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14:23.00amir_Hi
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15:03.41macnewboldmorning all
15:04.41mindjujumornin
15:06.04macnewbold~frenchtaunt Monday morning
15:06.05jbotACTION summons the french taunter!   Monday morning, I burst my pimples at you...
15:07.54dataw0lf|wg'morning gents
15:07.58bigdog_utwhatz up
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15:11.39mindjujujust reading about the new .xxx domain
15:11.41mindjujuhttp://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050613/ap_on_hi_te/internet_pornography
15:11.58dataw0lf|wah, jea.
15:12.01mindjujuwas there ever a question that people would keep their .com address and buy an xxx ?
15:12.24mindjujusome people seemed to think that everybody would move to xxx and leave com for other things
15:12.39wpsthose people are retarded
15:12.39dataw0lf|wI will, it's too cool for school.
15:13.31mindjujuand the article mentions possible legislation, man that would be a nightmare
15:14.21dataw0lf|wMr. and Mrs. Smith is an awesome movie, btw.
15:16.16dataw0lf|wany movie where Brad Pitt throws Angelina Jolie to the ground and just starts kicking her repeatedly is automagickally an great movie.
15:17.37dataw0lf|ws/an/a
15:18.24mindjujuok, maybe the tatics at gitmo are going to far
15:18.28mindjujuCHRISTINA AGUILERA MUSIC USED AS TORTURE IN GITMO
15:18.33mindjujuhttp://drudgereport.com/flash2ti.htm
15:18.39mindjujufound the article on www.fark.com
15:18.56mindjujuit's 4th paragraph down
15:19.11dataw0lf|wI hate to say it at the risk of sound homosexual, but Christina Aguilera has a great voice for a white girl.
15:19.18dataw0lf|ws/sound/sounding
15:19.36bigdog_utshe can hit a high c...not to many can
15:19.55dataw0lf|wshe's not like Britney Spears or anything, she actually does have talent.
15:19.56bigdog_utdataw0lf|w, you seen the previews to "land of the dead" looks way good
15:20.53dataw0lf|wbigdog_ut: nope, haven't seen the previews, but I'm still excited about seeing it.
15:21.01dataw0lf|wyou should go see mr and mrs smith, it really is pretty good.
15:21.18bigdog_uti might wait for dvd
15:21.35bigdog_uti did watch presinct 13 last night
15:21.45bigdog_utactually saturday...was pretty good
15:21.58dataw0lf|whaven't seen that one yet.
15:23.33bigdog_utit is okay
15:24.46macnewboldwe recently saw Hitch and Fever Pitch - both very funny good shows
15:25.09dataw0lf|wpfft.
15:25.09mindjujuconcur, hitch is good movie, haven't seen fever pitch
15:25.12bigdog_utwe watched "are we there yet?" with ice cube that was really funny...kids loved it
15:25.14dataw0lf|wI can't stand Will Smith.
15:25.41macnewboldfever pitch is an adam sandler/drew barrymore flick that stars Jimmy Fallon instead of sandler
15:27.31dataw0lf|wAt the risk of sounding homosexual again, I think Brad Pitt is an excellent actor.
15:27.44dataw0lf|wto save my soul, I'll say that Drew Barrymore is the cutest girl evar.
15:28.30mindjujui'm afraid there isn't enough counterweight there.  your still tipping to the other side with your brad pitt comment
15:28.53mindjujuthough the movie The Mexican was pretty good. but it did have Julia Roberts
15:30.00dataw0lf|wHe made Fight Club, I didn't think Palahniuk's awesomeness would translate well to the screen, but Pitt was able to pull it off.
15:30.18dataw0lf|wAnd A River Runs Through It is probably in my top ten of greatest movies ever.
15:31.29mindjujunever really pegged you the sentimental type
15:31.56macnewbolddataw0lf is a chick in a somewhat mannish body
15:32.06macnewboldhehe j/k
15:32.14mindjujuscandalous allegations!
15:32.34dataw0lf|witsh trueth
15:33.29dataw0lf|wmindjuju: I thought the cinematography was excellent, plus it reminds me of my (deceased) grandfather.
15:33.38dataw0lf|wand the score is excellent as well.
15:36.32mindjujuin truth, i haven't seen the movie, but wanted to, directed by redford as I recall
15:36.45dataw0lf|wyeah.
15:37.00dataw0lf|w<3 Redford.
15:37.38mindjujuhave you seen the milagro beanfield war directored by redford also ?
15:38.00dataw0lf|wyeah.
15:38.08dataw0lf|wI've seen all of Redford's movies, my Dad is a nut.
15:38.30mindjujuhey, what ever happened with that police stuff?
15:38.38mindjujudid you go see the 30 minute lawyer?
15:39.05mindjujuif you don't mind me asking personal questions
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15:39.15dataw0lf|whaven't gotten a court date yet, my Dad set me up with his lawyer this coming friday.
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15:39.22mindjujunice
15:40.26dataw0lf|wjea
15:41.40mindjujuk, cool, won't worry 'bout ya then.  the thing that bugs me on the issue is that I have seen cops overstep their boundries, and I do appreciate them, but we as citizens must do our civil duty to help enforce law enforcement
15:41.49mindjujuotherwise we lose rights that have been hard earned
15:42.27xilch|wscroheart!
15:43.18dataw0lf|wmindjuju: I feel the same.
16:14.20macnewboldit's kinda too bad you can't recover your court costs when you defend yourself against things like this
16:17.33bigdog_utu can if you sue
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16:17.48dataw0lf|wyeah, you can take civil action.
16:18.05bigdog_utthat is a hard road but maybe worth it
16:18.59dataw0lf|wprobably not, my dad keeps a fund for fighting the man handy, and is happy to spend it.
16:19.24bigdog_utnice father
16:31.57bigdog_ut~wake drip
16:31.58jbotdrip: GOOD MORNING!!!
16:36.17bigdog_utslacker
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16:47.29Davidhas anyone here tried Fedora Core 4 yet?
16:48.26dataw0lf|wNope.
16:48.28jsmithDavid: I've been running Core 4 Test 3
16:48.33jsmithDavid: So far, it's OK.
16:49.00jsmithNot this again!
16:49.08Davidwhy all the shivering and shuddering?
16:49.15dataw0lf|wbecause it's FC.
16:49.26bigdog_utor kfc as i call it
16:50.16dataw0lf|wI call it 'The RH engineers sneaky way of getting you to be their test subject for RHEL ideas'
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16:50.29bigdog_utlol
16:51.41jsmithdataw0lf|w: I don't think there's anything "sneaky" about it -- they're very open about that fact
16:51.56jsmithdataw0lf|w: That being said, the whole FC process is *finally* becoming more open
16:52.12dataw0lf|wjsmith: yeah, but most people don't seem to realize that.
16:52.32jsmithdataw0lf|w: I can't help what most people do or don't realize
16:52.51jsmithAll I can say is that I don't mind being their guinea pig
16:52.53dataw0lf|wI'm not saying you can.
16:53.48bigdog_uti just hat working with it...i hate the interface and the file system layout
16:54.06bigdog_uti was a rh fan until version 8.0
16:54.14bigdog_utthen it just went down hill for me
16:54.24bigdog_utversion 7.3 was really good...
16:54.35bigdog_utso rhel version 1,2 are really good too
16:54.35jsmithbigdog_ut: I still use 7.3 a lot.
16:54.55bigdog_utit is a nice one...but when they moved to 8.0...it sucked so hard.
16:55.10bigdog_uti have been using rh since 5.3
16:55.29DavidI'm familiar with Redhat/Fedora and Debian-based distros, so that what I tend to use
16:55.34bigdog_utafter 7.3 they lost me
16:55.57jsmithbigdog_ut: They just about lost me, but FC got me back on board, at least for some machines.
16:55.57bigdog_utthen i moved to mandrake for a few months...cause i still could run icewm under mandrake
16:56.43bigdog_utthen i moved to some freebsd for about a month...did not like it...then i moved to gentoo...and here i "wait" as dataw0lf|w likes to remind me every so often
16:56.55bigdog_uti tried ubuntu and did not like it at all
16:57.12bigdog_uti did use debian on some servers that was nice at my last job
16:57.34mindjujuwhat the $!@#
16:57.35mindjujuhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050613/wl_afp/chinainternetcompanymicrosoft
16:57.38bigdog_utwe had a debian developer working there which was nice
16:59.12dataw0lf|wI used Slackware for about a year, then switched to Debian.
16:59.31dataw0lf|wI try out various distros every so often, but they all are terrible compared to me Debian.
16:59.41dataw0lf|wRH 7.x wasn't so bad.
17:00.26bigdog_utmindjuju, its all about the money
17:00.43bigdog_utif moneys involved anything goes
17:00.47bigdog_utno matter what
17:06.30mindjujulived in china for a year as part of a collegic study abroad program
17:06.57mindjujuthose guys need a swift kick in the groin
17:07.42dataw0lf|wI like the Chinese.
17:07.55mindjujui love that monty python song
17:14.11DavidI've tried Gentoo a couple of times, but I just don't have 3 weeks to install a server. Vida Linux's use of anaconda is nice.
17:16.38bigdog_utDavid, when you do a stage 1 install then 3 weeks is it...but if you do a stage 3 install
17:18.31fungusstage 3 with GRP packages can be installed in one day.  
17:18.56bigdog_utfinding grp on the internet is sometimes hard
17:19.07bigdog_utunless you have another gentoo box handy
17:19.26fungusI just use the ones that come on the second CD
17:26.43DavidYou have to admit that it's a pain in the butt
17:27.19bigdog_utto set up a computer in a couple days or weeks is not too bad
17:31.58Davidif you have that much time
17:36.03DavidI set up an internal server in about 2 hours with FC2 last year and haven't had a single problem. In fact it
17:36.12dataw0lf|wthe thing about Gentoo is that it'll never be production quality.  I prefer to use something I can use for clients.
17:36.21Davidin fact it's been up since January
17:36.58macnewboldtry FreeBSD next time
17:37.08macnewboldway better than gentoo, and installs quick
17:37.20fungus*ditto*
17:37.21dataw0lf|wI agree.
17:37.45dataw0lf|wIf for some reason you don't/can't use Debian, go with BSD.
17:37.52Davidwe have a test box that we set up with gentoo, it is a constant source of headaches. Obviously we're not Gentoo pros, but getting apache, mysql and friends working was a pain the you know what.
17:38.56DavidI might try FreeBSD on it this week. I've got plans to try FC4 and Debian for it this week anyway.
17:40.54Davidgotta go to a boring meeting. Later
17:41.56macnewboldtake a FreeBSD iso with you, and while you sit in the boring meeting, you can install FreeBSD on it
17:44.05macnewboldyou'll finish the install before the meeting ends, then you can play games on it
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22:21.05dataw0lf|w<3
22:21.24bigdog_utthanks dataw0lf|w
22:21.37xilch|wscroheart!
22:21.39dataw0lf|w:)
22:22.00bigdog_utthansk xilch|w
23:06.01bigdog_utman i havent seen wps in a while
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23:08.24bigdog_uthave we ever talked about setting up a forum for uphpu?
23:13.11macnewboldyep... there's a poll on the web site right now
23:13.16macnewboldit's about 50/50 for/against
23:13.29macnewboldwhy, do you want one?
23:14.14bigdog_uti think we should
23:15.12bigdog_uti like searching the forums better than email
23:15.19bigdog_utand google does a good job of it too
23:15.49macnewboldyeah, but would people visit the forums? people hardly even seem to use the web site
23:15.54fungusI dislike forums as they are often difficult to aggregate.
23:16.19bigdog_utfungus, true
23:16.20macnewboldif we had a good forum<==>mail list gateway, we'd be fine
23:16.21macnewboldI think
23:16.29bigdog_utmacnewbold, that is the problem...we need more interaction on the website
23:16.58fungusor searchable maillist archives.
23:17.03bigdog_uti think we need to get more going on the website
23:17.15bigdog_utdo we have the mailing list archive?
23:17.26dripthere is a mailing list archive.
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23:18.48bigdog_uti like the email...however, i agree with dataw0lf|w on the n00b thing that the website might be better
23:19.18bigdog_uti think we always have great info but it seems to not be on the website...unless someone posts it
23:19.28bigdog_utlike macnewbold did
23:22.54macnewboldso does geeklog have a forum module?
23:23.04bigdog_uti think it might
23:23.09macnewboldor could we take something like phpbb and integrate it?
23:23.17macnewboldit probably should, I would think
23:23.27macnewboldanyway, someone could check, and we could put it on there
23:23.29bigdog_utnot sure though...where is wps?
23:23.35macnewboldstudying probably
23:23.42bigdog_utit does
23:24.16bigdog_utno wait
23:24.20bigdog_utit might use phpbb
23:24.40bigdog_utit uses phpbb
23:24.52bigdog_utit allows it as a plugin
23:31.28bigdog_utmacnewbold, i take it you dont like the forum idea?
23:31.43macnewboldI'm not a huge fan of it
23:31.48macnewboldseems redundant to me
23:33.54bigdog_utdo we have mailing list archives up on the site?
23:35.04dripyes so they would be searchable by google as well
23:35.06dripwhich is good.
23:35.13dripgoing home
23:35.13dripttyl

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