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| 05:12.33 | spiderbiter | top O' the late evening Mr. WPS |
| 05:14.04 | wps | hey |
| 05:14.10 | spiderbiter | kinda quiet as usuall this time of night |
| 05:14.34 | spiderbiter | we need to recruit more evening programmers |
| 05:15.00 | wps | nah |
| 05:15.04 | wps | I'd rather be asleep |
| 05:15.41 | spiderbiter | I'm one of those late momentum guys |
| 05:17.46 | spiderbiter | I've Got a MySql/PHP issue |
| 05:18.52 | spiderbiter | what is the best way to check for dup records in MySql? |
| 05:19.31 | wps | they only way that I would know would be to pull out all of the data with PHP and compare it |
| 05:19.45 | spiderbiter | I guess replace into would work ok |
| 05:20.00 | spiderbiter | looking into it |
| 05:20.03 | wps | my MySQL skills are quite novice however |
| 05:20.47 | spiderbiter | mine are creeping along ;-) |
| 05:27.41 | macnewbol1 | spiderbiter: you get your mysql thing working? |
| 05:28.08 | spiderbiter | still working on it |
| 05:28.10 | macnewbol1 | (so is macnewbold) |
| 05:28.21 | macnewbol1 | so in what way are you trying to check for dups? |
| 05:28.38 | spiderbiter | it's a join table |
| 05:28.39 | macnewbol1 | dup rows? dups in a particular field? |
| 05:29.50 | spiderbiter | I'm associating a task with a question |
| 05:30.16 | spiderbiter | but the interface shows all searched tasks and all serched questions |
| 05:30.37 | macnewbol1 | ah |
| 05:31.06 | macnewbol1 | wanna msg me some info? It sounds like you might be missing something in the "on" clause of your join |
| 05:31.21 | spiderbiter | so there is a very large possibility that dups will frequently be attempted |
| 05:31.34 | spiderbiter | sure |
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| 06:19.06 | macnewbol1 | welcome, tierra|h ... you're arriving quite late, no? |
| 06:19.47 | tierra|h | unfortunately... seems upgrading drives is a little more of a hassle than simply ghosting |
| 06:20.02 | tierra|h | headed to sleep in a minute |
| 06:21.01 | macnewbol1 | good... morning comes early :) |
| 06:21.59 | tierra|h | yes it does |
| 06:24.43 | usynic | any of you postgres users? |
| 06:27.30 | tierra|h | seems mostly just dataw0lf |
| 06:32.33 | macnewbol1 | usynic: not yet... |
| 06:32.44 | macnewbol1 | bigdog is, I know |
| 06:33.30 | usynic | it's being weird. I've been using it for 10 minutes and I'm already confused |
| 06:35.43 | macnewbol1 | :) switch back to MySQL ;) |
| 06:35.50 | usynic | well... I'd love to |
| 06:35.56 | usynic | but the host uses postgres. |
| 06:40.02 | macnewbol1 | whoever said the S in SQL stands for "Standard" was high at the time... :) "Structured" maybe, but definitely not standard |
| 06:40.20 | macnewbol1 | g'night all |
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| 09:38.35 | spiderbiter | wps, welcome back |
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| 16:24.57 | macnewbold | Morning, all |
| 16:25.16 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> UPHPU.org - Tonight's meeting: strings and regular expressions! |
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| 16:27.27 | alphahawk | Hell everyone |
| 16:28.58 | alphahawk | bah can't type today meant Hello everyone |
| 16:30.34 | wps | that's a nice freudian slip :) |
| 16:30.37 | wps | good morning, alphahawk |
| 16:31.47 | alphahawk | ya no kidding. |
| 16:32.16 | alphahawk | Hey wps have you or do you know where I can look for information for streaming mp3's across a network? |
| 16:33.05 | macnewbold | alphahawk: there's stuff like icecast/shoutcast that does some of that, or most players will play it as they're downloaded, which is basically the same as streaming |
| 16:33.27 | wps | I don't have any experience, sorry |
| 16:33.50 | alphahawk | macnewbold: thanks that is what I am after |
| 16:33.51 | wps | drebono has a little experience streaming video, but not much I think |
| 16:34.18 | macnewbold | google will probably turn up as much as anything |
| 16:34.30 | macnewbold | you could also ask in #utah... I'm sure people in there know |
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| 16:36.39 | alphahawk | I will check them out. I asked in #slackware and no response. |
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| 16:48.27 | optikal | 'ello |
| 16:49.12 | alphahawk | Hello optikal |
| 16:49.19 | optikal | whats up |
| 16:53.41 | wps | WOW |
| 16:53.48 | wps | there are actually six people on the website |
| 16:53.53 | optikal | hehe |
| 16:53.59 | optikal | yep |
| 16:54.00 | alphahawk | oooh wait |
| 16:54.20 | alphahawk | there ya go 7 now |
| 16:54.22 | Rajah | we use this to stream between some friends http://www.turnstyle.com/andromeda/ |
| 16:54.32 | optikal | hehe |
| 16:55.31 | optikal | I was just about to write something quite similiar to that for personal use. |
| 16:55.40 | optikal | Probably still will, cause theres a lot of custom things I want to do. |
| 16:55.51 | optikal | Got to finish the projects on my plate first, however. |
| 16:57.02 | alphahawk | optikal: I might do it also but from what I am seeing there are quit a few apps out there already. |
| 16:58.37 | optikal | alphahawk: yeah, i'd definately want to check them out first. but im pretty picky with applications like that, and if they dont do it exactly how i like it i'll write it myself. just reinventing the wheel for how i like the ride. |
| 16:59.09 | alphahawk | I will let you guys know what I find though. I will be more than happy to give you guys links to try them out also if you like |
| 16:59.20 | alphahawk | once I get them installed and going |
| 16:59.23 | optikal | awesome. i just bookmarked that page. =) |
| 16:59.35 | optikal | so yeah, im definately interested in links/feedback. |
| 16:59.46 | optikal | i won't have time to try/play with any for atleast a week or two. possibly three. |
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| 17:01.32 | optikal | wb |
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| 17:05.37 | synic | ty |
| 17:44.22 | alpahawk | Hey guys where is the meeting tongiht anyways? |
| 17:44.47 | synic | linux networx |
| 17:45.15 | synic | http://uphpu.org/calendar_event.php?mode=&eid=20040930083706433 |
| 17:48.31 | optikal | How long do the meetings usually last? |
| 17:48.53 | wps | hour and a half |
| 18:43.13 | dataw0lf | to use or not to use JavaScript, that is the question. |
| 18:50.34 | optikal | eeek |
| 18:50.43 | optikal | Only if you absolutely have to, I'd say. |
| 18:52.40 | fungus | or at least provide a way for it to gracefully degrade if javascript is off or not supported. |
| 18:52.56 | optikal | quite true |
| 18:54.45 | dataw0lf | Don't I know it. |
| 18:56.01 | dataw0lf | I found a library that outputs to sxw files btw, if anyone is interested. |
| 18:56.12 | bigdog_ut | which is that dataw0lf |
| 18:56.25 | dataw0lf | phpdocwriter.sourceforge.net |
| 18:56.35 | bigdog_ut | cool..i might check it out |
| 18:56.54 | dataw0lf | Yeah, I might eventually use COM to output to word documents, but for right now sxw and pdf works. |
| 19:00.52 | dataw0lf | No need to inadvertently support MS's evil til I absolutely have to, I say. |
| 19:01.08 | bigdog_ut | or ever for that matter |
| 19:01.17 | bigdog_ut | oo is a great app anyways |
| 19:02.08 | dataw0lf | Agreed. |
| 19:06.27 | bigdog_ut | how many are attending the meeting tonight? |
| 19:11.29 | dataw0lf | if I can wrangle a ride from synic or tierra I might go. |
| 19:12.34 | macnewbold | so is tierra :) |
| 19:12.58 | macnewbold | my car seats 5, dataw0lf, but the back seat will be getting a little friendly if I fill it up |
| 19:13.08 | macnewbold | but you're welcome to come if you want, and if you've bathed recently ;) |
| 19:14.43 | dataw0lf | hehe. |
| 19:14.46 | dataw0lf | I'm a clean freak. |
| 19:14.56 | macnewbold | in that case, welcome to the carpool :) |
| 19:15.01 | dataw0lf | synic: I might just go over to your house then dude, to meet up with mac. |
| 19:15.07 | optikal | hah |
| 19:15.13 | synic | dataw0lf, I'll be at work. |
| 19:15.38 | dataw0lf | you're meeting him at your work? |
| 19:15.40 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: if you want to meet me at my work at 6pm (foothill village), we could go from there |
| 19:15.55 | macnewbold | then I'll be picking up three people while heading west on 3300 South |
| 19:16.06 | dataw0lf | Hm, I know not these places. |
| 19:16.30 | macnewbold | foothill village is about 23rd east and 1300 south |
| 19:16.30 | synic | dataw0lf, you should just take trax to our office to I can kick your arse at darts. |
| 19:16.35 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:16.38 | synic | oh wait, you don't do public transportation. |
| 19:16.44 | optikal | haha |
| 19:18.12 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: best place to meet us is either at my work at about 6pm (before I pick up the others) or at 6:30pm at synic's work, 3300 S 340 E (last stop before we get on I-15) |
| 19:18.40 | macnewbold | actually, synic's work is probably better, since I won't be coming clear back up to work after the meeting |
| 19:20.02 | optikal | hmm |
| 19:20.31 | macnewbold | so optikal, are you coming too? :) |
| 19:20.37 | optikal | possibly. |
| 19:20.47 | macnewbold | maybe we've got enough people for 2 car pools from the SLC delegation |
| 19:21.02 | optikal | Ill be leaving from Magna |
| 19:21.24 | optikal | or if someone doesnt mind hanging w/ me for an hour b4 the meeting, I can pick em up otw home.. coming from Bountiful |
| 19:21.30 | macnewbold | ah, so you're probably taking Bangerter most of the way or something |
| 19:22.00 | optikal | Somethin like that. |
| 19:23.14 | dataw0lf | synic: yeah, I guess I could get to your work around 6 to kick your ass at some darts. |
| 19:23.25 | dataw0lf | synic: and, you're right, I don't do public transportation. |
| 19:23.41 | macnewbold | cool, we can pick you up there, then, at about 6:30pm |
| 19:24.09 | macnewbold | (sorry to all riding with me for going so early... presenter trying not to be late to the meeting) |
| 19:24.10 | dataw0lf | yeah, bring some earplugs to block out synic's whining after I beat him at darts. |
| 19:24.16 | synic | lol |
| 19:24.41 | optikal | hehe |
| 19:24.50 | dataw0lf | you should see him play pool.. |
| 19:24.56 | optikal | haha |
| 19:25.03 | optikal | pools my game |
| 19:25.12 | dataw0lf | psh. |
| 19:25.32 | bigdog_ut | wps, i am hoping to be there tonight |
| 19:25.35 | optikal | My own cue and all. |
| 19:25.42 | synic | I never claimed to be good at pool :) |
| 19:25.46 | synic | I have my own darts, though |
| 19:25.55 | optikal | i got darts, as well.. just havent put it up since we moved. |
| 19:25.56 | macnewbold | mmm, pool |
| 19:26.07 | optikal | i suck at darts sober.. get a few beers in me, and ill play some rounds |
| 19:26.23 | macnewbold | sounds like we need to start up a UPHPU game night, and all play darts, pool, etc. |
| 19:26.24 | wps | great |
| 19:26.28 | optikal | same way with pool.. alcohol level increases, skill level increases. |
| 19:26.36 | optikal | oooh |
| 19:26.37 | macnewbold | hehe, yeah, just keep telling yourself that |
| 19:27.41 | macnewbold | although, /me usually tries to stay away from inebriated people throwing sharp objects, so darts is probably out of the questoin |
| 19:27.41 | synic | something about drunk dudes throwing pointy objects sounds iffy. |
| 19:27.50 | macnewbold | my thoughts exactly |
| 19:27.50 | synic | macnewbold, lol |
| 19:27.55 | optikal | haha |
| 19:28.23 | macnewbold | pool I can handle though. cues and balls are both pretty blunt, and easy to see coming |
| 19:28.47 | optikal | haha |
| 19:28.54 | optikal | just dont stand next to a pocket. |
| 19:28.57 | optikal | ive taught people that one. |
| 19:29.20 | dataw0lf | argh. |
| 19:29.43 | dataw0lf | just reminded me of my ex fiancee she's holding my two sticks as hostage too. |
| 19:32.51 | optikal | bleh |
| 19:32.56 | optikal | thats lame |
| 19:33.04 | dataw0lf | Yes indeed, brotha. |
| 19:33.17 | optikal | my cue isnt anything special, more sentimental.. had it for about 10yrs, given to me by an old friend. its straight as an arrow tho. |
| 19:34.53 | dataw0lf | I got one in the PX at Ft Bragg, then the other in Turkey with crimshaw stuff on it. it's purely ornamental, really. |
| 19:36.14 | optikal | ooh |
| 19:39.05 | wps | there's a party on the website |
| 19:39.14 | wps | I think that that is a record for logged in users |
| 19:39.29 | dataw0lf | byob ? |
| 19:39.35 | optikal | +1 |
| 19:40.27 | optikal | hehe |
| 19:40.48 | dataw0lf | +2 broadsword, flaming |
| 19:40.58 | optikal | hehe |
| 19:41.09 | optikal | +3 vorporal sword of ethereal |
| 19:42.07 | dataw0lf | psh |
| 19:42.07 | dataw0lf | +4 long sword of defending, holy avenger |
| 19:42.27 | optikal | u werent much of a d&d player, were you? =) |
| 19:42.53 | dataw0lf | yeah, fools, yeah. |
| 19:42.54 | optikal | ooh |
| 19:43.02 | optikal | erm. fears |
| 19:43.08 | dataw0lf | 100 ft radius 10d6 damage, no saving throw. |
| 19:43.12 | dataw0lf | like the death of a Balor. |
| 19:43.22 | optikal | oh really |
| 19:43.31 | dataw0lf | I'm really not as nerdy in real life, for all those who don't know me. |
| 19:43.40 | optikal | well.. well.. im perma hasted... and i do 9d6dmg with my +6 vorporal swords. |
| 19:43.53 | dataw0lf | I have stone skin, cast at 25th level. |
| 19:43.57 | optikal | not unless you have glasses on. =P |
| 19:44.05 | dataw0lf | your glasses on, remember that. |
| 19:44.10 | optikal | dude.. that aint shit for "vorporal". =P |
| 19:44.27 | optikal | err vorpal i think. |
| 19:44.27 | dataw0lf | 'vorpal' doesn't penetrate a stoneskin spell. |
| 19:44.47 | dataw0lf | don't question the D&D knowledge of dis man here. |
| 19:44.57 | optikal | haha |
| 19:45.00 | dataw0lf | I was a nerd for a whole three years. |
| 19:45.02 | optikal | have you seen my d&d collection? |
| 19:45.03 | dataw0lf | until I found girls. |
| 19:45.21 | dataw0lf | Dude, I still have every 2nd edition book you could imagine in storage. |
| 19:45.31 | dataw0lf | Every Planescape and Dark Sun book as well. |
| 19:45.46 | optikal | so do i |
| 19:45.47 | dataw0lf | The original gray FR boxed set... |
| 19:45.50 | optikal | but they're in my basement |
| 19:46.04 | optikal | i got all the class/race books |
| 19:46.08 | optikal | a couple hundred dice |
| 19:46.12 | optikal | craazy days. |
| 19:46.13 | dataw0lf | All the handbooks? yeah, I gots those too. |
| 19:46.19 | optikal | tierra has seen some of my collection |
| 19:46.24 | dataw0lf | he told me about it. |
| 19:46.28 | dataw0lf | No impressimo. |
| 19:46.30 | optikal | i even got the ninja and psionicists handbook |
| 19:46.37 | dataw0lf | I have those as well. |
| 19:46.38 | dataw0lf | PLUS |
| 19:46.46 | dataw0lf | the 'alternate' rules Cook came out with. |
| 19:46.50 | dataw0lf | Skills and Powers etc |
| 19:46.54 | optikal | i got that hah |
| 19:46.59 | optikal | tracy got me that |
| 19:47.12 | optikal | nice. we both got great collections, thats awesome |
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| 19:47.26 | optikal | and you dont think a magically enchanted vorpal sword can cut through stoneskin? |
| 19:47.43 | dataw0lf | I don't think so. |
| 19:47.58 | optikal | hmm. i shall have to read up, cause i tend to disagree |
| 19:48.14 | optikal | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vorpal&r=f |
| 19:48.38 | optikal | "An adj. meaning extremely sharp, usually so sharp as to cut through anything without any resistance whatsoever" |
| 19:48.45 | dataw0lf | yeah, I know. |
| 19:48.56 | dataw0lf | but that's why stoneskin was considered one of the most imbalanced spells. |
| 19:49.01 | optikal | interesting |
| 19:49.02 | dataw0lf | 4th level, yet blocked ANY physical attack. |
| 19:49.12 | optikal | ill have to read up on that. i love loopholes like that heh |
| 19:49.21 | optikal | amazing ive never known that, if you are right. |
| 19:49.22 | dataw0lf | stoneskin and magic missile are generally considered the most imbalanced spells in 2nd edition. |
| 19:49.43 | optikal | i played massive amounts of d&d in the day. |
| 19:50.04 | optikal | u ever try the council of wyrms? |
| 19:50.06 | optikal | i didnt care for it |
| 19:50.14 | optikal | but i digged the hella tight dragon comparison poster |
| 19:50.21 | dataw0lf | yeah, I didn't like that. |
| 19:50.28 | dataw0lf | I preferred Dark Sun most of my younger years. |
| 19:50.32 | optikal | nice |
| 19:50.38 | dataw0lf | when I started DMing I bought all the Planescape books. |
| 19:50.42 | optikal | never seen u as a d&d guy =) |
| 19:50.53 | dataw0lf | mostly cause of the art, I think Tony Diterlizzi is probably one of the greatest artists ever. |
| 19:50.59 | optikal | were u playin with Harm last sunday? |
| 19:51.10 | dataw0lf | No, I saw his rulebooks in the back of his car. |
| 19:51.15 | optikal | oh yeah.. i dont know artist names, but theres some bitchin planescape art |
| 19:51.19 | dataw0lf | I was like, 'hey, nice 3rd edition books in the back' |
| 19:51.25 | optikal | heh |
| 19:51.32 | dataw0lf | optikal: every piece of art in Planescape was done by DiTerlizzi |
| 19:51.38 | optikal | aah nice |
| 19:51.42 | optikal | figured as much, from yoru comment. |
| 19:52.02 | dataw0lf | optikal: but yeah, noone sees me as a RPer... or as a computer geek.. |
| 19:52.14 | optikal | yah.. u just look like a bitch |
| 19:52.22 | optikal | =P |
| 19:52.26 | dataw0lf | optikal: you should check out Fading Suns ... my favorite RPG |
| 19:52.34 | optikal | oh? never heard of it. *googles it* |
| 19:52.40 | dataw0lf | optikal: hm... this 'bitch' choked you out. |
| 19:52.42 | dataw0lf | fool. |
| 19:52.46 | optikal | haha. |
| 19:52.58 | optikal | ill be sure to 'choke' u out next time too, then. =P |
| 19:53.37 | optikal | hmm |
| 19:53.46 | optikal | not very popular, is it?... fading suns.. |
| 19:55.30 | dataw0lf | Not really. |
| 19:55.34 | dataw0lf | still the best rpg ever. |
| 19:55.39 | optikal | nice |
| 19:55.51 | optikal | ill have to check it later, in the middle of some code. |
| 19:55.56 | dataw0lf | it's like a Dune / Warhammer 40k cross. |
| 19:55.59 | optikal | time to chat, but not to read pages. =P |
| 19:56.03 | optikal | interesting |
| 19:56.11 | optikal | P-n-P RPG? |
| 19:56.16 | dataw0lf | yeah. |
| 19:56.19 | optikal | nice |
| 19:56.24 | dataw0lf | they came out with some crpgs for it |
| 19:56.42 | dataw0lf | I ran a popular mud based on it for a while, back in the dayz |
| 19:57.19 | optikal | muds.. ohman |
| 19:57.29 | optikal | been awhile since i played muds |
| 19:57.50 | dataw0lf | I never really played, I just liked programming em. |
| 19:57.59 | optikal | aah |
| 19:58.05 | dataw0lf | that's one of the reasons I really got into Linux when I was a young teenager. |
| 19:58.22 | optikal | nice |
| 20:00.08 | optikal | man |
| 20:00.16 | fungus | ~google dataw0lf |
| 20:00.20 | optikal | the other nite when u guys mentioned a c:s lan.. it got me thinkin |
| 20:01.51 | dataw0lf | about how I'm gonna own you? it's cool. |
| 20:01.58 | optikal | hah no |
| 20:02.01 | optikal | how it'd be pretty fun |
| 20:02.09 | optikal | i havent lan'd in forver |
| 20:02.33 | alphahawk | noter question is libxml(2)-devel anywhere on cd's? |
| 20:02.43 | alphahawk | oops wrong channel |
| 20:03.27 | dataw0lf | Python Cookbook! bbl |
| 20:04.28 | tierra|w | ~google tierra |
| 20:04.56 | tierra|w | hehe... it's good having a generic nick... none of the above have any relation to me |
| 20:05.01 | optikal | same |
| 20:05.06 | optikal | for optikal that is |
| 20:05.25 | alphahawk | ~google alphahawk |
| 20:05.52 | alphahawk | hmm not much on mine either |
| 20:06.10 | optikal | atleast i have optikal.org i suppose |
| 20:07.38 | tierra|w | heh... about forgot about this until Google mentioned something: http://sourceforge.net/projects/timap/ |
| 20:08.03 | optikal | ehehe nice |
| 20:09.41 | optikal | brb.. im goin 4 food |
| 20:12.45 | synic | ~google synic |
| 20:15.01 | dataw0lf | ~google synic is gay |
| 20:15.39 | synic | hehe, that second one actually has me in it. |
| 20:16.06 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 20:16.17 | dataw0lf | ~google dataw0lf is gay |
| 20:16.24 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 20:16.31 | dataw0lf | all those have me in it. |
| 20:43.35 | *** join/#uphpu alphahawk (~alphahawk@206.81.133.248) |
| 20:45.14 | fungus | Does anyone use, or have used Zend Studio? |
| 20:46.06 | wps | I use it every day |
| 20:46.35 | wps | hands down the best IDE that I have every seen or used |
| 21:06.15 | fungus | wow, I just installed a trial edition. It is pretty cool. Too bad it costs so much. :( |
| 21:06.57 | wps | get your employer to buy it :) |
| 21:07.44 | optikal | hehe |
| 21:08.05 | fungus | Hmm, I might be able to swing that. He just paid for Dreamweaver Studio for our web designer... |
| 21:08.19 | fungus | I should get cool stuff too. |
| 21:08.28 | wps | he spent his money on the wrong product |
| 21:08.55 | optikal | yeah |
| 21:09.14 | optikal | Most recent investment we made, was Adobe CS Suite for me. |
| 21:09.33 | synic | jedit! it's free, and cool. http://linuxhelp.homeunix.com/jeditphp.png |
| 21:09.35 | fungus | Our web designer likes the dreamweaver stuff, plus he does ColdFusion crap. |
| 21:09.44 | optikal | Dreamweaver is of the devil. |
| 21:10.06 | fungus | so is ColdFusion. |
| 21:10.13 | wps | people still use ColdFusion? |
| 21:10.13 | optikal | yeah. |
| 21:10.14 | optikal | hah |
| 21:10.34 | optikal | synic: does it to like tabbed editing? |
| 21:10.54 | synic | optikal, http://linuxhelp.homeunix.com/jedit.png |
| 21:11.05 | optikal | aah nice |
| 21:11.06 | optikal | =) |
| 21:11.07 | fungus | Yeah, we have a few clients on CF still. Can't get rid of em for some reason. |
| 21:11.25 | synic | optikal, has like 80 plugins you can install from within jedit itself. Tabbed editing is one of them |
| 21:11.27 | wps | I tried jedit once, but it was really clunky |
| 21:11.40 | optikal | what does everyone here use? |
| 21:11.40 | synic | jedit clunky? |
| 21:11.41 | synic | wow. |
| 21:11.48 | optikal | obv. synic uses jedit.. |
| 21:11.53 | fungus | Can jedit do auto-completion, analyze your code for possible bugs/security holes? |
| 21:11.55 | wps | yeah, like most java apps |
| 21:11.55 | synic | wps, you mean slow? |
| 21:12.01 | wps | I hate java apps |
| 21:12.03 | synic | ZDE is written in Java |
| 21:12.03 | wps | yeah, slow |
| 21:12.08 | wps | I know |
| 21:12.21 | wps | ZDE is the most responsive Java app that I have use, but I still hate that it is a java app |
| 21:12.34 | synic | fungus, for some languages - available in plugins. I don't use them, though. |
| 21:13.12 | fungus | cool, I am used to emacs with php-mode, so this trial of ZDE is looking pretty sweet. |
| 21:13.13 | synic | actually, wps, jedit was clunky on my mac. |
| 21:13.24 | synic | dunno why |
| 21:13.24 | wps | that's where I used it... on a mac |
| 21:13.33 | wps | perhaps it's snappy on linux |
| 21:14.36 | fungus | I probably won't stick with ZDE, mostly because they don't provide the source, and don't have a FreeBSD version. |
| 21:14.42 | synic | yeah, it is. I can search a 1505 file project for the letter A and it's done in 3 seconds. |
| 21:15.00 | optikal | nice |
| 21:16.23 | wps | dang... you guys remember us welcoming our 200th member just a week or two ago |
| 21:16.25 | wps | ? |
| 21:16.30 | wps | now we're are 213 |
| 21:16.55 | synic | cool |
| 21:17.21 | synic | what's the average amount that show up at the meetings? |
| 21:17.37 | wps | 15-20 |
| 21:22.40 | optikal | installing plugin at the moment |
| 21:22.50 | optikal | synic, whats the tabbed browser plugin? ive become blind it seems |
| 21:23.00 | synic | optikal, bufferselector is the better one |
| 21:23.01 | dataw0lf | Buffer Selector |
| 21:23.09 | optikal | synic: much thanks |
| 21:25.29 | fungus | sweet, there is even a FreeBSD port for jedit. |
| 21:25.53 | wps | it's Java... shouldn't it run on anything? |
| 21:26.03 | optikal | +i |
| 21:26.19 | fungus | ZDE won't run on FreeBSD. no source, no port. |
| 21:26.21 | synic | some good plugins: WhiteSpace (for cutting of trailing whitespace when saving, tabbifying spaces), BufferSelector, ProjectViewer |
| 21:26.43 | synic | PerlBrowse if you're forced to use Perl |
| 21:26.47 | wps | right, fungus, I was referring to jEdit |
| 21:27.25 | fungus | I was just using ZDE as an example where java != portable. |
| 21:27.46 | wps | ah, I see |
| 21:28.34 | synic | fungus, but you shouldn't have to port it |
| 21:28.40 | synic | can't you just download and run it? |
| 21:31.48 | fungus | nope, it is a compiled binary. |
| 21:32.03 | synic | oh, and the look and feel plugin is cool if you dislike the default metal theme |
| 21:32.15 | synic | fungus, compiled java binaries are supposed to be platform independant |
| 21:34.00 | fungus | I'm no java expert, I just assume it won't run because they provide different binaries for Linux, Windows, and MacOSX. |
| 21:34.18 | synic | maybe it's not pure java |
| 21:35.36 | dataw0lf | ugh, I thought ZDE was cool for a month or so. |
| 21:35.52 | dataw0lf | I don't like uber full super duper featured IDEs. |
| 21:36.05 | dataw0lf | gimme some syntax highlighting. |
| 21:36.46 | optikal | yikes. i needa change the highlighting colors |
| 21:36.55 | synic | lol, yeah, the defaults suxx0r |
| 21:36.59 | optikal | baby blue and pink is NOT right for html highlights |
| 21:37.02 | fungus | I liked the auto-complete of ZDE, and the built-in debugger, but that is fluff I can live w/o. |
| 21:37.45 | fungus | Also, I feel better morally for using _free_ software. |
| 21:38.56 | dataw0lf | yeah, same here. |
| 21:38.59 | dataw0lf | vim / jedit |
| 21:39.15 | macnewbold | xemacs all the way, boys |
| 21:39.17 | optikal | yeah |
| 21:39.26 | dataw0lf | eww. |
| 21:39.36 | dataw0lf | If I had time to learn a new OS, sure. |
| 21:40.07 | macnewbold | at least with the emacsen, when you type, it shows up, even if you're not in "insert mode" first :) |
| 21:40.17 | dataw0lf | hehe. |
| 21:40.38 | optikal | hehehe |
| 21:40.38 | macnewbold | #emacs is probably empty, cause it's so self explanatory that nobody needs much help with it unless they're really advanced |
| 21:41.02 | optikal | pico! |
| 21:41.04 | optikal | hah |
| 21:41.24 | dataw0lf | I'll end up using pico/nano every now and then. |
| 21:41.32 | optikal | i dont mind nano, i like it |
| 21:41.36 | wps | I have fond memories of starting out with pico |
| 21:41.36 | optikal | but i mostly use vi |
| 21:41.42 | optikal | wps: same here, lol. |
| 21:41.44 | *** join/#uphpu jakea (~jakea@jamestkirk.byu.edu) |
| 21:41.46 | optikal | pico and pine. lol |
| 21:41.47 | dataw0lf | I started out with vi. |
| 21:41.59 | dataw0lf | vi and mutt for life. |
| 21:42.03 | wps | I was sooo scared of vi |
| 21:42.09 | optikal | hah |
| 21:42.15 | optikal | I wasnt scared, i was just confused for awhile |
| 21:42.28 | wps | I absolutely love vi now though |
| 21:42.28 | dataw0lf | I was scared of emacs. |
| 21:42.30 | dataw0lf | I still am. |
| 21:42.30 | optikal | it was 'so' different |
| 21:43.08 | optikal | if you know vi, you can do shit pretty fast.. if you dont, your SOL |
| 21:43.34 | dataw0lf | it's not very hard. |
| 21:44.00 | optikal | sorry. =) |
| 21:44.45 | wps | thanks |
| 21:47.23 | macnewbold | optikal++ for being cooperative :) |
| 21:47.38 | wps | good call, macnewbold |
| 21:47.41 | macnewbold | wps++ for wanting clean language |
| 21:47.46 | wps | ~optikal++ |
| 21:47.55 | macnewbold | ~karma optikal |
| 21:47.55 | jbot | optikal has karma of 1 |
| 21:48.04 | optikal | So does ++mean I get a cookie and a coke at the meeting or what? |
| 21:48.05 | macnewbold | doh, I missed the ~ |
| 21:48.08 | macnewbold | ~wps++ |
| 21:48.08 | wps | (requires the tilde) |
| 21:48.12 | optikal | =P |
| 21:48.16 | macnewbold | ~optikal++ |
| 21:48.22 | macnewbold | ~karma optikal |
| 21:48.22 | jbot | optikal has karma of 2 |
| 21:48.30 | macnewbold | ~karma |
| 21:48.30 | jbot | macnewbold has karma of 5 |
| 21:48.41 | wps | wow |
| 21:48.43 | macnewbold | karma is a fun way of rewarding each other when we do good stuff :) |
| 21:48.50 | optikal | aah |
| 21:48.55 | macnewbold | (someone's apparently been stuffing my ballot box... wasn't me) |
| 21:49.09 | wps | ~karma wps |
| 21:49.09 | jbot | wps has karma of 4 |
| 21:49.11 | wps | oooo |
| 21:49.20 | fungus | ~karma fungus |
| 21:49.20 | jbot | fungus has karma of 2 |
| 21:49.56 | fungus | ~hug everyone |
| 21:49.58 | jbot | ACTION hugs everyone |
| 21:50.11 | optikal | yumm. an artificial hug. |
| 21:50.12 | wps | okay... now it's getting a little too cozy in here |
| 21:50.22 | dataw0lf | *ahem* |
| 21:53.33 | bigdog_ut | wps, you around? |
| 21:53.37 | wps | yup |
| 21:53.50 | wps | we were all just in here bonding |
| 21:53.56 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 21:54.19 | bigdog_ut | i can imagine with dataw0lf, fungus, synic and tierra|w ...quite the crew |
| 21:54.55 | bigdog_ut | wps, i dont think i will be able to make it |
| 21:55.17 | wps | bummer |
| 21:55.23 | wps | the books at your house? |
| 21:55.33 | bigdog_ut | yeah...you can get them this friday |
| 21:55.47 | wps | k |
| 21:55.56 | bigdog_ut | how many u still have? |
| 21:56.08 | wps | i wonder if there is anyone coming from kaysville or farther |
| 21:56.10 | wps | doubt it |
| 21:56.14 | wps | I don't have any to give away |
| 21:56.20 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 21:56.22 | wps | I only have the ones that are "in the library" |
| 21:56.31 | bigdog_ut | that is fine |
| 21:56.50 | bigdog_ut | we are still lacking on the reviews too |
| 21:56.57 | wps | yeah |
| 21:57.10 | macnewbold | the book, that is |
| 21:57.15 | bigdog_ut | how is it? |
| 21:57.47 | macnewbold | looks great, need to start reading soon :) |
| 21:58.03 | bigdog_ut | what, you have not started yet? |
| 21:58.07 | dataw0lf | I have quite a few books, that I could review for you guys. |
| 21:58.28 | bigdog_ut | that would be great dataw0lf |
| 21:58.33 | wps | that's most of my problem, bigdog_ut (with my missing review) |
| 21:58.42 | optikal | yeah I got quite a few too |
| 21:59.05 | wps | I have barely opened the book |
| 21:59.14 | bigdog_ut | what is the problem wps ? |
| 21:59.31 | bigdog_ut | reading them |
| 21:59.39 | wps | time to read/look through the book so that you have something to write the review on |
| 21:59.54 | tierra|w | I like how you have the "Powered by FreeBSD" tag on your UofU CS "hidden" links page even though I was pretty sure the UofU CS webserver isn't FreeBSD |
| 22:00.21 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 22:00.37 | macnewbold | tierra|w: yes, I figured I built the pages on freebsd, so that pretty much counts :) |
| 22:00.45 | tierra|w | haha |
| 22:00.55 | optikal | I have "MySQLd mSQL","DHTML and CSS","PHP Developers Dictionary","XHTML Black Book","HTML and CGI unleashed" |
| 22:01.02 | optikal | erm thats & mSQL |
| 22:01.35 | bigdog_ut | if you guys like the next meeting we should have some new books for review |
| 22:01.58 | bigdog_ut | we get them cause the publisher wants us to write reviews |
| 22:02.23 | synic | bigdog_ut, just php books? |
| 22:02.39 | bigdog_ut | nope |
| 22:02.49 | bigdog_ut | i can get anyone from the following publishers |
| 22:03.06 | bigdog_ut | http://www.uphpu.org/staticpages/index.php?page=20040522142709651 |
| 22:03.31 | synic | wow |
| 22:03.39 | bigdog_ut | i get tons of open source and os types too...that is how macnewbold got the freebsd book |
| 22:03.43 | bigdog_ut | and that is a nice one |
| 22:03.58 | tierra|w | hmm... I can get from Syngress |
| 22:04.01 | bigdog_ut | synic, email me the title isbn and url to the book |
| 22:04.07 | macnewbold | yeah, it's _the_ freebsd book... they've done lots of updates to it |
| 22:04.21 | bigdog_ut | hardback too |
| 22:04.38 | tierra|w | wow... hardback |
| 22:04.46 | bigdog_ut | it was a real nice book |
| 22:04.49 | macnewbold | yes, very nice |
| 22:04.50 | bigdog_ut | i almost keep it |
| 22:04.57 | synic | bigdog_ut, ok, let me find one that looks good |
| 22:04.59 | bigdog_ut | but i decided macnewbold would read it |
| 22:05.02 | macnewbold | retail $60 us, $87 canadian |
| 22:05.04 | macnewbold | :) |
| 22:05.09 | optikal | nice |
| 22:05.14 | bigdog_ut | but i should have keep it |
| 22:05.14 | macnewbold | yes, and I'm going to prove you right about that real soon, bigdog_ut :) |
| 22:05.21 | macnewbold | you wanna borrow it ;) |
| 22:05.34 | bigdog_ut | no..i got a killer linux one |
| 22:05.46 | bigdog_ut | im waiting for the gentoo book |
| 22:05.54 | bigdog_ut | synic, you have my email right? |
| 22:05.57 | optikal | ooh |
| 22:06.00 | bigdog_ut | shoot me an email witht he info |
| 22:06.48 | synic | yeah |
| 22:08.03 | dataw0lf | Anyone own the Linux Administration Handbook? |
| 22:08.13 | dataw0lf | probably the best Linux text I've ever read. |
| 22:08.25 | bigdog_ut | it that the green one? |
| 22:08.31 | dataw0lf | Yeah. |
| 22:08.31 | bigdog_ut | green book i mean? |
| 22:08.43 | bigdog_ut | i have heard that from alot of people |
| 22:08.46 | bigdog_ut | never read it |
| 22:08.52 | dataw0lf | you're not going to the meeting? |
| 22:08.55 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, who is the pub on it |
| 22:09.06 | bigdog_ut | no i have to take my girls out to something |
| 22:09.10 | dataw0lf | Prentice Hall |
| 22:09.20 | bigdog_ut | i might see if i can get some copies |
| 22:09.26 | synic | bigdog_ut, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/0974514055/index.html |
| 22:09.29 | dataw0lf | Cool. |
| 22:09.33 | synic | hrmm, wait, that's not published by oreilly |
| 22:09.36 | dataw0lf | I can bring it to the meeting if anyone else wants to check it out. |
| 22:09.39 | bigdog_ut | synic, email that too me please |
| 22:10.06 | synic | bigdog_ut, does it matter that it's not published by oreilly? |
| 22:10.11 | synic | it's on their site... |
| 22:10.25 | bigdog_ut | is it a book though? |
| 22:10.29 | bigdog_ut | or pdf? |
| 22:10.40 | synic | it's a book |
| 22:11.09 | bigdog_ut | if oreilly has it then i can email our contact and see if we can get it |
| 22:11.18 | synic | k, I'll email you the info. |
| 22:11.21 | bigdog_ut | now please, please make sure to write a review |
| 22:11.46 | bigdog_ut | then we can continue to get books |
| 22:12.08 | synic | I can do that |
| 22:12.14 | bigdog_ut | put it this way i have not bought a computer book in 3 years cause i get them from user groups |
| 22:12.21 | bigdog_ut | but i do write reviews |
| 22:12.39 | bigdog_ut | that is how i got in contact with many of the publisher companies |
| 22:12.58 | bigdog_ut | wps, how many books you think we have gotten total for our members? |
| 22:13.12 | wps | wow... hard question |
| 22:13.17 | dataw0lf | http://www.phptr.com/title/0130084662 |
| 22:13.25 | wps | 60? |
| 22:13.33 | bigdog_ut | im thinking about 80 or more |
| 22:13.42 | jakea | wow UPHPU is up to 60? |
| 22:13.43 | wps | yeah, maybe even 100 |
| 22:13.54 | jakea | UUG just broke 50 |
| 22:13.56 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 22:14.05 | jakea | <---- UUG Librarian |
| 22:14.29 | bigdog_ut | i think we have gotten tons |
| 22:14.38 | wps | we don't have all of those in our library though |
| 22:14.42 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, can you email me that |
| 22:14.44 | wps | we only have about five in our library |
| 22:14.49 | wps | we have just been handing them out |
| 22:14.52 | bigdog_ut | yeah we give |
| 22:15.17 | dataw0lf | apparently I should go to more meetings. |
| 22:15.20 | jakea | if we get dups, we'd give |
| 22:15.25 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, this is a nice one http://www.phptr.com/title/0131453483 |
| 22:15.34 | wps | that's our new policy, jakea |
| 22:15.36 | bigdog_ut | we get dups all the time |
| 22:15.44 | wps | we just started that two months ago though |
| 22:15.48 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: heh, I own that one too. |
| 22:15.50 | bigdog_ut | so we keep one and give rest away right |
| 22:15.56 | bigdog_ut | yeah that is killer |
| 22:16.33 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, i just got this one http://www.phptr.com/title/0131456954 |
| 22:16.51 | bigdog_ut | and this one http://www.phptr.com/title/013147572X |
| 22:17.32 | dataw0lf | don't have either of those. |
| 22:17.50 | bigdog_ut | i want this one -> http://www.phptr.com/title/0130879401 |
| 22:18.29 | dataw0lf | favorite Linux programming book (I've owned every edition) : http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTitle/productCd-0764544977.html |
| 22:18.53 | dataw0lf | I got that last one bigdog_ut, if you want to borrow it sometime. |
| 22:19.13 | bigdog_ut | i got to get you the one from a local hacker in utah that is killer |
| 22:19.27 | dataw0lf | I'm big into low level programming. |
| 22:19.34 | macnewbold | wps: website party: 5 real users, 10 guests |
| 22:19.44 | bigdog_ut | yeah that assembly one is looks good |
| 22:19.46 | macnewbold | it gets a lot more traffic than I would have guessed |
| 22:19.58 | wps | yeah, site the timer to 30 minutes |
| 22:20.16 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: Have you read the Stealing the Network series? |
| 22:20.31 | bigdog_ut | nope, how is it? |
| 22:20.39 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: really enjoyable. |
| 22:20.55 | dataw0lf | real life meets fiction, it's pretty cool. |
| 22:21.01 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 22:21.12 | tierra|w | %http://www.syngress.com/catalog/?pid=3190 |
| 22:21.16 | tierra|w | http://www.syngress.com/catalog/?pid=3190 |
| 22:21.19 | bigdog_ut | i love wps pic on uphpu |
| 22:21.51 | dataw0lf | http://www.syngress.com/catalog/?pid=2490 |
| 22:22.21 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: whoa, that's Grifter's book huh? |
| 22:22.38 | tierra|w | dataw0lf, yeah |
| 22:22.40 | bigdog_ut | tierra|w, do you know a contact at syngress that we can use to get review books |
| 22:22.42 | bigdog_ut | ? |
| 22:22.59 | bigdog_ut | i wouldnt ming ethereal book |
| 22:23.00 | dataw0lf | heh, since his boss is writing a book for em, I'd say so. |
| 22:23.02 | tierra|w | I know the author of that book I linked, who can get whatever books from syngress |
| 22:23.12 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 22:23.15 | tierra|w | yeah, he's my boss actually |
| 22:23.16 | tierra|w | hehe |
| 22:23.26 | optikal | hehe yah |
| 22:23.31 | bigdog_ut | nessues book looks cool |
| 22:23.53 | tierra|w | he could probably get Syngress hooked up with UPHPU |
| 22:24.11 | bigdog_ut | that would be sweet...wps you getting that |
| 22:24.18 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, you do much python? |
| 22:24.27 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: oh yeah. |
| 22:24.44 | bigdog_ut | i know a guy that is looking for a python guru in slc |
| 22:25.03 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: Really? What type of work? |
| 22:25.12 | bigdog_ut | python...bro |
| 22:25.27 | bigdog_ut | apps in python and webstuff in python |
| 22:25.39 | tierra|w | much wxPython? |
| 22:25.55 | bigdog_ut | i think mostly web based for now |
| 22:26.16 | dataw0lf | Hm, yeah, send me his info at digitalsuicide@gmail.com if you could. |
| 22:26.44 | bigdog_ut | here is the company website: www.silentwhistle.com |
| 22:26.47 | bigdog_ut | will do |
| 22:27.07 | dataw0lf | Oh yeah, I think I briefly saw that in the mailing list on both uphpu and sllug |
| 22:27.12 | bigdog_ut | i meet with the ceo about a position there and decided that i did not want ot commute |
| 22:27.17 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 22:27.22 | dataw0lf | Where in SLC is it at? |
| 22:27.44 | bigdog_ut | cant remember...we went to lunch at the gateway so i did not see the office |
| 22:28.01 | dataw0lf | I'm sure I can find it on the site. |
| 22:28.12 | bigdog_ut | y |
| 22:28.18 | optikal | Mailing Address: |
| 22:28.18 | optikal | Silent Whistle, LLC |
| 22:28.18 | optikal | 9690 S. 300 W. |
| 22:28.18 | optikal | Sandy, UT 84070 |
| 22:29.18 | tierra|w | a bit of a commute, not bad though |
| 22:29.23 | dataw0lf | Not too bad. |
| 22:29.30 | bigdog_ut | yeah...he is looking for someone with talent so if figure i pass you a bone and you can see how it is |
| 22:29.36 | optikal | similar to the commute i make |
| 22:29.41 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: Appreciate it. |
| 22:30.01 | bigdog_ut | they just cant afford me...you know how it is |
| 22:30.07 | tierra|w | hehe |
| 22:30.08 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, sent |
| 22:30.09 | dataw0lf | hehe, yeah. |
| 22:30.13 | dataw0lf | I'm sure they can afford me. |
| 22:30.16 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 22:30.17 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 22:30.40 | bigdog_ut | i tried to get contact work but no go...he wants in house |
| 22:30.48 | bigdog_ut | it is a startup though |
| 22:30.55 | bigdog_ut | could be good or bad |
| 22:31.24 | bigdog_ut | so who is going tonight...i really want to go and see everyone |
| 22:31.32 | dataw0lf | I am. |
| 22:31.36 | bigdog_ut | synic, you going? |
| 22:31.41 | dataw0lf | yeah, he's going. |
| 22:31.45 | bigdog_ut | tierra|w, you too |
| 22:32.00 | optikal | i am |
| 22:32.03 | tierra|w | I am |
| 22:32.06 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 22:32.18 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, wish he was not going |
| 22:32.39 | tierra|w | yeah, working startup right now... not in the best position, but it works for now |
| 22:35.46 | dataw0lf | tierra|w is going, so it could have devastating consequences. |
| 22:35.56 | tierra|w | haha |
| 22:36.22 | dataw0lf | he's one scary dude. |
| 22:36.39 | tierra|w | depends, is bigdog_ut talking about bringing his kid down with him, or talking about him coming back to his kid with a black eye? |
| 22:37.16 | dataw0lf | what, you're going to beat up his kid now? |
| 22:37.37 | bigdog_ut | tierra|w, has issues...perhaps the meeting is good for him |
| 22:37.42 | tierra|w | no, but could you imagine the impression of your dad being beat down... |
| 22:37.51 | tierra|w | haha |
| 22:38.27 | bigdog_ut | no not really...the bigdog's daddy is chuck norris...lol |
| 22:38.39 | tierra|w | well, I |
| 22:38.53 | tierra|w | I won't know for a while unless you come tonight |
| 22:39.16 | dataw0lf | and can't spell stutter as well. |
| 22:39.49 | dataw0lf | you forgot 'like a girl' |
| 22:39.56 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 22:40.16 | dataw0lf | we don't hate each other as much as it sounds. |
| 22:40.29 | tierra|w | we hate each other more than this |
| 22:40.30 | macnewbold | I hope not... I've got to spend an hour with the two of you in the car tonight :) |
| 22:40.37 | tierra|w | haha |
| 22:40.55 | macnewbold | the driver will be the one constantly asking "Are we there yet?" |
| 22:40.59 | dataw0lf | I'm alot easier to get along with in real life versus IRC. |
| 22:41.05 | optikal | heh |
| 22:41.20 | dataw0lf | The evil dataw0lf comes out on the internet. |
| 22:41.47 | tierra|w | it's true... a history on #linuxhelp will do that to you... |
| 22:42.10 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 22:42.37 | dataw0lf | a history on multiple #linuxhelps and various help channels. |
| 22:43.29 | dataw0lf | I just need a macro that says 'Don't argue with me! You're wrong, I'm right.' |
| 22:43.54 | dataw0lf | 'If you googled before you tried to argue with me, you'd know this!' |
| 22:44.06 | tierra|w | macnewbold, you have a couple example file formats your going to go over the best ways to parse? |
| 22:44.34 | macnewbold | I don't yet, but we could... have an example in mind? |
| 22:44.55 | tierra|w | hmm... let me look around... log files are always fun |
| 22:45.01 | dataw0lf | argh. |
| 22:45.06 | dataw0lf | don't take my log file parsing thunder. |
| 22:45.18 | macnewbold | feel free to email me a snippet of something |
| 22:45.27 | macnewbold | and we can come up with a regex for it in the meeting |
| 22:45.34 | macnewbold | mac at macnewbold.com |
| 22:45.39 | tierra|w | alright |
| 22:45.58 | macnewbold | thanks! |
| 22:46.08 | macnewbold | ~tierra|w++ |
| 22:47.38 | dataw0lf | ~karma tierra|w |
| 22:47.38 | jbot | tierra|w has karma of 1 |
| 22:47.56 | tierra|w | ~karma tierra |
| 22:47.56 | jbot | tierra has neutral karma |
| 22:48.16 | dataw0lf | ~karma dataw0lf |
| 22:48.16 | jbot | dataw0lf has neutral karma |
| 22:48.23 | dataw0lf | psh, I have negative karma. |
| 22:55.49 | macnewbold | ~dataw0lf-- |
| 22:55.55 | macnewbold | now you do :) |
| 22:55.57 | dataw0lf | woot |
| 22:56.02 | optikal | haha |
| 22:56.03 | synic | ~whaleslap dataw0lf |
| 22:56.06 | jbot | ACTION slaps dataw0lf upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 22:56.06 | dataw0lf | ~karma dataw0lf |
| 22:56.06 | jbot | dataw0lf has karma of -1 |
| 22:56.06 | tierra|w | haha |
| 22:56.14 | dataw0lf | ~lart synic |
| 22:56.16 | macnewbold | ~fish synic |
| 22:56.18 | jbot | ACTION slaps synic around with a large trout |
| 23:11.45 | macnewbold | ~jbot++ |
| 23:11.57 | macnewbold | ~karma jbot |
| 23:11.57 | jbot | jbot has karma of 4 |
| 23:12.00 | macnewbold | ~karma ibot |
| 23:12.00 | jbot | ibot has karma of 4 |
| 23:24.36 | *** join/#uphpu beandog (~sdibb@403238C8.ptr.dia.nextlink.net) |
| 23:30.26 | macnewbold | beandog: nice work on the LDSOSS list lately... I've been reading a bunch of your posts |
| 23:31.42 | beandog | Oh |
| 23:31.44 | beandog | Thanks |
| 23:31.46 | beandog | What'd I do |
| 23:31.48 | beandog | The scriptures? |
| 23:32.27 | macnewbold | I think the ones I saw were in the discussions about the church web site |
| 23:32.49 | beandog | oh |
| 23:32.51 | beandog | what about it? |
| 23:35.11 | macnewbold | so is there anyone in the room who is _not_ planning on coming to the meeting tonight? (other than jbot and ChanServ) |
| 23:35.29 | tierra|w | jbot isn't going?! |
| 23:35.33 | tierra|w | why not? |
| 23:35.37 | optikal | heh |
| 23:35.44 | beandog | macnewbold: me |
| 23:35.45 | wps | jbot goes out drinking every night |
| 23:35.54 | beandog | Im too lazy / tired |
| 23:35.57 | macnewbold | :( |
| 23:35.58 | beandog | but I might come. |
| 23:36.00 | wps | jbot, are you an alcoholic? |
| 23:36.03 | dataw0lf | where at? I might've bought him a shot. |
| 23:36.04 | beandog | If theres donuts |
| 23:36.10 | macnewbold | I understand the tired part though |
| 23:36.15 | wps | jbot, do you drink? |
| 23:36.17 | jbot | yes, I drink. |
| 23:36.20 | macnewbold | we can make sure the donuts are in attendance |
| 23:36.23 | wps | see. told you. |
| 23:36.23 | tierra|w | haha |
| 23:36.31 | dataw0lf | hm |
| 23:36.34 | macnewbold | jbot: are you high? |
| 23:36.36 | dataw0lf | jbot, how much do you drink? |
| 23:36.38 | wps | jbot, where were you last weekend? |
| 23:36.40 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 23:36.45 | dataw0lf | poor guy. |
| 23:36.47 | tierra|w | too much for him to handle |
| 23:36.48 | optikal | interrogation 101 |
| 23:36.48 | dataw0lf | we're interrogating him now. |
| 23:37.07 | dataw0lf | reminds me of my ex fiancee. |
| 23:37.26 | wps | jbot, do you have a girlfriend? |
| 23:37.28 | jbot | yes, I have a girlfriend. |
| 23:37.33 | wps | jbot, who is your girlfriend? |
| 23:37.35 | jbot | rumour has it, jbot's girlfriend is macnewbold |
| 23:37.39 | beandog | LOL |
| 23:37.40 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 23:38.48 | macnewbold | ? |
| 23:38.54 | wps | :) |
| 23:38.58 | wps | I have no idea where you got that |
| 23:39.06 | tierra|w | to jbot |
| 23:39.06 | wps | where he got that |
| 23:39.22 | macnewbold | ~wade |
| 23:39.23 | jbot | i heard wade is Mr. Sexy Pants |
| 23:39.27 | macnewbold | ~wade's wife |
| 23:39.28 | jbot | it has been said that wade's wife is Mrs. Sexy Pants |
| 23:39.37 | macnewbold | hehe, those never get old |
| 23:39.41 | wps | ~wade's kid |
| 23:39.42 | jbot | i heard wade's kid is Junior Sexy Pants |
| 23:40.09 | tierra|w | ~bigdog_ut |
| 23:40.12 | jbot | somebody said bigdog_ut was a big dog who turns around three times before falling asleep. in a van down by the river, or wants to be "Mullet-Man" -> professional up front, but one hell of a party in the back. |
| 23:40.30 | wps | ~bubbles |
| 23:40.31 | jbot | bubbles is probably Michael Jackson's "monkey" |
| 23:40.46 | wps | that's one of my favorites |
| 23:40.50 | tierra|w | ~tierra |
| 23:40.51 | jbot | somebody said tierra was dirt |
| 23:40.54 | tierra|w | ~tierra|w |
| 23:40.56 | jbot | well, tierra|w is pretty CLI oriented |
| 23:40.56 | wps | :) |
| 23:41.23 | optikal | heh |
| 23:41.56 | tierra|w | ~optikal |
| 23:42.03 | tierra|w | nothing yet... |
| 23:42.11 | optikal | yah. heh |
| 23:42.18 | optikal | 1 day in here tho. =P |
| 23:42.52 | tierra|w | how long have I been hanging around here now without going to a single meeting? |
| 23:43.13 | dataw0lf | ~dataw0lf |
| 23:43.22 | tierra|w | been a few months at least |
| 23:43.30 | optikal | aah |
| 23:45.34 | beandog | heh |
| 23:45.47 | beandog | Not to knock macnewbold's meeting or anything, but when are we gonna have one on OOP in php5? |
| 23:45.48 | optikal | woot. 10mins |
| 23:45.49 | beandog | I suck at it. |
| 23:46.00 | macnewbold | :) beandog, we already did :) |
| 23:46.04 | beandog | I knew it. |
| 23:46.15 | macnewbold | Adam Trachtenburg, author of the PHP 5 book, came and gave it |
| 23:46.20 | macnewbold | flew in just to talk to us |
| 23:46.25 | optikal | wow nice |
| 23:46.43 | macnewbold | yeah, only catch was he had to talk about ebay developer network too, so they'd pay for the trip :) |
| 23:46.44 | beandog | is it ont he website somewhere? |
| 23:47.08 | macnewbold | should be in there as a past event, if not more. I think it was Oct. or Nov., IIRC |
| 23:47.35 | beandog | wow |
| 23:47.37 | beandog | how did I miss that |
| 23:47.53 | macnewbold | might have a story or two about it too |
| 23:48.28 | beandog | So, donuts tonight? :D |
| 23:48.48 | macnewbold | ah, it was october |
| 23:48.52 | macnewbold | http://uphpu.org/article.php?story=2004101412393620 |
| 23:49.09 | macnewbold | if you're coming, and bringing donuts, then yes, there will be donuts ;) |
| 23:49.46 | beandog | Hmm, thas what I thought it was. Didnt see any notes tho. :T |
| 23:49.48 | dataw0lf | http://uphpu.org/users.php?mode=profile&uid=15 hehe |
| 23:49.49 | macnewbold | in all seriousness, if it will increase attendance, (i.e. you'll come), then I'll get my boss to sponsor donuts tonight. |
| 23:49.53 | dataw0lf | synic, you're a dork dude. |
| 23:50.09 | macnewbold | wps: how many people do you think we'll have at the meeting? (i.e. how many donuts do we need?) |
| 23:50.26 | beandog | macnewbold: no worries, Im coming anyway |
| 23:50.29 | synic | dataw0lf, but I dork it up with style. |
| 23:50.34 | beandog | Do you work at Linux Networx? |
| 23:50.57 | wps | hmm... probably 16 |
| 23:51.06 | dataw0lf | synic: true. |
| 23:51.10 | wps | maybe twenty if we're lucky |
| 23:51.15 | dataw0lf | synic: dork + style still == dork |
| 23:52.21 | dataw0lf | did anyone want to look at that Linux Adminstration Handbook? |
| 23:52.41 | optikal | yeah, bring it |
| 23:53.16 | dataw0lf | okie |
| 23:58.30 | macnewbold | beandog: pong |
