| 00:21.09 | bigdog_ut | tierra, so i figured it out too...i had a tab after the mysql username |
| 00:24.18 | tierra | heh |
| 00:24.29 | bigdog_ut | dude this does suck...lol |
| 00:24.32 | tierra | I hate it when it's something so small and stupid |
| 00:24.55 | bigdog_ut | well now it is messing up on the query |
| 00:25.27 | bigdog_ut | its doing queries with "" in the select |
| 00:25.42 | tierra | I'd rather leave the domain and account table management to vpopmail rather than being forced to come up with my own table structure, etc, that works with postfix |
| 00:27.25 | tierra | it's cool that it's open for that kind of low level configuration for flexability with big systems that use other software that uses the same tables, but it's more freedom than I really need at this point |
| 00:27.44 | tierra | besides, with vpopmail, you can still code up your own scripts to manage it |
| 00:27.45 | bigdog_ut | yeah...i am wondering if this is what i want...lol |
| 00:28.30 | tierra | http://php.net/vpopmail |
| 00:29.26 | bigdog_ut | yeah, perhaps i might rethink this |
| 00:29.29 | bigdog_ut | not sure yet |
| 00:29.39 | bigdog_ut | kinda challenging |
| 00:33.12 | tierra | hehe... when I was first getting into mail, I had a good idea what was out there, but had never touched anything until I got forced into the position of fixing a mail server here at work... qmail was already installed, but it had stopped working a few months prior, so I went about 4-5 8-hour days trying sendmail, postfix, exim, and qmail again just hoping one of them would work |
| 00:33.45 | tierra | went through 3-4 different tutorials on all of them |
| 00:34.16 | macnewbold | sendmail on FreeBSD is easy |
| 00:34.28 | macnewbold | so is just about anything else, but I haven't tried other mailers on bsd |
| 00:34.58 | tierra | I've never played on a BSD system at all actually |
| 00:37.59 | bigdog_ut | yeah i do qmail on some servers...but i wanted to try out postfix and see |
| 00:38.09 | bigdog_ut | i got courier working semi |
| 00:38.23 | bigdog_ut | i am having issues reading the maildir right now for the user |
| 00:40.49 | macnewbold | FreeBSD is kind of like Linux, but without the distro wars, and the different file locations and methods for doing things on different distros |
| 00:41.25 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 00:42.09 | bigdog_ut | crap i got it working...lol |
| 00:44.37 | tierra | macnewbold, you just described FreeBSD as pretty much another distro of linux... |
| 00:44.40 | tierra | hehe |
| 00:44.56 | macnewbold | no, the opposite |
| 00:45.04 | macnewbold | in freebsd, the files are always in the right place |
| 00:45.10 | macnewbold | and you do it the same way on any FreeBSD box |
| 00:45.14 | macnewbold | w/linux, |
| 00:45.46 | macnewbold | you do it differently on every distro, |
| 00:45.56 | macnewbold | different if you're using a different package manager |
| 00:46.17 | macnewbold | different if you're doing it during the wrong phase of the moon |
| 00:46.28 | tierra | that's definately a good way of going about it... well... maybe not if standards changed, and the directory structure didn't quite describe how the system is setup and works |
| 00:46.50 | macnewbold | they want to be different distros of the same OS, but they're not very similar at all in many cases, other than the kernel itself |
| 00:47.16 | macnewbold | tierra: what standards could change that would affect it? |
| 00:48.09 | tierra | a better way of organizing config files, libraries, documentation, etc, etc... |
| 00:48.16 | tierra | I dunno |
| 00:48.25 | macnewbold | but FreeBSD _sets_ their standard |
| 00:49.10 | bigdog_ut | linux does too...but many distros donot follow the standard |
| 00:49.26 | tierra | but it locks them into going about it one way, not being able to really change it except in a new version or something, but every program distributed with it would need those changes done all at the same time |
| 00:49.36 | macnewbold | eww, no |
| 00:49.47 | macnewbold | programs don't care about where you put stuff |
| 00:49.55 | macnewbold | as long as you've got your compiler flags set right and stuff |
| 00:50.12 | macnewbold | part of the point is that you put stuff in good places, then you _don't_ change it |
| 00:50.28 | macnewbold | it's nice, comfortable, predictable, and doesn't change out from under you every other week |
| 00:51.22 | tierra | I don't know of any distros that constantly change directory locations / structure hardly ever.... |
| 00:51.33 | tierra | from distro to distro, yes |
| 00:51.43 | macnewbold | almost as bad... |
| 00:51.46 | tierra | but not from old distro version to new distro version |
| 00:51.49 | macnewbold | same OS should be same OS |
| 00:51.57 | macnewbold | but no, you get it different everywhere |
| 00:52.11 | macnewbold | and every distro seems to want to be different and unique somehow, |
| 00:52.13 | tierra | that doesn't mean the filesystem needs to be the same though |
| 00:52.23 | macnewbold | so they keep choosing stupider and stupider ways :) |
| 00:52.36 | macnewbold | no, not the FS per se, but the layout of what goes where, etc. |
| 00:53.04 | macnewbold | like having standard ways of using /etc, /etc/mail, /etc/rc.d/, /usr/local/, /var/ and so forth |
| 00:53.52 | bigdog_ut | yep they have a standard for that |
| 00:54.21 | macnewbold | does any distro follow it? |
| 00:54.51 | bigdog_ut | some do |
| 00:55.02 | bigdog_ut | gentoo does try and follow it |
| 00:55.36 | tierra | for the most part, yeah, but it depends on what the distro uses as their standard for stuff like init scripts, xinetd, stuff like that |
| 00:56.03 | macnewbold | right... if every distro does something different there, an admin has to learn each distro he's going to use |
| 00:56.19 | tierra | your filesystem structure is going to change one way or another with new versions of init that work a different (but better) way |
| 00:56.49 | tierra | but if there was no change, there would be no improvement |
| 00:57.00 | macnewbold | yes and no... if you put all your init stuff in /etc/rc/ or whatever, |
| 00:57.11 | macnewbold | you can still keep it there even if you're using a different program to do the init |
| 00:57.21 | macnewbold | changing the code doesn't require changig all the file paths |
| 00:57.42 | macnewbold | in fact, it's very easy to _not_ change the file paths when you change the code |
| 00:57.54 | macnewbold | cause code doesn't care much about file paths... |
| 00:58.37 | tierra | it definately doesn't get worse, since people just don't use that distro... it's the various flavors of linux that powers it's advancement... someone comes up with a new idea for package management, and boom, Gentoo takes off like a rocket, if it really was a good idea, people get attached, and it's adopted as the new standard... |
| 00:59.20 | macnewbold | but you don't need to have different distros to have innovation... look at FreeBSD |
| 00:59.22 | macnewbold | one OS |
| 00:59.24 | macnewbold | one ports collection |
| 00:59.26 | tierra | your talking about locking down innovation for the sake of backwards compatability |
| 00:59.28 | macnewbold | and lots of innovation all the time |
| 00:59.36 | macnewbold | no, not for backwards compat |
| 00:59.45 | macnewbold | for the "principle of least surprise" to the admins that have to work with it |
| 01:00.39 | tierra | well, that's when you find the distro that best follows your ideals and is easiest to use for your own sake, and support it |
| 01:05.50 | synic | there were some things I just didn't like |
| 01:05.58 | synic | mostly about ports |
| 01:06.48 | synic | I just don't dig the whole compile everything approach |
| 01:07.03 | synic | sure free has pkg_add -r, but that pales in comparison to a binary package manager like apt |
| 01:07.27 | synic | other than that, I'd use freebsd over some distros for sure |
| 01:08.27 | macnewbold | synic: yeah, the binary thing isn't that great in freebsd |
| 01:08.33 | macnewbold | except when you're installing from isos |
| 01:08.45 | macnewbold | but who want's binarys anyway? |
| 01:08.50 | synic | me :) |
| 01:08.55 | macnewbold | why? |
| 01:09.13 | synic | because it doesn't take 8 hours to install kde |
| 01:09.20 | synic | instead, it takes less than 15 minutes |
| 01:09.22 | macnewbold | yeah, but you only install kde once |
| 01:09.26 | macnewbold | from the install isos, |
| 01:09.31 | macnewbold | which have binary pkgs on them |
| 01:09.32 | synic | it's not just that, it's everything. |
| 01:09.37 | synic | I hate the wait |
| 01:09.50 | synic | when there's not really a good reason to compile everything |
| 01:10.02 | synic | sure, some things need special options, and you compile those packages |
| 01:10.05 | macnewbold | most ports I install take 5-20 minutes to build, depending on whether I'm on my good box or my 500Mhz K6-2 box |
| 01:10.20 | synic | most packages I install take less than a minute |
| 01:10.51 | macnewbold | my guess is that since freebsd makes the ports so easy, there's not a lot of demand for binary stuff :) |
| 01:11.20 | synic | well, alternatively you've got archlinux :) |
| 01:11.25 | synic | pacman -S kde installs it from binary |
| 01:11.34 | synic | srcpac -S kde installs it from source |
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| 01:11.51 | macnewbold | to each their own, I guess |
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| 01:12.01 | macnewbold | if I were a linux guy, I'd probably be using gentoo, maybe |
| 01:12.16 | synic | I used gentoo... until I bought a 500mhz laptop |
| 01:12.19 | macnewbold | anyway, g'night all... the wife's a callin' |
| 01:12.24 | synic | alright, later |
| 01:12.27 | macnewbold | hehe, yeah, synic I know what you mean |
| 01:12.44 | macnewbold | my box at home is 5+ years old, and was only middle-of-the-line to begin with :) |
| 01:12.54 | macnewbold | but it still runs fine as a BSD box |
| 01:13.08 | macnewbold | on windows, I had to call it quits 3 years ago cause it was too slow |
| 01:13.27 | synic | yeah, the 500mhz did great with a binary distro |
| 01:13.34 | synic | but then I needed that sense of consistency |
| 01:13.49 | synic | so... I usually run arch on everything not server |
| 01:13.53 | synic | and debian on the servers |
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| 05:36.34 | mindjuju | anybody know how to use the date() function to show what month next month is going to be numerically |
| 05:36.43 | mindjuju | or is there another function that will do that? |
| 05:37.11 | bigdog_ut | check out the calendar functions |
| 05:54.45 | bigdog_ut | tierra, u there? |
| 05:54.57 | tierra | yeah |
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| 14:31.42 | bigdog_ut | mornin' all |
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| 17:37.23 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, i got my postfix server up and running last night |
| 17:43.34 | macnewbold | bigdog_ut: cool! did you open the port in your firewall too? |
| 17:43.57 | macnewbold | looks like you did: |
| 17:44.06 | macnewbold | > telnet thebigdog.biz 25 |
| 17:44.06 | macnewbold | Trying 166.70.192.70... |
| 17:44.06 | macnewbold | Connected to thebigdog.biz. |
| 17:44.06 | macnewbold | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 17:44.06 | macnewbold | 220 zeus.thebigdog.biz ESMTP Postfix |
| 17:44.26 | macnewbold | looks like someone's a fan of greek mythology :) |
| 17:47.38 | bigdog_ut | oh yeah |
| 17:48.28 | bigdog_ut | it works good...i have been testing it out and it is killer |
| 17:48.42 | bigdog_ut | now i am setting up spamassassin with postfix |
| 18:54.51 | dataw0lf | you guys know if there is a awstats clone in php? |
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| 19:45.12 | bigdog_ut | nope |
| 20:22.11 | macnewbold | anyone here looking for a job? |
| 20:22.27 | bigdog_ut | what kinda job? |
| 20:22.31 | macnewbold | LAMP+javascript |
| 20:22.48 | bigdog_ut | contract -o fulltime |
| 20:22.57 | macnewbold | full time |
| 20:23.16 | macnewbold | for a good guy... pays well, afaik, and should be a lot of fun |
| 20:23.24 | bigdog_ut | located where? |
| 20:23.41 | macnewbold | he's in lehi/highland area, but I think he's open to telecommute |
| 20:23.55 | macnewbold | at least part of the time if not every day |
| 20:24.33 | bigdog_ut | if i could do it at night telecommute then i would be interested in hearing more |
| 20:24.51 | macnewbold | I'll ask him and probably have him get in touch with you, if that's cool |
| 20:25.05 | bigdog_ut | thats cool |
| 20:25.05 | macnewbold | you'd do great there, if you want it |
| 20:26.19 | bigdog_ut | como te vas vos |
| 20:26.36 | macnewbold | andamos, che |
| 20:26.50 | bigdog_ut | me voy a cantar una cancion |
| 20:26.56 | macnewbold | muy bien |
| 20:26.58 | bigdog_ut | para todos aqui |
| 20:26.59 | macnewbold | cual? |
| 20:27.19 | bigdog_ut | un poco de halo |
| 20:27.41 | macnewbold | y que tal le gusta? |
| 20:28.05 | bigdog_ut | si?, que bien vos |
| 20:28.31 | optikal- | speaka english, we liva in america! |
| 20:28.33 | optikal- | =P |
| 20:28.47 | macnewbold | antes de almorzar, estaba escuchando a Mozart sinfonia 31 en D |
| 20:28.50 | bigdog_ut | ~slap optikal- |
| 20:28.52 | jbot | ACTION slaps optikal-, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:29.04 | optikal- | ow! |
| 20:29.29 | bigdog_ut | mozart es bueno...pero me gusta un poco de rock'y'rol |
| 20:30.03 | bigdog_ut | estoy compilando algunas applicaciones en me box de gentoo |
| 20:30.31 | bigdog_ut | no se es compilar es la palabra correctiva |
| 20:30.33 | macnewbold | si, tengo una lista larga que incluye a muchas cosas differentes |
| 20:30.38 | macnewbold | si, compilar |
| 20:31.04 | bigdog_ut | hace como 10 anos que regreso a la mision |
| 20:31.21 | macnewbold | hace 6 para mi |
| 20:31.33 | bigdog_ut | si...oh mucho para me |
| 20:32.00 | macnewbold | siente como 10 a veces :) |
| 20:32.07 | bigdog_ut | no hay tiempo para practicar |
| 20:32.28 | macnewbold | hay un amigo en mi barrio que es de Mexico... |
| 20:32.47 | macnewbold | practicamos un poco, pero ahora entiendo mucho mejor que hablo |
| 20:32.54 | macnewbold | me da tristeza |
| 20:33.06 | macnewbold | tengo que practicar mas |
| 20:33.35 | bigdog_ut | si yo tambien...no hay nadie para con que puedo practicar |
| 20:34.20 | macnewbold | hablar con latinos es mejor para mi que hablar con otros gringos, porque mucho de lo que perdi son cosas idiomaticas, expresiones y cosas asi que otros gringos no sepan tampoco :) |
| 20:34.33 | macnewbold | pero hablar es hablar, con quien sea |
| 20:34.42 | macnewbold | necesito ensenar a mis hijos ahora |
| 20:35.02 | macnewbold | el mayor ya tiene 3.5 anos, y el tiempo se va rapido |
| 20:35.51 | bigdog_ut | si...ensenye a mis hijos un poco...pero ellas no tienen tiempo para me para ensenar |
| 20:43.42 | dataw0lf | psh |
| 20:43.55 | dataw0lf | tutto conosce lo spagnolo, italiano di prova preferibilmente |
| 20:46.07 | dataw0lf | naturalmente, l'italiano potrebbe essere troppo duro per voi.... |
| 20:47.54 | dataw0lf | aunque, no puedo decirme hable espanol muy bien |
| 20:48.16 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 20:52.49 | bigdog_ut | that translator works great..which one did you use? babel? |
| 20:53.30 | dataw0lf | I used a translator on the spanish. But not on the italian. |
| 20:55.21 | dataw0lf | I used to know japanese semi well.. these days I can read katakana, hiragana, and a very tiny amount of kanji. |
| 20:55.27 | dataw0lf | can't speak it though. |
| 20:55.42 | dataw0lf | I can understand german ok, too. but I get better as I drink. |
| 20:55.58 | dataw0lf | my dad is trying to teach me lakota sioux but I don't think I have the mental capacity to learn it. |
| 20:56.11 | dataw0lf | italian is about all I can say I'm semi fluent in. |
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| 21:02.13 | macnewbold | yeah, I used to study japanese too. My dad speaks it pretty well, and understands it. Most of what I know is the katakana and hiragana alphabets, though I'm pretty rusty. |
| 21:03.12 | macnewbold | though the other day, I was looking at a lithium watch battery that had some japanese on it, and was able to make out "ri-chi-u-ma ba-te-rii" |
| 21:03.20 | macnewbold | in katakana |
| 21:04.02 | dataw0lf | I always screw up the 'j*' and all the "'s in katakana |
| 21:05.36 | macnewbold | hehe... yeah, it's an interesting system... quite different from english |
| 21:06.13 | macnewbold | it's weird to me to see all the vowel sounds tied in with the consonant, so that a consonant is a different letter with each different vowel sound, |
| 21:06.17 | dataw0lf | I just got turned off of it because my teacher was an idiot. |
| 21:06.31 | macnewbold | but then to be able to add a little modifier, and change the consonant sound altogether |
| 21:06.41 | dataw0lf | we couldn't bring up anything un sympathetic to the japanese involving WW2. |
| 21:06.47 | macnewbold | yeah, the teacher I had was a japanese exchange student |
| 21:07.12 | dataw0lf | ours was just a white chick who wanted to be japanese really, really badly. |
| 21:07.30 | dataw0lf | that's probably the main reason why I hate anime to this day. |
| 21:09.13 | dataw0lf | besides, I hate Japanese culture :) |
| 21:10.18 | dataw0lf | all Brainbench exams are free until April. |
| 21:15.50 | tierra | brainbench really, really, sucks |
| 21:16.08 | dataw0lf | why do you say that? |
| 21:16.43 | macnewbold | I really like japanese culture, personally. |
| 21:16.53 | macnewbold | yeah, tierra... what's wrong with brainbench? |
| 21:16.55 | tierra | I took their linux administration test like, 3-4 weeks ago... it's soo out dated |
| 21:17.09 | macnewbold | yeah, some of their tests are pretty bad :) |
| 21:17.16 | dataw0lf | yeah, their PHP test made me boggle. |
| 21:17.22 | macnewbold | half of the PHP one was on LDAP or XML functions... |
| 21:17.27 | dataw0lf | hehe. |
| 21:17.28 | tierra | like go back 7-8 years, and maybe that test would be useful |
| 21:17.29 | dataw0lf | yeah. |
| 21:17.35 | dataw0lf | what'd you score on the test tierra? |
| 21:17.41 | macnewbold | nothing to do with PHP itself unless you happen to use those things for something |
| 21:17.41 | tierra | lemme check |
| 21:17.42 | dataw0lf | I didn't think the Linux Administration test was that dated. |
| 21:17.56 | macnewbold | Some DB stuff, maybe relevant, since almost everything PHP uses a database these days |
| 21:17.58 | dataw0lf | I thought there were alot of spurious tests. |
| 21:18.03 | dataw0lf | err questions. |
| 21:18.11 | dataw0lf | but I've found that seems to be the norm for brainbench test. |
| 21:18.14 | macnewbold | but LDAP and XML are a bit too obscure for a general PHP exam |
| 21:18.16 | dataw0lf | I don't really remember anything being that dated though. |
| 21:18.34 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: I agree. |
| 21:18.45 | dataw0lf | I took the PHP test like, two days ago or something, I couldn't believe some of the questions. |
| 21:18.49 | tierra | have the questions I was being asked were related to setting up and using LPT printers... I thought that was really weighted unfairly |
| 21:18.58 | dataw0lf | It nearly drove me to cheating. |
| 21:19.18 | tierra | Linux Administration (General) |
| 21:19.18 | tierra | Score:2.87 |
| 21:19.18 | tierra | Percentile:Scored higher than 63% of previous examinees |
| 21:19.47 | dataw0lf | http://www.brainbench.com/xml/bb/transcript/public/viewtranscript.xml?pid=5395302 |
| 21:20.15 | dataw0lf | there were some spurious questions, agreed. |
| 21:20.21 | tierra | it's also one of those tests that asks you questions you have reference for... not like a test that really tests knowledge and experience with linux |
| 21:20.30 | dataw0lf | I dunno. |
| 21:20.38 | dataw0lf | I knew all the questions I got right offhand. |
| 21:20.49 | dataw0lf | I thought the PHP test was much worse. |
| 21:21.07 | dataw0lf | but, yeah, there were some spurious, stupid questions on both tests. |
| 21:21.28 | dataw0lf | hehe, I don't think it's meant to take the place of, like, a RHCE. |
| 21:21.48 | tierra | well, I guess they are still usable to a point... but I wouldn't trust them to an accurate level |
| 21:22.08 | tierra | yeah, exactly |
| 21:22.30 | tierra | that's a good point as well |
| 21:22.40 | macnewbold | do a Fedora test, or a Debian test, or a FreeBSD test, or an OSX test, or a HP-UX test |
| 21:22.45 | macnewbold | but don't try and test all of them at once |
| 21:22.56 | macnewbold | unless you're going to only cover stuff that's the same in all of them |
| 21:24.01 | macnewbold | when I took the linux test on brainbench, it ended up being a test of how well I could apply my FreeBSD knowledge to their questions. I'm pretty sure the same would be true no matter which distro you had experience with. I still passed though :) |
| 21:24.19 | dataw0lf | well. |
| 21:24.33 | dataw0lf | in my opinion, Linux systems ARE Linux systems. |
| 21:24.37 | dataw0lf | obviously, there are differences. |
| 21:24.46 | dataw0lf | but if you can operate in one distro, you can operate in another, to a point. |
| 21:25.07 | dataw0lf | and I don't classify OS X with the others. |
| 21:25.08 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 21:27.10 | bigdog_ut | it depends to though on some distros (linux flavors are very similar) however, debian, hp-ux and freebsd and all very different |
| 21:27.46 | dataw0lf | agreed. |
| 21:28.24 | bigdog_ut | that is why i got the oreilly essential sys admin book..it outlines the diffs for each of those types |
| 21:28.51 | bigdog_ut | but i would not lump unix, bsd, and linux in one test |
| 21:28.54 | bigdog_ut | that is crazzy |
| 21:29.11 | dataw0lf | Which I don't think they thid. |
| 21:29.14 | dataw0lf | *did |
| 21:30.46 | dataw0lf | and Solaris is just.. something else. |
| 21:31.05 | dataw0lf | ok. |
| 21:31.10 | dataw0lf | dataw0lf.org/index.php |
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| 21:31.22 | dataw0lf | compare News Entries to dataw0lf.org/links.php |
| 21:31.43 | dataw0lf | should I have the title cut offs... or no? |
| 21:32.21 | optikal- | cut offs? |
| 21:32.29 | dataw0lf | look at the news entries. |
| 21:32.37 | dataw0lf | compare the two. |
| 21:32.38 | optikal- | oh |
| 21:32.40 | dataw0lf | you'll understand. |
| 21:32.58 | optikal- | hmm. |
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| 21:34.54 | optikal- | It definately works better than 'Entry 1' |
| 21:35.17 | dataw0lf | ok, that's all I needed to know. |
| 21:35.19 | optikal- | Just threw me off at first, with the font and the font character spacing.. but i dig. |
| 21:37.26 | dataw0lf | oh jesus. |
| 21:37.40 | dataw0lf | I'm done pandering to your tastes. |
| 21:38.10 | dataw0lf | argh. |
| 21:38.14 | dataw0lf | ok, what's wrong with it. |
| 21:38.29 | optikal- | meh, its not really something i would worry about fixing. |
| 21:38.35 | optikal- | I cant think of the name.. |
| 21:39.09 | optikal- | But its where fonts either have a specified width for each letter, so the spacing is exact no matter if its a ' or a O.. |
| 21:39.40 | macnewbold | monospaced fonts vs. variable width fonts? |
| 21:39.44 | optikal- | ^^ yes |
| 21:39.56 | optikal- | couldnt think of the names heh |
| 21:39.57 | macnewbold | most are kind of ugly, so people don't use them :) |
| 21:40.02 | optikal- | yeah, exactly. |
| 21:40.13 | optikal- | its a shame, cause they can be quite useful at times. |
| 21:40.17 | macnewbold | absolutely |
| 21:43.10 | dataw0lf | yeah, monospaced fonts don't look good in there. |
| 21:43.44 | dataw0lf | man, I'm going to town with these gradients. |
| 21:44.22 | dataw0lf | it's about the only thing I can do really with Gimp so I'm using them extravagantly. |
| 21:45.30 | optikal- | yeah |
| 21:45.33 | optikal- | i suck at gimp too |
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| 22:00.53 | dataw0lf | advice: if you have a non critical sshd service running, I suggest turning it off. |
| 22:01.04 | bigdog_ut | for? |
| 22:04.03 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: did you get hax0red again? some0ne st0l3d your m3gahurtz? |
| 22:04.32 | dataw0lf | There's a rather serious ssh exploit in the wild. |
| 22:06.47 | tierra | there's aparently a lot of nodes on the same switch as ibaku that get a ton of brute force ssh attempts... I haven't seen any attempts on ibaku yet though... I'll probably throw some iptables rules on once it does happen |
| 22:07.32 | dataw0lf | yeah, ssh brute forces are a way of the world. |
| 22:08.29 | dataw0lf | this exploit will probably start hitting all the big security mailing lists in three days. Always good to know before hand though. |
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| 22:23.11 | bigdog_ut | while talking about security...anyone have any good log parsers they like to use? |
| 22:41.37 | fungus | not really, i just use a log watcher, that mails me logs that match/don't match my regexes. |
| 22:49.18 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: do you have a link to the serious exploit to which you refer? |
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