| 00:00.06 | macnewbold | mindjuju: I thought gd had an info option that had that kind of stuff in it |
| 00:00.18 | macnewbold | if not, ImageMagick can tell you all that, with 'identify' |
| 00:03.54 | mindjuju | i was just starting to check into image magic |
| 00:04.05 | mindjuju | thnx for the advice |
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| 00:12.47 | wps | ~uphpu archives |
| 00:12.48 | jbot | somebody said uphpu archives was http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/, or http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/ |
| 00:14.12 | wps | ~byumug archives |
| 00:14.13 | jbot | byumug archives is probably http://ibot.rikers.org/%23byumug/ |
| 00:22.01 | wps | anyone remember the URL of that google parody site that mindjuju shared this morning? |
| 00:22.10 | wps | something similar to shizoogle.com |
| 00:26.22 | wps | I found it |
| 00:26.26 | wps | it's gizoogle.com |
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| 03:32.17 | wps | alright |
| 03:32.35 | wps | what is the difference between a switch, a hub, and a router? |
| 03:32.57 | wps | is a switch just a ethernet divider? meaning that it takes one line and divides it into many? |
| 03:33.01 | jsmith | wps: A switch is dumb |
| 03:33.07 | jsmith | It passes all traffic to all connected hosts. |
| 03:33.12 | wps | and a hub/router does DHCP and stuff? |
| 03:33.15 | jsmith | A switch is a tad bit smarter. |
| 03:33.39 | jsmith | A switch only passes the traffic to the correct port (this is an over-simplification, but enough for now) |
| 03:33.48 | macnewbold | a hub copies all the traffic to every port |
| 03:33.50 | jsmith | A router is like a traffic cop. |
| 03:34.08 | jsmith | It passes traffic between two different networks. |
| 03:34.18 | jsmith | And usually only allows certain traffic. |
| 03:34.29 | wps | okay, so in order from dumb to smart, it is: hub, switch, router? |
| 03:34.33 | macnewbold | so a 100Mbps hub can handle 100Mbps _total_ traffic, but a switch can handle up to 100Mbps on each link. They both work on the _same_ network. |
| 03:34.38 | macnewbold | wps: yep |
| 03:35.02 | wps | so for a network, a hub is not sufficient? |
| 03:35.32 | jsmith | wps: You are catching on quickly. |
| 03:35.32 | wps | so when would you use a hub? |
| 03:35.49 | jsmith | Personally, I only use a hub when I'm trying to sniff traffic from another server. |
| 03:36.27 | macnewbold | a hub and a switch are interchangeable, wps, but a hub has much lower performance, and lower security |
| 03:36.27 | wps | (by-the-way, I understood what a router is, as have one... I was just confused on the difference between hubs and switches) |
| 03:36.56 | jsmith | Now to get really technical, you can overload a switch and it'll act like a hub. |
| 03:36.59 | macnewbold | many people incorrectly use the terms interchangably, even when the device they're talking about is one or the other. |
| 03:37.02 | jsmith | But for the most part, you'll want a switch. |
| 03:37.04 | macnewbold | yes |
| 03:37.07 | macnewbold | and yes |
| 03:37.19 | wps | k, so in order to be able to access the ILO on my server, will I need a hub or a switch? |
| 03:37.49 | wps | I need one between my line in at the data center and the server... so that I can have two ethernet cables going into my box... so that I can access the ILO on a port |
| 03:37.54 | macnewbold | (a switch has to keep track of who is where, so it knows which port is the "right" port to send the traffic to... but it can only remember a limited number of things at once, so if you tell it too many things, it has to act like a hub in order to keep the network running.) |
| 03:37.58 | jsmith | Either one. But you need Erich to give you an on-net IP address that routes to it. |
| 03:38.22 | jsmith | Or, if he's only giving you 1 on-net IP, you need a router. |
| 03:38.41 | wps | what do you mean by "on-net"? public? |
| 03:38.54 | jsmith | Yes. |
| 03:39.01 | wps | k, he gave me a range of 10 IPs |
| 03:39.03 | jsmith | An IP that doesn't start with 10. or 192.168. |
| 03:39.10 | wps | yes, they are all public |
| 03:39.15 | jsmith | Perfect. |
| 03:39.23 | jsmith | Then either a hub or a switch will work for you. |
| 03:39.27 | wps | but with a switch, I wouldn't have to waste an entire IP just on ILO, right? |
| 03:39.43 | jsmith | Unless you have a router, you'll be wasting an IP. |
| 03:39.52 | jsmith | But if you've got 10, what's one for ILO? |
| 03:40.01 | wps | k... bingo... now that makes sense |
| 03:40.06 | wps | that's what I was thinking |
| 03:40.17 | wps | ...that in order to assign it a port, I would need a unit as smart as a router |
| 03:40.51 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 03:40.53 | jsmith | Exactly. |
| 03:41.05 | wps | so, if I am going to use one of the IPs for ILO, why would I need a switch? should they just be able to run another cable into the box, just as if it was another server? |
| 03:41.20 | wps | shouldn't |
| 03:44.01 | wps | did that question make sense? |
| 03:46.02 | jsmith | Yes. |
| 03:46.11 | jsmith | You only need a switch if they don't want to run another cable. |
| 03:46.19 | jsmith | Knowing Erich, he'll run another cable for you. |
| 03:46.53 | wps | hmm... I'll ask. I was just thinking that that would save me from purchasing a switch |
| 03:47.03 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 03:47.13 | jsmith | Don't buy a switch -- I'll donate one if you need one. |
| 03:47.30 | wps | oh? you have one you don't need? |
| 03:48.04 | jsmith | Well, let's just say I'd be willing to donate it to a good cause. |
| 03:48.09 | jsmith | I don't use it very often. |
| 03:48.33 | wps | you're awesome |
| 03:48.42 | wps | k, I'll ask Erich and let you know |
| 03:48.46 | wps | Thanks again for the rails |
| 03:49.22 | jsmith | No problem. |
| 03:49.29 | jsmith | Again, I'm just glad I can help out. |
| 03:50.24 | wps | now, we just hope that sendmail, mailman, and squirrelmail all behave nicely and configure easily :) |
| 03:50.46 | wps | everything is installed... I just have some configuration to do |
| 03:51.59 | wps | oh, wait... I just realized that I hadn't installed anything to run IMAP |
| 03:52.23 | wps | what plays nicest with Sendmail? Courier? |
| 03:55.04 | jsmith | Dovecot? |
| 03:55.17 | jsmith | Personally, I use Postfix, Dovecot, and Squirrelmail all together. |
| 03:55.40 | wps | I've used Postfix on my last two boxes |
| 03:55.46 | wps | I've never heard of Dovecot though |
| 03:56.15 | jsmith | Dovecot is a great IMAP server -- it's easy to configure, works well, etc. |
| 03:56.58 | wps | perhaps I'll give it a try |
| 03:57.16 | jsmith | Plus, it comes standard with FC3 :-) |
| 03:57.27 | wps | well, you can't beat that |
| 03:57.50 | jsmith | Nope -- 'yum install dovecot" and you're done. If it's not already installed. |
| 04:09.12 | jsmith | Well, there's still a little configuration. Especially if you want IMAP-over-SSL or STARTLS or some other secure IMAP stuff. |
| 04:09.38 | jsmith | But Dovecot is much easier to configure than say Courier. |
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| 05:02.24 | wps | no, I won't need it secure |
| 05:03.02 | jsmith | wps: It's fine with me if you want you password and email to go across the internet in plain text :-) |
| 05:03.51 | wps | oh, I thought you were talking about something else |
| 05:04.00 | wps | that's not SSL, is it? |
| 05:04.30 | jsmith | Oh, as long as you're only getting at IMAP through SquirrelMail over SSL, you're fine. |
| 05:04.55 | jsmith | I thought you might be using IMAP from another mail client across the network. |
| 05:05.02 | wps | I will be |
| 05:06.44 | wps | I want the username and pass secure |
| 05:07.06 | wps | I will be using a standard email client |
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| 15:48.54 | macnewbold | wps: regarding imap servers: I've never had any problems with UW-imap - it comes with a pop server too, IIRC |
| 15:49.32 | macnewbold | if you need help getting your sendmail set up for SMTP Auth, etc. let me know, I've set that up in the not too distant past |
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| 16:09.14 | macnewbold | did you guys all see the monster MySQL query from that echazen guy? |
| 16:09.35 | drewbono | I didn't. |
| 16:09.44 | mindjuju | not me |
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| 16:26.35 | dataw0lf | Yeah, I did. |
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| 16:28.38 | dataw0lf | loving you whether, whether, times are good or bad, happy or sad. |
| 16:29.26 | dataw0lf | tierra|h, optikal : OldSkoolS give you a Netjuke account on his server ? |
| 16:29.33 | optikal_ | no.. |
| 16:30.13 | optikal_ | looks cool tho |
| 16:30.15 | dataw0lf | oh, I thought he did. |
| 16:30.32 | optikal_ | Not I, atleast. |
| 16:30.39 | dataw0lf | 98229 Tracks <-- |
| 16:30.46 | optikal_ | yah hehe |
| 16:33.49 | dataw0lf | Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is an awesome movie. |
| 16:56.03 | dataw0lf | http://phpsec.org/articles/2005/text-captcha.html |
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| 16:59.35 | macnewbold | good article, dataw0lf... you ought to post an article about it on uphpu.org |
| 16:59.56 | optikal_ | article on what? |
| 16:59.59 | macnewbold | these image verification things make me laugh sometimes, because in school I had a class in image processing |
| 17:00.08 | macnewbold | oh, you missed it optikal... |
| 17:00.14 | macnewbold | http://phpsec.org/articles/2005/text-captcha.html |
| 17:00.24 | macnewbold | and most of the generated images out there |
| 17:00.32 | macnewbold | would be quite easy to OCR and get the text out of |
| 17:01.04 | macnewbold | it's only a matter of time before someone makes a publicly available open source image decoder that gives you back the text in the image... :) |
| 17:01.05 | jsmith | macnewbold: I agree. |
| 17:01.19 | macnewbold | hmm... maybe a fun uphpu group project? |
| 17:01.23 | jsmith | macnewbold: Anybody that's taken the "computer vision" class up at hte U would have fun with this. |
| 17:01.31 | macnewbold | yeah, that was the one I took |
| 17:01.31 | jsmith | macnewbold: Yeah, I think it would be fun. :-) |
| 17:01.49 | macnewbold | someone should propose it on the web site and/or mailing list and/or at the meeting... |
| 17:01.55 | macnewbold | I'll back you up if you do |
| 17:02.03 | dataw0lf | hm, that's an incredibly good idea. |
| 17:02.17 | macnewbold | (being a "fun" project, as well as useful, and cool, is a key requirement for a free project) |
| 17:04.22 | macnewbold | plus, it's got a great geek coolness factor... |
| 17:04.22 | jsmith | It's too bad I have so many other "projects" on my to-do list. |
| 17:04.31 | macnewbold | probably even slashdot-worthy too |
| 17:04.44 | macnewbold | url? |
| 17:04.46 | macnewbold | ~krull |
| 17:05.06 | macnewbold | jsmith: did you take the U computer vision class/ |
| 17:05.07 | macnewbold | ? |
| 17:05.11 | jsmith | http://test.plug.org:2500/krull |
| 17:05.13 | mindjuju | wasn't that a movie in the 80's? |
| 17:05.16 | mindjuju | krull? |
| 17:05.19 | jsmith | macnewbold: Yes, I did... a few years ago. |
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| 19:57.20 | macnewbold | jsmith: what year did you take the class? I was in it in 2003-2004 I think. |
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| 20:23.15 | jsmith | macnewbold: I think it was 2002 or so. |
| 20:23.52 | jsmith | macnewbold: It's been long enough ago that I don't remember. You would have remembered me if I were in your class. I was the one always talking back to the teacher. |
| 20:24.39 | dataw0lf | you rebel you! |
| 20:30.29 | jsmith | I know -- I must be a heathen for taking classes at the U. |
| 20:37.11 | dataw0lf | don't worry, I sacrifice small animals at the stroke of midnight all the time. |
| 20:39.15 | jsmith | dataw0lf: But do you do it on top of the A at Utah State? |
| 20:39.19 | jsmith | Now there's the question... |
| 20:40.46 | dataw0lf | no, I did it on top of the temple right under Moroni. |
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| 20:41.08 | dataw0lf | as you can tell, I'm not a Mormon. |
| 20:43.20 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Yeah, I figured as much. |
| 20:43.32 | jsmith | dataw0lf: And as you can probably tell, I am |
| 20:44.08 | dataw0lf | well being in Utah + the nick gives it away, me thinks. |
| 20:44.45 | dataw0lf | Ive begun automatically assuming everyone is Mormon since I move here. |
| 20:44.52 | dataw0lf | And I don't get pleasantly surprised too often. |
| 20:45.31 | jsmith | Well, the first thing you'll learn is that there are different kinds of Mormons... some more strict, some more "Mormon in name only" |
| 20:46.44 | dataw0lf | Well, that transcends LDS, it's true for every fanatical religion. |
| 20:47.05 | scott_ | not just fanatical religions, but all religions |
| 20:50.03 | dataw0lf | Yeah, but it's more evident in fanatical ones. |
| 20:53.50 | dataw0lf | Although, moving to Utah has gotten me intrigued by the Mormon religion. And my Dad is pushing me to read more about it. |
| 21:07.43 | macnewbold | it's pretty cool, dataw0lf |
| 21:08.59 | optikal_ | religion is not my thing. im just more of a free believer. |
| 21:10.14 | mindjuju | you mean you beleive in things that are free ? |
| 21:10.20 | dataw0lf | well, my Dad is an anthropologist, he isn't a Mormon. |
| 21:10.26 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:10.40 | mindjuju | just kidding optikal |
| 21:10.53 | optikal_ | mindjuju: nah.. i dont have any solid beliefs on a lot of things.. i keep myself pretty open minded. |
| 21:11.03 | dataw0lf | I think the reason why he wants me to read up on it is because it just helps cement on why religion is faulty. It's alot easier too because of the time period involved with the LDS church. |
| 21:13.40 | dataw0lf | I still don't understand why the Catholics haven't stomped the LDS church out yet. I think there's going to be some interesting organized religion stuff going on in the next thirty years or so. |
| 21:14.41 | mindjuju | i'm curious why you'd think the Catholics would try to "stomp" the LDS church? |
| 21:17.05 | dataw0lf | the LDS church is fast growing, the leaders are savvy enough to make tons off of the followers, etc. |
| 21:17.25 | dataw0lf | And the Catholics are good at stomping other religions out. |
| 21:18.05 | dataw0lf | In my mind, the Mormon church is just a younger, less cool version of the Catholic church *shrug* |
| 21:18.35 | dataw0lf | I mean, they're still tithing, it's like a watered down form of feudalism. |
| 21:19.15 | dataw0lf | Replacing nobility with corporate structure, of course, lest someone call me on the feudalism bit. |
| 21:19.53 | dataw0lf | And the foundation of any organized religion is "we're right, you're wrong" except Buddhism. |
| 21:19.55 | mindjuju | except that the tithe structure was set up long before feudalism |
| 21:19.58 | dataw0lf | which leads to the stomping out part. |
| 21:20.15 | dataw0lf | sure, feudalism just came to mind because I was thinking in medieval terms. |
| 21:20.32 | mindjuju | tithe also not mandatory, though it is expected |
| 21:20.45 | dataw0lf | Sure. |
| 21:20.47 | dataw0lf | Do you tithe? |
| 21:21.05 | optikal_ | heh.. that catches me funny 'not mandatory, thought it is expected' |
| 21:21.40 | mindjuju | I do, but I'm not a blind follower |
| 21:21.50 | dataw0lf | heh. |
| 21:22.03 | mindjuju | yeah, thought that'd bring out a laugh for you |
| 21:22.12 | mindjuju | I bet you like the works of Sir Francis Bacon |
| 21:22.17 | dataw0lf | Well, I'm not going to get into a theological argument where you're sure to get offended, so I won't reply to the blind follower thing. |
| 21:22.42 | mindjuju | he saw religion as a secular necessity that could be regulated by the state, or that was my impression by one of his books |
| 21:22.58 | mindjuju | no arguements on this side, i'm cool |
| 21:23.05 | mindjuju | plus lunchtime almost over for me |
| 21:23.23 | dataw0lf | Well, any time I get into a theological discussion, I usually end up offending somebody. |
| 21:23.43 | dataw0lf | Especially when it comes to the LDS church, which imho I think is a pretty ridiculous religion. imho, again. |
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| 21:25.44 | dataw0lf | If I was going to be any religion, I'd probably be a Buddhist. But I'm too indulgent to be Buddhist. |
| 21:26.24 | mindjuju_ | opinions usually are formed on some event. I'd be curious to find out what events caused you to believe that. If however, this is a surmise from what you've heard, i'd be less inclined to hear. |
| 21:26.45 | optikal_ | I know so little about religions, that i cannot argue or even discuss points.. but i know enough to know im not interested right now. |
| 21:29.13 | dataw0lf | mindjuju_: I have a pretty good understanding of the 3 trainings and the 4 noble truths, the eightfold path, and the five precepts. Plus, my father took me to IU when I was 17 to see the Dalai Llama speak. |
| 21:29.54 | dataw0lf | I know quite a bit about most major religions, my father has always encourage me to research them all to see if any fit me right. |
| 21:29.54 | mindjuju_ | that's really impressive. I'm actually talking about why you look so poorly on the LDS church though |
| 21:30.15 | dataw0lf | Oh, well, I think Mormons are pretty good people, generally. |
| 21:30.32 | dataw0lf | However, I'm speaking about the facts upon which their faith is based, as well as how their leadership has acted throughout history. |
| 21:30.41 | mindjuju_ | The reason I ask is because I too have study a lot of religions, but I don't dislike or look down on other religions; seeking more of a harmonious aspect to my life |
| 21:31.45 | dataw0lf | I don't 'look down' on Mormons, but I will profess that the religion itself and the leadership leaves quite a bit to be desired. |
| 21:32.57 | dataw0lf | I also really, really despise how the Mormon leadership demonizes any 'anti Mormon' book (example: Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven), and changes what is supposed to be 'holy' and the 'word of god' because of political pressure. |
| 21:33.01 | mindjuju_ | So not really an event that transpired, but more of a surmise. I can dig it. I'd be interested to speaking more on this topic as when time is available. we should probably pull this to a private channel so that others can converse here |
| 21:33.20 | dataw0lf | Feel free to priv me any time you'd like. |
| 21:33.45 | mindjuju_ | awesome! I really do like talking and seeing why people opine the way they do |
| 21:34.05 | dataw0lf | I'm an extremely opinionated person. |
| 21:34.31 | scott_ | I'd be interested in hearing the discussion also, so unless someone minds or starts talking it could continue here |
| 21:34.41 | dataw0lf | But, again, I don't want anyone to think I dislike Mormons at all. Mormons themselves seem to be an extremely respectful and honest people as a whole. |
| 21:35.06 | dataw0lf | I think mindjuju has to get back to work. |
| 21:35.24 | mindjuju_ | i actually do, but we should set something up for lunch tomorrow? |
| 21:35.44 | dataw0lf | Hm, that might not be so good, I think I have to have lunch with my girlfriend. |
| 21:35.49 | dataw0lf | What about later tonight ? |
| 21:36.29 | mindjuju_ | i don't *think* i have anything tonight but a small coding project |
| 21:36.34 | mindjuju_ | 7ish? |
| 21:36.44 | dataw0lf | Sounds good. |
| 21:37.08 | mindjuju_ | scott, if your interested, your welcome to be there |
| 21:37.42 | scott_ | I'll try |
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| 22:00.06 | mindjuju | does anybody know off hand if you can have a vertical row (similar to the html HR (horizontal row))? |
| 22:00.56 | fungus | I just use border-left or border-right on the box that I want the line to be on. |
| 22:01.12 | macnewbold | mindjuju: the horizontal rule (hr) tag can be used to make a vertical one, you just have to set it's height and width (so that height > width) |
| 22:02.15 | fungus | eww, your HTML code should be for content and structure, not formatting and layout. |
| 22:02.59 | macnewbold | dataw0lf / mindjuju / anyone else: I'd be interested in the religious discussion too, though I may not be avail. tonight. But if you tell me a chan on here, I'll join before I leave, and respond tomorrow, if that's cool. Let me warn you though, I'm LDS... |
| 22:04.48 | mindjuju | truth told, this is my first IRC (just never got around to playing with IRC when i was in college), so if you help to setup the channel, i'd be cool with that aka - don't know how to setup channel |
| 22:05.12 | mindjuju | thnx for the code on the vertical row, vertical row is for decor, i think it'll give a super snazzy look to the page |
| 22:05.17 | macnewbold | I believe you just have to join it, and it exists, but I may be wrong |
| 22:05.52 | macnewbold | yep, just tested it, and it works. |
| 22:06.10 | mindjuju | what are you using to access IRC? I'm using trillian and I had to preprogram this channel to be able to access it |
| 22:06.28 | mindjuju | preprogram trillian to access this channel rather |
| 22:06.29 | macnewbold | I'm using Gaim. try typing /join #utah or something |
| 22:07.52 | mindjuju | yeah, i can type that straight into this chat box and have it pull up a new window |
| 22:08.05 | *** part/#uphpu tbye (~tbye@69.27.4.131) |
| 22:08.54 | macnewbold | in mine I can join anything, but I can also add chats to my buddy list to save it |
| 22:09.25 | mindjuju | k, so tonight, why don't we meet in uphpu_other @7ish? |
| 22:09.49 | macnewbold | sure... I'll get in there and get it opened up |
| 22:10.10 | macnewbold | oh, you already did :) |
| 22:10.16 | macnewbold | you're the admin for the channel now |
| 22:10.35 | mindjuju | cool, as admin can i charge fees or anything cool like that? |
| 22:10.40 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:10.45 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:10.48 | macnewbold | not quite, but close |
| 22:11.18 | macnewbold | try this: /mode macnewbold +tnooo |
| 22:14.22 | macnewbold | mindjuju: whatever you just did stole my voice :) |
| 22:14.38 | mindjuju | here is what it said when i pasted what you said |
| 22:14.39 | mindjuju | *** Mode change "+m" for channel #uphpu_other by mindjuju. |
| 22:14.57 | macnewbold | try typing /mode help |
| 22:16.11 | mindjuju | k, just jumped out, do you want to create it and i'll join? |
| 22:16.33 | mindjuju | then I've got to find an IRC faq so i know what up |
| 22:16.33 | macnewbold | yeah, go for it |
| 22:16.40 | macnewbold | yeah, me too... |
| 22:17.35 | macnewbold | http://www.zuh.net/faq/irc.html |
| 22:17.38 | mindjuju | k, i'm out of channel |
| 22:27.50 | macnewbold | you can come back whenever, mindjuju |
| 22:28.35 | optikal_ | Anyone know why I get "Warning: mail() [function.mail]: SMTP server response: 503 5.5.2 Need Rcpt command" when trying to soend mai lwith mail()? It sends the mail fine, but to see whats going on I echo the to/from/header/message variables prior to mail() and it echos all but the receipient (to) variable.. but it does send the email.. any clue whats up with that? |
| 22:32.48 | optikal_ | hmm |
| 22:34.22 | mindjuju | sorry, off doing some layout stuff. k, your not getting error wend sending email, but you did see that message which says there are no receipients and the receipent variable when echoed comes up blank? |
| 22:34.39 | mindjuju | oops, not wend but when |
| 22:34.56 | optikal_ | I am gettting an error when sendnig mail (error is above) |
| 22:35.01 | optikal_ | well sorry |
| 22:35.04 | optikal_ | not an error, a warning |
| 22:35.12 | optikal_ | but ye.s. your right |
| 22:35.31 | optikal_ | i echo $rcpt, and it comes empty.. but it does mail($rcpt,etc.. and sends the mail fine.. |
| 22:35.45 | optikal_ | and it has the echo, and then right below ir.. if(mail($rcpt... |
| 22:35.52 | optikal_ | s/ir/it |
| 22:36.42 | mindjuju | how is $rcpt variable being sent to the page, by post or get? |
| 22:36.48 | mindjuju | or session? |
| 22:36.58 | optikal_ | actually, pulled from MySQL |
| 22:37.30 | optikal_ | the first thing i do is check to make sure i run this if.. |
| 22:38.05 | optikal_ | then i access the database, and pull the email address (based off the id from get), i set the a veriable for their 'dealer_number' and a variable for the 'company'. |
| 22:38.42 | optikal_ | then i set the message.. then i echo $rcpt $subj $msg $header, then i do if (mail($rcpt, $subj, $msg, $header)) {.. |
| 22:39.42 | mindjuju | and all those other fields are coming from mysql or are they set by the page? |
| 22:41.20 | optikal_ | mysql |
| 22:41.52 | mindjuju | so all the other is presenting itself except for the receipent. that is curious |
| 22:42.01 | optikal_ | yeah exactly |
| 22:42.23 | optikal_ | and yet, ie cho the rcpt before i run the mail function, and it doesnt echo it.. yet, the mail function completes.. but gives that warning |
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| 22:44.45 | *** mode/#uphpu [+o wps] by ChanServ |
| 22:45.03 | mindjuju | when you put in the mysql query into phpmyadmin, does it show the rcpt field? |
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| 22:45.37 | optikal_ | yeah |
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| 22:48.10 | dataw0lf | does it send it still though ? |
| 22:48.37 | optikal_ | yeah |
| 22:49.40 | dataw0lf | how many emails you sending out with it round about ? |
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| 22:50.02 | optika- | ek. |
| 22:50.04 | optika- | reset |
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| 22:52.55 | dataw0lf | maybe try smtp_mail() *shrug* |
| 22:52.56 | ih8peer | gar! |
| 22:58.16 | tierra|w | eh... enough people interested in hearing this religious discussion... I'd just say discuss it in here unless someone is working with someone else on something else |
| 22:58.45 | dataw0lf | somewhere |
| 22:59.18 | mindjuju | we could host it here too, just didn't want to hog the channel |
| 22:59.33 | mindjuju | but if enough people interested, i'm game here too |
| 23:00.31 | tierra|w | heh... just caught up on backlog I failed to read before I said that |
| 23:00.52 | tierra|w | #uphpu_other works |
| 23:04.17 | tierra|w | dataw0lf, there used to be a weakness in my login script where if you had two users behind NAT (or behind the same IP under some other network setup), one could screw up the pgp keys used to encrypt login passwords for the other, and login would fail... this would be rare and hard to pull off, but definately possible... I remember thinking about the problem before, and thinking there wasn't a good solution for it, but in refactoring |
| 23:04.17 | tierra|w | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.31 | dataw0lf | I'm working on the queue code, I'm coming up with some good stuff. |
| 23:35.32 | wps | alright boys |
| 23:35.38 | wps | I need some super-hacker-help |
| 23:35.49 | wps | I may not be able to get my data off the old server |
| 23:36.02 | wps | my ex-employer is being a @#)($*@# and is holding everything hostage |
| 23:37.12 | optikal_ | the uphpu server? |
| 23:37.15 | wps | yes |
| 23:37.23 | wps | it is not going to be fun, but I think that I will be able to recreate nearly all of the sites that I have on there from my backups... except the UPHPU database and mailing list archives |
| 23:37.50 | optikal_ | well first, is it even legal for him to 'hold it hostage'? |
| 23:38.06 | wps | I just got off the phone with an attorney and basically, yes |
| 23:38.11 | wps | it is their server |
| 23:38.26 | wps | (trust me... I am being much more pleasant than how I feel inside right now) |
| 23:38.35 | optikal_ | hmm |
| 23:39.04 | wps | I am wondering/hoping that there might be a change that I didn't do the security on the MySQL connection and that with the username and password, we might be able to remotely query the database and retrieve the stuff |
| 23:39.08 | wps | what do you think? |
| 23:39.26 | wps | I meant "chance" instead of "change" |
| 23:39.30 | optikal_ | what ver of mysql? |
| 23:39.41 | wps | uh... not sure |
| 23:39.46 | wps | the server is RH 9 |
| 23:39.54 | wps | but I don't know if MySQL was upgraded or not |
| 23:44.05 | wps | it's interesting how your "friends" can turn on you in an instant |
| 23:44.13 | wps | well, sad actually |
| 23:47.06 | wps | okay... here's another option |
| 23:47.25 | wps | GL allows you to do MySQL dumps via the web interface |
| 23:47.30 | wps | it stores them outside of webroot though |
| 23:47.47 | wps | any possible way to get to that file? |
| 23:48.54 | optikal_ | depends on who owns the folder/files and their permissions |
| 23:49.29 | wps | it should be the same as the webroot directory |
| 23:49.30 | wps | oooo |
| 23:49.53 | wps | holy junk... I think that I just solved it |
| 23:50.05 | wps | I can embed PHP into pages via the web interface... |
| 23:50.13 | wps | I just need to write a script that downloads the file |