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| 04:54.25 | bigdog_ut | evenin all |
| 04:54.43 | usynic | howdy |
| 04:55.53 | bigdog_ut | hows it going |
| 04:56.27 | usynic | 'tis alright. |
| 04:56.31 | usynic | visiting my folks |
| 04:56.36 | usynic | what about you? |
| 04:56.50 | bigdog_ut | working on getting my security clearance |
| 04:57.00 | bigdog_ut | which is a pain in the ass |
| 04:57.18 | bigdog_ut | and compiling mozilla on my gentoo box |
| 04:57.19 | usynic | security clearance? |
| 04:57.41 | bigdog_ut | yeah government security clearnance...step down from top secret clearance |
| 04:58.10 | bigdog_ut | it is a form that you have to fill out |
| 04:58.41 | bigdog_ut | it is so boring to do |
| 04:58.52 | usynic | plenty 'o pointless questions? |
| 04:59.15 | bigdog_ut | yes and dates...and they all have to line up |
| 04:59.49 | bigdog_ut | so it sucks cause i have to track it all down |
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| 05:28.45 | boucha | From what I heard on the mailing list, Tuesday's meeting was great. |
| 05:30.51 | usynic | yeah |
| 05:35.02 | boucha | Has anyone volunteered for the open position yet? |
| 05:41.00 | bigdog_ut | i dont think so yet |
| 05:51.32 | boucha | have any of you read about Ruby on Rails yet? I just read a great article about it today. A coworker and I are thinking of rolling one for PHP |
| 05:51.46 | boucha | here's the article: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/01/20/rails.html |
| 05:52.15 | usynic | boucha, yeah, I've played with it before |
| 05:52.31 | boucha | what did you think? |
| 05:52.42 | usynic | I liked it quite a bit |
| 05:52.55 | usynic | I was thinking of making my own for php too, lol |
| 05:53.04 | boucha | usynic, lol |
| 05:53.18 | boucha | I can really see how that could speed up development time. |
| 05:53.31 | usynic | boucha, actually, when i used rails, I really liked all the ideas |
| 05:53.50 | usynic | but I'd like to take the ideas and write my own in ruby |
| 05:54.05 | usynic | there are a few things I didn't like, and if I wrote my own, I could get around them. |
| 05:54.12 | boucha | I'm going to be out of town next week on business and I'm going to download it and see if I can start mimicing some of their classes in php |
| 05:54.55 | usynic | gonna use php5? |
| 05:54.59 | boucha | Yeah. |
| 05:55.04 | usynic | groovy |
| 05:55.41 | boucha | When I first read the article, I have to admit that I thought about learning Ruby, but after digging around a little I realized I still love php |
| 05:55.57 | boucha | I think something like this is very doable in php5 |
| 05:56.00 | usynic | I like php, especially now that php5 is out... |
| 05:56.05 | usynic | but I like ruby a lot more. |
| 05:57.06 | boucha | why's that? |
| 05:57.51 | usynic | because I like OO - and ruby's base library was built to be oo from the bottom up |
| 05:58.10 | usynic | so you get things like "hey you".sub( /you/, 'there' ) |
| 05:58.23 | usynic | instead of str_replace( "you", "there", "hey you" ); |
| 05:59.04 | boucha | hm, that's interesting |
| 05:59.14 | usynic | and: |
| 05:59.22 | usynic | size = array.size |
| 05:59.32 | usynic | instead of sizeof( $array ) |
| 05:59.51 | boucha | sounds kind of like python |
| 06:00.02 | usynic | yeah, I've heard they are similar. |
| 06:00.26 | boucha | so how much do you code in ruby compared to php? |
| 06:02.00 | usynic | I've done a lot more in php |
| 06:02.17 | usynic | oh, and looping in ruby is really cool. each loopable data type comes with an iterator |
| 06:02.25 | usynic | say you have an array of items, and you want to print them all out |
| 06:02.28 | usynic | this is how you would do it: |
| 06:02.37 | usynic | some_array.each do |var| |
| 06:02.43 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.44 | usynic | end |
| 06:03.03 | boucha | that's pretty simple |
| 06:03.23 | usynic | yeah - or an sql query: |
| 06:03.36 | usynic | dbh.select_all( "SELECT * FROM whatever" ) do |row| |
| 06:03.43 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.44 | usynic | end |
| 06:04.01 | boucha | the guy I code with at work and I have been scouting around for a framework to redo a big app we wrote over the last year. |
| 06:05.08 | boucha | something like ruby on rails is what we've been looking for |
| 06:05.34 | boucha | well, it's been nice chatting. gotta get up early tomorrow. |
| 06:05.38 | usynic | ok |
| 06:05.41 | usynic | have a good one. |
| 06:05.47 | boucha | you too. |
| 06:05.48 | boucha | take care |
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| 18:56.22 | dataw0lf | good 'morning' gentlemen. |
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| 19:12.13 | bigdog_ut | afternoon all |
| 19:12.24 | dataw0lf | sup |
| 19:12.53 | bigdog_ut | not a whole lot...got done adding an ide card to my box and upped my kern |
| 19:15.39 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, whatz up with ya? |
| 19:16.08 | bigdog_ut | anyone here on gnome2.8? |
| 19:21.18 | dataw0lf | I am. |
| 19:27.27 | dataw0lf | If anyone wants an 'official' Ubuntu cd (install cd + live cd) let me know and I'll bring some to the next meeting. |
| 19:27.46 | dataw0lf | got the naked people on the front and the whole shebang. |
| 19:30.06 | usynic | dataw0lf, got yours eh? I still haven't gotten mine. |
| 19:30.10 | usynic | how many did you order? |
| 19:30.48 | dataw0lf | um.. a shitload. |
| 19:30.53 | dataw0lf | oops.. I mean alot. |
| 19:31.01 | dataw0lf | sorry bout that, thought I was in another channel. |
| 19:31.12 | dataw0lf | I have like 40 x86 and 10 powerpc |
| 19:31.17 | usynic | lol |
| 19:31.18 | usynic | wow |
| 19:31.29 | usynic | I can't understand why they'd do that |
| 19:31.34 | usynic | it boggles the mind. |
| 19:32.15 | dataw0lf | because Shuttlesworth has the money to spend to do it. |
| 19:32.26 | dataw0lf | people don't realize that all the Ubuntu developers are on the payroll. |
| 19:32.38 | dataw0lf | and it is a commercial company producing it. |
| 19:33.00 | usynic | yeah... but where did this company come from? Ubuntu is their only product, isn't it? |
| 19:33.32 | dataw0lf | Shuttlesworth is a billionaire and a open-source / free software freak, he's trying to produce the best free Linux distro out there. |