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| 03:10.49 | mindjuju | wade |
| 03:11.14 | mindjuju | what is the css that is bending the bar around the table on this URL? |
| 03:11.15 | mindjuju | http://us.i1.yimg.com/news.yahoo.com/v10/us/news/css/ynews.css |
| 03:11.39 | mindjuju | so like in the table Top Stories, the line around the table bends as opposed to fold |
| 03:11.42 | mindjuju | how do you do that? |
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| 03:34.24 | mindjuju | yo big dog |
| 03:34.39 | mindjuju | what is the css that is bending the bar around the table on this URL? |
| 03:35.02 | mindjuju | http://us.i1.yimg.com/news.yahoo.com/v10/us/news/css/ynews.css |
| 03:35.35 | bigdog_ut | what is the url and not the css file |
| 03:36.13 | mindjuju | whoops |
| 03:36.14 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/ |
| 03:37.08 | mindjuju | so see just below where it says top stories |
| 03:37.12 | mindjuju | that bend |
| 03:39.04 | bigdog_ut | yeah...u want the css for that |
| 03:39.16 | mindjuju | well, the command |
| 03:39.31 | bigdog_ut | let me check |
| 03:39.35 | mindjuju | i've been researching it, and found that some people are using pics? |
| 03:39.54 | bigdog_ut | yeah most do |
| 03:41.40 | mindjuju | if you don't know off hand, that's ok |
| 03:41.49 | mindjuju | i'll research it, just wonderin' if you knew |
| 03:42.01 | bigdog_ut | of the top of my head no |
| 03:43.15 | eco|w | Bending the bar? |
| 03:43.24 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 03:43.29 | mindjuju | is it with little gifs? |
| 03:43.33 | bigdog_ut | u would have to grab all the css files and look for the li that has the class associated with it |
| 03:43.35 | mindjuju | was hoping for a command |
| 03:43.56 | eco|w | I don't understand what you mean |
| 03:44.11 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.18 | mindjuju | a css command that would autobend |
| 03:44.34 | mindjuju | so that one puts a nice ridge border |
| 03:44.43 | mindjuju | hoping for a css command that would curve the border |
| 03:44.54 | eco|w | Oh, to curve the corners? |
| 03:44.59 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 03:45.06 | eco|w | -moz-border-radius in Mozilla |
| 03:45.21 | eco|w | That won't work in IE though |
| 03:45.32 | bigdog_ut | they are probably doing a border that and making it bigger than the rest at the top |
| 03:50.04 | eco|w | It's three nested divs with images for the corners |
| 03:50.24 | eco|w | One of the corners: http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/nws/gl/cr_m_lblue_nw.gif |
| 03:50.36 | mindjuju | yuck |
| 03:50.57 | eco|w | The div is of class newscat if you want to look it up |
| 03:50.58 | mindjuju | thx for finding out for sure |
| 03:51.17 | mindjuju | i'm going to pull that css back up to see |
| 03:51.28 | mindjuju | cause i searched for that for a good 15 minutes and didn't see it |
| 03:51.37 | eco|w | But really, -moz-border-radius rocks if you don't care about IE users. |
| 03:51.56 | eco|w | The Mozilla DOM Inspector is your best friend when dissecting a webpage :) |
| 03:52.04 | bigdog_ut | yes it is |
| 03:52.15 | bigdog_ut | and venkman is a killer js debugger |
| 03:52.35 | eco|w | If I could ever bring myself to use JS, then I'm sure I'd love Venkman. |
| 03:53.13 | bigdog_ut | it is when you need to do some stuff on the client |
| 03:53.57 | eco|w | This new XmlHttpRequest stuff has been fascinating me though so I might break into it again. |
| 03:54.19 | mindjuju | yeah, i saw a chat program that was using it |
| 03:54.22 | mindjuju | not to shabby |
| 03:54.32 | mindjuju | php and mysql chat using xmlhttprequest |
| 03:54.57 | bigdog_ut | ive been thinking of php + jabber for chat |
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| 13:27.12 | dataw0lf|w | morning. |
| 13:27.59 | wps | good morning |
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| 14:15.14 | macnewbold | morning everyone |
| 14:19.40 | dataw0lf|w | g'morning. |
| 14:24.46 | macnewbold | how's it going, dataw0lf? |
| 14:26.49 | dataw0lf|w | eh, handful of person problems, but I'm dealing. |
| 14:40.59 | macnewbold | I hope things get better |
| 14:41.08 | macnewbold | it's not related to your recent change in address, is it? |
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| 14:42.42 | dataw0lf|w | me and my girlfriend broke up, it's just various symptoms of that flowing into every part of my life. |
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| 14:58.15 | dataw0lf|w | "Note: Should your server data be larger in size than can be physically stored on a tape, you will need to create separate backup profiles, one for each portion of your backup set." |
| 14:58.20 | dataw0lf|w | Wow, thanks guys. |
| 14:58.30 | dataw0lf|w | I'm putting that in my notes. |
| 15:00.48 | wps | what's that from? |
| 15:02.57 | dataw0lf|w | NetVault manual. |
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| 15:37.34 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf|w we should do a presentation seeing mac doesnt want too |
| 15:37.37 | bigdog_ut | :) |
| 15:37.51 | dataw0lf|w | Word. |
| 15:37.59 | bigdog_ut | perhaps on postgresql |
| 15:42.22 | dataw0lf|w | I thought system administration? |
| 15:42.46 | bigdog_ut | how did u want to narrow that down..that is a big topic? |
| 15:43.52 | dataw0lf|w | I've been contemplating it. |
| 15:44.04 | dataw0lf|w | Perhaps just tips/tricks regarding basic system administration and security. |
| 15:44.34 | bigdog_ut | that might be good...did you want to relate it to web development in anyway? |
| 15:44.35 | wps | firewall, keeping it up-to-date, SSL email |
| 15:44.52 | bigdog_ut | that would be complicated and not enough time |
| 15:45.03 | wps | well, you can't have a website without a server :) |
| 15:45.14 | dataw0lf|w | I can't cover iptables in one session. |
| 15:45.26 | dataw0lf|w | but I can give a brief overview. |
| 15:45.32 | bigdog_ut | email and firewalls are big topics |
| 15:48.27 | bigdog_ut | i agree that developers should know more about servers...i am just wondering how we want to limit the flow of info ot the group |
| 15:49.36 | dataw0lf|w | I was thinking of a brief overview of POSIX systems, maybe a quick bash tip/trick session, security run down, quick comparison of various email applications. |
| 15:49.46 | dataw0lf|w | I'm going to fit in some Perl bashing, over course. |
| 15:49.51 | dataw0lf|w | but that goes without saying. |
| 15:49.57 | dataw0lf|w | s/over/of |
| 15:52.10 | bigdog_ut | i am down for the optimization thought |
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| 15:52.39 | dataw0lf|w | I think that's an entirely different subject |
| 15:52.54 | bigdog_ut | depends on how you look at it |
| 15:53.38 | dataw0lf|w | LAMP versus system administration. |
| 15:53.43 | dataw0lf|w | basically. |
| 15:54.03 | bigdog_ut | im all about LAPP |
| 15:54.07 | dataw0lf|w | I don't think that's what Wade had in mind, I think it's a great topic though. |
| 15:54.10 | macnewbold | bigdog_ut: were you talking about? something bout not wanting to do a presentatoin? |
| 15:54.19 | dataw0lf|w | bigdog_ut: hey, you know I agree. |
| 15:54.39 | bigdog_ut | Linux Apache Pgsql Python |
| 15:55.14 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, im just messing with ya |
| 15:55.21 | macnewbold | if you're gonna talk about server, or server admin stuff, |
| 15:55.33 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, server admin stuff |
| 15:55.38 | macnewbold | probably best to stick to the stuff that either matters most for LAMP/LAPP, |
| 15:55.41 | dataw0lf|w | bigdog_ut: we need to discuss that Python web framework in more detail some time. |
| 15:55.51 | macnewbold | or stuff that will matter to almost everyone |
| 15:55.52 | bigdog_ut | yes |
| 15:56.06 | bigdog_ut | yeah, most are going to do apache + php |
| 15:56.08 | macnewbold | rather than things like iptables or postfix that many LAMP servers don't mess with |
| 15:56.12 | bigdog_ut | and then have linux for servers |
| 15:56.34 | macnewbold | if you want, I could do a section on FreeBSD too, so you can cover LAMP, LAPP, and FAMP |
| 15:57.05 | macnewbold | though I like PFAM or AMPF better as an acronym for it |
| 15:57.44 | dataw0lf|w | how about FAPP? |
| 15:57.46 | bigdog_ut | im all about crap |
| 15:57.46 | macnewbold | sounds like a cool presentation... we should invite all the local LUGs too, |
| 15:58.09 | dataw0lf|w | have we even decided what the presentation is going to be on? |
| 15:58.15 | bigdog_ut | no |
| 15:58.19 | dataw0lf|w | Wade specifically wanted to do server administration / security stuff. |
| 15:58.21 | macnewbold | unless you've got someone else who can either put an F in LAPP or put another P in FAMP, we have no FAPPers |
| 15:58.35 | dataw0lf|w | I can put the F in FAPP. |
| 15:59.58 | wps | invited -> inviting |
| 16:03.51 | bigdog_ut | i woudl not mind to do an advanced presentation on pgsql |
| 16:04.04 | bigdog_ut | covering stuff wps was asking about yesterday |
| 16:04.29 | jsmith | bigdog_ut: I think that'd be cool too... |
| 16:04.39 | jsmith | bigdog_ut: Even better if it gets into PostGIS stuff :-) |
| 16:04.52 | dataw0lf|w | I'm getting a crash course in PostGIS. |
| 16:04.55 | dataw0lf|w | at work. |
| 16:04.56 | bigdog_ut | lol...jsmith have you ever done gis stuff |
| 16:05.12 | bigdog_ut | i worked at digitalglobe for a year and did tons of gis work |
| 16:05.20 | bigdog_ut | with pgsql, oracle and sybase |
| 16:05.49 | bigdog_ut | really killer stuff |
| 16:06.11 | jsmith | bigdog_ut: I haven't done GIS stuff in Postgres, but right after I graduated from high school I worked for a civil engineering company mapping all the power poles in the county using GIS |
| 16:06.14 | dataw0lf|w | yeah, we're doing some work in it, it's some great stuff. |
| 16:07.02 | bigdog_ut | yeah...i did a front end to pgsql that allowed you to search gis images of the world and search for locations on maps via coordinates |
| 16:07.30 | bigdog_ut | one of the best jobs i have had |
| 16:07.51 | bigdog_ut | i wrote a php application that created images from pgsql data |
| 16:07.54 | jsmith | I'd love to log my commute each day (via GPS) and then be able to map where the slow spots are and during which times, just to see trends ("If I leave for work 20 minutes earlier, I save 10 minutes") |
| 16:08.17 | jsmith | That'd rock... |
| 16:09.03 | dataw0lf|w | that's an interesting idea. |
| 16:09.45 | dataw0lf|w | mmm pay check. |
| 16:10.13 | bigdog_ut | we did one app that u entered in land locations and we would find cities |
| 16:10.25 | bigdog_ut | like a lake here...mountains on the left |
| 16:10.58 | jsmith | Cool... |
| 16:11.14 | bigdog_ut | and i got to do image retifications |
| 16:20.39 | dataw0lf|w | you should see some of the work they do here, bigdog_ut, it's some cool stuff. |
| 16:20.50 | bigdog_ut | like what? |
| 16:21.36 | dataw0lf|w | ortho rectification, photogrammetric mapping, lots of stuff. |
| 16:21.50 | bigdog_ut | nice...that is the fun stuff |
| 16:22.01 | bigdog_ut | i love doing ortho rectifications and image mappings |
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| 17:35.42 | fungus | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 17:35.47 | jbot | dataw0lf is currently on #uphpu #debian #utah. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 14h 40m 23s |
| 17:36.59 | dataw0lf|w | ? |
| 17:38.49 | dataw0lf|w | fungus: whatcha need? |
| 17:43.34 | fungus | heh, just curious. yesterday it said you were idling for over 4d. |
| 17:43.41 | fungus | but you broke your record. |
| 17:44.08 | mindjuju | what a curious thing to note |
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| 17:47.21 | dataw0lf|w | I got an idle on Ready Response that's 3 weeks < |
| 17:47.37 | dataw0lf|w | I am the king of not saying anything if there is noone to ridicule! |
| 17:48.48 | mindjuju | what about misspelling, do you ever ridicule that? |
| 17:49.11 | mindjuju | just teasing |
| 17:49.17 | mindjuju | ~insult bigdog_ut |
| 17:49.41 | dataw0lf|w | wow. |
| 17:49.59 | dataw0lf|w | dataw0lf@darktower:~/.xchat2 $ du -sh xchatlogs |
| 17:49.59 | dataw0lf|w | 338M xchatlogs |
| 17:50.29 | optikal- | nice =) |
| 17:51.25 | dataw0lf|w | dataw0lf@darktower:~/.xchat2 $ ls -Al xchatlogs | wc -l |
| 17:51.25 | dataw0lf|w | 321 |
| 17:52.43 | zardinuk | chatlogs, a treasure trove of valuable reference material |
| 17:53.39 | fungus | also a big steaming pile of $H!T |
| 17:54.11 | dataw0lf|w | dataw0lf@darktower:~ $ du -sh ~/.mozilla/firefox/9vkglqzj.dataw0lf/bookmarks.html |
| 17:54.11 | dataw0lf|w | 5M /home/dataw0lf/.mozilla/firefox/9vkglqzj.dataw0lf/bookmarks.html |
| 17:54.26 | dataw0lf|w | nice. |
| 17:59.14 | dataw0lf|w | ok, time to smoke a cigarette while I wait for synic and xilch. |
| 18:00.48 | tierra | damn |
| 18:00.50 | tierra | 5M |
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| 18:56.55 | bigdog_ut | i have like 12k |
| 18:59.59 | tierra | I'm guessing about 4.9MB of that 5MB is put to waste... never to be seen again |
| 19:01.05 | tierra | Google has a way of managing my bookmarks for me when it gets down to that many sites |
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| 19:34.18 | dataw0lf|w | tierra: you're wrong sir. |
| 19:34.39 | dataw0lf|w | tierra: you've never seen my bookmark structure, I take it. |
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| 23:38.03 | bigdog_ut | ~bigdog_ut |
| 23:38.04 | jbot | from memory, bigdog_ut is Mullet Man, a.k.a. El Perro Loco, or "the gimp", or known as the schwagmeister, or a big meany, or laden |
| 23:38.22 | bigdog_ut | jbot, bigdog_ut is the nagios king |
| 23:38.23 | jbot | ...but bigdog_ut is already something else... |
| 23:38.32 | bigdog_ut | jbot, forget bigdog_ut |
| 23:38.32 | jbot | bigdog_ut: i didn't have anything called 'bigdog_ut ' to forget |
