have to compile it |
| 19:00.15 | dataw0lf | correct. |
| 19:00.49 | bigdog_ut | jm_ul|w, cant you just buy a 3com modem of ebay or something? |
| 19:02.48 | mindjuju | jm, what school you going to? |
| 19:03.03 | jm_ul|w | well... I've never really used ebay other than looking for the going price of chevy trucks. i've made pretty much most of my computer type purchases from mwave. |
| 19:03.23 | bigdog_ut | you can try that too |
| 19:03.40 | jm_ul|w | Adams State College...... www.adams.edu |
| 19:03.48 | jm_ul|w | (southern colorado) |
| 19:03.52 | mindjuju | cause you may want to check with what the local nerds to see what they do |
| 19:04.29 | mindjuju | they may know of ways to get broadband in your area |
| 19:05.17 | mindjuju | if you can afford it. You have to remember that datawolf is a bachleor and run's on a bachleor's budget |
| 19:05.36 | mindjuju | while us married folk have a different monetary standard |
| 19:05.55 | mindjuju | except for bigdog who lives on the gravy train |
| 19:07.59 | jm_ul|w | heh.... well, there are no options for broadband on campus. When I need to make a call I have to dial a 9 which goes through a campus phone system so there is no option for dsl. I've checked with the local cable company and they said that *maybe* in about 3 years they might have equipment in place to offer internet services for campus housing. So I'm stuck with dialup. I did hear of a wireless project they are working on.... |
| 19:08.12 | jm_ul|w | ....I heard best case scenario is August |
| 19:08.26 | jm_ul|w | I guess I can wait until then |
| 19:09.21 | jm_ul|w | I thought I'd try and learn a little by tinkering with a winmodem |
| 19:10.23 | mindjuju | sounds like you really are up the creek. i think you'll see enough performance boost having your modem do all of its thinking that you'd want to stay away from a winmodem, like bigdog was saying |
| 19:10.45 | mindjuju | plus like your experiencing, a lot of software overhead |
| 19:11.03 | mindjuju | did you buy the modem already or is it an old one that is just laying around? |
| 19:12.10 | jm_ul|w | I bought it 2 years ago when broadband wasn't an option for me. It was a $9 officemax special |
| 19:12.36 | mindjuju | oh awesome, so not big investment |
| 19:13.13 | jm_ul|w | nope.... didn't want it to be because i knew someday I'll be back on broadband |
| 19:13.50 | mindjuju | here's something i just foudn super quick |
| 19:13.50 | jm_ul|w | I have an ethernet card already in place and I know it works fine....just nothing to connect it to. heh. |
| 19:13.51 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14920&item=6782502391&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 19:14.02 | mindjuju | and it even comes with blinkenlights! how trendy is that! |
| 19:14.59 | mindjuju | ugh, wait, that's on a serial cable, you'll get a bottleneck right there |
| 19:15.00 | jm_ul|w | sweet....i can tell where it is when it gets dark =P |
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| 19:16.41 | jm_ul|w | I hate those boxes that have the neon lights....plain jane mini or mid tower that can cool off the silicon is good enough for me |
| 19:17.07 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: don't hate cuz I got the monies. |
| 19:17.17 | jm_ul|w | heh |
| 19:17.18 | mindjuju | dood, i'm a total hater |
| 19:17.26 | mindjuju | i have a budget and an allowance |
| 19:17.41 | mindjuju | i remember the good ole days when i could buy what i wanted, when, and how much |
| 19:18.05 | mindjuju | new vid card, sure, just buy it out right, oh wait, i get a coupon for $20 off my $300 vid card, cool |
| 19:18.12 | dataw0lf | ain't no woman ever telling me what I can spend my money on. |
| 19:18.18 | dataw0lf | she'll be too busy with the dishes. |
| 19:18.35 | mindjuju | now its like can i spend $80 on a vid card without rocking the boat |
| 19:19.06 | cycokilr | yeah, we'll see dw |
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| 19:19.12 | cycokilr | they all say that.. |
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| 19:19.33 | mindjuju | it'll probably wind up that datawolf will be washing the dishes! |
| 19:19.38 | cycokilr | yep |
| 19:20.23 | dataw0lf | pshaw |
| 19:20.34 | cycokilr | i found your new mugshot man.. |
| 19:20.37 | cycokilr | it's on there now.. |
| 19:20.54 | jm_ul|w | the trick is to marry someone who loves a good video card as much as you. heh |
| 19:21.04 | cycokilr | good thinking man.. |
| 19:21.14 | cycokilr | dw, wanna get married? |
| 19:21.31 | mindjuju | you can tell he does. |
| 19:21.44 | mindjuju | he's proly pining after some woman as we speak |
| 19:21.51 | cycokilr | he probably checkin out the pic i made of him.. and all upset about it.. |
| 19:21.59 | cycokilr | http://woodenpickle.com/dw/dw.html |
| 19:22.23 | dataw0lf | hawt |
| 19:22.59 | dataw0lf | heh. |
| 19:23.04 | dataw0lf | did you draw those tattoos on too? |
| 19:23.11 | mindjuju | hilarious! |
| 19:23.11 | dataw0lf | cuz I don't have tattoos like that. |
| 19:23.23 | cycokilr | no, but i think the people makin' fun of that girl orig did.. |
| 19:23.32 | cycokilr | she's like some radio dj or something.. |
| 19:25.54 | mindjuju | jm, i'd check with dw, but here is a us robotics that is USB and not win modem |
| 19:25.54 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14920&item=6782502980&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 19:26.11 | jm_ul|w | thx |
| 19:26.23 | mindjuju | $12 shipping though, ugh, hate it when people do that |
| 19:29.20 | mindjuju | and now the news... |
| 19:29.27 | mindjuju | a light or a freight train at the end of this tunnel? MS and RSS |
| 19:29.27 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/121662 |
| 19:29.42 | mindjuju | NASA sued for $300 million on claims of "moral suffering" |
| 19:29.42 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/russia_comet_case |
| 19:29.42 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.42 | mindjuju | AOL not so lame after all! Live 8 performances available (video) |
| 19:29.42 | mindjuju | http://music.channel.aol.com/live_8_concert/london_philly_toronto |
| 19:29.56 | mindjuju | Xmen 3 to get "spiced up" with inclusion of a new mutant not in comics |
| 19:29.56 | mindjuju | http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2005-07-04/#celeb7 |
| 19:29.56 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.56 | mindjuju | Science Magainze's top 25 unanswered questions |
| 19:29.56 | mindjuju | http://www.sciencemag.org/sciext/125th/ |
| 19:30.38 | mindjuju | dw, that last one there is for you, though you'd get a kick out of it |
| 19:33.07 | cycokilr | you have to have USB? |
| 19:33.27 | mindjuju | well, you don't have to, but you do get a performance hit using serial cable |
| 19:33.39 | cycokilr | no internal? |
| 19:34.16 | mindjuju | oh, i see your question. you know, i can't remember the last time i saw an internal modem that wasn't a winmodem |
| 19:34.27 | jm_ul|w | I don't know if $35 or higher (including shipping) is worth it though. the wireless project is supposed to be done at the end of august and then I could use my ethernet card. I think I'll have to do some searching because I think anything over $15 would be too expensive at this point |
| 19:34.31 | cycokilr | USR makes the 2977 that is still.. |
| 19:35.02 | cycokilr | i know ebc sells it down in orem for like 35 or 37 bucks.. |
| 19:35.12 | cycokilr | i've used them and they work fine in linux.. |
| 19:36.18 | mindjuju | jm, if your going wireless, why not combine? this will easily fit in your budget under cooking appliance |
| 19:36.19 | mindjuju | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000510037092/ |
| 19:37.28 | cycokilr | i thought the whole appeal of pda's is that they are pocket sized? |
| 19:37.30 | mindjuju | this page shows people who have taken household item wifi |
| 19:37.31 | mindjuju | http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz/ |
| 19:40.03 | cycokilr | there you go.. 9 bucks.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16825180001 |
| 19:41.14 | jm_ul|w | cool...thats a possibility |
| 19:41.40 | cycokilr | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11851.html |
| 19:41.45 | mindjuju | not bad! but can you make general tsao's chicken on it? |
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| 20:05.41 | jm_ul|w | hmm... i came across that suggestion....using sl-modem drivers but they said that "those sometimes work" |
| 21:00.34 | bigdog_ut | jm_ul|w, whatz the verdict? |
| 21:02.14 | mindjuju | he's going with the wok cuz then he can get wifi and general tsao's chicken |
| 21:02.35 | mindjuju | and what computer nerd doesn't like general tsao's? |
| 21:21.18 | jm_ul|w | heh....looks like it's going to be over my head to keep tinkering....I've never compiled a kernel let a lone go back a couple of revisions. I'd need someone present that knows more than myself....so more than likely, I'll be looking into that encore modem on newegg.com |
| 21:22.16 | mindjuju | What!!!! No General Tsao's chichen? What have we become! ugh, how depresing |
| 21:24.56 | jm_ul|w | hey...i'm into chicken as much as the next guy but I can't cook....unless producing burnt or blan tasting food is considered cooking. |
| 21:26.38 | jm_ul|w | is General Tsao's chicken on the menu for the bbq? |
| 21:26.58 | jm_ul|w | =) |
| 21:27.53 | mindjuju | proly no |
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| 22:54.44 | jm_ul|w | what would the forward slash mean in this line.... echo "<BR><IMG SRC=\"./hangman$wrong.gif\"><BR>"; |
| 22:56.23 | jm_ul|w | current (windows/apache) directory? |
| 23:06.27 | Utah_Dave | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.42 | Utah_Dave | It's called "escaping" |
| 23:07.19 | eco|w | He was asking about the forward slash. |
| 23:07.46 | eco|w | And yes, it means the current directory. |
| 23:10.11 | jm_ul|w | thx eco and thx for the other info Utah_Dave |
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