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| 01:07.39 | spiderbiter | we need more evening programmers in here ;-) |
| 01:09.17 | spiderbiter | the 5 o'clock hour kissed 5 goodbye! |
| 01:10.40 | spiderbiter | macnewbold, still kickin'? |
| 01:10.59 | macnewbold | yeah, still here... |
| 01:11.07 | macnewbold | but soon leaving |
| 01:12.21 | spiderbiter | buncha family men! |
| 01:19.09 | *** join/#uphpu dataw0lf (~dataw0lf@rfenio.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 01:19.59 | tierra|w | I don't usually get off work at 5 |
| 01:20.38 | tierra|w | I'm usually here til maybe 7:00 or 8:00 sometimes... maybe get here about 1:00 and leave at 9 or 10 sometimes |
| 01:22.11 | dataw0lf | he's gay 24/7 tho |
| 01:22.28 | macnewbold | Lately I've been coming in between 7 and 8am, and usually leaving 6-7pm often |
| 01:23.20 | tierra|w | ouch |
| 01:23.45 | tierra|w | I may not leave here til 7 or 8, but I don't get here til 10:30-11:00 lately |
| 01:23.59 | dataw0lf | weird. |
| 01:24.06 | macnewbold | busy is good, but after 5 months of ths, it's starting to get rediculous |
| 01:24.12 | macnewbold | it wouldn't be bad if everything was on schedule |
| 01:24.21 | dataw0lf | I'm trying to start programs up and they seem to be running fine but they don't show up. |
| 01:24.21 | macnewbold | but we're barely keeping up, which is stressfull |
| 01:24.48 | macnewbold | and there's little-to-none we can offload to other people... |
| 01:25.02 | macnewbold | but we're almost out of the hole I think |
| 01:25.09 | macnewbold | g'night, all |
| 01:25.17 | tierra|w | until the manager puts you in another... |
| 01:25.20 | dataw0lf | wth is wrong with gnome |
| 01:26.08 | macnewbold | tierra|w: I am the manager.... it's just me and my partner here (who's not a programmer, and mostly does the business end or HTML/CSS work) |
| 01:26.24 | tierra|w | if I was working like that for that long, I'd throw down... unless your getting paid overtime and you want the extra hours |
| 01:26.37 | tierra|w | oh, that's a little hard then |
| 01:26.38 | macnewbold | in some ways, its like not having amanager, and in others, its like having 10 of them, who each want to think they're your only manager |
| 01:26.49 | macnewbold | yeah, we get paid hourly |
| 01:27.03 | macnewbold | and really high demand means we can raise rates too, which is nice |
| 01:27.46 | tierra|w | having the bargaining hand on your side helps |
| 01:27.54 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 01:42.16 | spiderbiter | It's like the channel is only alive when I take my eyes off. |
| 01:46.51 | tierra|w | does that mean no-one should talk for another 10 minutes? |
| 01:47.03 | tierra|w | oops |
| 01:47.06 | tierra|w | =P |
| 01:47.20 | spiderbiter | Ah Ha! |
| 01:49.11 | spiderbiter | just one more minute and I'd have taken a newspaper to the little library .. brb |
| 01:49.26 | spiderbiter | g'nite macnewbold |
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| 02:05.30 | wps | My knowledge of Microsoft Windows is waning |
| 02:05.41 | wps | I am used the wonderful world of Mac where things just work |
| 02:06.25 | wps | she has a DVD drive, but neither Windows Media Player or a DVD player that came on a DVD that we have will play a DVD |
| 02:06.48 | wps | I think that we need some drivers, encoders, or codecs or something |
| 02:06.54 | wps | can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 02:13.15 | tierra|w | it's all encoded, an install of either WinDVD or PowerDVD will fix it |
| 02:13.47 | wps | what's the difference between a codec and a decoder? |
| 02:14.06 | tierra|w | I don't think it's something you can just download since it was fought in court so much over being able to play DVD's in linux |
| 02:15.28 | tierra|w | codec's are a way of organizing media (frames/slices of movies, their image formats jpg, etc, and sound formats and how to lace those with the frames) |
| 02:16.24 | tierra|w | a codec actually decodes... your probably wanting to know the difference between a decoding and decrypting |
| 02:16.53 | wps | after searching the internet, it appears that both of those apps require a license |
| 02:17.02 | wps | is not a way to play a DVD on your computer for free? |
| 02:17.13 | tierra|w | so, DVDs are encoded in MPEG4, and are also encrypted (your missing the decryption software) |
| 02:18.10 | tierra|w | heh... not really... a lot of pcs back in the day used to come with dvd decryption cards (there were actual hardware PCI decryption cards) |
| 02:22.17 | tierra|w | http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/index.html |
| 02:23.02 | tierra|w | DVDs use CSS encyption... really weak, and already cracked with no problems, except that now the DMCA comes into play |
| 02:23.43 | tierra|w | hardware DVD player manufacturers actually license all their players with the MPAA or whoever it is that does the licensing |
| 02:24.00 | tierra|w | WinDVD and PowerDVD do the same |
| 02:24.31 | wps | k |
| 02:24.48 | tierra|w | went off a little there... |
| 02:24.55 | tierra|w | but some interesting stuff |
| 02:25.07 | tierra|w | I think I'm going to call it a day now |
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