| 00:00.05 | mindjuju | yabba dabba doooo! |
| 00:00.39 | mindjuju | thus ends the week, cya'll monday! |
| 00:02.07 | macnewbold | optikal: http://www.macnewbold.com/misc/ in the #gubug dir |
| 00:02.23 | macnewbold | sorry it isn't very pretty... just plain text logs |
| 00:02.31 | optikal | ur fired |
| 00:05.42 | dataw0lf | 2600 meeting for all you other #uphpu guys. |
| 00:05.49 | dataw0lf | if you wants to come we'd be glad to have you. |
| 00:06.15 | dataw0lf | Food Court at the ZCMI. |
| 00:08.45 | bigdog_ut | how many are attending? |
| 00:08.56 | macnewbold | 2600? |
| 00:08.58 | macnewbold | ~2600 |
| 00:08.59 | jbot | well, 2600 is a great magazine published by the people at http://www.2600.org/ |
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| 04:56.01 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, you around? |
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| 17:09.32 | wps | can someone help with my modular division? |
| 17:09.49 | wps | I am iterating through an array and want to do something before each third item |
| 17:10.16 | wps | shouldn't "%3" work? |
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| 17:23.08 | mindjuju | in mysql, I need to order a column with numbers. the numbers range from 1 - 20. the prob is that when i order by, it is putting the number 1,11,12, etc, not 1,2,3, |
| 17:23.18 | mindjuju | does anybody know away around this? |
| 17:24.17 | wps | it's showing it as 1,11,12 when you retrieve it? or it is actually that way in the db? |
| 17:25.11 | mindjuju | well, i'm having it PHP fetch the results array and even though i've specified in the sql query to order asc, php is displaying results 1, 10, 11, 12, etd |
| 17:25.58 | wps | so are they in the wrong order? or are there keys missing? (ie: where is 2 through 9)? |
| 17:26.10 | mindjuju | wrong order |
| 17:26.32 | wps | let's see your query |
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| 18:34.15 | wps | does anyone know the syntax for inserting a unicode character into HTML? |
| 18:37.15 | mindjuju | isn't it just the code itself like |
| 18:37.42 | wps | something like "भ" |
| 18:38.17 | mindjuju | that shows up for me as a wierd symbol that has 2 parts |
| 18:38.25 | mindjuju | a backwards G type shape and a T |
| 18:38.38 | wps | I just made the number up, but that is the syntax |
| 18:39.00 | mindjuju | yeah, but i mean, you should be able to just dump the unicode straight into the HTML and have it display |
| 18:39.09 | mindjuju | do you need an index for unicode in a particular language? |
| 18:39.20 | wps | I want a check mark |
| 18:39.37 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 18:46.34 | mindjuju | well, i found these so far |
| 18:46.35 | mindjuju | http://www.chucke.com/entities_problems.html#entities |
| 18:46.43 | mindjuju | not checkmarks, but different symbols |
| 18:48.12 | mindjuju | wps, this one is better |
| 18:48.13 | mindjuju | http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/latin_1_supplement.html |
| 18:48.26 | mindjuju | better organized that is, and tell you both the decimal and hex |
| 18:52.07 | wps | yeah, I can't find a checkmark anywhere though |
| 18:52.28 | wps | and I know that there is a unicode check mark character |
| 18:57.06 | wps | that's a good list, mindjuju |
| 18:57.12 | mindjuju | i found this |
| 18:57.13 | mindjuju | \u0271' |
| 18:57.18 | mindjuju | oops, remove that last mark |
| 18:57.24 | mindjuju | but forgot how to display that format |
| 18:57.25 | wps | I have been looking at similar pages all morning, but that is most complete |
| 18:57.41 | mindjuju | tried unescape in js but it won't show |
| 18:57.52 | mindjuju | there is a trick to having that symbol and translating it to something that html understnads |
| 18:57.55 | mindjuju | trying to find that trick |
| 19:00.13 | wps | ahah! |
| 19:00.17 | wps | I found it on this page: |
| 19:00.18 | wps | http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/dingbats.html |
| 19:00.23 | wps | but just using the hex didn't work |
| 19:00.24 | wps | :( |
| 19:01.44 | mindjuju | yeah, and if you don't have the dingbats font, won't work, for me this whole page shows boxes |
| 19:02.08 | mindjuju | do you want me to make you a 20x20 gif with a checkmark in it? |
| 19:02.13 | mindjuju | it'd load fast |
| 19:02.35 | wps | nah, I can do that... I just wanted to do it without using an image |
| 19:04.12 | mindjuju | well, try this |
| 19:04.14 | mindjuju | √ |
| 19:04.24 | mindjuju | it's the square root, but it fubars and doesn't display the overhead |
| 19:04.45 | mindjuju | looks kinda nice bolded |
| 19:04.55 | wps | funny... I was trying that earlier :) |
| 19:05.51 | mindjuju | hey, here is something funny that somebody used to get it to display |
| 19:05.52 | mindjuju | <span style="font-family: verdana; letter-spacing: -8px; font-weight: bold">v/</span> |
| 19:06.42 | mindjuju | oh well.. sorry! |
| 19:08.32 | wps | no problem |
| 19:08.34 | wps | thanks for looking |
| 19:08.45 | wps | looks like we're each 0 for 0 today |
| 19:08.47 | wps | :) |
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| 20:29.37 | mindjuju | does anybody know if you load an image at a reduced size, do all the bytes still come through but display is smaller or is the image mb size different? |
| 20:29.39 | mindjuju | like this |
| 20:29.39 | mindjuju | <img src=texas2.jpg width=10% height=10%> |
| 20:30.08 | mindjuju | so if the original picture is 200k, is the reduced 200k or is it some smaller amount? |
| 20:30.56 | wps | I don't |
| 20:37.34 | wps | mindjuju: I GOT IT!!! |
| 20:37.43 | mindjuju | yeah? how? |
| 20:37.48 | wps | ✓ |
| 20:37.48 | mindjuju | what's the code? |
| 20:38.35 | wps | it needed the 'x' in front of the number |
| 20:39.26 | mindjuju | k, i sux, i admit it, and I'm a jerk. i think that is font dependant because it's coming up as a box on my screen |
| 20:39.37 | mindjuju | sorry to rain on your parade |
| 20:39.59 | mindjuju | but if on intranet site where you know everybody will have the same fonts, your safe |
| 20:40.03 | wps | right... you have to specify that a unicode font be used |
| 20:40.18 | mindjuju | oh cool, that's why it not work! |
| 20:40.20 | mindjuju | oh good |
| 20:40.31 | mindjuju | i felt bad telling you after all your work. |
| 20:40.41 | mindjuju | i did read somewhere you have to mention it in the meta somewhere but forgot |
| 20:40.45 | mindjuju | way cool then! |
| 20:41.18 | wps | chalk another up for mac |
| 20:41.27 | wps | it works in all mac browsers without specifying a unicode phone |
| 20:42.11 | mindjuju | i'm mainly a PC guy, but have respect for the mac. though most IT PC guys won't admit it |
| 20:42.57 | mindjuju | that the Mac is good. -all you have to do though is bring up dynamic memory management and they'll usually change subject, that's the mac's strongest point |
| 20:46.10 | jsmith | mindjuju: To answer your question, all the bytes on the image still come through |
| 20:46.44 | mindjuju | yeah, and I'm bummed about it too. uploaded a huge image to test |
| 20:46.55 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to have the server thumbnail |
| 20:52.46 | jsmith | mindjuju: But that's easy -- especially if your PHP has the imagemagick module |
| 20:52.54 | jsmith | mindjuju: Or the gd module |
| 20:53.53 | mindjuju | yeah, i've actually already got a script using imagemagick, the site i'm working on is going to be a huge site using big pictures so i'm trying to use server load very carefully |
| 20:54.15 | mindjuju | if i need to use the server, i will, but with all the stuff it's going to be doing, and the amount of traffic we expect... |
| 20:58.27 | mindjuju | k, quick question so at least i'll feel better about it. since imagemagick is a compiled program, the server burden to use it as opposed to a php script to thumbnail would be less, as the php script is running uncompiled, right? |
| 21:10.11 | jsmith | Yes, exactly |
| 21:10.51 | mindjuju | awesome, thnx for the help! |
| 21:10.56 | jsmith | Depending on the site, you can either have the server create the thumbnail at the time you upload the picture (less load) or have the server dynamically create thumbnails each time someone wants one (more load) |
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| 22:56.11 | dataw0lf | http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/3541_project_steve_2_16_2003.asp |