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| 00:15.57 | bigdog_ut | afternoon all |
| 00:17.22 | fungus | Afternoon. |
| 00:17.44 | bigdog_ut | hows it going fungus? |
| 00:18.30 | fungus | Not bad, just tried the preview live cd of ubuntu. very nice. |
| 00:18.45 | bigdog_ut | yeah...i used one on my boss today |
| 00:19.18 | bigdog_ut | it is very nice |
| 00:20.13 | fungus | I am going to install it, and try it out for a while. I will probably end back up at FreeBSD, but it is worth a try. |
| 00:22.01 | bigdog_ut | yeah i installed it on a laptop and use it to mess around with |
| 00:29.11 | spiderbiter | afternoon back at ya bigdog_ut |
| 00:29.20 | spiderbiter | evening, even |
| 02:04.57 | bigdog_ut | hows it going spiderbiter |
| 02:05.24 | spiderbiter | not bad |
| 02:05.48 | bigdog_ut | likewise, i am just setting up a mail server |
| 02:06.17 | spiderbiter | I'm just comping up some suggestions for table layout on a doc management app |
| 02:06.45 | spiderbiter | and waiting to hear if my offer gets accepted tonight on that Duplex |
| 02:06.54 | bigdog_ut | docs management app...really |
| 02:07.15 | spiderbiter | yeah ... |
| 02:07.17 | bigdog_ut | i did a docs management app for a company that was cool |
| 02:07.35 | bigdog_ut | interfaced with faxes and had a bar code reader |
| 02:07.48 | spiderbiter | this is for a company that sells scanners and printers |
| 02:08.15 | bigdog_ut | what you writing it in? |
| 02:08.34 | spiderbiter | they have an app that they use to database the doc data and archive a scan of it |
| 02:08.43 | spiderbiter | it's a java app |
| 02:08.55 | spiderbiter | I'm just helping them with JSP templating |
| 02:08.58 | bigdog_ut | cool |
| 02:09.16 | bigdog_ut | ah...jsp...no jsf with it |
| 02:10.18 | spiderbiter | jsf? |
| 02:10.33 | bigdog_ut | java server faces |
| 02:10.39 | bigdog_ut | replacement for jsp |
| 02:13.07 | spiderbiter | does it cut some of the tag nesting complexity? |
| 02:13.13 | bigdog_ut | kinda |
| 02:13.40 | bigdog_ut | http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/index.jsp |
| 02:14.03 | bigdog_ut | kinda incorporates the struts technology into jsp |
| 02:14.41 | bigdog_ut | simplifies the building process really |
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| 17:05.02 | optikal | http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10348661&adid=17653&dcaid=17653 |
| 17:08.54 | fungus | Sweet, I am ordering one right now. |
| 17:09.22 | optikal | heh |
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| 17:26.37 | bigdog_ut | mornin' all |
| 17:28.03 | optikal | mornin |
| 17:28.38 | bigdog_ut | hows it going optikal? |
| 17:28.53 | optikal | very tired and quite hungover, you? |
| 17:29.13 | bigdog_ut | bored out of my mind...debugging plsql |
| 17:29.52 | bigdog_ut | and debating whether to install subversion or cvs for a new repository |
| 17:29.52 | optikal | hehe |
| 17:30.01 | optikal | aah =) |
| 17:30.08 | optikal | no need for SVN or ? |
| 17:30.32 | optikal | tierra just installed a full SVN on his server |
| 17:31.01 | bigdog_ut | cool..i have alot of tools that use cvs so i am wondering if they have svn components too |
| 17:31.08 | bigdog_ut | and i dont want two apache servers |
| 17:31.18 | bigdog_ut | i use 1.3.x alot...not sure if i want apache2 |
| 17:31.28 | optikal | I use both |
| 17:31.32 | optikal | I like Apache2 a lot |
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| 17:32.43 | bigdog_ut | im a big apache1 fan and i do like apache2 though...there are some killer improvments |
| 17:32.50 | optikal | yeah |
| 17:32.52 | bigdog_ut | i might just do subversion |
| 17:33.00 | optikal | im just an 'apache' fan.. i do really enjoy using both of them |
| 17:33.56 | bigdog_ut | yeah i know the feeling...apache just rocks |
| 17:47.14 | mrpull | apache is crashing on me :-/ |
| 17:47.36 | bigdog_ut | whatz the problem mrpull? |
| 17:48.02 | mrpull | my customer has a oci8 script that crashes apache |
| 17:48.16 | mrpull | nothing gets logged to the error log |
| 17:48.50 | mrpull | the only indication of what is happening is from when I start httpd -X and watch it crash |
| 17:48.54 | synic | bigdog_ut: I looked at it briefly. Seems similar to beanshell. |
| 17:48.59 | mrpull | I get OCI-21522: attempted to use an invalid connection in OCI (object mode only) |
| 17:49.48 | bigdog_ut | did you check oracles website for that err |
| 17:49.58 | bigdog_ut | synic, what are you referring too? |
| 17:50.13 | mrpull | I looked at the oracle php forum |
| 17:50.21 | mrpull | didn't have any luck searching |
| 17:50.37 | bigdog_ut | check oracles website that looks like an oracle error |
| 17:50.51 | synic | bigdog_ut: that question you asked me on friday... about groovy |
| 17:51.00 | synic | slightly late response :) |
| 17:51.02 | bigdog_ut | http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=28944&edit=1 |
| 17:51.32 | mrpull | bigdog: I'll search some more. I'm pretty certain it is an Oracle error as well. I'm not sure why it is crashing apache tho :-/ |
| 17:51.42 | bigdog_ut | oh yeah...it is similar to that |
| 17:52.28 | bigdog_ut | mrpull, what version of php you using? |
| 17:52.41 | mrpull | 4.3.9 (build from redhat's srpms) |
| 17:52.50 | bigdog_ut | oh |
| 17:53.00 | bigdog_ut | which version of redhat? |
| 17:53.04 | mrpull | RHEL 4 |
| 17:53.35 | bigdog_ut | you are doing 2 connections? |
| 17:53.38 | bigdog_ut | in the script? |
| 17:53.59 | bigdog_ut | make sure there is only one OCIPLogon call in the script |
| 17:54.34 | mrpull | ok. i'll look. i'm just the sysadmin... :) |
| 17:54.39 | mrpull | the code is not mine. |
| 17:54.54 | bigdog_ut | grep OCIPLogon <script> |
| 17:54.56 | mrpull | we have verified that other oci8 stuff works. |
| 17:56.02 | bigdog_ut | oci8 in php is very, very, very (did i say very) touchy |
| 17:56.03 | mrpull | it looks like he is using ocinlogon |
| 17:56.28 | mrpull | would using peardb (or some other abstraction) help? |
| 17:56.41 | bigdog_ut | depends |
| 17:57.28 | bigdog_ut | the script might not be closing the a connection |
| 17:58.21 | bigdog_ut | what version of oracle? |
| 17:58.31 | mrpull | 9i on linux on the server... |
| 17:58.37 | mrpull | 10g client on the web server |
| 17:59.47 | bigdog_ut | you might want to verify how connections are created with other scripts...there are various types: ocilogon, ocinlogon,ociplogon |
| 17:59.56 | mrpull | should I suggest he use ociplogon instead of ocinlogon? |
| 18:00.49 | bigdog_ut | if he needs persistent connections |
| 18:01.20 | mrpull | persistent connections should perform better... shouldn't they? |
| 18:01.40 | bigdog_ut | depends again...they should cause they are pooled on the server end |
| 18:02.59 | bigdog_ut | that error is a connection error though...i would verify the connection info that a working script has and see if that is the same as the one failing |
| 18:04.30 | mrpull | I'll probably need to get him to join #uphpu to dig into the details more. |
| 18:04.54 | bigdog_ut | y |
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| 21:42.45 | bigdog_ut | man it is quiet in here |
| 21:43.36 | dataw0lf | and you had to break it! |
| 21:43.37 | dataw0lf | ;) |
| 21:44.11 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 21:44.12 | wps | Shhhh! |
| 21:44.20 | bigdog_ut | no one read my story yesterday |
| 21:44.43 | wps | story? |
| 21:45.00 | bigdog_ut | yeah the one i had in the irc channel |
| 21:45.06 | bigdog_ut | yesterday mornin |
| 21:47.01 | dataw0lf | you were looking for free nameservers, bigdog_ut? |
| 21:47.03 | dataw0lf | afraid.org |
| 21:47.48 | wps | did you not like everydns.net ? |
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| 21:55.01 | bigdog_ut | i do, i was wondering if there is any thing else out there too |
| 21:56.05 | bigdog_ut | afraid.org has ipv6 support ..that is cool |
| 22:32.01 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:32.23 | bigdog_ut | oh...so that is the type of person you are...a real dancer on the inside |
| 22:35.10 | macnewbold | hehe, yeah... me dancing... it's a funny thought, no? |
| 22:36.18 | bigdog_ut | oh yea |
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| 23:36.17 | bigdog_ut | anyone familiar with courier-imap on gentoo? |
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| 23:38.04 | fungus | courier-imap yes. gentoo specific no. |
| 23:38.09 | tierra | bigdog_ut, I run it on my gentoo server, but I can't say I know a lot about it... |
| 23:38.10 | bigdog_ut | oh |
| 23:38.26 | tierra | just enough to keep it up and running |
| 23:38.43 | tierra | having some problems with the new courier-authlib? |
| 23:38.52 | bigdog_ut | tierra, man i can find the authmysqlrc file that it is using |
| 23:38.56 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 23:39.15 | bigdog_ut | i created one and put it in /etc/courier-imap/ |
| 23:39.24 | bigdog_ut | and it still is going off some other one |
| 23:39.39 | bigdog_ut | im updating locate now to see if i can track it down |
| 23:39.44 | tierra | the new authlib stuff is in /etc/courier/authlib |
| 23:40.15 | bigdog_ut | let me see if anything is there. |
| 23:40.29 | tierra | give me a min to refresh myself on the changes... |
| 23:41.13 | bigdog_ut | yeah i modified those files...let me check authdaemond |
| 23:41.17 | tierra | I don't use the authmysql module myself... |
| 23:41.46 | bigdog_ut | you need it compiled with mysql |
| 23:41.50 | bigdog_ut | but i figured it out |
| 23:42.00 | bigdog_ut | /etc/init.d/courier-authlib restart |
| 23:42.05 | tierra | hehe |
| 23:42.29 | bigdog_ut | man...the gentoo howto is saying /etc/init.d/authdaemond restart |
| 23:42.46 | tierra | I like the quick and dirty setup with authpam and authvckpw |
| 23:42.59 | tierra | that's the old method |
| 23:43.14 | tierra | they just changed it within the last month or so |
| 23:43.21 | bigdog_ut | yeah...i am trying out postfix, mysql, and virtual domains |
| 23:43.40 | bigdog_ut | it has been along time since postfix..i use qmail alot |
| 23:43.46 | tierra | ugh... yeah, I had fun with that combo before I had to give up on it |
| 23:43.55 | tierra | yeah, qmail here |
| 23:44.08 | bigdog_ut | did you ever get postfix and mysql running together |
| 23:44.33 | synic | tierra: happy birthday fool |
| 23:44.33 | tierra | no, never did... the config is pretty complex |
| 23:44.39 | tierra | thanks synic |
| 23:44.46 | synic | get anything cool? |
| 23:45.04 | tierra | camping equipment =) |
| 23:45.06 | synic | like a tool, or tuition to school? |
| 23:45.19 | synic | ah, camping equipment is good :) |