| 00:32.55 | *** join/#uphpu gthornock (~gthornock@158.91.203.11) |
| 03:15.42 | *** join/#uphpu gthornock (~gthornock@158.91.203.11) |
| 03:30.44 | *** join/#uphpu zardinuk (~jeff@c-24-2-70-216.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:12.11 | *** join/#uphpu beandog (~steve@c-67-182-203-10.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 08:01.55 | *** join/#uphpu eco (identd@c-24-10-128-63.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 12:26.31 | *** join/#uphpu nathang_ (~nathang@207.108.169.214) |
| 13:11.41 | *** join/#uphpu drewbono (~andrew@pcp02403303pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net) |
| 13:42.59 | dataw0lf | woohoo |
| 13:43.03 | dataw0lf | good morning gentlemens |
| 13:53.29 | nathang_ | Good morning |
| 13:53.33 | nathang_ | a little late |
| 13:53.41 | nathang_ | but still good :) |
| 13:53.58 | dataw0lf | sup nathang_ |
| 13:54.08 | nathang_ | not much |
| 13:54.15 | nathang_ | you? |
| 13:55.35 | dataw0lf | pretty tired. |
| 13:59.41 | nathang_ | me too |
| 13:59.48 | nathang_ | too many late nights |
| 14:01.37 | *** join/#uphpu wps (~wade@207.108.169.214) |
| 14:01.41 | *** mode/#uphpu [+o wps] by ChanServ |
| 14:14.04 | dataw0lf | morning wps |
| 14:17.14 | wps | yo |
| 14:18.22 | dataw0lf | whatcha up to? |
| 14:20.11 | xilch|w | scroheart! |
| 14:20.29 | dataw0lf | <3 |
| 14:21.54 | wps | just got done reading the morning news |
| 14:22.17 | wps | and just finished listening to a podcast about how to hammer in a nail |
| 14:23.15 | *** join/#uphpu bigdog_ut (~bigdog@166.70.34.182) |
| 14:23.16 | *** mode/#uphpu [+o bigdog_ut] by ChanServ |
| 14:24.45 | dataw0lf | wps: heh |
| 14:31.38 | *** join/#uphpu beandog (~sdibb@64.50.56.200) |
| 14:31.50 | beandog | anyone else noticed yahoo messenger is going dog slow |
| 14:33.26 | dataw0lf | negative |
| 14:34.26 | bigdog_ut | negative |
| 14:35.12 | bigdog_ut | wow sun has a laptop know |
| 14:35.22 | wps | bigdog_ut: url? |
| 14:35.29 | bigdog_ut | http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/29/2215223&from=rss |
| 14:35.47 | bigdog_ut | http://www.technewsworld.com/story/44210.html |
| 14:36.14 | wps | no pics? |
| 14:36.16 | wps | lamo |
| 14:36.48 | dataw0lf | dude. I want a Sun laptop. |
| 14:38.19 | bigdog_ut | http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/images/content/prodpics/200506/Sun-Ultra-3-Mobile-Workstat.jpg |
| 14:38.32 | bigdog_ut | ultra3 64-bit sparc |
| 14:38.50 | bigdog_ut | 1ghz ether |
| 14:38.51 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 14:39.03 | bigdog_ut | solaris10- |
| 14:39.21 | bigdog_ut | 2gig ram |
| 14:39.44 | bigdog_ut | i would take sun hardware any day |
| 14:40.48 | nathang_ | very nice |
| 14:41.01 | nathang_ | very pricey too |
| 14:41.10 | bigdog_ut | oh yeah |
| 14:41.23 | bigdog_ut | but for that hardware if you need it...it is the best |
| 14:41.32 | dataw0lf | it's like automagickal cool if you have a Sun laptop |
| 14:42.29 | nathang_ | I believe it. You get what you pay for |
| 14:42.48 | nathang_ | I wish I could be automagickal cool :) |
| 14:48.20 | bigdog_ut | sorry...unless u have the sun laptop you cannot be cool like me |
| 14:51.03 | nathang_ | :'( |
| 14:51.18 | nathang_ | Now all my hopes and dreams have been crushed |
| 14:51.24 | nathang_ | I hope you're happy! |
| 14:54.10 | *** join/#uphpu jm_ul|w (~vircuser@12.125.156.114) |
| 15:08.56 | *** join/#uphpu gthornock (~gthornock@translate.sento.com) |
| 15:09.56 | *** join/#uphpu bobert_ (~bobert@216.20.238.225) |
| 15:11.21 | *** part/#uphpu bobert_ (~bobert@216.20.238.225) |
| 15:30.55 | *** join/#uphpu drewbono (~andrew@pcp02403303pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:39.33 | *** join/#uphpu fungus (~fungus@2001:470:1f00:645:20a:95ff:fec5:636a) |
| 15:49.12 | *** join/#uphpu drip (~scoobmast@67.108.238.129.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 15:57.58 | *** join/#uphpu greygnome (~greygnome@69.2.248.20) |
| 16:03.59 | jm_ul|w | bigdot_ut: I was wanting a one user (if it comes with more users that's fine) for xp professional. xp comes with a built in smtp function? |
| 16:04.32 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Phlyte group project meeting Tonight at 7pm! |
| 16:05.20 | dataw0lf | jm_ul|w: yeah, XP Pro has a built in smtp service. |
| 16:05.50 | jm_ul|w | hm... my php mail script didn't work when I had my php.ini script set to localhost. |
| 16:06.08 | jm_ul|w | does it have to be enable some way? |
| 16:06.10 | bigdog_ut | make sure it is on |
| 16:06.16 | jm_ul|w | or is enabled by default? |
| 16:06.22 | bigdog_ut | it might not usre |
| 16:06.23 | mindjuju | which web server are you using? |
| 16:06.24 | bigdog_ut | sure |
| 16:06.29 | jm_ul|w | apache |
| 16:06.33 | mindjuju | not on by default if IIS |
| 16:09.11 | *** join/#uphpu wps (~wade@207.108.169.214) |
| 16:09.15 | *** mode/#uphpu [+o wps] by ChanServ |
| 16:14.47 | mindjuju | jm, let's see if you have that option up and running |
| 16:15.06 | mindjuju | jump over to add remove progs |
| 16:17.50 | mindjuju | have you gotten that far, or have you already enabled smtp service? |
| 16:18.32 | jm_ul|w | don't know how enable in xp.... i was just googling it |
| 16:18.44 | mindjuju | i'll guide if you like |
| 16:18.53 | mindjuju | go to add remove progs |
| 16:18.56 | jm_ul|w | sure...im in add-remove now |
| 16:19.15 | mindjuju | k, third button on left col is add remove win components |
| 16:19.16 | mindjuju | click that |
| 16:19.27 | mindjuju | this might take a moment |
| 16:19.52 | jm_ul|w | i'm there |
| 16:20.27 | mindjuju | click on internet info services |
| 16:20.32 | jm_ul|w | ok...there |
| 16:20.33 | mindjuju | smtp service is there |
| 16:20.59 | jm_ul|w | yeah....and it's checked.... i wonder why my script didn't work then |
| 16:21.09 | jm_ul|w | crap....be back in a minute....user needs help. |
| 16:22.18 | macnewbold | "installed" != "enabled" probably... |
| 16:22.26 | macnewbold | though I don't know how you'd go about enabling it |
| 16:22.41 | macnewbold | you could check in the admin tools if it was running or not though |
| 16:22.48 | macnewbold | ~waa |
| 16:22.51 | macnewbold | ~utwaa |
| 16:23.06 | bigdog_ut | there is an enable feature in the admin tools |
| 16:23.12 | macnewbold | you could also ask in #utah - the people from Windows Admins Anonymous could probably help |
| 16:23.27 | macnewbold | http://utwaa.org/ |
| 16:23.50 | macnewbold | ~utwaa is Utah Windows Admins Anonymous - http://utwaa.org/ and in #utah |
| 16:23.50 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 16:23.59 | macnewbold | ~waa is see utwaa |
| 16:24.00 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 16:24.02 | macnewbold | ~waa |
| 16:24.02 | jbot | it has been said that waa is see utwaa |
| 16:24.15 | macnewbold | ~no, waa is <reply> see utwaa |
| 16:24.28 | macnewbold | ~waa |
| 16:24.28 | jbot | i heard waa is see utwaa |
| 16:24.38 | macnewbold | jbot, no, waa is <reply> see utwaa |
| 16:24.38 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 16:24.42 | macnewbold | ~waa |
| 16:24.42 | jbot | i guess utwaa is Utah Windows Admins Anonymous - http://utwaa.org/ and in #utah |
| 16:36.14 | jm_ul|w | ok back |
| 16:37.12 | mindjuju | mac and bigdog were suggeting that you check some sort of admin panel in apache |
| 16:37.12 | jm_ul|w | mindjuju: is there a way to test the built in smtp on xp? |
| 16:37.52 | mindjuju | i've always used script to test, but the script has always been vbscript |
| 16:37.55 | mindjuju | and requires IIS |
| 16:38.01 | jm_ul|w | ok... I'll look around in apache |
| 16:39.19 | *** join/#uphpu drewbono (~andrew@pcp02403303pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net) |
| 16:40.27 | mindjuju | this page is offering some tips on testing |
| 16:40.28 | mindjuju | http://www.petri.co.il/test_smtp_service.htm |
| 16:40.33 | jm_ul|w | well....I plan on converting to linux one day when I'm able to get my home box "internet" enabled and so I'd like to work with apache instead. |
| 16:40.40 | macnewbold | jm_ul|w: there's a place in the admin tools (not the apache conf.) that you can use to check on and enable the smtp service |
| 16:40.48 | macnewbold | yes, use apache |
| 16:43.24 | jm_ul|w | i'm still looking for admin tools but not seeing it in the apache menu |
| 16:43.35 | mindjuju | jm, after you've checked where mac is telling you, if your still having problems, you can follow these steps from microsoft to see if there is a problem with the smtp service |
| 16:43.36 | mindjuju | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q153119/ |
| 16:43.42 | jm_ul|w | or are we talking about the admin tools in the control panel? |
| 16:43.54 | bigdog_ut | control panel |
| 16:44.38 | jm_ul|w | thanks mindjuju =) I'm going to check admin tools then check out those sites |
| 16:46.23 | jm_ul|w | well...it's running as a service |
| 16:46.57 | mindjuju | jm, super quick, are you using windows xp with service pack 2? |
| 16:47.04 | jm_ul|w | no... sp1 |
| 16:47.19 | mindjuju | hmm, was thinking for a sec it was the firewall |
| 16:48.48 | jm_ul|w | i don't like the way ie acts after sp2 is installed. i don't even use it though unless I want to look at a site that firefox can't really display all that well. |
| 17:00.57 | mindjuju | so, jm, what is the error your getting? |
| 17:01.51 | macnewbold | discussion about a pre-meeting dinner get-together is happening now on the mailing list... check it out |
| 17:02.57 | jm_ul|w | there isn't an error... mail just doesn't get to the destination. It goes if I use the exchange server address here at work. But when I do testing at home I'd like to use my own computer |
| 17:04.31 | jm_ul|w | I'm looking at this... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q153119/ |
| 17:05.06 | mindjuju | In that case, it may not be an error with the smtp service. had this problem happen before when generating emails from a webserver, and sending to a email box with heavy spam filters. |
| 17:05.34 | mindjuju | it turned out to be the spam filter was catching everything that wasn't sent through a true smtp server, like exchange |
| 17:05.45 | mindjuju | or wasn't being relayed through a smtp server |
| 17:05.46 | jm_ul|w | when on step #4 typing "rcpt to:user@domain.com" .... I get "550 5.7.1 unable to relay for " ... |
| 17:05.47 | bigdog_ut | what are you using for as "from" |
| 17:05.50 | jm_ul|w | the address I put in |
| 17:06.03 | bigdog_ut | y |
| 17:06.29 | mindjuju | so, the emails would arrive at anonymous email accounts like yahoo, gmail, etc, but wouldn't arrive at many domains |
| 17:07.30 | jm_ul|w | what does the "unable to relay" message mean? is that a network issue? |
| 17:08.00 | mindjuju | it means that your firing an email to an email server who doesn't want to forward that email for you |
| 17:08.37 | macnewbold | i.e. your smtp server is talking to a server that doesn't handle mail for domain.com, |
| 17:08.48 | macnewbold | and doesn't have anything special set up to make it like you |
| 17:08.59 | mindjuju | yeah, it prevents spammers from doing the same |
| 17:09.12 | macnewbold | you may need to use smtpauth, or get that server set up to like your box |
| 17:09.28 | macnewbold | or your smtp needs to contact the destination smtp server directly |
| 17:10.07 | jm_ul|w | so basically I'll have to use my exchange server then to do testing at work. I'm not sure what will happen at home....haven't tested my php mail script there yet. |
| 17:12.07 | mindjuju | well, the mail script should work, but only certain email boxes will receive. Yahoo seemed to be the most forgiving of all the free email services |
| 17:14.25 | jm_ul|w | i actually tried emailing my yahoo address but it didn't get there...my gmail account didn't get it either |
| 17:16.17 | mindjuju | k, let's check something double quick |
| 17:16.25 | mindjuju | go back to control panel |
| 17:16.33 | jm_ul|w | only addresses it works for are internal addresses |
| 17:16.47 | jm_ul|w | ...from our exchange server |
| 17:17.03 | jm_ul|w | in the control panel |
| 17:17.17 | mindjuju | go administrative tools |
| 17:17.27 | mindjuju | go Internet information systems |
| 17:17.48 | mindjuju | left col, look for default smtp virtual server |
| 17:18.10 | mindjuju | click once on that word and look right |
| 17:18.25 | mindjuju | in gray toolbar area, the triangle shape is grayed out, right? |
| 17:19.06 | jm_ul|w | yeah....the "play" symbol is greyed out |
| 17:19.15 | jm_ul|w | or start |
| 17:19.22 | jm_ul|w | or whatever it's officially called |
| 17:19.44 | mindjuju | right click on default smtp vir server |
| 17:19.47 | mindjuju | and go properties |
| 17:20.12 | jm_ul|w | there |
| 17:20.32 | mindjuju | click delivery tab along top |
| 17:20.43 | jm_ul|w | there |
| 17:21.19 | jm_ul|w | advanced button? |
| 17:21.22 | mindjuju | now, lets pause for a moment, want to be sure i'm understanding. if your emailing somebody in your company, the email is arriving, but once you leave your company, the email never arrives, right? |
| 17:21.39 | jm_ul|w | yes |
| 17:21.56 | jm_ul|w | when I use the exchange server as my smtp within the php.ini |
| 17:22.19 | jm_ul|w | but nothing goes nowhere when I insert localhost |
| 17:22.25 | jm_ul|w | ...in the php.ini |
| 17:22.35 | mindjuju | what happens when you put , yeah, was going to ask about local host |
| 17:23.20 | mindjuju | so, here is what i think is the deal and what you should do |
| 17:23.27 | jm_ul|w | k |
| 17:23.48 | mindjuju | the script obviously works as it arrives in certain circumstances, without generating a scipting error |
| 17:24.11 | mindjuju | and, apache and smtp service on your computer seem to be ok, as again, it arrives in certain circumstances |
| 17:24.23 | mindjuju | the question really is, what is exchange doing with the emails? |
| 17:24.45 | jm_ul|w | i don't know....other than delivering the messages. |
| 17:25.03 | mindjuju | exchange may have been told not to relay though |
| 17:25.08 | jm_ul|w | not sure if I want to mess with our exchange server....I don't maintain it |
| 17:25.20 | mindjuju | are you exchange admin also, or is that another person? |
| 17:26.17 | mindjuju | well, if you can't go the exchange route, then you'll need to figure out why localhost wasn't firing your message |
| 17:26.28 | jm_ul|w | I have access to it but would rather not mess with it since I'd like to keep my job. |
| 17:27.08 | mindjuju | though coincidentally, i was in a situation very similar to yours where I had IIS running on a box, and had PHP installed. i could send to the anonymous email accounts i was telling you about, but i couldn't send to the exchange server |
| 17:27.28 | jm_ul|w | The guy that maintains it, questions my every action on any of the servers |
| 17:28.30 | bigdog_ut | cause he is a windows *ss |
| 17:28.47 | jm_ul|w | heh |
| 17:29.01 | *** join/#uphpu nathang_ (~nathang@207.108.169.214) |
| 17:29.21 | jm_ul|w | he likes power i guess.... claims to be a bsd expert though....I don't know enough to call him on it. |
| 17:32.34 | *** join/#uphpu optikal (~optikal@64.50.125.200) |
| 17:32.44 | jm_ul|w | I'm trying to create a developing position here before I graduate. he can have the server admin stuff. I'm not even in the i.t. dept but I do the same work and the director thought I should have the administrator password. I think that got under his skin when he found out. |
| 17:33.55 | dataw0lf | yeah, it'd get under my skin too ;) |
| 17:40.21 | mindjuju | well, in the words of dataw0lf, "grab your cahones and jump in". you can either go in and fix the exchange server to allow relaying in an authorized login case, or establish a remote relay server somewhere to bounce your messages off of |
| 17:40.44 | mindjuju | though i'd do the exchange server stuff after hours |
| 17:41.00 | mindjuju | but then again, how much win admin experience you got? |
| 17:41.42 | mindjuju | by the way, datawolf, you said that at the last uphpu meeting when you were talking about taking the dive into linux |
| 17:42.03 | jm_ul|w | heh... most of my server experience is novell 3.12 and 4.11 |
| 17:42.53 | jm_ul|w | some NT 4 experience.... don't know much of the new stuff |
| 17:45.20 | mindjuju | this ms article should prove conclusively if the exchange server is not relaying |
| 17:45.21 | mindjuju | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=304897 |
| 17:45.28 | jm_ul|w | dataw0lf: I'm kinda slow on the uptake .. but it would get under your skin if I had your WINDOWS..... network admin password? =P |
| 17:45.31 | mindjuju | though circumstationally, i think we not pretty well |
| 17:45.52 | mindjuju | s/not/know |
| 17:46.08 | jm_ul|w | cool...i'll read it over |
| 17:47.38 | mindjuju | so, jm, out of curiosity, when you had php set to localhost, did you ever try to send messages to yahoo accounts? |
| 17:47.42 | mindjuju | if so, did they arrive? |
| 17:48.02 | jm_ul|w | mindjuju: no messages went anywhere |
| 17:48.09 | jm_ul|w | internal or external |
| 17:49.56 | jm_ul|w | I think it could be something on the network....i'll know once I'm able to test it out at home. |
| 17:50.44 | dataw0lf | jm_ul|w: yeah, it'd piss me off. |
| 17:51.04 | jm_ul|w | dataw0lf: how was your hawt date last night? did you two do a ubuntu install on her computer? |
| 17:51.18 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 17:51.23 | dataw0lf | we had fun. |
| 17:51.26 | jm_ul|w | cool |
| 17:55.24 | *** join/#uphpu optikal (~optikal@64.50.125.200) |
| 17:56.34 | *** join/#uphpu wps_ (~wade@207.108.169.214) |
| 17:57.31 | *** mode/#uphpu [+o wps] by ChanServ |
| 17:57.32 | *** join/#uphpu drewbono (~andrew@pcp02403303pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net) |
| 17:58.48 | macnewbold | so dataw0lf, are you bringing your date tonight to dinner and a Phlyte party? |
| 18:40.16 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: nah, she's busy. |
| 18:40.57 | greygnome | Sure, your just ashamed of us. :) |
| 18:46.32 | dataw0lf | nah, seriously, if she wasn't busy I'd probably see if she wanted to come along. she's smrter than all of yous. |
| 19:08.23 | jm_ul|w | dataw0lf: would you ever trust riding on those chinook helicopters? seems like whenever I hear about an aircraft going down...it's one of those. |
| 19:08.54 | dataw0lf | jm_ul|w: apaches are much, much worse. |
| 19:09.01 | dataw0lf | jm_ul|w: I've ridden in a chinook several times. |
| 19:09.25 | dataw0lf | see, when chopper pilots in the Army get out of school, the best go into blackhawk, the middle guys go into chinooks, and the worse go into apaches. |
| 19:09.30 | dataw0lf | honest to god. |
| 19:09.55 | jm_ul|w | heh... oh man |
| 19:10.34 | dataw0lf | yeah, plus, apaches aren't like, you know, 'regular' choppers, you look through this nv/radar screen, there's no real 'view port' |
| 19:14.44 | jm_ul|w | what did you think of that cheesy flick called "Firebirds"....has Nicholas Cage and Tommy Lee Jones. I pretty much hate that movie. |
| 19:15.05 | dataw0lf | never seen it. |
| 19:16.31 | *** join/#uphpu gthornock (~gthornock@translate.sento.com) |
| 19:29.17 | *** join/#uphpu tierra (~tierra@dsl093-225-126.slc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 19:38.49 | drip | I hate Nicholas Cage and I think it all stems back to that movie. |
| 19:39.04 | drip | him sitting there screaming out 500000 times.. "I am the greatest!!" |
| 19:49.03 | jm_ul|w | I wonder if he put that in the script |
| 20:06.44 | *** join/#uphpu nathang_ (~nathang@207.108.169.214) |
| 20:18.19 | *** join/#uphpu nathang_ (~nathang@207.108.169.214) |
| 20:18.40 | *** join/#uphpu zardinuk (~jeff@vulcan.americom.com) |
| 20:21.00 | mindjuju | nick cage was in blues brothers |
| 20:24.12 | macnewbold | I thought that was akroyd and belushi? |
| 20:25.00 | mindjuju | well, sure, they are the main guys, but for 2 seconds at the very end where they are performing in prison, the very first guy to jump up and dance is nick cage |
| 20:25.08 | mindjuju | you see if face good for about 2 seconds |
| 20:29.05 | macnewbold | phlyte people: discussion about dinner in #phlyte now |
| 20:29.13 | macnewbold | it looks like we're going to meet and eat before the meeting |
| 20:31.24 | jm_ul|w | mmm....food |
| 20:40.34 | *** join/#uphpu eco (identd@c-24-10-128-63.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:58.40 | mindjuju | ...and now the news... |
| 20:58.51 | mindjuju | *cough* delete kazaa quick! |
| 20:58.52 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050630/ap_on_hi_te/internet_piracy |
| 20:58.58 | mindjuju | the fish was this big! |
| 20:58.58 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050630/481/xbk10206300509 |
| 20:59.05 | tierra | people still use kazaa?! |
| 20:59.05 | mindjuju | What the Jones were they thinking! |
| 20:59.05 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050629/481/mo10106291746 |
| 20:59.05 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.05 | mindjuju | Just who should control the internet? |
| 20:59.05 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050630/ap_on_hi_te/internet_control |
| 20:59.32 | mindjuju | well, it's a header, familiar to most people |
| 20:59.48 | mindjuju | i actually bit torrent all my public domain downloads |
| 21:21.43 | bigdog_ut | rule 1b. dont hardcode urls in enterprise applications |
| 21:22.01 | bigdog_ut | rule 1c. shoot yourself if you hardcode urls in enterprise apps |
| 21:23.17 | *** join/#uphpu eco|w (~eco@dsl093-225-126.slc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 21:23.36 | drip | but then how are you going to get paid to have to fix it later? |
| 21:23.39 | drip | =P |
| 21:24.06 | dataw0lf | people still use bittorrent?? |
| 21:25.01 | fungus | Of course it is the only way I can catch The Daily Show, Six Feet Under, etc. |
| 21:25.45 | mindjuju | well not people like you, datawolf |
| 21:25.53 | mindjuju | cause your uB3rl337 |
| 21:26.24 | dataw0lf | damn straight. |
| 21:26.38 | mindjuju | so, ah, what you using on that side? |
| 21:26.50 | dataw0lf | >:) |
| 21:27.10 | dataw0lf | MindBullet, of course. |
| 21:28.30 | mindjuju | go go gadget google |
| 21:29.31 | mindjuju | to elite for google |
| 21:29.38 | dataw0lf | yup. |
| 21:30.53 | mindjuju | is it membership ftp site? |
| 21:34.14 | mindjuju | by your silence, i can tell i'm not l337 enough for the knowledge |
| 21:35.19 | dataw0lf | actually, it was just a pop culture reference that you didn't catch ;) |
| 21:37.34 | mindjuju | so, during the last php meeting, datawolf, you mentioned some mailing lists to be on for security notifications and to generally be up todate on what is going on in security |
| 21:37.38 | mindjuju | what were some of those sites? |
| 21:38.34 | macnewbold | freebsd-security@lists.freebsd.org |
| 21:38.36 | macnewbold | :) |
| 21:40.57 | dataw0lf | 1) any security mailing list for any services you run 2) BugTraq, CERT, SecurePoint, Full Disclosure 3) Linux kernel development list |
| 21:41.06 | dataw0lf | those are the big ones. |
| 21:41.14 | dataw0lf | mebbe Neohapsis |
| 21:41.28 | mindjuju | i check the archives, but not very often |
| 21:41.35 | mindjuju | wish they had rss |
| 21:41.43 | dataw0lf | yeah. |
| 21:42.01 | dataw0lf | oh, some of the SecurityFocus mailing lists are ok, but usually they're a bunch of retards who don't know what they're talking about. |
| 21:45.03 | macnewbold | the official ones are usually the best, IMHO, since the crap gets filtered first |
| 21:45.26 | macnewbold | and they're real reports, that give you all the details about the problem, workarounds, and patches |
| 21:45.30 | mindjuju | k, so when I did monitor neophasis, i just got overload on data, not all relative to me. what have ya'll found to be effective in parsing out the good from the bad on sites like neophasis |
| 21:45.49 | macnewbold | well, I just don't use it :) |
| 21:45.58 | macnewbold | the FreeBSD list of course is my main one |
| 21:46.04 | macnewbold | if I were going to do another, it would probably be CERT |
| 21:46.18 | mindjuju | isn't freebsd, just for freebsd? |
| 21:47.01 | fungus | I used to monitor bugtraq using smart folders in evolution/Mail.app |
| 21:47.43 | fungus | But I always heard stuff via other channels just as quick. |
| 22:03.28 | macnewbold | mindjuju: yeah, it's just freebsd vulnerabilities... but why would you want to run anything else? ;) |
| 22:05.47 | mindjuju | why indeed! |
| 22:31.11 | *** join/#uphpu wps (~wade@65.73.113.199) |
| 22:31.14 | *** mode/#uphpu [+o wps] by ChanServ |
| 22:38.18 | macnewbold | and of course, being just freebsd vulnerabilities, it's got very low traffic |
| 22:38.57 | mindjuju | hmmm... that's more than I thought it'd be. for sure i though you'd probably never gotten email from that |
| 22:40.59 | macnewbold | well, I've yet to have one be something that affects me... :) |
| 22:51.26 | jm_ul|w | dataw0lf: you around? is ubuntu distributed all bundled up in an iso? |
| 22:57.52 | macnewbold | jm_ul|w: dataw0lf is gone (that's his home box which is always here) but yes, I think it is |
| 22:57.55 | macnewbold | ~ubuntu |
| 22:57.55 | jbot | i heard ubuntu is uma distribuicao baseada no debian, livre, que se comprometeu a lancar muitos releases (de 6 em 6 meses). A palavra ubuntu significa 'uma pessoa eh uma pessoa atraves das outras'. Pergunte-me sobre debian-ubuntu. <http://www.ubuntulinux.org> |
| 22:58.01 | macnewbold | ~ubunto iso |
| 22:58.30 | macnewbold | ~debian-ubuntu |
| 22:59.08 | macnewbold | jbot, ubuntu is also See also ubuntu-en |
| 22:59.08 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 23:02.40 | jm_ul|w | I'm looking at all the mirrors and I'm not seeing any iso files. I see a bunch of other files which I wouldn't know how to use. |
| 23:02.41 | macnewbold | jbot, ubuntu-en is a linux distro based on debian, free, that plans to release often (i.e. 6 in 6 months). See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ |
| 23:02.41 | jbot | macnewbold: okay |
| 23:02.47 | macnewbold | hm |
| 23:02.48 | macnewbold | maybe not |
| 23:03.07 | macnewbold | ~google ubuntu iso |
| 23:03.18 | macnewbold | ~google ubuntu iso download |
| 23:03.38 | macnewbold | hm, jbot's googler is broken apparetly. But google those, they get results. |
| 23:05.23 | jm_ul|w | i went to another spot on the web site and found an iso. wierd that it's not on any of the US mirror sites. Unless I missed clicking on the right folder |
| 23:55.12 | *** join/#uphpu bigdog_ut (~bigdog_ut@shylonhunter.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 23:55.12 | *** mode/#uphpu [+o bigdog_ut] by ChanServ |
