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| 06:01.58 | wps | macnewbold: you around? |
| 06:02.24 | wps | ~seen macnewbold |
| 06:02.25 | jbot | macnewbold is currently on #utah (3d 17h 54m 4s). Has said a total of 238 messages. Is idling for 2d 4h 28m 15s |
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| 15:09.33 | optikal_ | gmorning |
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| 15:57.43 | optikal | thanks =) |
| 15:57.50 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 15:57.59 | macnewbold | so what did you do to get yourself banned? |
| 15:58.04 | optikal | i asked for it |
| 15:58.08 | optikal | literally =P |
| 15:58.08 | macnewbold | or was wps just in a bad mood? |
| 15:58.33 | optikal | i left x-chat open @ home and in channel, and my comcast was reseting every 20minutes (so i'd join/quit every 20mins and i got annoyed w/ it) |
| 15:58.41 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 15:58.44 | mindjuju | oh yeah, that was the ghost problem from last week |
| 15:58.48 | optikal | yeh |
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| 16:13.07 | synic | optikal: so yeah. I didn't break anything skiing. |
| 16:14.50 | synic | oh, and infected mushroom + mp3 player + skiing == awesome |
| 16:15.10 | optikal | synic: thats too bad, and awesome! |
| 16:15.12 | optikal | =P |
| 16:15.56 | synic | I'd never brought music before... and just happened to think about it while shutting the rio off when I was getting out of my car. |
| 16:16.00 | synic | highly recommended :) |
| 16:16.10 | optikal | very nice |
| 16:16.16 | optikal | that'd be pretty killr |
| 16:16.28 | optikal | i finally started sorting my 22gb of unsorted mp3s over the weekend |
| 16:16.39 | synic | wow. |
| 16:16.41 | optikal | and found my long lost batch of Goa Trance.. 4gb of it.. oof.. some great artists in there |
| 16:16.44 | synic | I have like 1.5GB total. |
| 16:16.56 | optikal | yeh.. Im sad, i had 22gb of unsorted crap.. lol |
| 16:18.19 | optikal | its oke tho.. i sorted through about half of it |
| 16:19.00 | macnewbold | if you have 22GB of unsorted stuff, how much sorted stuff do you hae? |
| 16:19.02 | macnewbold | have? |
| 16:19.13 | optikal | 400gb+ |
| 16:19.26 | optikal | Im not sure the exact number, ive been removing/adding stuff quite a bit over the last few weeks |
| 16:19.38 | optikal | Over 20,000 songs and over 3 months of straight music |
| 16:19.59 | macnewbold | wow... I'm afraid to ask how many CDs you own... |
| 16:20.13 | optikal | haha.. music cds? just under 500 |
| 16:20.33 | macnewbold | wow... that's almost 1GB of mp3's per cd... |
| 16:21.03 | optikal | yeh, most of my music is techno/drance/dance. |
| 16:21.08 | optikal | s/drance/trance |
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| 16:48.09 | optikal | mornin |
| 16:49.58 | bigdog_ut | likewise |
| 17:13.35 | alphahawk | has anyonne in here used preg_quote before? from what I am reading it should put a slash infront of paranthases ( ). Does it still in php 5.0? |
| 17:23.54 | bigdog_ut | not sure |
| 17:27.30 | alphahawk | hmmm. Okay the docs on php.net says it does but whenever I try it doesn't slash them |
| 17:27.34 | alphahawk | thanks |
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| 17:28.39 | optikal | alphahawk: no problem |
| 17:28.43 | optikal | your quite welcome |
| 17:28.45 | optikal | =P |
| 17:29.03 | mindjuju | alpha, this preg should be working in 3, 4 and PHP 5 |
| 17:29.19 | mindjuju | what happens when you echo the results of the function run? |
| 17:29.34 | mindjuju | is it just the same string before or has anything changed, maybe an error? |
| 17:30.21 | alphahawk | what I tried was setting a $tmp="("; then did the preg_quote and echo $tmp and all I get is ( |
| 17:31.09 | mindjuju | what is the string that you were hoping to get? |
| 17:32.32 | alphahawk | ahhh figured out my problem. I am still use to c++ and when I change a value it returns the variable I passed and not through a return |
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| 17:33.58 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 17:34.39 | synic | xilch|w is a turd. |
| 17:35.13 | xilch|w | I am what I eat |
| 17:35.18 | xilch|w | ... er |
| 17:36.09 | mindjuju | curious |
| 17:36.55 | optikal | mornin xilch |
| 17:37.37 | xilch|w | 'hiya optikal |
| 17:46.06 | optikal | wps: checkin out linode.com eh |
| 17:46.46 | wps | I'm freaking tearing my hair out! |
| 17:47.03 | wps | I have been working on this freaking server thing all weekend |
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| 17:57.33 | wps | optikal: what do you do for back up? |
| 17:59.01 | optikal | what do you mean? |
| 17:59.03 | optikal | to backup my linode.com? |
| 17:59.51 | wps | yes |
| 17:59.57 | optikal | rsync to a diff server of mine |
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| 18:59.41 | synic | wps: oh yeah. |
| 18:59.45 | synic | where did you want me to send the article? |
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| 19:12.29 | wps | admin@uphpu.org |
| 19:13.01 | synic | wps: are you not taking donations anymore? |
| 19:13.14 | wps | what? |
| 19:13.30 | wps | no, we are taking them right now... trying to buy a new server |
| 19:13.33 | synic | I made a donation, but it was denied |
| 19:13.49 | wps | oh, where you the one that tried paying with a credit card? |
| 19:14.11 | synic | with paypal |
| 19:14.18 | wps | and you were denied? |
| 19:14.28 | wps | hmm... when? just now? |
| 19:14.31 | synic | yup |
| 19:17.41 | dataw0lf | can I get a cool tshirt if I donate? |
| 19:18.22 | wps | sure, I have one from Hawaii that my mother brought back that I rarely wear |
| 19:18.58 | wps | synic, yeah... yours was the one I denied. it said that it was a credit card payment and that I would have to upgrade to a business account to accept it |
| 19:19.58 | wps | did you just do a paypal to paypal transfer? |
| 19:20.46 | synic | well, I don't really have money in my paypal account |
| 19:20.53 | synic | can I withdraw it from my card into my account? |
| 19:20.58 | synic | and then transfer it? |
| 19:21.10 | wps | how did you try to transfer it? |
| 19:21.22 | wps | I am not sure... sorry.... I don't know that much about PayPal |
| 19:21.24 | synic | hrmm, not sure, let me see |
| 19:22.19 | *** topic/#uphpu by wps -> Thanks to everyone who has donated! |
| 19:23.57 | wps | about the server... for those that are interested... |
| 19:24.29 | wps | I have a friend that gets damaged hardware and he it looking, but I just missed their monthly auction, so it probably won't be an option... |
| 19:24.46 | wps | so... assuming that I can't get the good deal from him... I am planning on a Dell PowerEdge |
| 19:27.50 | tierra|w | how much traffic does UPHPU do? is a dedicated server really necessary? |
| 19:29.50 | tierra|w | that can kill on monthly bills going dedicated versus where something like a VPS could handle everything fine for more around $30-$40/mo if not less |
| 19:30.28 | wps | uphpu has nearly 2GB of traffic per month |
| 19:30.38 | wps | it is not the only site on the box however |
| 19:31.08 | wps | we are getting deals for hosting and bandwidth however so the price will end up being the same as if we went with a virtual |
| 19:31.34 | tierra|w | yeah, 2GB isn't much at all |
| 19:31.37 | wps | ($30-$40/month) |
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| 19:33.28 | tierra|w | yeah, that is the better way to go then if you can get dedicated for that little |
| 19:33.56 | wps | that's what I think |
| 19:34.10 | wps | I am happy to keep paying the monthly fees |
| 19:34.18 | wps | I just need some to help cover the cost of the hardware |
| 19:35.08 | wps | $10 is not much to pay, but if we get that from each member, then we will have even more than we need for the server... so we could vote and use it for other stuff |
| 19:35.43 | synic | wps: paypal is down or something |
| 19:35.56 | wps | really? |
| 19:36.52 | wps | I have received donations from two other people today |
| 19:37.59 | synic | I can't log in |
| 19:38.09 | synic | it's extra super slow |
| 19:38.53 | wps | hmm... running fine for me |
| 19:49.45 | wps | got you article |
| 19:49.47 | wps | thanks adam |
| 19:49.58 | synic | hrmm |
| 19:50.04 | synic | it says it's having trouble delivering |
| 19:50.14 | synic | but if it got there, I'll stop trying |
| 19:50.30 | wps | yup, I got it |
| 19:50.43 | synic | maybe our network is just having problems |
| 19:52.42 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: you notice my wallet in your car ? |
| 19:52.55 | tierra|w | let me go check real quick |
| 19:53.05 | wps | tierra|w: want to bring it over here? |
| 19:54.26 | tierra|w | found it |
| 19:54.39 | tierra|w | wps, did you mean synic? |
| 19:54.53 | tierra|w | dataw0lf, I have it in my car |
| 19:55.00 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: <3 |
| 19:55.11 | wps | nope, was referring to you and your possesion of dataw0lf's wallet |
| 19:55.20 | tierra|w | oh, k, wasn't sure |
| 19:55.23 | wps | :) |
| 19:55.29 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 19:55.30 | tierra|w | hehe |
| 19:55.52 | dataw0lf | man, these ITT commercials are hilarious. |
| 19:55.52 | tierra|w | when do you need it? |
| 19:55.59 | wps | assuming that there is more in there than picks of his harem |
| 19:56.17 | dataw0lf | (redneck voice) Well, the reason why I went to ITT for an education is so I wouldn't be held back on my climb up the corporate ladder. |
| 19:56.25 | tierra|w | =) |
| 19:56.26 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: whenever, not a big deal. |
| 19:56.39 | dataw0lf | just as long as it's been found I'm resting easy. |
| 19:57.05 | tierra|w | yeah, it was sitting right where I think f8l spilled his drink |
| 19:57.10 | dataw0lf | I was going to go out last night with kryp71k but i didn't have my damn id. And nobody ever believes I'm 22. |
| 19:57.21 | dataw0lf | f8l spilled his drink? |
| 19:57.31 | tierra|w | doesn't look like it got your wallet though |
| 19:57.37 | dataw0lf | *shrug* |
| 19:57.41 | tierra|w | yeah |
| 19:57.59 | dataw0lf | I remember driving your car around the parking lot _right_ before the cops got there. |
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| 20:31.44 | wps | looks like we might get rack space and bandwidth for free! |
| 20:32.51 | synic | ok, paypal came up. |
| 20:33.05 | synic | it looks like it will take 3 days to transfer funds from my bank account into paypal |
| 20:34.11 | wps | that's fine |
| 20:34.18 | wps | I will be making the purchase on my credit card anyway |
| 20:34.26 | wps | (I get 1% back on all purchases) |
| 20:34.35 | wps | that meant $350 of free money for 2004! |
| 20:34.43 | synic | woohoo! |
| 20:34.56 | wps | I am putting all of that towards the server |
| 20:35.19 | wps | I am also getting $150 back in rebates from a camera that I bought... which I will also be putting towards the server |
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| 21:42.34 | tierra|w | free rackspace and bandwidth? what does that leave then as far as expenses, just the server? |
| 21:42.41 | wps | yup |
| 21:42.43 | wps | nice, huh |
| 21:42.50 | tierra|w | hell yeah |
| 21:42.56 | tierra|w | er... excuse me |
| 21:42.57 | wps | :) |
| 21:43.37 | tierra|w | xmission throwing down? |
| 21:44.05 | tierra|w | whenever I hear something like this, it's always xmission taking the blow |
| 21:44.08 | wps | they are getting back to me tomorrow with an offer (perhaps half off bandwidth) |
| 21:44.26 | tierra|w | they are pretty cool about lending rackspace |
| 21:44.37 | wps | yeah, and they would donate the rackspace |
| 21:45.27 | wps | the free is from a member of the group that has space next to his server at his host |
| 21:46.56 | tierra|w | ah, cool |
| 21:52.06 | macnewbold | if they'll give free hosting to us, we might as well get them to do rackspace, since that probably actually costs them less |
| 21:52.27 | wps | xmission? |
| 21:52.30 | wps | that's what they're doing |
| 21:52.40 | wps | xmission will give us free rackspace |
| 21:56.13 | beandog | oh cool |
| 21:56.30 | wps | the issue is just bandwidth |
| 21:56.44 | wps | they don't sell bandwidth, normally, in small (10 GB) chunks |
| 21:56.49 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 21:57.15 | macnewbold | min. bandwidth for their coloc datacenter is like 20GB/month |
| 22:05.10 | wps | um... excellent news boys |
| 22:06.17 | wps | we just snagged an HP ProLiant DL360 G4 Server! |
| 22:06.59 | tierra|w | http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl360/ |
| 22:07.11 | wps | that's the one |
| 22:07.19 | tierra|w | nice |
| 22:07.20 | wps | I have a "friend" ;) |
| 22:07.37 | wps | I am getting that cheaper than the PowerEdge 750 :) |
| 22:08.07 | wps | the case is damaged, but it is all cosmetic and the unit is new |
| 22:08.35 | tierra|w | very nice... what processors does it have? |
| 22:10.21 | wps | 3 GHz |
| 22:10.59 | macnewbold | dang |
| 22:11.11 | drewbono | wps: that's awesome! |
| 22:11.17 | macnewbold | At very low cost, or free? |
| 22:11.18 | drewbono | dual 3ghz |
| 22:11.45 | tierra|w | does it come with both procs? |
| 22:12.10 | tierra|w | (still is a good deal with one) |
| 22:12.30 | wps | Single, w/dual capacity |
| 22:12.45 | wps | does "w/dual capacity" mean that I could purchase a second proc? |
| 22:12.52 | wps | $900 flat |
| 22:13.08 | mindjuju | wow! that's less than half the price! |
| 22:13.56 | wps | yeah |
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| 22:35.11 | tierra|w | you can get another 1U 3.0Ghz Xeon for cheaper than that... they go for more around $340 I think |
| 22:35.19 | tierra|w | eh... wps quit |
| 22:36.14 | optikal | yeh |
| 22:37.13 | dataw0lf | yuh |
| 22:37.38 | optikal | yoh |
| 22:37.48 | optikal | sups |
| 22:38.08 | dataw0lf | Roxie is pregnant. |
| 22:38.27 | optikal | Not yours, right? |
| 22:38.59 | dataw0lf | just kidding. |
| 22:40.21 | optikal | why the flip do i always end up doing web projects for everyone but myself. |
| 22:40.56 | tierra|w | because your just not creative enough to come up with your own ideas =) |
| 22:41.05 | tierra|w | na, that's my problem |
| 22:41.11 | optikal | actually, that is my problem. |
| 22:41.44 | optikal | its quite sad. but yah, that probably actually is a big part of why. |
| 22:41.50 | dataw0lf | shut up, you're artsy and you know it. |
| 22:42.04 | optikal | haha.. you are the artsy one. *RARRR* |
| 22:42.40 | optikal | i am artsy under certain substances, or on a rare occasion. |
| 22:46.17 | dataw0lf | if I was artsy I'd wear a beret, have a moustache, and wear spandex. |
| 22:46.34 | dataw0lf | but I don't have the moustache, so I'm right out. |
| 22:47.33 | optikal | yeh.. i was gunna say, u and those spandex pants.. startin to become your normal image. but yiou gotta rid of the rainbow suspenders |
| 22:48.57 | dataw0lf | psh, the rainbow suspenders MAKE the outfit. |
| 22:49.05 | optikal | if you say so |
| 22:49.29 | optikal | i'd go for a more pastel two tone.. |
| 22:50.41 | dataw0lf | see, and thus you prove your artsiness once again. |
| 22:52.18 | optikal | i suppose your right |
| 22:52.31 | dataw0lf | *you're |
| 22:52.48 | dataw0lf | and does anybody here have Martin L. Gore's Stardust mp3 ? either normal mix or atomic. |
| 22:54.57 | optikal | uhm, ask me when i login @ home.. im leavin here in 5min |
| 22:59.54 | dataw0lf | I gots it. |
| 22:59.59 | dataw0lf | oh man, this song is awesome. |
| 23:00.04 | optikal | hehe nice |
| 23:01.40 | spiderbiter | any CSS gurus in the room? |
| 23:01.58 | spiderbiter | I'm having trouble with some unwanted whitespace that shows up in Firefox |
| 23:02.10 | spiderbiter | I hope someone know the fix http://www.pastebin.com/235912 |
| 23:02.52 | spiderbiter | inserting content with #center:before closes it off |
| 23:03.39 | spiderbiter | IE handles it just fine |
| 23:03.48 | spiderbiter | but not Firefox |
| 23:04.13 | spiderbiter | I'd hate to give IE any credit, so I hope someone can fault my code |
| 23:04.17 | spiderbiter | ;-) |
| 23:04.51 | optikal | i can prob help u later, im leaving the office right now |
| 23:05.17 | spiderbiter | I'll probably be here for a while |
| 23:06.40 | spiderbiter | Oh, manners! And how is everyone this fine day? |
| 23:13.40 | spiderbiter | macnewbold, beandog, tierra|w, synic, Sir Fungus of Extract ... |
| 23:13.55 | spiderbiter | how is everyone? |
| 23:14.00 | macnewbold | well, thanks |
| 23:14.06 | fungus | tired. |
| 23:14.09 | synic | what about yourself? |
| 23:15.16 | fungus | those are always good be done with. |
| 23:15.16 | spiderbiter | 6 on the cal anyway |
| 23:15.46 | spiderbiter | add a couple weeks of overtime makes 8 |
| 23:16.10 | spiderbiter | And I said hello to the Sun today |
| 23:16.11 | macnewbold | and hopefully a couple weeks of overtime means 2x-3x the price :) |
| 23:16.13 | spiderbiter | that was nice |
| 23:16.43 | spiderbiter | macnewbold, I wish .. I did a fixed bid |
| 23:17.15 | macnewbold | so was it just a bad guess on what it would take, or did they broaden the scope of the project? |
| 23:18.38 | spiderbiter | it was working on someone elses code, so it was hard to estimate |
| 23:19.08 | spiderbiter | that and XSLT was a surprise I should have milked |
| 23:22.05 | macnewbold | yeah, if they threw that at you, you should try to renegotiate something |
| 23:22.28 | macnewbold | or if not, don't work for them again, at least not without bidding "conservatively" |
| 23:23.21 | spiderbiter | yeah, I'm a little wiser ... as long as they know that I really went to bat for them I'm ok ... |
| 23:23.52 | spiderbiter | I wont mind working with them again, but this WONT be a trend!!! |
| 23:23.58 | dataw0lf | I see you're drinking 1%. Is that 'cause you think you're fat? 'Cause you're not. You could be drinking whole if you wanted to. |
| 23:24.43 | spiderbiter | Pedro offers you his protection |
| 23:26.07 | dataw0lf | that's like, the best part in the whole movie. except when he gets the button and throws it down the hallway. |