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| 15:28.30 | spiderbiter | good morning macnewbold |
| 15:37.48 | macnewbold | morning spiderbiter |
| 15:46.51 | spiderbiter | Hey macnewbold .... |
| 15:47.11 | spiderbiter | SELECT |
| 15:47.13 | spiderbiter | q.QuestionID as QID, |
| 15:47.14 | spiderbiter | q.Correct_AnswerID as AID, |
| 15:47.16 | spiderbiter | tr.AnswerID as guess, |
| 15:47.17 | spiderbiter | (q.Correct_AnswerID = tr.AnswerID) as Correct |
| 15:47.19 | spiderbiter | FROM test_results tr |
| 15:47.20 | spiderbiter | LEFT JOIN questions q |
| 15:47.22 | spiderbiter | ON tr.QuestionID = q.QuestionID |
| 15:47.23 | spiderbiter | WHERE tr.TestInstanceID = 3; |
| 15:47.33 | spiderbiter | gives ... |
| 15:47.50 | macnewbold | 3 rows back |
| 15:47.56 | macnewbold | right? |
| 15:48.03 | spiderbiter | +------+------+-------+---------+ |
| 15:48.06 | spiderbiter | | QID | AID | guess | Correct | |
| 15:48.06 | spiderbiter | +------+------+-------+---------+ |
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| 15:48.08 | spiderbiter | | 10 | 5 | 5 | 1 | |
| 15:48.09 | spiderbiter | | 8 | 36 | 36 | 1 | |
| 15:48.11 | spiderbiter | | 2 | 26 | 26 | 1 | |
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| 15:48.12 | macnewbold | hi wps |
| 15:48.12 | spiderbiter | | 1 | 7 | 7 | 1 | |
| 15:48.14 | spiderbiter | | 3 | 29 | 29 | 1 | |
| 15:48.16 | spiderbiter | | 9 | 37 | 37 | 1 | |
| 15:48.17 | spiderbiter | | 7 | 21 | 21 | 1 | |
| 15:48.19 | spiderbiter | | 5 | 31 | 0 | 0 | |
| 15:48.20 | spiderbiter | | 6 | 32 | 32 | 1 | |
| 15:48.23 | spiderbiter | | 4 | 18 | 18 | 1 | |
| 15:48.24 | spiderbiter | +------+------+-------+---------+ |
| 15:48.25 | macnewbold | wanna guess what sql query generated that? |
| 15:48.25 | spiderbiter | morning wps |
| 15:49.11 | spiderbiter | I want to know if I can just get the score/percent |
| 15:49.41 | wps | morning |
| 15:49.47 | wps | I don't have a clue |
| 15:49.58 | spiderbiter | right from mysql |
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| 15:53.03 | macnewbold | spiderbiter: how is the score/percent calculated? #correct over #total? |
| 15:53.11 | spiderbiter | yup |
| 15:53.22 | macnewbold | do you already know the total? |
| 15:53.41 | spiderbiter | no, but I could |
| 15:54.00 | spiderbiter | with another query |
| 15:54.36 | spiderbiter | maybe I'll just have PHP tally up the score |
| 15:54.44 | macnewbold | if you group by correct, and get a count(), you'll have the #correct, and you can just use your (count() / total) to get the percent |
| 15:54.58 | macnewbold | if you're using php to iterate through the array anyway, doing it in php might be easiest |
| 15:55.21 | macnewbold | especially if you end up doing something like assigning a # of points to each question, so that they're weighted... |
| 15:55.35 | spiderbiter | I'll do that, PHP |
| 15:56.08 | macnewbold | there's a lot _possible_ with sql, but some of what's possible isn't really _practical_... :) |
| 15:56.19 | spiderbiter | PHP, BABY! That's what we're all about! |
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| 18:09.04 | wps | at eleven? |
| 18:12.38 | bigdog_ut | yeah when you start at 6 lunch is nice |
| 18:13.05 | bigdog_ut | wps, check this out http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa |
| 18:13.50 | wps | what am I looking at? |
| 18:14.02 | wps | err... I mean, what do you want me to look at |
| 18:14.11 | bigdog_ut | mini mac |
| 18:14.21 | wps | yup |
| 18:14.27 | wps | cool, huh |
| 18:14.31 | wps | it'd make a sweet little server |
| 18:14.44 | wps | a very good business move for Apple |
| 18:14.57 | wps | most everyone already owns a display, keyboard, and a mouse |
| 18:15.17 | wps | it's tiny |
| 18:15.29 | wps | you heard all of Apple's other announcements from yesterday? |
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| 18:59.20 | dataw0lf | <wps> it'd make a sweet little server |
| 18:59.27 | dataw0lf | psh, only if you installed a PPC linux kernel |
| 18:59.29 | dataw0lf | :))) |
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| 19:32.16 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: on what, a miniMac? you don't need to install anything special... it's already there |
| 19:33.35 | dataw0lf | bah, you didn't get what I was saying. |
| 19:33.52 | dataw0lf | Apple is gay was the thing I was shooting for. |
| 19:34.19 | dataw0lf | And right after saying that I have my dad coming with his laptop trying to get me to fix iTunes. |
| 19:35.20 | dataw0lf | 'go get a real mp3 player' |
| 19:35.46 | dataw0lf | or, more specifically, a music player that plays something else other than mp3s. |
| 19:35.52 | dataw0lf | like an iRiver. |
| 19:35.57 | dataw0lf | ogg pwns all of you. |
| 19:37.26 | dataw0lf | At least Microsoft knows that they are evil. |
| 19:38.43 | dataw0lf | </AppleBashing> |
| 19:50.42 | fungus | I used to be an AppleBasher... that is until I found the Terminal and discovered all the beautiful BSD'ness. |
| 19:53.10 | dataw0lf | yeah, try writing a shell script in Apple. |
| 19:53.16 | dataw0lf | err OS X |
| 19:54.17 | wps | If you don't like it, don't use it. |
| 19:54.33 | dataw0lf | I don't. |
| 19:54.45 | dataw0lf | But my family is full of Mac fans so I have to troubleshoot. |
| 19:55.11 | wps | and what would you have them use otherwise? |
| 19:55.32 | dataw0lf | Well I just installed Ubuntu on my sister's laptop. |
| 19:56.22 | wps | and you think that your non-technically-literate-or-skilled family members are going to need less assistance running linux/unix then they do running Mac OS? |
| 19:56.38 | dataw0lf | Install Ubuntu sometime. |
| 19:58.17 | wps | I would be happy to try. |
| 19:58.17 | fungus | I agree, Ubuntu is pretty cool. My fave debian based distro yet. |
| 20:00.00 | dataw0lf | And alot more 'n00b friendly' than traditional 'n00b' distros, ie FC, Mandrake, Suse. |
| 20:00.43 | dataw0lf | I've had great success thrusting it on 'non-technically-literate-or-skilled' people. |
| 20:02.02 | dataw0lf | Don't get me wrong, I think Apple was going in the right direction with OS X. |
| 20:02.46 | dataw0lf | But you can't argue that they're incredibly proprietary, and the 'BSD kernel' (really a Mach kernel) has undergone some severe changes, not necessarily for the better. |
| 20:03.43 | fungus | I am not a kernel hacker so I don't really know about that. |
| 20:04.44 | dataw0lf | Well, basically, OS X is a Mach micro kernel with a BSD subsystem. |
| 20:04.56 | fungus | I know that using the proprietary GUI is not good for freedom's sake, but it is so sexy, fast, and easy. I had to cave. |
| 20:05.44 | dataw0lf | I have issues with it from working with it on a network and from hacking around with it. |
| 20:05.58 | dataw0lf | Plus I just have general issues with Apple regarding the iPod and other stuff. |
| 20:06.41 | fungus | You would have to pry my iPod from my cold dead hands. |
| 20:07.39 | dataw0lf | iPods are like, so, a year ago. |
| 20:07.40 | tierra|w | but I've mentioned how I don't like macs also |
| 20:07.56 | dataw0lf | Why buy one now when you get something that plays multiple formats and sexier? |
| 20:08.13 | fungus | iPods are not a year ago, they are taking over the world. especially with the iPod shuffle. |
| 20:08.33 | dataw0lf | You're ridiculous. |
| 20:08.42 | fungus | sexier than an iPod, i think not. |
| 20:08.43 | dataw0lf | I'll continue playing a superior music format on my player. |
| 20:08.58 | tierra|w | you do that |
| 20:09.05 | dataw0lf | with.. duh duh duh.. color! |
| 20:09.15 | dataw0lf | that's something Apple never gets in time. |
| 20:09.16 | dataw0lf | Color. |
| 20:09.19 | tierra|w | omg, I need color to read my music titles! |
| 20:09.31 | tierra|w | hehe |
| 20:09.40 | dataw0lf | I thought you were color blind after the 'accident'. |
| 20:09.42 | tierra|w | I'm going to keep giving you crap dataw0lf |
| 20:09.55 | dataw0lf | And I'm going to exploit your php errors on your site. |
| 20:09.59 | tierra|w | if the shot was a few mm to the left... |
| 20:10.13 | dataw0lf | 'footer.sht' |
| 20:10.16 | dataw0lf | that's stupid. |
| 20:10.19 | dataw0lf | .php dude |
| 20:10.30 | tierra|w | refresh... there's something up with the webserver buffering the page |
| 20:10.36 | tierra|w | I fixed that like 5 minutes ago |
| 20:10.43 | dataw0lf | damn. |
| 20:11.07 | dataw0lf | 'can suck my glock shells' |
| 20:11.13 | dataw0lf | you wish. |
| 20:11.16 | dataw0lf | I'd pwn you with the glock. |
| 20:11.22 | tierra|w | is it still showing broken on your end? |
| 20:11.34 | dataw0lf | Yeah. |
| 20:11.43 | tierra|w | wtf... I've got a clean page, no errors |
| 20:11.58 | tierra|w | I did have that error, like 5 minutes ago, but fixed it |
| 20:12.07 | dataw0lf | go to the CS section. |
| 20:12.21 | tierra|w | oh, shit |
| 20:12.25 | dataw0lf | Yeah. |
| 20:13.01 | tierra|w | fixed |
| 20:13.46 | tierra|w | damn, UofU's webserver needs some work... |
| 20:14.04 | tierra|w | I should say, the CS dept webserver |
| 20:14.35 | tierra|w | somehow, the Engineering dept has managed to keep a better server up than the CS dept... kinda weird |
| 20:15.22 | dataw0lf | How bout I got in a war of words with some 1337 hax0rz on optikal's IRC network last night. |
| 20:15.29 | tierra|w | I used to have to use server side includes (hence the footer.sht) since CS didn't even have PHP, but at the same time, the Engineering dept allowed PHP3 |
| 20:15.57 | tierra|w | "optikal's IRC network"? |
| 20:16.08 | dataw0lf | well, the IRC network that the UGRI channel used to be on. |
| 20:16.17 | tierra|w | heh |
| 20:16.19 | dataw0lf | it wasn't there anymore, so I /listed, and found a #awc channel. |
| 20:16.40 | dataw0lf | bunch of guys who thought they knew the Divine Secrets of ASM or some crap. |
| 20:16.56 | dataw0lf | I think they found the -S option to gcc and ran with it. |
| 20:17.05 | tierra|w | hahaha |
| 20:18.21 | dataw0lf | that's what I said. |
| 20:18.54 | dataw0lf | they were like, 'we're 2700, heavy metal hackers!' |
| 20:18.58 | dataw0lf | quote unquote |
| 20:19.15 | tierra|w | heh |
| 20:19.26 | dataw0lf | 'we're anti POSIX!' |
| 20:19.43 | tierra|w | anti POSIX?! |
| 20:19.43 | dataw0lf | I was like, yea, sure kids, go back to flashing your BIOS or something. |
| 20:19.44 | tierra|w | haha |
| 20:20.14 | dataw0lf | then they kept on kicking me, but I had autojoin. |
| 20:20.24 | dataw0lf | they'd never heard of +i or /kickban |
| 20:21.09 | dataw0lf | it was almost as funny as my argument with Jeff Waugh. |
| 20:21.13 | dataw0lf | I gots to show you that log. |
| 20:21.29 | tierra|w | haha, they kept kicking you, but no ban? |
| 20:21.32 | dataw0lf | yeah. |
| 20:21.35 | tierra|w | that's halarious |
| 20:21.39 | dataw0lf | they were getting really pissed. |
| 20:22.17 | dataw0lf | I love wasting people's time. |
| 20:22.40 | fungus | dataw0lf, you sound like you enjoy getting people pissed off at you. |
| 20:22.48 | dataw0lf | fungus: I do, it's true. |
| 20:23.35 | dataw0lf | People get so enflamed with anger they don't realize that they're on the internet, and, basically, are wasting their time. |
| 20:23.37 | fungus | lol, I guess we all enjoy it a little. :) |
| 20:23.43 | tierra|w | you have to admit, that's pretty funny |
| 20:24.01 | dataw0lf | fungus: I only do it to derive logs that I can show friends. |
| 20:24.18 | tierra|w | people learn from it, it's all good |
| 20:24.20 | fungus | I bet you have quite a hilarious colection. |
| 20:24.25 | tierra|w | haha |
| 20:24.26 | dataw0lf | Yeah, I do. |
| 20:24.32 | dataw0lf | You have no idea really. |
| 20:24.42 | tierra|w | hence why I laughed |
| 20:24.47 | dataw0lf | yeah, someone always learns something, so it's good. |
| 20:24.57 | dataw0lf | I like playing the devil's advocate. |
| 20:25.11 | dataw0lf | like, with Jeff Waugh, I argued for Perl against Python. |
| 20:25.18 | fungus | I only do that when my personal position isn't clear. |
| 20:25.32 | dataw0lf | Oh, I always reverse my stance just for fun. |
| 20:25.37 | dataw0lf | That way I can learn both sides of the argument. |
| 20:25.48 | fungus | nice. |
| 20:25.56 | dataw0lf | I'm a huge Python advocate, but I always play the huge Perl fan. |
| 20:26.02 | tierra|w | it get's people to stop and think about stuff, look up info, etc |
| 20:26.25 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: well, I don't know if CFC learned anything, but they should've. |
| 20:26.39 | tierra|w | I'm still debating their ages... |
| 20:26.54 | dataw0lf | They said they were 16/17. |
| 20:27.00 | dataw0lf | But, seriously, probably 13/14. |
| 20:27.07 | tierra|w | they learned what they needed to if they're actually 13/14 |
| 20:27.21 | tierra|w | there's only so far you can pull them at their age |
| 20:27.33 | dataw0lf | Yeah, I can't help them if they were 16/17, though. |
| 20:27.38 | fungus | about Python, I have tried to get into it many times, but I always seem to hit roadblocks when I need to use other libraries for things that are standard with PHP. |
| 20:27.44 | tierra|w | I personally think they're both 13/14... |
| 20:27.56 | dataw0lf | fungus: Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Python in web development. |
| 20:28.09 | dataw0lf | But, scripts, and PyGTK, good stuff. |
| 20:28.16 | dataw0lf | I wish IronPython would go farther. |
| 20:28.17 | fungus | Is it worth the effort to keep trying. |
| 20:28.33 | dataw0lf | Sure, if you're looking for a replacement for Perl hacking. |
| 20:29.03 | dataw0lf | And looking for an extremely easy way to develop GUIs. |
| 20:29.26 | dataw0lf | synic / usynic uses Ruby for web development. |
| 20:29.30 | dataw0lf | But what can you expect. |
| 20:29.38 | dataw0lf | He's a Java fan. |
| 20:29.41 | dataw0lf | </troll> |
| 20:30.24 | dataw0lf | And apparently I've heard they're trying to get PHP bindings into Mono. |
| 20:30.27 | dataw0lf | That should be funny. |
| 20:31.18 | fungus | interesting. It sounds a bit of unnecessary to me. |
| 20:33.18 | dataw0lf | I was thinking 'ridiculous'. |
| 20:33.33 | dataw0lf | But, yeah, I rub most people the wrong way on IRC. |
| 20:33.45 | dataw0lf | Then they meet me in real life and they're like 'You're dataw0lf?!' |
| 20:41.06 | tierra|w | good times |
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| 22:13.29 | bigdog_ut | anyone look for java contract work? |
| 22:17.33 | synic | that all depends |
| 22:18.08 | synic | what are the details? |
| 22:18.29 | bigdog_ut | i can give you the contact info if u like |
| 22:18.49 | synic | sure |
| 22:18.50 | bigdog_ut | most of this is the provo/orem area |
| 22:19.02 | bigdog_ut | synic, send me an email and i can send you the contact info |
| 22:19.15 | synic | oh, yeah, i'm not in Provo |
| 22:19.54 | bigdog_ut | where are you at? |
| 22:19.57 | bigdog_ut | slc? |
| 22:20.02 | synic | yeah |
| 22:20.11 | bigdog_ut | she might have something there too |
| 22:20.19 | synic | what's your address? |
| 22:23.53 | bigdog_ut | bigdog @ venticon.com |
| 22:51.44 | bigdog_ut | synic, sent that to ya |
| 23:20.35 | tierra|w | doesn't everyone? |
| 23:20.55 | jsmith | Yes, everyone acts smart, but is stupid. |
| 23:20.55 | bigdog_ut | yeah but this is worse when they have like a ph.d and stuff |
| 23:21.12 | jsmith | PH.D. (Push Here, Dummy) |
| 23:21.20 | bigdog_ut | no doubt |
| 23:21.29 | bigdog_ut | in their winblowz word |
| 23:21.33 | tierra|w | that just means they know a bunch about stuff that doesn't matter... |
| 23:21.47 | bigdog_ut | yes |
| 23:22.08 | bigdog_ut | like asking for bash scripts and getting bat scripts |
| 23:22.17 | tierra|w | but yes, PhDs think that because they have a PhD, that they're an expert on *everything* |
| 23:22.59 | bigdog_ut | good thing i got gentoo, coke and some muzik |
| 23:23.13 | bigdog_ut | and a killer pirate voice |
| 23:23.16 | tierra|w | mmm... gentoo always makes me happy... |
| 23:23.36 | bigdog_ut | almost got my vmware up and running on gentoo |
| 23:23.47 | tierra|w | cool |
| 23:24.17 | tierra|w | played with vmware once in slack I think it was, haven't touched it in a long time |
| 23:24.38 | bigdog_ut | i need it for some windows apps that we use |
| 23:25.21 | bigdog_ut | unfortunately |
| 23:25.51 | tierra|w | that's what it's good for |
| 23:25.58 | dataw0lf | so what are you good for? |
| 23:26.11 | tierra|w | absolutely nothing... dun, da, dun |
| 23:26.12 | bigdog_ut | nothing apparently |
| 23:26.24 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 23:26.41 | dataw0lf | that's really weird because I'm listening to that song right now. |
| 23:26.44 | bigdog_ut | actually i got a great pirate voice |
| 23:26.44 | tierra|w | haha |
| 23:26.55 | bigdog_ut | what song? |
| 23:26.59 | dataw0lf | War |
| 23:27.02 | tierra|w | war, what is it good for |
| 23:27.08 | dataw0lf | the one tierra|w was quoting. |
| 23:27.22 | tierra|w | I'm glad you picked up on that one |
| 23:27.30 | dataw0lf | hehe. |
| 23:27.33 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 23:27.43 | dataw0lf | Now I'm listening to the Scissor Sisters cuz they rock. |
| 23:27.50 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 23:27.56 | dataw0lf | hm... is my xmms plugin loaded.. |
| 23:28.00 | dataw0lf | I say yes. |
| 23:28.22 | dataw0lf | you ever heard this song, tierra|w ? |
| 23:28.31 | tierra|w | I don't think so actually |
| 23:28.42 | dataw0lf | eine moment |
| 23:28.48 | tierra|w | un momento |
| 23:28.52 | tierra|w | profavor |
| 23:28.58 | tierra|w | s/ro/or |
| 23:29.03 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 23:29.36 | dataw0lf | dataw0lf.org/ss-takeyourmama.mp3 |
| 23:30.06 | tierra|w | I like how xchat doesn't always detect urls when you leave off a www. |
| 23:30.24 | dataw0lf | www.dataw0lf.org/ss-takeyourmama.mp3 |
| 23:30.25 | dataw0lf | whiner |
| 23:30.36 | tierra|w | too late, I already was downloading it |
| 23:30.55 | dataw0lf | huh |
| 23:30.57 | tierra|w | considering I've run into it so much, I'm pretty quick on the draw to c&p |
| 23:30.59 | dataw0lf | my multitail is hella lagging. |
| 23:31.47 | dataw0lf | weird. |
| 23:31.55 | dataw0lf | you're not logged as downloading it. |
| 23:32.16 | tierra|w | 29kb/s |
| 23:32.24 | tierra|w | 4.3mb done |
| 23:32.47 | dataw0lf | what the hell |
| 23:32.55 | tierra|w | you running through a <VirtualHost>? |
| 23:33.00 | bigdog_ut | stealth download |
| 23:33.26 | dataw0lf | no, it just isn't logging you. |
| 23:34.06 | dataw0lf | hmph |
| 23:34.29 | dataw0lf | huh, there you are |
| 23:34.44 | dataw0lf | and on Windows. |
| 23:34.48 | dataw0lf | you queer. |
| 23:34.52 | tierra|w | yeah, @ work |
| 23:34.55 | tierra|w | queer |
| 23:35.07 | dataw0lf | I know, I just like making fun of you. |
| 23:35.10 | tierra|w | ooo.. yeah, I've heard this |
| 23:35.16 | tierra|w | good song |
| 23:35.38 | dataw0lf | I know. |
| 23:35.43 | dataw0lf | I <3 it. |
| 23:35.54 | dataw0lf | Anyone else feel free to dl it if yah want. |
| 23:37.57 | dataw0lf | do it, take your mama out all night, you can stay up late cuz baby you're a full grown man. |
| 23:38.05 | dataw0lf | man that song is rocking. |
| 23:38.28 | tierra|w | we'll let the good times all roll out |
| 23:39.57 | dataw0lf | you gotta listen to the song. |
| 23:40.07 | dataw0lf | another good one. |
| 23:41.24 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: so I was talking to optikal he wants to hang out this weekend. |
| 23:42.42 | tierra|w | hmmm |
| 23:43.04 | tierra|w | we could do that |
| 23:43.33 | dataw0lf | I'm down with the Ramones. |
| 23:43.39 | dataw0lf | tierra|w: you downloading it again? |
| 23:43.45 | tierra|w | no |
| 23:44.16 | dataw0lf | ask eco or harm if they are. |
| 23:44.18 | dataw0lf | I bet they are. |
| 23:44.22 | dataw0lf | I bets they are! |
| 23:44.47 | tierra|w | they aren't even in this channel |
| 23:44.53 | tierra|w | oh, nvm |
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| 23:58.26 | tierra|w | wget has got to be one of my favorite network apps... first off, DA blocks wget user-agents... so you change the UA with -U... then they notice my server causing their servers some grief with retrieving info for me, and block my IP... doesn't stop me there, I simply add a number of free proxies to .wgetrc, and get back to work |