| 00:09.22 | tierra|w | you can get to MySQL remotely... and I could do it right now... but it all depends on if mysqld isn't bound to only localhost |
| 00:09.47 | wps | I think it is :( |
| 00:10.07 | wps | which is bad for me now, but normally very, very good |
| 00:10.22 | wps | I think that I can get this dump through the web interface, so I might be alright |
| 00:10.29 | wps | if I can't then, perhaps I will ask you to try |
| 00:11.28 | tierra|w | you know of an installation of phpMyAdmin on there? |
| 00:11.43 | tierra|w | well, I'll let you try what you can first I guess |
| 00:12.39 | wps | no, phpMyAdmin isn't on there (as far as I know) |
| 00:15.07 | tierra|w | "phpMyAdmin tried to connect to the MySQL server, and the server rejected the connection." ... out of luck there |
| 00:16.14 | tierra|w | if you have a local user account (and they just changed root on you or whatever), then this could be really simple |
| 00:16.37 | wps | the just disabled my log in |
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| 00:17.10 | tierra|w | ouch... yeah, that's going to make things hard |
| 00:17.33 | tierra|w | so no real recent backups then? |
| 00:17.46 | wps | all backups were being made to the same server |
| 00:17.53 | tierra|w | ouch |
| 00:18.39 | tierra|w | hence why I like rsync... and having 2 servers with more than 1Gb free space each to back each other up |
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| 01:48.39 | wps | crap |
| 01:49.13 | wps | even though I can run exec() commands within PHP pages that I can create within the web admin portion of the site, it looks like apache does not have sufficient privileges to read the file |
| 01:55.58 | dataw0lf | who's the owner of the file? you? |
| 01:56.07 | wps | wait... I am wrong |
| 01:56.13 | wps | I just did... |
| 01:56.14 | wps | $output = `ls -all ../../backups/`; |
| 01:56.15 | wps | echo "<pre>$output</pre>"; |
| 01:56.19 | wps | and the file isn't even there! |
| 01:56.24 | wps | arrrrg |
| 01:57.15 | wps | because now that I think about it more, there shouldn't be an ownership issue because apache created the file |
| 01:57.37 | wps | well, kind of... hmm... maybe not. I am not sure how GL is doing the dump. |
| 02:02.07 | dataw0lf | eco|w entered? another corruptor for #uphpu. |
| 02:02.45 | tierra|w | he came to watch the religous conversation |
| 02:02.57 | tierra|w | which should be in #uphpu_other |
| 02:03.02 | eco|w | So I hear |
| 02:03.08 | tierra|w | nothing started yet though |
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| 02:17.25 | scottj | mindjuju, heard of Orson Spencer? |
| 02:17.33 | mindjuju | I haven't |
| 02:18.03 | scottj | ought to check his letters out. |
| 02:19.40 | scottj | he was a lawyer/baptist preacher that converted to the church, moved to nauvoo, became mayor, went on several missions, and chancellor of UoU. wrote some really sweet doctrinal letters to a reverand friend. |
| 02:20.16 | scottj | I'd never heard of him either, but found a book of these letters on accident and they're really spectacular. |
| 02:42.36 | wps | ooops |
| 02:42.43 | wps | uphpu.org is down |
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| 03:37.56 | wps | how do I start the mysql daemon? |
| 03:38.41 | tierra|w | what distro? |
| 03:38.50 | wps | FC3 |
| 03:40.14 | wps | service mysqld start |
| 03:40.16 | wps | didn't work |
| 03:40.48 | wps | I had used this... |
| 03:40.58 | wps | ...before on another system, but that path doesn't exist here |
| 03:41.05 | wps | ` /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld start |
| 03:44.00 | jsmith | wps: That should work. |
| 03:45.44 | dataw0lf | /etc/init.d/mysqld start <- try that. |
| 03:46.36 | wps | ` /etc/init.d/mysqld |
| 03:46.39 | wps | doesn't exist |
| 03:47.24 | dataw0lf | ok, locate mysqld |
| 03:48.10 | wps | ` /usr/bin/mysqldump |
| 03:48.25 | dataw0lf | does /etc/init.d/ exist ? |
| 03:48.45 | wps | no |
| 03:48.49 | wps | (sorry... I tried to paste all lines but the ones was the only that sent) |
| 03:48.51 | dataw0lf | do a locate init.d |
| 03:48.56 | jsmith | dataw0lf: This is FC3: /etc/rc.d/init.d |
| 03:49.20 | wps | it is in /etc/rc.d/ |
| 03:49.35 | dataw0lf | ls /etc/rc.d/init.d/ |
| 03:49.39 | dataw0lf | find the daemon |
| 03:49.56 | dataw0lf | then, /etc/rc.d/init.d/<daemon> start |
| 03:50.03 | dataw0lf | man, I hate FC3. |
| 03:50.12 | wps | thanks :) |
| 03:50.28 | dataw0lf | 8) |
| 03:50.43 | jsmith | dataw0lf: It appears he installed the client, but not the server |
| 03:51.25 | dataw0lf | what, with yum? booooooo. |
| 03:51.53 | wps | I actually used apt-get |
| 03:51.58 | wps | what's the difference between the two? |
| 03:52.08 | dataw0lf | just a front-end. |
| 03:52.43 | dataw0lf | apt-get is the native package installation manager thingie for Debian. |
| 03:52.55 | dataw0lf | doesn't really fix the main problem with FC3; ie, rpms. |
| 03:54.02 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Depends... Personally, I think packages are a *good* idea. |
| 03:54.20 | dataw0lf | jsmith: Sure. But not rpms. |
| 03:54.37 | dataw0lf | I'm a dpkg / deb guy, that's why I say these things. |
| 03:54.42 | jsmith | Figures. |
| 03:54.55 | dataw0lf | see, he already thought I was a commie, now I just confirmed it. |
| 03:55.04 | jsmith | Debs are OK -- I'm just more familiar with RPMs. |
| 03:55.30 | wps | I am trying to remember how to give a user sudo priveleges |
| 03:55.30 | jsmith | Naw, as long as you're not one of those "compile everything from source and hope you never have to uninstall" types. |
| 03:55.42 | wps | is it just as simple as adding them to the wheel group? |
| 03:55.47 | dataw0lf | opposite here. I played with RH for a while during 7.1 or something. |
| 03:56.00 | dataw0lf | jsmith: true that, I don't like the Gentoo fanboys either. |
| 03:56.28 | eco|w | I knew you hated me...I just knew it. |
| 03:56.45 | dataw0lf | you cheated on me, whaddya expect. |
| 03:57.07 | jsmith | dataw0lf: I've been using RH since the 4.2 days -- I tried Debian for a whole week once, just to try to get used it. The installer sucked. Apt-get was cool. Packages were way out of date. |
| 03:57.09 | eco|w | True...true. |
| 03:57.32 | dataw0lf | jsmith: I used Slackware way back in the day for about a year, then I switched to Debian. |
| 03:57.46 | jsmith | dataw0lf: What a slacker. |
| 03:57.47 | dataw0lf | jsmith: been with it since, though I've basically installed every thing else on whatever box is handy at the moment. |
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| 04:34.34 | wps | I have something set up wrong with my virtual hosts in my httpd.conf |
| 04:34.44 | wps | it is only showing the first ("default") for all virtuals |
| 04:34.55 | wps | is this not correct? |
| 04:34.55 | wps | <VirtualHost *:80> |
| 04:35.04 | wps | (that is what I have for each) |
| 04:35.43 | jsmith | Yes, but you have to make sure each one has a ServerName |
| 04:35.51 | wps | each does |
| 04:35.53 | tierra|w | make sure you have NamedVirtualHost *:80 before that as well |
| 04:36.21 | wps | where does that go, tierra|w? |
| 04:36.29 | wps | within each <VirtualHost> ? |
| 04:36.37 | jsmith | wps: No, earlier in httpd.conf |
| 04:36.37 | wps | or just once at the top? |
| 04:36.42 | jsmith | yes, once at the top |
| 04:36.46 | tierra|w | before all your <VirtualHost> in the front of the vhosts file is best |
| 04:37.54 | wps | ah-hah |
| 04:37.56 | wps | it was commented out |
| 04:38.04 | tierra|w | heh |
| 04:38.19 | wps | perfect |
| 04:38.22 | wps | all's working |
| 04:38.23 | wps | thanks |
| 04:38.26 | tierra|w | np |
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| 05:37.37 | jsmith | wps: Looks like you're missing the php-mysql package. |
| 05:38.18 | wps | oh, you looking at the site? |
| 05:38.42 | jsmith | Yeah, I just did. |
| 05:38.52 | wps | k... installed |
| 05:38.58 | wps | do I need to restart apache? |
| 05:39.20 | jsmith | Yup |
| 05:39.41 | wps | hmm... still nothing |
| 05:39.58 | jsmith | :-( |
| 05:40.02 | jsmith | Hmmmn... that's strange. |
| 05:40.42 | wps | I added the database... created a mysql user... gave them permissions and a pass... |
| 05:40.47 | wps | flushed priveleges |
| 05:41.04 | jsmith | Let me log back in. |
| 05:42.09 | jsmith | wps: php-mysql is not installed. |
| 05:42.14 | jsmith | wps: I'll install it. |
| 05:42.20 | wps | really? |
| 05:42.22 | wps | I ran yum |
| 05:42.51 | wps | oh... oops... hadn't noticed that it errored |
| 05:43.21 | wps | looks like the key for the rpm wasn't valid |
| 05:43.34 | jsmith | That would do it... |
| 05:43.37 | jsmith | I'm installing it now. |
| 05:43.42 | wps | alright |
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| 05:50.52 | jsmith | Wierd -- still working on it. |
| 05:53.32 | jsmith | Something's funky with PHP. |
| 05:55.26 | jsmith | Hold on! |
| 05:55.33 | jsmith | Where'd you get this install of PHP from? |
| 05:56.31 | wps | php.net |
| 05:56.32 | wps | :) |
| 05:57.03 | jsmith | You didn't compile these, did you? |
| 05:57.10 | jsmith | Because there's no built-in MySQL support. |
| 05:57.17 | wps | I did |
| 05:57.21 | wps | oh crap |
| 05:57.24 | wps | you're kidding |
| 05:57.24 | jsmith | Where's the source? |
| 05:57.59 | wps | in my home dir |
| 05:59.07 | jsmith | Aha... found it. |
| 05:59.11 | jsmith | Mind if I rebuild it? |
| 05:59.26 | wps | no, go ahead |
| 05:59.35 | wps | there are scripts in there that I used |
| 06:00.04 | wps | I compiled php into apache, so that it would be faster |
| 06:00.30 | wps | the scripts have all of the options that I used |
| 06:02.17 | jsmith | OK, I'm rebuilding PHP. |
| 06:02.27 | wps | k |
| 06:02.41 | jsmith | Personally, I always just rebuild PHP as an Apache module. |
| 06:02.55 | jsmith | Either way though... PHP was compiled without support for MySQL |
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| 06:03.00 | wps | yeah |
| 06:07.08 | jsmith | Ok, recompiling PHP again. |
| 06:13.25 | jsmith | Dang! |
| 06:13.29 | jsmith | Why can't I get this right? |
| 06:14.28 | wps | getting errors? |
| 06:16.28 | jsmith | No, and MySQL should be in there, but it's not. |
| 06:16.36 | jsmith | I guess I'll try staticly compiling MySQL in. |
| 06:18.06 | wps | what does that mean? inserting it without recompiling the entire thing? |
| 06:19.43 | wps | I wasn't aware that you could do that |
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| 06:29.42 | jsmith | wps: OK, I'm missing something really stupid here. |
| 06:30.19 | wps | what's happening? (or not happening?) |
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| 06:36.46 | jsmith | wps: Sorry, trying one more time to get PHP to compile with MySQL support. |
| 06:36.56 | wps | k |
| 06:39.54 | optikal | sup ppls |
| 06:40.01 | wps | hey |
| 06:40.08 | jsmith | wps: Woo hoo! |
| 06:40.12 | wps | got it? |
| 06:40.15 | jsmith | wps: Yup. |
| 06:40.18 | wps | what was the problem? |
| 06:40.20 | optikal | what distro? |
| 06:40.29 | wps | FC3 |
| 06:40.33 | optikal | ehk |
| 06:40.34 | optikal | hehe |
| 06:40.37 | jsmith | wps: Apache wasn't rebuilding the php5 module, even though it said it was. |
| 06:40.47 | wps | weird... why's that? |
| 06:40.49 | jsmith | wps: So I showed it who was boss. |
| 06:40.52 | jsmith | wps: Don't know... |
| 06:40.55 | wps | good for you |
| 06:41.07 | optikal | i do NOT like Red Hat.. yehk |
| 06:41.10 | jsmith | Now you've got more errors to deal with. |
| 06:41.16 | optikal | gentoo, debian, ubuntu.. |
| 06:41.17 | jsmith | optikal: This has nothing to do with Red Hat. |
| 06:41.23 | jsmith | optikal: He's compiling from source. |
| 06:41.27 | optikal | jsmith: i understand what FC3 is |
| 06:41.49 | jsmith | optikal: No, I'm saying "The problems he's having tonight aren't caused by FC3 or Red Hat" |
| 06:41.51 | optikal | i guess you could say i dont have a taste for fc3/rh |
| 06:42.00 | jsmith | That's fine, but that's not the problem here. |
| 06:42.26 | optikal | jsmith: yeah.. i understand that.. i never said that.. im just chattin man.. no need to get worked up.. we often share opinions in here. =) nothing to get upset about |
| 06:43.23 | wps | jsmith: what does uphpu.org ping for you? |
| 06:43.33 | wps | errr... what does a ping for uphpu.org return for you |
| 06:43.47 | optikal | hehe |
| 06:44.02 | optikal | wps: so.. how did your adventure earlier turn out? |
| 06:44.05 | jsmith | [jsmith@old ~]$ php www.uphpu.org |
| 06:44.05 | jsmith | Status: 404 |
| 06:44.05 | jsmith | Content-type: text/html |
| 06:44.05 | jsmith | X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10 |
| 06:44.05 | jsmith | No input file specified. |
| 06:44.06 | jsmith | [jsmith@old ~]$ |
| 06:44.33 | jsmith | [jsmith@old ~]$ ping www.uphpu.org |
| 06:44.34 | jsmith | PING www.uphpu.org (12.174.39.4) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 06:44.34 | jsmith | 64 bytes from 12.174.39.4: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=36.3 ms |
| 06:44.34 | jsmith | 64 bytes from 12.174.39.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=35.7 ms |
| 06:44.52 | jsmith | Hey, you've got Geeklog up. |
| 06:44.52 | wps | k... looks like your getting the new server |
| 06:44.56 | wps | it should be up now |
| 06:45.05 | wps | new look and feel |
| 06:45.14 | wps | no I just need to import the MySQL dump |
| 06:45.23 | wps | un momento, and I'll have everyone's accounts back |
| 06:46.08 | wps | optikal: you're in Utah |
| 06:46.35 | optikal | heh |
| 06:53.48 | wps | thansk, jsmith |
| 06:54.34 | jsmith | No problem |
| 06:54.36 | jsmith | Glad I can help out. |
| 07:17.51 | wps | my MySQL dump is not importing |
| 07:18.08 | wps | ERROR 1064 at line 20: You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1' at line 5 |
| 07:18.23 | wps | how I go about debugging that? |
| 07:30.29 | optikal | hmmm |
| 07:30.52 | wps | it looks like there are difference in the dumps between 4.0 and 4.1 |
| 07:31.03 | wps | I am manually editing some lines to see if it will work |
| 07:31.11 | optikal | do you have the db setup properly? all the tables the same type,? or does your dump create the tables too? |
| 07:31.22 | wps | dump creates them |
| 07:31.44 | optikal | is that what is happening when it gets that error? |
| 07:32.04 | wps | http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?20,10322,10322 |
| 07:40.43 | wps | wow, that worked |
| 08:20.14 | xilch | optikal: you still up? |
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| 15:42.07 | mindjuju | Hi macnewbold, do you know if optikal was ever able to get that email problem worked out? |
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| 16:03.13 | mindjuju | optikal, did you figure out the email problem? |
| 16:03.31 | mindjuju | sorry I didn't come back til 6:30 last night, had to run some unexpected errands |
| 16:03.42 | optikal | mindjuju: i have the errors still, but its emailing fine and moving to the new table.. but it does still give the errors.. so ive moved past it for now real fast to wrap something up, and then i plan to go back to it |
| 16:03.53 | optikal | aah.. dude, you dont need to apologize.. lol |
| 16:04.09 | optikal | mindjujus personal life > optikals php problems |
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| 16:04.57 | mindjuju | well, just felt bad cause I said i'd be back in 20 minutes and didn't. i'm glad you've got it functional and will return when more time |
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| 16:05.37 | optikal | yeh |
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| 17:08.59 | optikal | hehe |
| 17:09.00 | optikal | http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/09/low.pants.ap/index.html |
| 17:11.51 | optikal | http://science.slashdot.org/science/05/02/09/1519252.shtml?tid=160 |
| 17:12.42 | synic | whoa, a hurling star doesn't sound very safe :P |
| 17:13.24 | synic | screw getting hit by a meteor. Here comes the sun! |
| 17:13.43 | synic | </beatles> |
| 17:15.22 | optikal | hehe |
| 17:15.25 | optikal | nice =) |
| 17:15.28 | optikal | u creative fella |
| 17:17.27 | wps | ick |
| 17:17.44 | synic | lol, yeah. |
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| 17:43.04 | mindjuju | anybody know what the commands are called for using JS to increase the brightness of an image or to change the hue |
| 17:43.21 | mindjuju | seems like i saw script to that effect once, though can't seem to write anything nor find the script now |
| 17:43.29 | optikal | hmm |
| 17:43.34 | optikal | JS can interact directly with an image? wow |
| 17:44.00 | optikal | i would have assumed it interacted with an outside graphic library or something like that |
| 17:44.07 | mindjuju | yeah, the affect i saw was that they had a button that was red, where the button (image) was brightened to show mouseover affect |
| 17:44.27 | mindjuju | well, i think it was leaning more towards CSS |
| 17:44.33 | mindjuju | it was a dynamic affect in a web page |
| 17:44.40 | optikal | well |
| 17:44.49 | mindjuju | maybe i'll research CSS side, maybe that's where it was |
| 17:44.57 | optikal | i know of no way in CSS to change the natural brightness/contract within an image |
| 17:45.04 | optikal | I know CSS pretty well.. |
| 17:45.16 | synic | you sure the button was an image? possibly it was just some fancy css |
| 17:45.24 | optikal | yeah thats what iw as just thinking |
| 17:45.36 | optikal | you can do full 3d (4color) borders with css |
| 17:45.54 | mindjuju | that could be it |
| 17:46.00 | optikal | like... border-right:2px solid #c0c0c0;border-top:2px solid #e1e1e1; |
| 17:46.01 | optikal | etc. |
| 17:46.28 | optikal | http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_border.asp |
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| 18:30.09 | optikal | http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=149534&nid=5 |
| 18:30.32 | optikal | xilch: what did u need last night foo? =P u msg'd me as i was walking to bed, and i was too lazy to type 'nope, going 2 bed now'. |
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| 19:25.05 | optikal | hahaha |
| 19:25.17 | optikal | mindjuju, macnewbold, wps: guess what my problem was.. LOL |
| 19:25.27 | wps | what's that? |
| 19:25.30 | optikal | if ($_GET['approve'] = 'yes') { // If approve=yes... notice anything? |
| 19:25.35 | optikal | missing a = LOL |
| 19:25.52 | mindjuju | right, it was setting it to yes |
| 19:25.54 | mindjuju | not checking for yes |
| 19:25.59 | mindjuju | man, i missed that! |
| 19:26.02 | wps | DOH! |
| 19:26.12 | optikal | haha |
| 19:26.19 | tierra|w | optikal, did you see my finished loging script work on blogjihad.org? |
| 19:26.25 | tierra|w | *loin |
| 19:26.27 | tierra|w | *login |
| 19:26.44 | optikal | nope |
| 19:26.49 | tierra|w | well... close to finished... it's not completely done, but it's usable now |
| 19:26.58 | tierra|w | user: tierra pass: testpass |
| 19:27.19 | optikal | 1sec |
| 19:39.53 | optikal | finish this up |
| 19:40.22 | optikal | *finishing |
| 19:50.56 | tierra|w | I should have ip lockouts and email confirmation before I'm finished |
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| 20:03.11 | dataw0lf | get to work xilch |
| 20:04.44 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: do you have varying levels of permissions / access set up ? |
| 20:04.57 | tierra|w | I do =) |
| 20:05.09 | dataw0lf | how do you have it setup? is it in a class ? |
| 20:05.29 | dataw0lf | bah, I'll just download the source. |
| 20:07.03 | tierra|w | well, you include the login code, it handles all the login, and has 3 main global variables you can use in the rest of your code $el_vars['username'] (will be blank if guest), $el_vars['accttype'] (the account type/level), and another I can't remember right now |
| 20:07.59 | dataw0lf | aight, I downloaded it. |
| 20:08.10 | dataw0lf | I'm getting this queue stuff ready. |
| 20:08.30 | tierra|w | so when it comes to our actual targets and junk, if your setting up a suggestion box or something, and you only want admins to be able to suggest, in both the POST handler and in the actual form output, you'd do a check to see if $el_vars['accttype'] == 'a' for example |
| 20:08.51 | dataw0lf | right. |
| 20:09.06 | dataw0lf | $el_vars... an array inside $_SESSION ? |
| 20:09.27 | tierra|w | na... I've never used PHP sessions... never liked them... |
| 20:10.17 | tierra|w | the login script handles the session with cookies |
| 20:10.40 | tierra|w | (which I believe is what $_SESSION does anyway isn't it? |
| 20:11.42 | tierra|w | most of what you need to know is in config.php (I reset the variables and explain them there |
| 20:11.47 | tierra|w | ) |
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| 20:12.18 | dataw0lf | with cookies... so it's on the user end? |
| 20:12.28 | dataw0lf | so basically I could alter my accttype to a if I wanted to. |
| 20:14.15 | tierra|w | hahaha... no |
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| 20:14.20 | tierra|w | the only thing stored in the cookies is a username, and a non-informative hash I check against on the server side to ensure it's who they say they are |
| 20:15.07 | tierra|w | the login script tracks the user's session, and passes your scripts their user information at the same time |
| 20:15.07 | dataw0lf | bah, I hate cookies. |
| 20:15.16 | tierra|w | you don't have to touch the cookies |
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| 20:15.29 | tierra|w | the login script handles all that on it's own |
| 20:15.31 | dataw0lf | I don't want to touch the cookies, I just hate them. |
| 20:15.41 | dataw0lf | I don't see any reason to handle anything on the client side. |
| 20:16.30 | tierra|w | It's the only way to track a users login securely that I know of |
| 20:16.55 | dataw0lf | why not just use sessions? |
| 20:17.27 | tierra|w | because they suck, and sessions can be hijacked a lot easier than this method |
| 20:18.59 | tierra|w | sessions actually do use cookies in their backend... when you say "use sessions", you basically said "use cookies" which I did do, except it's my code that's handling them, and I know what's going on with them |
| 20:19.15 | dataw0lf | not necessarily. |
| 20:19.21 | dataw0lf | and the session id can be encrypted. |
| 20:20.30 | tierra|w | sessions are only good for a non-login type tracking... if you're doing access that's dependant on user levels, etc... then it's no good |
| 20:20.33 | dataw0lf | look at the session.* config parameters. |
| 20:22.37 | dataw0lf | let me clarify: I'm not against using cookies, I'm for using sessions. |
| 20:23.03 | tierra|w | basically put, if I were to use sessions, I would be storing exactly the same thing I already do store in the cookies... |
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| 20:26.09 | tierra|w | what do you gain from using sessions that I'm missing in my login code right there? it's not security... it's not functionality... I've got all of the above already in the code without touching sessions... it would be like adding one more layer of a mass used library that would make my login stuff vunerable for every php session vunerability found |
| 20:27.10 | optikal | javascript:Qr=document.getSelection();if(!Qr){void(Qr=prompt('Search Google for MP3s',''))};if(Qr)location.href='http://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%3Fintitle%3Aindex.of%3F%20mp3%20'+escape(Qr) |
| 20:27.17 | optikal | Add that to your FireFox bookmarks (even better, toolbar) |
| 20:27.18 | optikal | and click it |
| 20:27.31 | optikal | helps u get mp3z from google the smart way that most of us probably already do, but just makes it easier for ya |
| 20:27.37 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: ok, I'm looking at the code right now, I apologize profusely. |
| 20:27.40 | dataw0lf | but you're still gay. |
| 20:28.08 | tierra|w | alright, I can live with that... I've always been gay |
| 20:28.12 | tierra|w | ) |
| 20:28.15 | optikal | haha |
| 20:28.15 | tierra|w | =) |
| 20:28.54 | dataw0lf | http://spongebob.rh.rit.edu:8081/website/music/ |
| 20:29.02 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: sorry, I thought you were doing it a different way. |
| 20:29.20 | dataw0lf | and, excuse me, my brain is a bit fried. Y'know, I got _laid_ last night. |
| 20:29.23 | dataw0lf | what'd you do? |
| 20:29.33 | tierra|w | ah, alright... I was confused as to what you thought was wrong with my code... |
| 20:29.54 | tierra|w | since I actually did some work last night |
| 20:30.06 | optikal | dataw0lf: me 2 ^5 |
| 20:30.16 | dataw0lf | ^5 |
| 20:30.18 | tierra|w | you bastards |
| 20:30.29 | dataw0lf | while he was coding, we were making sweet sweet love. |
| 20:30.33 | dataw0lf | with each other! |
| 20:30.37 | tierra|w | haha |
| 20:30.38 | optikal | past 5 nights in a row |
| 20:30.40 | optikal | oh yez |
| 20:30.50 | dataw0lf | hm. |
| 20:30.59 | dataw0lf | I can't remember a day that I haven't gotten laid. |
| 20:31.04 | dataw0lf | oh, I guess when I was over at your place Friday. |
| 20:31.17 | tierra|w | hence you got laid... |
| 20:31.42 | dataw0lf | you weren't complaining. |
| 20:31.58 | optikal | haha |
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| 20:32.19 | optikal | i dont get laid 5-7 nights out of the week =P |
| 20:32.35 | tierra|w | you know what sucks about that google trick? the people that put up their entire collection, but limit the bandwidth to virtually nothing |
| 20:32.44 | optikal | yah |
| 20:33.02 | optikal | last night was pretty fun |
| 20:33.07 | optikal | sat and watched music vids most of the night |
| 20:33.09 | optikal | havent done that in so long |
| 20:33.13 | dataw0lf | yeah, those bastards, how dare they keep me from wasting their bandwidth. |
| 20:33.40 | dataw0lf | I showed Roxie how to use vim last night. |
| 20:33.54 | tierra|w | well, if your going to put it up, only do it if you have the bandwidth to spare |
| 20:34.09 | tierra|w | it pollutes the google mp3 pool |
| 20:34.20 | tierra|w | you geek |
| 20:34.49 | dataw0lf | ? |
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| 20:51.01 | optikal | im not quite accepting them.. kinda disappointing. |
| 20:53.18 | optikal | what a waste of $1.29 |
| 20:54.14 | optikal | tierra|w: whats the address/login infoz for ur script? im available now =P |
| 20:54.29 | optikal | and i closed out x-chat when i was having dsl issues so i didnt disconnect/connect flood all the channels im in |
| 20:55.18 | optikal | mmz.. best doritos.. "Salsa" |
| 20:55.23 | optikal | Black Pepperjack r good to |
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| 21:00.24 | tierra|w | optikal, there's nothing big about it other than that it does encryption on your password, and tracks your login with cookies... but blogjihad.org user:tierra pass: testpass |
| 21:00.29 | optikal | oof. those inputs need some css love! =P |
| 21:00.41 | optikal | coolness |
| 21:01.47 | tierra|w | yeah, they're pretty stripped down since I was coding it up to be portable, and left the skinning or some of the stuff the script was required to output in a separate file |
| 21:02.02 | optikal | portable? as in wap? |
| 21:02.10 | optikal | or u mean the login script? |
| 21:02.11 | tierra|w | I only have the required code in the function right now... no style of anything |
| 21:02.28 | tierra|w | the script |
| 21:02.28 | optikal | dataw0lf: hehe.. ur lil avatar d00d reminds me of the cartoon guy in Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood video that i watched last night |
| 21:02.36 | optikal | tierra|w: aah ok |
| 21:02.43 | tierra|w | so I could use it on 2 other sites I was planning on using it on as well |
| 21:02.50 | optikal | good thinkins |
| 21:03.01 | optikal | for maximum portability |
| 21:03.07 | optikal | just specify a generic class on them |
| 21:03.13 | optikal | and import a css file for the field itself |
| 21:03.19 | optikal | just an idear. |
| 21:03.42 | optikal | but yeh, lookn good. |
| 21:03.54 | tierra|w | na, it's just a function that outputs the login form, and you have to go in and edit the function which is located in the skin.php file |
| 21:04.44 | optikal | aaah |
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| 21:10.32 | alphahawk | Hello. Is there a function in php that can create a random string? |
| 21:11.44 | synic | substr( md5( time() ), 0, 7 ); |
| 21:12.21 | tierra|w | hehe... not bad |
| 21:15.39 | alphahawk | thanks synic |
| 21:18.27 | optikal | tierra|w: yah, my thoughts too heh |
| 21:19.20 | dataw0lf | ? |
| 21:22.35 | dataw0lf | did synic speak? |
| 21:22.44 | dataw0lf | weeeird, I have synic on ignore. |
| 21:23.04 | dataw0lf | I feel oddly peaceful, though. |
| 21:23.17 | tierra|w | haha |
| 21:24.07 | dataw0lf | That's really weird, I don't put anyone ignore, let alone synic. |
| 21:42.01 | optikal | hehe |
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| 22:09.23 | drewbono | Can anyone recommend some good BB/forum software? |
| 22:09.49 | drewbono | Ideally, I'd like something that has the option to automatically email people with every new post. |
| 22:12.31 | mindjuju | good question. i'm actually getting ready to write a blog script for a site i building but wondered if a php forum would be better. somebody was telling methe other day that if I write blog script, because of exploits, does anybody have experience in this area? |
| 22:15.08 | tierra|w | there's actually sites out there that are 100% powered by forums... phpBB, vBulletin (which sucks in my opinion, and isn't free btw) |
| 22:15.52 | mindjuju | so'd i'd probably be better writing a blog but sanatizing everything? |
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| 22:16.52 | mindjuju | it doesn't seem like it can be *that* hard... a rich text editor creates the HTML and dump that into a mysql table then when page is rendered, dumping everything onto a page in sequence |
| 22:17.19 | mindjuju | course though things are rarely as easy as they seem, wondering what I am missing? |
| 22:18.28 | tierra|w | well, if your going to go about it that way, you might as well just edit the page by hand... it really depends on if you want automatic generation of stuff like timestamps, automatic archiving, commenting, etc, etc.. |
| 22:19.14 | mindjuju | well, the blog wouldn't be for me though but clients of the site |
| 22:19.25 | mindjuju | but the blog isn't the key feature, it's just gray for the site |
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| 22:40.35 | dataw0lf | vBulletin rocks, tierra. |
| 22:40.54 | optikal | vbulletin costs the monies tho |
| 22:41.12 | optikal | i cant say that vBulletin rocks or sucks |
| 22:41.15 | optikal | SMF > phpBB to me tho |
| 22:41.47 | synic | jive's forum is pretty sweet: http://www.jivesoftware.org/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=39 |
| 22:41.56 | synic | it's written in .... dun dun dun |
| 22:41.58 | synic | JAVA though. |
| 22:42.18 | mindjuju | you know what we should do, we should have a part of uPHPu.org setup to host handwritten scripts |
| 22:42.18 | mindjuju | like file uploaders, etc |
| 22:42.18 | mindjuju | like a code library |
| 22:42.22 | drewbono | Java? |
| 22:42.22 | mindjuju | just an idea |
| 22:42.46 | optikal | mindjuju: nod a bad idea |
| 22:42.56 | optikal | script vault for uPHPu pplz |
| 22:43.08 | optikal | synic: that looks like crap |
| 22:43.12 | mindjuju | yeah, like if i do write that blog script, then i'll upload it. if somebody has the time to add some functions to it cool, re upload |
| 22:43.15 | synic | you look like crap. |
| 22:43.26 | dataw0lf | oo. |
| 22:43.30 | mindjuju | that way we have some open source php stuff of our own |
| 22:45.16 | drewbono | So is there no forum that is "integrated" with an email list? |
| 22:45.29 | dataw0lf | vBulletin can be. |
| 22:45.37 | scottj | "blog script"? |
| 22:45.46 | dataw0lf | in fact, we have that setup on ubuntuforums.org, drewbono. |
| 22:45.51 | mindjuju | yeah, i need to write a blog program |
| 22:45.59 | drewbono | dataw0lf: Really? |
| 22:45.59 | mindjuju | with rte, everything |
| 22:46.07 | scottj | rte? |
| 22:46.12 | drewbono | dataw0lf: with vBulletin? |
| 22:46.12 | mindjuju | rich text editor |
| 22:46.16 | dataw0lf | drewbono: yessir. |
| 22:46.21 | mindjuju | it's either blog or a bb |
| 22:46.23 | dataw0lf | drewbono: vBulletin costs moolah though. |
| 22:46.30 | drewbono | Yeah...big downside. |
| 22:46.31 | drewbono | :-( |
| 22:46.33 | drewbono | How much $? |
| 22:46.35 | mindjuju | i thought blog was trend - hip so thought going that way |
| 22:47.31 | dataw0lf | drewbono: depends on if you Lease it or actually Buy it. |
| 22:47.35 | drewbono | Yeah... |
| 22:47.38 | drewbono | reading now. |
| 22:47.47 | drewbono | $85/yr or $160 for life |
| 22:48.14 | drewbono | dataw0lf: Can you tell me how it's integrated? |
| 22:48.23 | drewbono | I've never heard of a BB and email having that capability. |
| 22:49.12 | dataw0lf | drewbono: psh, phpbb has it too. |
| 22:49.29 | scottj | mindjuju, do you mean a text field where you can click bold, italics, etc buttons and have it put the markup in there for you? |
| 22:49.30 | drewbono | You're referring to PM functionality. |
| 22:49.34 | drewbono | right? |
| 22:49.45 | dataw0lf | drewbono: oh, no, I'm talking about mailing list capability. |
| 22:50.38 | drewbono | dataw0lf: What I want is for when people post that it automatically emails it to everyone, and if they reply to the email, it gets posted to the forum. |
| 22:50.56 | dataw0lf | drewbono: check out mail2forum.com |
| 22:51.24 | dataw0lf | I don't know about automatically emailing posts to people, but I don't see how hard that would be. |
| 22:51.42 | dataw0lf | I know we have that on vBulletin. |
| 22:52.36 | optikal | drewbono: i would think that wouldnt be too difficult to customize a script to do that. |
| 22:52.54 | drewbono | optikal: You're probably right... |
| 22:53.10 | optikal | but why reinvent the wheeel if you dont have to. |
| 22:53.18 | drewbono | exactly :-) |
| 22:53.21 | optikal | but chances are, that 'wheel' hasnt been invented. |
| 22:53.31 | dataw0lf | 7,766 members at ubuntuforums.org... the forums started three months ago. |
| 22:53.46 | dataw0lf | optikal: it has, with vBulletin anyway. |
| 22:53.56 | dataw0lf | optikal: honestly, go to our mailing list section on the forums. |
| 22:53.59 | optikal | dataw0lf: aah. thats cause vBulletin is gay then. |
| 22:54.02 | optikal | jk =P |
| 22:54.07 | optikal | I didnt have anything bad to say about it, so i made something up. =/ |
| 22:54.19 | dataw0lf | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=6 |
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| 23:49.36 | synic | http://aidan.dotgeek.org/lib/?file=function.str_rand.php - better random string generator |
| 23:50.15 | mindjuju | i love aidan's stuff, it's really well written |
| 23:50.33 | mindjuju | i've built an engine based on his recursive copy folder |
| 23:54.40 | tierra|w | how long ago did he write that recursive copy folder? there's a built in function in PHP that does it now... I don't know when it was put in |
| 23:55.20 | mindjuju | you know, i'm not sure. I put my script in place like a week and a half ago |
| 23:55.25 | tierra|w | err... recursive folder something... now I'm not so sure it was copy... may of been delete |
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