| 00:29.13 | macnewbold | jbot: gentoo =~ s/, or// |
| 00:29.13 | jbot | macnewbold: OK |
| 00:29.18 | macnewbold | ~gentoo |
| 00:29.19 | jbot | it has been said that gentoo is different than debian http://www.gentoo.org/, or |
| 00:30.13 | macnewbold | ~freebsd |
| 00:30.14 | jbot | A stable secure open source operating system.. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD: Nothing runs like a daemon with a pitch fork. |
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| 01:41.58 | synic | drewbono: did you take a look at the OS X plugin at all? |
| 01:42.02 | synic | anything I can help with? |
| 01:42.10 | drewbono | Haven't had a chance yet. |
| 01:42.12 | drewbono | But I will soon. |
| 01:42.23 | synic | cool |
| 01:42.24 | drewbono | Hopefully this weekend or early next week. |
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| 03:01.56 | bigdog_ut | whatz up all |
| 03:02.52 | mindjuju | your underwear |
| 03:02.57 | mindjuju | ~melvin bigdog_ut |
| 03:02.59 | jbot | ACTION pulls bigdog_ut underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 03:06.02 | bigdog_ut | ~insult mindjuju |
| 03:06.12 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 03:06.15 | mindjuju | yuck |
| 03:06.26 | mindjuju | ~abuse bigdog_ut |
| 03:06.28 | jbot | ACTION smacks bigdog_ut across the face. "Take that, Bitch!" |
| 03:06.39 | bigdog_ut | ~lart mindjuju |
| 03:06.54 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, lol bro |
| 03:07.09 | mindjuju | good times! |
| 03:07.15 | bigdog_ut | always |
| 03:07.25 | mindjuju | were you at the last uphpu meeting? |
| 03:07.34 | bigdog_ut | the one in feb? no |
| 03:07.57 | bigdog_ut | i will be at this one though |
| 03:08.07 | mindjuju | you know what we should do, to help wade with uphpu, we should have a lan party with proceeds going to uphpu |
| 03:08.11 | mindjuju | or uphpu gear |
| 03:08.26 | bigdog_ut | that would be cool |
| 03:08.53 | bigdog_ut | i would love to have t-shirts made for uphpu if someone did a cool logo |
| 03:09.14 | mindjuju | where's wade at a time like this? |
| 03:09.23 | bigdog_ut | horking around |
| 03:09.24 | mindjuju | we should email him some designs |
| 03:09.40 | bigdog_ut | y |
| 03:10.14 | bigdog_ut | but i am not good at design...i could do a catchy phrase |
| 03:11.49 | bigdog_ut | http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/01/01/paris.html |
| 03:12.57 | mindjuju | hilarious |
| 03:13.03 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 03:14.31 | mindjuju | i think something like this with a uphpu logo |
| 03:14.32 | mindjuju | http://niketown.nike.com/niketown/catalog/pdp.jsp?productId=72162&productGroup=88915&categoryId=53337&cp=yahoo_datafeed |
| 03:14.59 | mindjuju | i was kinda kicking some stuff around, and outline of the wasatch mountains with the initials uphpu on the lower left side |
| 03:15.16 | mindjuju | then maybe on the back something like |
| 03:15.29 | mindjuju | serving utah's l33t |
| 03:15.32 | mindjuju | just an idea |
| 03:15.43 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 03:15.53 | bigdog_ut | that sounds kind cool..i like the mountain thing |
| 03:16.27 | mindjuju | yeah, something simple |
| 03:18.49 | mindjuju | i wonder if everybody is this expensive |
| 03:18.49 | mindjuju | http://www.justwinterhats.com/winter-hats-3.php |
| 03:20.03 | bigdog_ut | not sure |
| 03:20.13 | bigdog_ut | but i like them |
| 03:20.40 | mindjuju | that $95 setup, and then it seems like you have to buy 70 of them |
| 03:20.55 | bigdog_ut | yeah not too good |
| 03:24.25 | bigdog_ut | but that would be cool if we had some shirts or hats for the group to purchase i would get a couple |
| 03:25.23 | mindjuju | me too. the company i work for routinely buys polo shirts with our logo on it, i'm going to find out tomorrow who we go through to see if they can cut us a deal |
| 03:25.45 | bigdog_ut | that would be way cool |
| 03:31.09 | mindjuju | a lan party would be pretty cool if we could decide on some games and some consoles |
| 03:31.17 | mindjuju | i've got Halo and Halo 2 |
| 03:31.29 | mindjuju | the old half life and counter strike, etc |
| 03:31.57 | bigdog_ut | yeah that would be nice...im not a big gamer though |
| 03:34.43 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5562742387&isPrinterFriendly=1 |
| 03:37.58 | bigdog_ut | crazy |
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| 05:00.12 | bigdog_ut | everyone is like sleeping now |
| 05:00.49 | mindjuju | nope, setting up php 5 on computer |
| 05:01.08 | bigdog_ut | oh php5.0.3? |
| 05:01.22 | mindjuju | yup |
| 05:01.33 | mindjuju | with php_mysqli |
| 05:01.44 | bigdog_ut | oh...:( |
| 05:01.50 | bigdog_ut | pgsql :) |
| 05:02.14 | mindjuju | i forgot that you use that one |
| 05:02.20 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 05:02.25 | bigdog_ut | i use mysql alot too |
| 05:02.32 | bigdog_ut | just not my favorite |
| 05:02.42 | bigdog_ut | i use oracle a ton so pgsql is very similar |
| 05:05.36 | bigdog_ut | but i do really like mysqls replication features |
| 05:06.20 | mindjuju | k, your kung fu is better than mine. what's replication? |
| 05:11.58 | bigdog_ut | when you have database that sync data back and forth |
| 05:12.32 | mindjuju | like between different instances of mysql servers? |
| 05:12.37 | mindjuju | like on different computers? |
| 05:14.12 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 05:14.29 | bigdog_ut | for high availability, scalability, and redundancy |
| 05:14.52 | mindjuju | oh cool, i'll have to look into that. was going to build a sandbox at home to be the same as the one the company intranet |
| 05:15.05 | mindjuju | was wondering how to link the two without having to do a sql dump into a text file |
| 05:15.23 | bigdog_ut | replication over ssh |
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| 16:06.38 | wps | is it true that subversion stores the files in a database? instead of as files? |
| 16:06.46 | bigdog_ut | no |
| 16:07.03 | bigdog_ut | unless they have a new option to configure it that way |
| 16:07.28 | wps | josh coats just said that on PLUG's mailing list |
| 16:07.40 | wps | correction: coates |
| 16:07.54 | wps | I was going to ask why on earth the subversion people did that? |
| 16:08.18 | bigdog_ut | perhaps it does for a backend part of subversion...i would never use it though |
| 16:08.24 | wps | putting the file into a database would be an absolutely ridiculous decision/option, in my opinion |
| 16:08.53 | bigdog_ut | unless you are loadbalancing the frontend apache server i would not see doingthat |
| 16:13.11 | bigdog_ut | from what i understand is that subversion uses a berkleydb |
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| 16:37.27 | bigdog_ut | tbye, sorry i forgot to email you last night i will get on that today for you |
| 16:37.46 | tbye | No worries... I got stuck watching survivor with the wife... |
| 16:38.01 | tbye | ... and apprentice... and alias from last night... grrr... |
| 16:38.16 | tbye | haven't even seen my world poker tour yet...hehe |
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| 16:48.00 | bigdog_ut | yeah i was watching some stuff then working till 2am |
| 16:48.10 | tbye | ughh |
| 16:48.42 | bigdog_ut | wps, i bid out for a website and this guy said he can get this guy cheaper to do his site |
| 16:48.55 | bigdog_ut | here is the website this guy supplied: http://birdfishtaxidermist.com/ |
| 16:49.06 | bigdog_ut | now the flash is what i really admire |
| 16:49.23 | tbye | lol |
| 16:49.44 | tbye | You get what you pay for. |
| 16:49.51 | bigdog_ut | no doubt |
| 16:50.03 | bigdog_ut | and he would charge like $700 for that |
| 16:50.09 | bigdog_ut | i was rlol |
| 16:50.42 | bigdog_ut | and i was going to integrate php gallery into his site...but if you can use flash that is better |
| 16:51.40 | bigdog_ut | and make it all look like crap |
| 16:53.26 | tbye | And never, ever, ever update it. |
| 16:53.32 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 16:53.44 | tbye | Those colors make me want to scratch out my eyes. |
| 16:54.03 | bigdog_ut | yeah...it like who puked on my screen |
| 16:54.22 | wps | site won't load |
| 16:55.04 | bigdog_ut | on your box |
| 16:55.13 | bigdog_ut | lol...i think it has ms stuff in it |
| 16:55.32 | bigdog_ut | wps, you would die if it did |
| 17:06.01 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, you around? |
| 17:09.49 | bigdog_ut | tbye, you use any dns service at all? |
| 17:09.54 | bigdog_ut | like dyndns? |
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| 17:51.57 | tbye | bigdog_ut: still around? |
| 17:52.01 | bigdog_ut | yes |
| 17:52.09 | tbye | I run my own Dns servers |
| 17:52.18 | bigdog_ut | oh |
| 17:59.18 | tbye | Are you needing dynamic dns? |
| 18:00.17 | bigdog_ut | i set it up with dyndns |
| 18:00.24 | tbye | cool |
| 18:00.31 | tbye | hosting behind dsl or something? |
| 18:04.18 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 18:04.21 | bigdog_ut | xmission |
| 18:04.33 | bigdog_ut | setting up vhosts now |
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| 19:42.26 | dataw0lf | sup bigdog_ut |
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| 20:00.04 | bigdog_ut | i had a question but i solved it |
| 20:00.13 | bigdog_ut | got my dsl webserver running |
| 20:00.24 | bigdog_ut | bigdog1.homelinux.com |
| 20:00.50 | bigdog_ut | now i just got to figure out vhosting behind a modem and a router |
| 20:06.23 | zardinuk | should be the same process |
| 20:15.03 | bigdog_ut | well my router sends the host request as zeus.www and not the bigdog1.homelinux.com |
| 20:16.57 | zardinuk | what do you mean by the host request? |
| 20:17.34 | zardinuk | my browser sends bigdog1.homelinux.com in the http header, thats what namevirtualhost's are based on |
| 20:17.58 | bigdog_ut | yes but i nat it all and my webserver then sees zeus.www instead |
| 20:18.11 | zardinuk | nat has nothing to do with it |
| 20:18.14 | zardinuk | try it |
| 20:18.19 | zardinuk | I do it at home |
| 20:18.37 | bigdog_ut | its not the nat it is what my router is doing for port forwarding |
| 20:18.54 | bigdog_ut | and i have been trying to get it all working all day that is the thing |
| 20:19.02 | zardinuk | I know, but name based virtual hosts are entirely http based, it has nothing to do with the tcpip layer |
| 20:19.46 | zardinuk | just do NameVirtualHost *:80, then <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName bigdog1.homelinux.com </VirtualHost> |
| 20:19.56 | bigdog_ut | yep that is what i have |
| 20:20.04 | zardinuk | and what do you get? |
| 20:20.10 | bigdog_ut | and i have bigdog2.homelinux.com pointing to another one |
| 20:20.22 | bigdog_ut | and they all resolve to bigdog1 |
| 20:20.24 | zardinuk | another directory? |
| 20:20.28 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 20:21.24 | zardinuk | well it has nothing to do with your NAT firewall, trust me, your http configuration must be jacked |
| 20:21.27 | zardinuk | heres what you should do |
| 20:21.35 | zardinuk | you using windows |
| 20:21.36 | zardinuk | ? |
| 20:21.41 | bigdog_ut | no way |
| 20:21.47 | zardinuk | for the client |
| 20:21.53 | bigdog_ut | no way |
| 20:22.14 | zardinuk | ok, add bigdog1.homelinux.com and bigdog2.homelinux.com to your hosts file |
| 20:22.29 | zardinuk | then see if name based virtual hosts are working |
| 20:22.40 | zardinuk | via a direct connection across the lan |
| 20:23.55 | bigdog_ut | those are set to the internal ip for the lan in the hosts file? |
| 20:24.43 | zardinuk | yup |
| 20:24.53 | zardinuk | set it to your webserver address |
| 20:25.01 | zardinuk | so there is no DNS request made |
| 20:25.08 | zardinuk | just direct connection across your lan |
| 20:25.39 | zardinuk | when you make the http request, the browser sends the hostname it is trying to access in with the http header, and thats what name based virtual hosts are looking at |
| 20:26.02 | zardinuk | the tcp headers is the only thing nat is manipulating |
| 20:29.05 | zardinuk | tcp headers dont actually have any hostname information at all in them, only ip address |
| 20:29.55 | bigdog_ut | damn zardinuk you caught it...i had a friend tell me to set it to the static ip when i set it up |
| 20:30.15 | bigdog_ut | so in the host file i had the bigdog*.*.com set to the static ip and not the internal one |
| 20:30.51 | zardinuk | ah, heh |
| 20:30.53 | bigdog_ut | zardinuk++ |
| 20:30.55 | zardinuk | different problem all together |
| 20:30.59 | zardinuk | lol |
| 20:31.06 | zardinuk | glad I could help though |
| 20:31.55 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
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| 20:32.36 | bigdog_ut | ~zardinuk++ |
| 20:32.43 | dataw0lf | damn, I missed it. |
| 20:33.02 | bigdog_ut | i blame dataw0lf for this all |
| 20:33.19 | dataw0lf | :( |
| 20:33.37 | dataw0lf | you should come to the meeting tonight, bigdog_ut |
| 20:33.45 | bigdog_ut | which meeting? |
| 20:34.03 | dataw0lf | 2600/DC meeting. |
| 20:34.08 | bigdog_ut | in slc |
| 20:34.22 | dataw0lf | yessir. |
| 20:34.32 | dataw0lf | it's not as organized as you guys' meetings. |
| 20:34.33 | bigdog_ut | i wish i had the time...i have work tonight |
| 20:34.35 | dataw0lf | but it's fun. |
| 20:34.39 | dataw0lf | damn. |
| 20:34.46 | bigdog_ut | yeah but 2600 is killer i love the mag |
| 20:35.13 | dataw0lf | the SLC 2600 tries to distance themselves from the magazine. |
| 20:35.18 | dataw0lf | because of Emmanuel's political agenda. |
| 20:35.30 | bigdog_ut | oh |
| 20:35.46 | dataw0lf | I haven't really read the magazine for years, to be honest. |
| 20:36.02 | bigdog_ut | i was reading on on war driving with pocket pcs |
| 20:36.30 | bigdog_ut | zardinuk, that cracks me up cause it would always resolve to that one host i had for the internal for the virtualhost |
| 20:38.22 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, i would love to if i did not have work tonight |
| 20:38.31 | dataw0lf | oh, it's cool. |
| 20:38.45 | dataw0lf | you could idle in #ut2600 on EFNet to meet some of the guys. |
| 20:39.15 | bigdog_ut | oh i will then |
| 20:39.36 | bigdog_ut | what time do you guys meet?, u got a website? |
| 20:39.52 | dataw0lf | heh, yeah but it's never updated. the times are correct though 2600slc.org |
| 20:40.56 | zardinuk | well to be honest I dont know why it still wouldn't work, if you had bigdog*.*.com |
| 20:41.03 | zardinuk | the browser is still sending its own http header |
| 20:41.43 | zardinuk | I was just trying to show you that it has nothing to do with nat |
| 20:41.51 | bigdog_ut | yeah it was weird...i had the static ip and then the bigdog1.hostlinux.com...bigdog5.hostlinux.com |
| 20:42.31 | bigdog_ut | yeah..i was actually meaning that i tought my routers was modifiyting the http headers |
| 20:44.00 | bigdog_ut | but apparently i fell out of my chair and kracked my head |
| 20:45.10 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, you guys meet in the mall? |
| 20:45.15 | dataw0lf | yar. |
| 20:45.47 | bigdog_ut | cool i guess |
| 20:46.03 | dataw0lf | told you it wasn't as professional nor organized as uphpu. |
| 20:46.28 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, i got the unix shell book for you man |
| 20:46.41 | dataw0lf | really?? |
| 20:46.51 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 20:47.00 | dataw0lf | sweet dude. |
| 20:47.03 | bigdog_ut | u got to come to the uphpu meeting this month |
| 20:47.27 | bigdog_ut | bbial |
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| 21:27.20 | fungus | I feel special now... I am connected via IPv6. |
| 21:27.45 | macnewbold | ooooh |
| 21:27.47 | macnewbold | aaaah |
| 21:27.54 | macnewbold | ~praise fungus |
| 21:27.56 | jbot | All hail fungus! |
| 21:28.02 | fungus | :) |
| 23:56.20 | macnewbold | so fungus, why are you using IPv6? i.e. what made you want to set it up? |
| 23:57.09 | fungus | Just for fun. I like feeling like a pioneer. |
| 23:58.02 | tierra|w | ibaku.net.AAAAIN2592002001:470:1f01:ffff:0:0:0:57 |
| 23:58.05 | tierra|w | =) |
| 23:59.00 | tierra|w | more accurately, 2001:470:1f01:ffff::57 |
| 23:59.00 | fungus | Also, I'll have to learn it someday, why not start now. |