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| 04:25.10 | spiderbiter | bigdog_ut, what happening tonight |
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| 04:56.15 | bigdog_ut | not much and you spiderbiter |
| 04:56.16 | bigdog_ut | ? |
| 04:58.56 | spiderbiter | still diggin into xslt |
| 04:59.23 | spiderbiter | and brushing up my OO php skills |
| 04:59.42 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 04:59.49 | bigdog_ut | how is that coming along? |
| 05:00.02 | spiderbiter | slowly |
| 05:01.24 | bigdog_ut | i am checking out my new laptop |
| 05:01.40 | spiderbiter | the guy who built this was very organized, but there is no high level documentation so wrapping my mind around it is taking a while |
| 05:02.11 | bigdog_ut | i can imagine |
| 05:02.14 | spiderbiter | new laptop, eh? What'd ya get? |
| 05:02.34 | bigdog_ut | new p4 3ghz gig ram and a radeon 9700 |
| 05:02.57 | spiderbiter | nice ... new best friend? |
| 05:03.03 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 05:03.15 | spiderbiter | I can imagine ;-) |
| 05:03.35 | bigdog_ut | it is really nice |
| 05:03.42 | bigdog_ut | 17' wide screen |
| 05:08.46 | wps | bigdog_ut: I thought that you were getting a Mac? |
| 05:11.31 | bigdog_ut | i though so too...but this one is better for the same price |
| 05:12.47 | bigdog_ut | wps, i wanted a mac but i could not find the one i wanted for the price |
| 05:12.55 | wps | ah |
| 05:12.55 | bigdog_ut | i will continue to look though |
| 05:13.08 | bigdog_ut | actually, i want to save up for a g5 |
| 05:13.12 | bigdog_ut | or better |
| 05:32.01 | spiderbiter | I'm looking at this guys object classes |
| 05:32.46 | spiderbiter | he has a database object which he extends for each table |
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| 05:57.23 | spiderbiter | bigdog_ut, have you worked with any database classes? |
| 06:00.08 | beandog | PEAR has a great one. :) |
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| 06:02.35 | beandog | wb drew |
| 06:14.44 | bigdog_ut | spiderbiter, what are you trying to do? |
| 06:17.23 | beandog | learn oop I think |
| 06:19.50 | spiderbiter | I'm looking to see if these classes where taken from somewhere online where documentation can be found or if they are completely custom |
| 06:20.00 | beandog | pear.php.net/DB |
| 06:20.24 | bigdog_ut | the db classes? which ones spiderbiter? |
| 06:20.24 | beandog | http://pear.php.net/package/DB/docs/1.6.8/DB/DB_common.html |
| 06:20.29 | beandog | phpDocumentor freaking rocks :D |
| 06:20.37 | beandog | well, it doesnt ROCK ... it works, which is nice.. |
| 06:24.59 | beandog | sometimes. |
| 06:36.32 | wps | mailman's website SUCKS! |
| 06:36.38 | wps | mailman's documentation SUCKS! |
| 06:36.49 | wps | ~lart mailman's website |
| 06:36.55 | wps | ~lart mailman's documentation |
| 06:37.01 | beandog | lols |
| 06:37.02 | beandog | so true. |
| 06:37.05 | beandog | but mailman rocks :D |
| 06:37.22 | wps | how can something so sweet have such piece-of-crap documentation??? |
| 06:37.31 | beandog | it's free. |
| 06:37.47 | beandog | and nobody volunteers to write documentation. |
| 06:37.59 | beandog | Or at least the people that do, their snever gets submitted and/or accepted as the official docs. |
| 06:38.39 | wps | one thing that really frustrates me is not that it's just poor, but that it doesn't even make sense |
| 06:38.47 | wps | it says that things will be in certain places and it isn't |
| 06:39.09 | wps | and my biggest frustration is that I cannot find installation instructions anywhere |
| 06:39.49 | beandog | /usr/share/doc/mailman-v123/ |
| 06:39.57 | beandog | emerge mailman ;) |
| 06:40.03 | beandog | rpm -i mailman |
| 06:40.08 | beandog | Im probably not helping. |
| 06:41.48 | wps | well the thing is that it is already installed and running, so I don't need assistance getting it installed... I need something to read so that I can understand _how_ it is installed and gets configured so that I can debug |
| 06:41.58 | beandog | oh |
| 06:42.04 | beandog | whats the issue? |
| 06:42.10 | beandog | check out /usr/local/mailman or somethingl ike that |
| 06:42.16 | beandog | or locate mailman | grep html for documentation |
| 06:42.24 | beandog | might be /var/local/mailman |
| 06:42.27 | beandog | or ... something. |
| 06:42.41 | wps | I don't know how to get the web-based admin panel to come up |
| 06:42.58 | beandog | oh. |
| 06:43.05 | beandog | good luck. |
| 06:43.11 | wps | something, somewhere needs to be configured so that when you type "example.com/mailman/admin" in a browser, it comes up |
| 06:43.18 | beandog | Yah that is a pita. |
| 06:43.27 | wps | and that happens without those directories being webroot |
| 06:43.31 | wps | it happens dynamically somehow |
| 06:43.51 | wps | I am about to turn uphpu.org over to someone else :( |
| 06:44.04 | beandog | heh |
| 06:44.06 | wps | :) |
| 06:44.11 | beandog | dont look at me |
| 06:44.17 | wps | that or host it on an XServe |
| 06:44.35 | wps | :) |
| 06:45.49 | beandog | heh |
| 06:45.52 | beandog | is that a threat? |
| 06:48.03 | wps | no, a whimper |
| 06:48.08 | beandog | heh |
| 06:48.10 | beandog | Wade |
| 06:48.15 | beandog | you just need some eggnog. |
| 06:49.27 | bigdog_ut | cool |
| 06:57.24 | beandog | well |
| 06:57.25 | beandog | anything? |
| 06:57.28 | beandog | :) |
| 07:02.36 | wps | yeah, I am fater |
| 07:02.42 | beandog | wiser? |
| 07:02.47 | wps | just fater |
| 07:02.57 | beandog | bummer. |
| 07:03.26 | beandog | Well just sleep on it |
| 07:03.30 | beandog | You know. |
| 07:03.36 | beandog | My host has a web admin for mailing lists. |
| 07:03.39 | beandog | Its a freaking snap. |
| 07:03.50 | wps | that's how xserve is |
| 07:03.55 | wps | that's why I made that comment |
| 07:05.49 | beandog | Oh. |
| 07:05.56 | beandog | Oh .. like web front end? |
| 07:06.15 | wps | I am not sure if it has a web front end, but it does have a GUI |
| 07:06.42 | wps | XServe comes with everything you would need and has a GUI admin panel for all of it |
| 07:06.55 | beandog | oh |
| 07:06.58 | wps | all of the open-source tools |
| 07:06.59 | beandog | the one Im takling bout is web front end |
| 07:07.31 | wps | yeah, that would be even better |
| 07:07.39 | beandog | hmm |
| 07:07.39 | wps | I am pretty sure that it has one. I just have never used it |
| 07:07.45 | beandog | well youre welcome to check it out -- jdcdesigns.com |
| 07:07.49 | beandog | Ive setup mailing lists there before |
| 07:07.52 | beandog | its supah easy. |
| 07:07.56 | beandog | and its mailman. |
| 07:18.30 | wps | beandog: do you remember where/how you set the master password for mailman? |
| 07:18.36 | beandog | um |
| 07:18.40 | beandog | no |
| 07:18.46 | beandog | mailman/bin something |
| 07:18.47 | wps | dang |
| 07:18.54 | beandog | just find the main mailman directory |
| 07:19.21 | wps | k, and then? |
| 07:19.34 | beandog | um |
| 07:19.38 | beandog | look for bin/* |
| 07:19.40 | beandog | see whats in there |
| 07:20.25 | wps | change_pw perhaps? |
| 07:20.35 | beandog | that might be it :) |
| 07:20.39 | beandog | I honestly dont know. |
| 07:20.42 | beandog | Your guessi s as good as mine |
| 07:20.45 | wps | k |
| 07:20.46 | wps | thanks |
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| 07:58.20 | spiderbiter | get it figured out wps? |
| 07:58.34 | wps | _I_ didn't |
| 07:58.41 | wps | but it looks like my sys admin did |
| 07:58.48 | wps | so, yeah, I think that we're good for now |
| 07:58.55 | spiderbiter | cool |
| 08:51.03 | wps | spiderbiter: can you ping uphpu.org for me? |