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| 01:21.51 | bigdog_ut | whatz up all? |
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| 04:32.35 | makin | hi, anyone aliv |
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| 15:42.29 | bigdog_ut | how about this weather |
| 15:42.35 | usynic | it's lame. |
| 15:43.01 | bigdog_ut | my kids like it |
| 15:43.13 | usynic | your kids don't have to drive in it :) |
| 15:43.51 | bigdog_ut | no doubt...and i just get to drive only 10 minutes to work |
| 15:44.24 | usynic | my drive is pretty short too... but if it's still raining at night, I'm in trouble. |
| 15:44.34 | usynic | I can barely drive at night when it's not raining. |
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| 15:53.40 | dataw0lf|w | Yay for pine tree branches stripping cable pairs and allowing water to get in. Woohoo! |
| 15:54.04 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 15:54.10 | wps | what? |
| 15:54.23 | bigdog_ut | nice for the power going out and causing my servers to page me |
| 15:54.57 | dataw0lf|w | wps: our T1 went down. |
| 15:55.03 | wps | ah |
| 15:55.04 | wps | bummer |
| 15:55.21 | dataw0lf|w | hey, at least I can pass the buck in this instance. |
| 15:55.37 | usynic | pfft, I saw you out there shakin that tree. |
| 15:56.03 | dataw0lf|w | yeah, so I could come in at 5 in the morning. |
| 15:56.28 | dataw0lf|w | and then sit here helpless, dozing off while some Qwest guy rattles on about Longhorn. |
| 15:56.45 | usynic | dataw0lf|w: what was that 311 song you played in my car called? |
| 15:57.07 | dataw0lf|w | hm. The one where P-Nut goes nuts? |
| 15:57.16 | usynic | yeah |
| 15:57.26 | dataw0lf|w | Sick Tight. It's off the album From Chaos. |
| 15:58.10 | usynic | k |
| 15:58.48 | dataw0lf|w | that Jack Johnson song was Flake. |
| 15:58.55 | dataw0lf|w | off of... Brushfire Fairytales? I'm not sure. |
| 15:59.00 | dataw0lf|w | Posters is another good one by him. |
| 16:01.59 | usynic | ah, posters is the one you played in the car |
| 16:03.22 | dataw0lf|w | Posters is the best JJ song, imho. |
| 16:03.34 | dataw0lf|w | great lyrics, and of course his patented acoustic magic. |
| 16:09.09 | dataw0lf|w | we're going to have to do something this weekend, it's going to be nice. |
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| 16:43.21 | wps_ | is doing a search and replace for a string within files recursively though directories simple via the command line? |
| 16:43.48 | mindjuju | what OS? |
| 16:44.52 | mindjuju | This is the grep that i use for windows |
| 16:44.53 | mindjuju | http://oakroadsystems.com/sharware/grep.htm |
| 16:45.03 | mindjuju | it is way beefy and does offer that type of functionality |
| 16:45.05 | macnewbold | for search and replace, you can do it with perl |
| 16:45.25 | wps_ | any *nix |
| 16:45.27 | macnewbold | a perl one liner like shown in "perldoc perlrun" or "man perlrun" will do it |
| 16:45.31 | macnewbold | look for -i |
| 16:46.26 | wps_ | so is it possible with just a commandline commend? or is a language such as perl required? |
| 16:46.38 | mindjuju | sorry, that grep only works with windows |
| 16:46.40 | mindjuju | i checked |
| 16:47.19 | macnewbold | you can do it on the command line _using_ perl, without writing a script |
| 16:47.30 | macnewbold | you just execute the perl executable and pass it some commandline options |
| 16:47.55 | wps_ | k |
| 16:47.59 | wps_ | thanks |
| 16:48.23 | dataw0lf|w | or just use rpl, amongst other tools. |
| 16:49.17 | macnewbold | perl -pi'.orig' -e 's/bar/baz/' fileA |
| 16:49.18 | dataw0lf|w | rpl -R 'old' 'new' * |
| 16:49.57 | wps_ | rpl? |
| 16:50.03 | wps_ | No manual entry for rpl |
| 16:50.53 | macnewbold | would replace bar with baz in fileA and leave the original file as fileA.orig |
| 16:52.12 | mindjuju | sounds like you have several options posted here as a side note, Grep is actually a port to windows from unix command and the quick research i've done leads me to beleive grep may be built into linux and also runs from the command line |
| 16:52.27 | macnewbold | grep is built into linux/*nix |
| 16:52.32 | macnewbold | but it doesn't replace, it just searches |
| 16:52.58 | macnewbold | you could use it to _find_ the files that needed fixing, but not to actually fix them |
| 16:53.34 | macnewbold | if you want wps, I've got a 50-line script I could send you that does it... |
| 16:53.45 | macnewbold | it handles all the sanitizing and escaping for you |
| 16:53.51 | macnewbold | so tha tyou don't have to think abou tthe regex much |
| 16:55.15 | mindjuju | that sux! what's the use of finding it if you can't change it? that windows port has search and replace. PERL will probably do it fastest too |
| 16:58.51 | wps_ | dataw0lf|w: what is RPL? |
| 17:00.25 | macnewbold | rpl is probably some custom hack for replacing things... not a standard *nix thing |
| 17:01.44 | wps_ | :) |
| 17:01.45 | wps_ | very true |
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| 17:12.54 | bigdog_ut | rpl is not a standard text util from gnu or coreutils, but it is a unix utility that you can install |
| 17:18.16 | dataw0lf|w | always one of my first package install. |
| 17:18.16 | dataw0lf|w | +s |
| 17:21.13 | bigdog_ut | another util that i always install rfcutil |
| 17:23.14 | dataw0lf|w | there are alot of 'standard' unix utilities that aren't in the default install. |
| 17:23.33 | bigdog_ut | very much so |
| 17:23.57 | bigdog_ut | and there are many utils in the coreutils that people dont know about |
| 17:24.12 | dataw0lf|w | that's true too. |
| 17:24.31 | dataw0lf|w | or commands that 90% of people don't know how to properly use. |
| 17:24.36 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 17:24.38 | dataw0lf|w | find comes readily to mind. |
| 17:24.44 | bigdog_ut | or only know 10% of the options |
| 17:24.53 | bigdog_ut | yeah and xargs |
| 17:24.58 | dataw0lf|w | ah jea. |
| 17:25.11 | bigdog_ut | or how about grep and sed and awk |
| 17:25.14 | bigdog_ut | and... |
| 17:25.17 | bigdog_ut | we could go on |
| 17:25.41 | dataw0lf|w | hehe. |
| 17:25.51 | dataw0lf|w | grep / sed / awk are the most underused commands ever. |
| 17:26.12 | dataw0lf|w | I'm still trying to get my sed / awk skills to super guru master level. |
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| 17:51.20 | dataw0lf|w | speaking of. |
| 17:51.23 | dataw0lf|w | what's up tierra? |
| 17:53.54 | tierra | speaking of? |
| 17:54.20 | tierra | did I tell you Adrenaline is working here now? |
| 17:55.07 | optikal- | hehe |
| 17:57.10 | dataw0lf|w | hahaha |
| 17:57.12 | dataw0lf|w | shut up. |
| 17:57.27 | dataw0lf|w | at least now he can argue about it more effectively. |
| 17:57.34 | dataw0lf|w | Of course, I bet he's doing... what, HTML or some shit? |
| 17:59.41 | tierra | he'll be taking tech support and authorization calls |
| 17:59.47 | dataw0lf|w | hahahaha |
| 17:59.51 | tierra | hehe |
| 17:59.56 | dataw0lf|w | That's awesome. |
| 18:00.03 | dataw0lf|w | thanks for making my day. |
| 18:00.10 | tierra | yeah, he'll find out quick how 'great' our job his |
| 18:02.03 | tierra | *is |
| 18:02.16 | tierra | he'll actually have it off a lot worse than us actually |
| 18:03.04 | dataw0lf|w | mmm, validation on my intelligence is satisfying. |
| 18:03.07 | tierra | there's still the matter that I would like to know about how much he's getting paid, considering my pay right now... if it's any more than $9-$10/hr, I'll be a little pissed |
| 18:03.17 | dataw0lf|w | not re: Adrenline, that's satisfying too though. |
| 18:04.36 | tierra | hehe, you should of been here yesterday... Jay (our boss) turned to Adrenaline, and out of no-where says "You're not going to be able to go to BlackHat" ... Adrenaline just went blank faced |
| 18:04.50 | optikal- | haha |
| 18:05.09 | tierra | deer caught in the headlights sort of thing |
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| 18:28.41 | Alphahawk | question. What command do I use to access a ms access DB? odbc_connect? |
| 18:38.42 | bigdog_ut | yes and you need to have your odbc connection set up on the system |
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| 18:40.30 | macnewbold | Alphahawk: you can also use the mssql functions... that's what I've been using on a recent project that required it, and it works fine |
| 18:40.49 | macnewbold | it requires the FreeTDS library, but it's not hard to set up |
| 18:42.40 | Alphahawk | sweet |
| 18:45.08 | Alphahawk | FreeTDS access a microsoft access database correct? |
| 18:55.31 | Alphahawk | okay connecting to a access DB sucks |
| 18:55.41 | bigdog_ut | access sucks |
| 18:55.44 | bigdog_ut | period |
| 18:56.18 | Alphahawk | well ya that too. But just looking at the time it takes to get it setup to connect and everything I can have mysql up and running with no problems |
| 18:56.38 | bigdog_ut | yep or pgsql |
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| 19:14.52 | drip | now that's my kind of meeting. |
| 19:15.01 | drip | meet to postpone the meeting until later. |
| 19:15.27 | bigdog_ut | yes |
| 19:15.32 | bigdog_ut | and waste my time |
| 19:15.38 | drip | yep |
| 19:20.26 | dataw0lf|w | aren't those the best? |
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| 19:46.14 | macnewbold | looks like I missed Alphahawk... for the record anyway, FreeTDS allows you to access an MS SQL Server, not MS Access. MS Access _has_ no server, AFAIK. |
| 19:46.41 | bigdog_ut | no ms access is a file |
| 19:46.52 | macnewbold | right |
| 19:47.17 | bigdog_ut | u should be fine with the odbc connection |
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| 21:28.02 | bigdog_ut | ~welcome edgecast |
| 21:28.08 | jbot | Howdy edgecast | It is good to see you edgecast | edgecast, Sup yo? |
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| 21:57.15 | edgecast | yo bigdog_ut ... how goes it today? |
| 21:57.42 | bigdog_ut | ~say not bad edgecast |
| 21:57.44 | jbot | not bad edgecast |
| 21:57.50 | bigdog_ut | lol...good |
| 21:58.16 | edgecast | who's the CVS guru 'round here? |
| 21:58.26 | bigdog_ut | wps |
| 21:58.33 | bigdog_ut | wps_, |
| 21:58.39 | wps_ | yes |
| 21:58.39 | dataw0lf|w | mean. |
| 21:58.43 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 21:58.49 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf|w, i know |
| 21:58.50 | wps_ | I'm not a CVS guru |
| 21:58.59 | edgecast | has he been fighting it ... |
| 21:59.06 | bigdog_ut | im not a guru...but i know enough |
| 21:59.10 | dataw0lf|w | same here. |
| 21:59.24 | dataw0lf|w | https://www.cvshome.org/docs/blandy.html |
| 21:59.49 | macnewbold | I used CVS for a long time, edgecast - I'm not a guru, but I've checked a lot of stuff in and out, and dealt a little with branches |
| 22:00.14 | dataw0lf|w | I'm good enough at CVS to have switched to SVN ;) |
| 22:00.24 | edgecast | can't I set up the HEAD of the repository to be the webroot? |
| 22:00.41 | bigdog_ut | im even good enough to know to wait until svn is a little more stable |
| 22:00.51 | bigdog_ut | u sure can |
| 22:01.04 | edgecast | I'll do my homework, but if anyone knows I'd take the hand up |
| 22:01.20 | bigdog_ut | just set apache to use it as the webroot |
| 22:01.30 | edgecast | looks like the repository has added ',v' to all the file names |
| 22:01.36 | bigdog_ut | but if you are doing that then i would listen ot dataw0lf|w and use svn |
| 22:02.13 | dataw0lf|w | edgecast: what bigdog_ut means is that there is mucho supporto for SVN with Apache. |
| 22:02.21 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 22:02.27 | dataw0lf|w | which is one of the reasons why the masses love it. |
| 22:02.40 | edgecast | cool |
| 22:02.53 | bigdog_ut | and hell you can rename files or dirs with ease |
| 22:03.01 | bigdog_ut | ~wake wps_ |
| 22:03.04 | jbot | wps_: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 22:03.04 | dataw0lf|w | don't forget atomic commits :) |
| 22:03.20 | bigdog_ut | oh, least we not forget |
| 22:03.24 | wps_ | brb… going to try and get my nick back |
| 22:03.41 | bigdog_ut | where did your nick go to? |
| 22:03.44 | dataw0lf|w | repository wide counter. |
| 22:03.50 | dataw0lf|w | it's in my pocket! |
| 22:03.52 | macnewbold | edgecast: you won't want your webroot to be the repository |
| 22:04.01 | macnewbold | you'd want the webroot to be a checkout |
| 22:04.03 | edgecast | I remember kicking the SVN Vs. CVS topic around the mailing list awhile back |
| 22:04.34 | dataw0lf|w | I tend to stay close to my trolling roots and participate in those arguments live. |
| 22:04.38 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, is right...i use a cron job to export mine out for apache |
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| 22:05.14 | edgecast | thanks for the tip |
| 22:05.15 | dataw0lf|w | Gentoo sucks! |
| 22:05.18 | dataw0lf|w | edgecast: see? |
| 22:05.28 | bigdog_ut | ~lart dataw0lf|w |
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| 22:07.05 | macnewbold | ewww, gross |
| 22:07.09 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:07.13 | macnewbold | bye wps :) |
| 22:07.16 | dataw0lf|w | hehe |
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| 22:07.33 | *** kick/#uphpu [bigdog_ut!~wade@207.108.169.214] by wps (wps) |
| 22:07.35 | macnewbold | welcome back, wps |
| 22:07.36 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:07.39 | macnewbold | bye bigdog |
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| 22:07.43 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 22:07.48 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:08.03 | dataw0lf|w | bigdog_ut is like a mind reader. |
| 22:08.16 | macnewbold | ~bigdog_ut is also a mind reader |
| 22:08.17 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 22:08.31 | dataw0lf|w | you guys can kick me if it makes you feel better. |
| 22:08.32 | bigdog_ut | ~bigdog_ut |
| 22:08.33 | jbot | i guess bigdog_ut is Mullet Man, a.k.a. El Perro Loco, or "the gimp", or known as the schwagmeister, or a big meany, or laden, or full of Schmack at times, or the nagios king, or a resident loser, or a mind reader |
| 22:08.47 | bigdog_ut | no we love you dataw0lf|w |
| 22:11.46 | tierra | had to jump back into Slackware 10.1 after having not used it since 8... it was actually really nice... I was expecting to run into all sorts of problems, and I didn't run into any... got in, setup apache, php, mysql, phpmyadmin, and mantis in a matter of about 10-15 minutes, it was nice |
| 22:12.25 | dataw0lf|w | well, you're evolving. |
| 22:12.26 | dataw0lf|w | Slowly. |
| 22:12.28 | dataw0lf|w | But surely. |
| 22:12.56 | dataw0lf|w | Faster than sharks. |
| 22:13.02 | dataw0lf|w | I hear they're still on Gentoo. |
| 22:13.04 | dataw0lf|w | that's why they're so fast. |
| 22:13.07 | dataw0lf|w | and dumb. |
| 22:13.18 | dataw0lf|w | :) |
| 22:13.21 | bigdog_ut | and have one hella bite |
| 22:15.08 | bigdog_ut | hey guess what? |
| 22:15.34 | dataw0lf|w | hydrochloric acid. |
| 22:15.44 | bigdog_ut | "im on the radio" |
| 22:15.53 | bigdog_ut | dan and lisa love me |
| 22:16.22 | dataw0lf|w | ? |
| 22:17.16 | dataw0lf|w | I was so sure hydrochloric acid was the answer, too. |
| 22:17.19 | dataw0lf|w | Damn me. |
| 22:17.32 | bigdog_ut | soad is the anser |
| 22:18.30 | bigdog_ut | man i love gq |
| 22:18.35 | bigdog_ut | the app |
| 22:18.37 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 22:18.40 | dataw0lf|w | Ah. |
| 22:29.30 | optikal | for a minute, i about went to look at the tracklisting of soad albums for 'g* q*' |
| 22:46.27 | bigdog_ut | ~slap optikal |
| 22:46.28 | jbot | ACTION slaps optikal, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:46.38 | bigdog_ut | ~piehole |
| 22:47.22 | optikal | =P |
| 22:48.04 | bigdog_ut | ~scramble optikal is a piehole |
| 22:48.25 | bigdog_ut | ~piglatin optikal is a piehole |
| 22:48.37 | optikal | hah |
| 22:49.02 | bigdog_ut | ~piglatin ~smack bigdog_ut |