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| 03:26.44 | wps | dataw0lf: you there? |
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| 15:32.10 | beandog | Has anyone ever used windows shares with php |
| 15:32.19 | beandog | Running is_dir('\\\\share\\') returns false. :T |
| 15:36.15 | dataw0lf|w | ... windows shares? On a linux box? |
| 15:36.36 | dataw0lf|w | you're talking about accessing a samba mount on a linux box, I take it? |
| 15:38.10 | optikal | you need \\\\computer\\share |
| 16:14.33 | beandog | No, accessing a windows share on a windows box |
| 16:14.50 | beandog | I tried \\\\share\\directory\\ |
| 16:14.52 | beandog | no workie |
| 16:15.06 | dataw0lf|w | oh, I don't know. |
| 16:15.16 | dataw0lf|w | I don't run any type of server on Windows. |
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| 16:22.18 | beandog | poop |
| 16:23.35 | dataw0lf|w | your obvious first problem is that you're running a Windows server. |
| 16:24.34 | beandog | Obviously. |
| 16:24.54 | beandog | Switching to Linux isn't just an afternoon delight, though. |
| 16:25.12 | beandog | Its going to take us months. |
| 16:26.03 | dataw0lf|w | How many servers do you have to move? |
| 16:26.22 | beandog | Um |
| 16:26.26 | beandog | 6? |
| 16:26.47 | dataw0lf|w | bah, you can do it in an afternoon :) |
| 16:26.48 | beandog | I still havent even gotten samba to work yet |
| 16:28.39 | beandog | Its a pita getting to talk to AD. |
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| 17:57.49 | fungus | Careful, Dangerous Hacker. http://www.jellyslab.com/~bteo/hacker.htm |
| 18:01.39 | jsmith | fungus: That was great.... |
| 18:02.58 | jsmith | Yeah... you guys see if you can hack me! My IP is 127.0.0.1! |
| 18:03.45 | fungus | ok, I'll just put it into this cool 1337 hacker program I got. |
| 18:07.17 | fungus | itunes |
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| 18:17.01 | scott | jsmith: C: 30% deleted |
| 18:19.18 | wps | thanks, fungus |
| 18:20.09 | scott | what the |
| 18:20.11 | fungus | np. we all need a good laugh sometimes. |
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| 20:13.16 | jsmith | Quiet day in here... did everyone go mute? |
| 20:13.31 | wps | Zzzzzzz.... |
| 20:15.11 | wps | hey, now… be nice to eventum |
| 20:16.11 | jsmith | You like it? I've never tried it. |
| 20:17.03 | wps | oh, I was just making a joke about something having to touch my head |
| 20:17.03 | wps | but, yeah, I actually do like it... quite a bit |
| 20:17.03 | wps | it's the best project tracking/bug tracking app I seen/used |
| 20:17.10 | jsmith | Hmmmmn... |
| 20:17.21 | wps | save not being able to make issue dependent on each other, it's great |
| 20:17.22 | jsmith | ... and since it's part of MySQL, it won't run on PostgreSQL :-( |
| 20:18.26 | wps | a big thing for me is interface. If I have to use something all day, it has to be straight-forward, intuitive, easy to use, and nice to look at |
| 20:18.43 | jsmith | Aha... |
| 20:18.50 | jsmith | I really ought to check it out... |
| 20:19.06 | wps | dotproject and bugzilla are awful in regards to actually using them and interface |
| 20:19.32 | wps | I don't care how many features it has... if software is nasty ugly and is difficult to use, it's not worth it |
| 20:19.40 | jsmith | What about Mantis for bug tracking? |
| 20:19.47 | jsmith | Or RT? |
| 20:19.48 | wps | dotproject rocks in regards to features, but the interface sucks |
| 20:19.54 | wps | I've never used Mantis |
| 20:19.57 | wps | what's RT? |
| 20:20.38 | wps | I have used Eventum on a few projects though and really like... if they could just add dependancies and a gantt view, it would be nearly perfect |
| 20:21.14 | jsmith | No dependencies? No Gantt views? Try Zentrack then... |
| 20:22.08 | wps | it depends on what you are using it for though |
| 20:22.27 | wps | for bug tracking, you don't need gantt... and that is what the MySQL guys wrote it for |
| 20:22.28 | jsmith | Yeah... basically for a list of things that need to get done, with dependencies |
| 20:22.47 | wps | for development though, gantt and dependancies are necessary |
| 20:22.49 | jsmith | And the ability to see what my team needs to get done. |
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| 20:29.10 | jsmith | Plus, zentrack uses ADOdb, so it's database agnostic. |
| 20:29.30 | wps | "database agnostic" <-- ha ha ha |
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| 20:37.21 | jsmith | wps: Why are you laughing? |
| 20:37.41 | wps | cause that's a funny phrase |
| 20:37.53 | dataw0lf|w | sup guys. |
| 20:38.17 | jsmith | wps: No, it's an accurate phrase... most people feel all too "religious" about their favorite database |
| 20:38.25 | wps | true |
| 20:38.38 | jsmith | So, hence the reason I use the phrase "database agnostic" |
| 20:39.15 | dataw0lf|w | ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY POSTGRES ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH???!! |
| 20:39.48 | jsmith | dataw0lf: No, I'm the world's number one PostgreSQL fan |
| 20:40.22 | tierra | then why haven't you started the crusade then? |
| 20:40.36 | jsmith | I was just commenting on how a certain bug tracker/project management/help desk software uses the ADOdb db abstraction layer, which makes it database agnostic. |
| 20:41.49 | jsmith | dataw0lf: I'm on the crusade with you man... down to databases without features like transactions/triggers/UDF/stored procedures/row level locking/cursors |
| 20:41.55 | dataw0lf|w | word. |
| 20:42.02 | dataw0lf|w | let's go kill some newbies. |
| 20:42.34 | jsmith | Or at least teach them that they have a choice :-) |
| 20:42.43 | dataw0lf|w | no, no, no much more enjoyable this way. |
| 20:42.55 | dataw0lf|w | I mean, not only does he use MySQL, he uses Gentoo too. |
| 20:43.00 | dataw0lf|w | he deserved to have his head chopped off. |
| 20:43.24 | jsmith | I got in trouble several months back for mentioning what a terrible database MySQL is to our CTO, who happened to be bragging to another CIO about how great MySQL (3!) is. |
| 20:43.37 | dataw0lf|w | hehe. |
| 20:44.05 | dataw0lf|w | it's not that MySQL users are fanatics per se; they just haven't seen the light. |
| 20:44.26 | dataw0lf|w | although they like to pull numbers out from, like, 2000 about speed. |
| 20:44.30 | jsmith | Or have, and think it's too bright :-) |
| 20:44.36 | dataw0lf|w | hehe. |
| 20:44.54 | fungus | I like MySQL, but I am not a fanatic. I just haven't tried pgsql |
| 20:45.00 | jsmith | Since I'm only responsible for several hundred MySQL servers... what would I know, right? |
| 20:45.08 | jsmith | fungus: You really should. |
| 20:45.39 | dataw0lf|w | yes, yes, my precious.... |
| 20:46.14 | dataw0lf|w | most MySQL advocates aren't doing much more than simple insert and selects. |
| 20:46.25 | dataw0lf|w | jsmith: what's the project? |
| 20:46.33 | fungus | I haven't had a need for any of those features until now. triggers look quite useful. |
| 20:46.53 | jsmith | A database-backed monitoring system similar to Nagios. |
| 20:47.01 | dataw0lf|w | ahh. |
| 20:47.05 | dataw0lf|w | I just setup Nagios at work. |
| 20:47.27 | jsmith | Lucky you... I monitor thousands of hosts with Nagios |
| 20:47.34 | jsmith | And it doesn't scale well to thousands of hosts. |
| 20:47.48 | jsmith | You wanna know how stupid Nagios is? |
| 20:48.02 | jsmith | It re-reads and re-parses all the configs *every time* you hit a web page. |
| 20:48.04 | dataw0lf|w | is this one of those 'yo nagios..' jokes? |
| 20:48.04 | fungus | No it doesn't scale, but how do you monitor a database server if your monitor system depends on the database? |
| 20:49.23 | jsmith | fungus: Well, here's the catch -- I'm building this thing to be distributed, so that you have multiple boxes checking each other :-) |
| 20:49.53 | fungus | That is nice, but you should also add the option to be standalone. |
| 20:50.21 | fungus | that is what I do like about nagios. |
| 20:51.03 | jsmith | Yes, it'd have the option. |
| 20:51.14 | jsmith | But then it's up to you to monitor *it* and make sure it's still running. |
| 20:51.39 | jsmith | http://test.plug.org:2500/krull/show/HomePage |
| 20:51.47 | jsmith | Anyhoo, there's the logo and a few ideas... |
| 20:52.13 | dataw0lf|w | heh, you designed the logo first? |
| 20:52.16 | fungus | I might suggest having it use the nagios plugins, as they kick ass |
| 20:52.37 | jsmith | fungus: Of course... |
| 20:52.49 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Well, my co-worker talked my wife into whipping up a little logo |
| 20:53.00 | dataw0lf|w | ah |
| 20:53.26 | dataw0lf|w | how old are you jsmith? |
| 20:53.46 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Just shy of thirty... why? |
| 20:54.29 | dataw0lf|w | just curious. |
| 20:54.49 | jsmith | Trying to figure out if I'm a 19-year-old script kiddie? |
| 21:01.05 | dataw0lf|w | oh, no, I already know you have the mind of a 19 year old script kiddie. |
| 21:01.45 | jsmith | Thanks man... |
| 21:02.05 | dataw0lf|w | just joking, sheesh. |
| 21:02.24 | jsmith | I could tell... I think I'm one of the few people in here that gets your sense of humor. |
| 21:04.43 | optikal | I think dataw0lf|w's online expressions and statements are some of the most misunderstood things.. but only in this channel really.. hehe |
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| 21:06.04 | dataw0lf|w | optikal: it's just I'm alot more mean online, really. |
| 21:06.25 | dataw0lf|w | jsmith: yeah, I've noticed ;) |
| 21:06.45 | optikal | dataw0lf|w: You? Mean online? Ive never noticed! |
| 21:06.48 | optikal | =) |
| 21:07.08 | optikal | And your statement implies that you not mean IRL.. =P |
| 21:07.12 | optikal | *your |
| 21:07.27 | dataw0lf|w | *you're |
| 21:07.37 | dataw0lf|w | I'm not AS mean. |
| 21:07.52 | optikal | aah yes.. you're.. what was I thinking. |
| 21:07.54 | optikal | oh wait, I wasnt. =) |
| 21:07.59 | optikal | But yeah.. tru.. your not AS mean. =) |
| 21:08.21 | optikal | Im generally a super nice guy IRL.. but I piss off the random few deserving idioits. |
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| 21:08.51 | optikal | Thats right.. what would I do without you here to corrrect me dw!? |
| 21:09.00 | optikal | Have bad grammer! |
| 21:09.09 | optikal | =P |
| 21:11.38 | dataw0lf|w | fixing fw, I'll get back to you in a second |
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| 22:10.25 | macnewbold | wps: thanks for posting that article so quickly... you're really quick on the draw! |
| 22:10.36 | wps | it sends me an email :) |
| 22:10.56 | macnewbold | yeah, I guessed it might... you always know as soon as anything happes |
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| 23:05.51 | macnewbold | friday, 5pm... |
| 23:05.53 | macnewbold | time to head out |
| 23:06.02 | macnewbold | everybody have a great weekend! :) |
| 23:18.43 | jsmith | macnewbold: You too... |
| 23:19.05 | macnewbold | thanks, jsmith |
| 23:19.07 | macnewbold | see ya monday |
| 23:19.18 | jsmith | Yup... |
| 23:28.49 | optikal- | is out |