| 00:00.33 | bigdog_ut | http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html |
| 00:06.37 | wps | any have experience setting up mailman with postfix? |
| 00:06.53 | wps | the list is down |
| 00:06.54 | wps | arrrrg |
| 00:07.48 | bigdog_ut | no why you need postfix? |
| 00:08.10 | wps | postfix is what is handling the email on the server |
| 00:08.51 | bigdog_ut | okay what are you trying to do..install postfix? |
| 00:09.25 | wps | postfix is install and running correctly |
| 00:09.30 | wps | mailman is install and running correctly |
| 00:10.07 | wps | it is accepting mail to "uphpu@uphpu.org" but is not processing it through mailman |
| 00:10.24 | wps | it's a virtual-server / aliases issue |
| 00:11.45 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 00:12.09 | bigdog_ut | here is a script from Dax Kelson on integrating the two |
| 00:12.12 | bigdog_ut | http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads.html |
| 00:12.19 | wps | i even have squirrelmail on there working correctly |
| 00:12.22 | bigdog_ut | search down to the end of the file |
| 00:12.32 | wps | mailman just stopped when we switched from sendmail to postfix |
| 00:14.09 | bigdog_ut | read the heading in the file |
| 00:14.30 | wps | is there a simple way to tell which version of mailman i have? |
| 00:16.02 | bigdog_ut | not sure |
| 00:16.12 | bigdog_ut | you might have to check the mailman docs |
| 00:26.49 | *** join/#uphpu drewbono (~andrew@c-24-2-90-52.client.comcast.net) |
| 00:27.42 | *** join/#uphpu wps (~wade@166.70.209.92) |
| 00:35.54 | bigdog_ut | did that help you out? |
| 00:37.25 | wps | i am trying it |
| 00:37.30 | wps | i implemented the script |
| 00:37.38 | wps | now i am trying to figure out how to restart postfix |
| 00:37.42 | wps | (assuming i have to restart it) |
| 00:37.50 | wps | but now webmin isn't responding |
| 00:38.09 | wps | i get "cannot connect to server" |
| 00:40.45 | drewbono | or |
| 00:41.03 | drewbono | --/sbin/service postfix restart |
| 00:51.13 | *** join/#uphpu leinaD (~dan@208.186.180.204) |
| 00:51.19 | leinaD | ahoy |
| 01:11.59 | drewbono | Howdy howdy. |
| 01:33.53 | *** join/#uphpu tierra (tierra@c-24-10-226-227.client.comcast.net) |
| 01:40.09 | leinaD | wow, I got a response. |
| 01:40.51 | drewbono | :-) |
| 01:49.01 | drewbono | Ok--here's a dumb question: |
| 01:49.16 | drewbono | What's the "proper" way to echo out a php var inside of HTML? |
| 01:49.31 | drewbono | So say I have a link that I want to create: |
| 01:49.58 | drewbono | <a href="<?php echo $link; ?>">Link</a> doesn't work |
| 01:50.06 | drewbono | do i have to echo the whole thing? |
| 01:50.53 | drewbono | Help me ObiWan-Kenobi--you're my only hope. |
| 02:23.08 | *** join/#uphpu wps (~wade@208.186.134.102) |
| 02:23.15 | bigdog_ut | what are you trying to do? |
| 02:23.20 | bigdog_ut | drewbono? |
| 02:23.27 | drewbono | I think I figured it out. |
| 02:23.48 | tierra | <?= $link ?> |
| 02:23.55 | drewbono | I was just trying to make something dynamic inside the html tags. |
| 02:24.04 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 02:24.07 | drewbono | It works how it is, but I'm just wondering if there's a better way. |
| 02:24.19 | bigdog_ut | you can set the short pages |
| 02:24.25 | bigdog_ut | <?=$var ?> |
| 02:24.28 | bigdog_ut | i believe |
| 02:24.41 | tierra | see above |
| 02:25.05 | bigdog_ut | sorry, tierra ...im not reading goot |
| 02:25.10 | drewbono | How do make it so you can just <? instead of <?php |
| 02:25.11 | bigdog_ut | s/goot/good/ |
| 02:25.23 | tierra | oh, heh... I was like "what do you mean by goot??!!" |
| 02:25.25 | bigdog_ut | modify php.ini to allow short_tags |
| 02:25.44 | drewbono | short_tags = on ? |
| 02:25.48 | drewbono | Or something similar? |
| 02:25.49 | tierra | I believe they are on by default |
| 02:25.56 | drewbono | I'll check it out. |
| 02:25.57 | drewbono | Thx guys. |
| 02:26.00 | bigdog_ut | np |
| 02:32.27 | bigdog_ut | anyone else need help? |
| 02:32.29 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 02:37.13 | drewbono | What up wps? |
| 02:37.18 | bigdog_ut | wps, how is it going? |
| 02:37.22 | drewbono | How come you missed class, wps? |
| 02:40.56 | drewbono | LOL |
| 02:41.01 | drewbono | Probably...poor kid. |
| 02:41.04 | wps | trying to fix the freaking server |
| 02:41.07 | bigdog_ut | no doubt |
| 02:41.26 | bigdog_ut | yeah some postfix + mailman issue i think |
| 02:42.50 | wps | i had already transferred all my domains over so i had clients that were depending on it |
| 02:44.16 | wps | sendmail puked... so we had to hurry and install postfix... and then that killed mailman |
| 02:44.17 | bigdog_ut | were you able to fix it |
| 02:44.21 | wps | no |
| 02:44.40 | wps | i figure we'll just bag the mailing list and install a bulletin board! |
| 02:44.56 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 02:45.05 | wps | NO! i was just kidding! |
| 02:45.19 | wps | i detest bulletin boards |
| 02:45.26 | bigdog_ut | uh... |
| 02:45.34 | bigdog_ut | no matter...i dont use them either |
| 02:46.40 | wps | it just might be a while for the mailing list though |
| 02:48.23 | drewbono | I can send you a working postfix config... |
| 02:48.28 | drewbono | If that'll help. |
| 02:48.30 | drewbono | What is it not doing? |
| 02:48.44 | tierra | heh... wps, I seriously feel for you, I've been in the same situation all of last week |
| 02:49.17 | tierra | postfix/sendmail/qmail, virtual domains... it's all gotten to my head |
| 02:52.09 | wps | thanks tierra |
| 02:53.36 | wps | the mail is getting to the box... but isn't getting to mailman |
| 02:53.45 | wps | postfix is running great... virtual domains and all |
| 02:53.56 | wps | it's just the mailing list(s) that aren't working |
| 02:54.14 | wps | i have to tell you guys... i have to chalk on up against linux this time... this is a freak'n joke |
| 02:54.40 | wps | if this were a mac, i would have installed mailman, installed postfix... filled out a preference pane... and it'd be up-and-running |
| 02:55.01 | drewbono | It's true... |
| 02:55.09 | bigdog_ut | yeah, but you have not use linux that long either |
| 02:55.21 | bigdog_ut | if i moved to mac it would take me longer |
| 02:55.23 | drewbono | My mailman "install" on OS X was a click of a checkbox... |
| 02:55.58 | wps | dissagree. I have had two hardcore linux users hacking away out this problem today for many hours each |
| 02:56.41 | wps | i don't want to complain too much because this stuff was written by volunteers, but it's just ridiculous... it shouldn't be this hard to install and configure software |
| 02:57.08 | wps | especially something like mailman and posftix... this stuff is used on servers everywhere... its' been done a hundred times |
| 02:57.15 | wps | err... thousands of times |
| 02:57.17 | bigdog_ut | no and it is not... |
| 02:57.41 | wps | wanna prove me wrong :) |
| 02:59.58 | wps | i guess i should clarify... it has nothing to do with linux/unix... is the way that the apps are designed i guess |
| 03:02.51 | bigdog_ut | so are they still working on it? |
| 03:05.09 | wps | trying :) |
| 03:05.26 | wps | oh... sorry... didn't notice that you said "they" |
| 03:05.35 | wps | no, they both had to go... didn't have any more time |
| 03:05.58 | wps | matt spent about four hours on it this afternoon and steve looked at it for an hour |
| 03:06.29 | bigdog_ut | what was modified when you installed postfix? |
| 03:07.26 | wps | on the system generally? or with mailman? |
| 03:07.40 | tierra | are you on postfix now then? |
| 03:07.50 | wps | yeah |
| 03:07.51 | bigdog_ut | yeah they moved to it |
| 03:08.55 | bigdog_ut | what is the setting on owner_request_special in postfix main.cf? |
| 03:09.11 | wps | (looking) |
| 03:13.21 | drewbono | I don't think it's set, bigdog. |
| 03:13.31 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 03:13.38 | bigdog_ut | it needs to be set to no |
| 03:13.45 | bigdog_ut | owner_request_special = no |
| 03:13.46 | drewbono | It's not even in the .cf file. |
| 03:14.39 | bigdog_ut | is the MTA set to 'Postfix' in the mm_cfg.py file? |
| 03:14.46 | drewbono | No... |
| 03:14.52 | bigdog_ut | MTA = 'Postfix' |
| 03:14.54 | drewbono | Just checking to see if it's in the default.df |
| 03:14.58 | drewbono | .py rather |
| 03:15.37 | drewbono | set to Manual |
| 03:15.44 | drewbono | change to Postfix? |
| 03:15.51 | bigdog_ut | verify in the default.py file that the POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD and POSTFIX_MAP_CMD are set to the appropriate postalias and postmap commands |
| 03:16.03 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 03:16.41 | bigdog_ut | check that out and let me know how it goes |
| 03:17.15 | drewbono | check. |
| 03:17.16 | drewbono | Both ok. |
| 03:17.29 | drewbono | POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [] |
| 03:17.31 | drewbono | is blank. |
| 03:17.36 | drewbono | is that a prob? |
| 03:19.10 | drewbono | I changed the MTA to Postfix in Defaults.py and saved it. |
| 03:19.16 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:19.19 | drewbono | Should that have fixed it? |
| 03:19.21 | bigdog_ut | let me check on the other thing |
| 03:19.30 | drewbono | ok. |
| 03:20.02 | bigdog_ut | Next, in your mm_cfg.py file, you will want to set the variable |
| 03:20.02 | bigdog_ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.02 | bigdog_ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.02 | bigdog_ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.02 | bigdog_ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.03 | bigdog_ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.54 | drewbono | Don't we just have to put the domains that use mailman there? |
| 03:22.01 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 03:22.06 | drewbono | Also, in what format? \r after each? |
| 03:22.14 | drewbono | or \n |
| 03:22.42 | drewbono | #DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mm_cfg_has_not_been_edited_to_set_host_domains' |
| 03:22.42 | drewbono | DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'uphpu.org' |
| 03:22.43 | drewbono | #DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mm_cfg_has_not_been_edited_to_set_host_domains' |
| 03:22.43 | drewbono | DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'uphpu.org' |
| 03:22.57 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:23.42 | bigdog_ut | after each other |
| 03:24.44 | drewbono | can i just stick 'em in Defaults.py? |
| 03:26.00 | drewbono | Is that ok bigdog_ut? |
| 03:26.13 | bigdog_ut | let me see |
| 03:26.38 | bigdog_ut | try and see |
| 03:26.38 | drewbono | Defaults.py is included in mm_cfy.py |
| 03:26.46 | drewbono | so it should work... |
| 03:26.55 | bigdog_ut | perhaps |
| 03:27.38 | drewbono | how to test, bigdog? |
| 03:27.51 | bigdog_ut | send emails |
| 03:29.33 | drewbono | Sep 27 22:32:20 willpowerrx postfix/trivial-rewrite[31144]: fatal: open database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory |
| 03:29.36 | drewbono | Sep 27 22:32:21 willpowerrx postfix/master[31074]: warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 31144 exit status 1 |
| 03:29.40 | drewbono | Sep 27 22:32:21 willpowerrx postfix/master[31074]: warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling |
| 03:30.19 | bigdog_ut | did you restart postfix and mailman? |
| 03:30.28 | bigdog_ut | restart postfix? |
| 03:30.32 | drewbono | Mailman can't be restarted, can it? |
| 03:30.36 | bigdog_ut | no |
| 03:30.37 | drewbono | it's just a bunch of .py files. |
| 03:30.37 | wps | i'll restart them now |
| 03:30.54 | wps | done |
| 03:31.33 | wps | fyi... i installed that script that someone in here suggested |
| 03:31.37 | wps | http://www.gurulabs.com/files/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py |
| 03:31.42 | bigdog_ut | in your POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['dom1.com', 'dom2.com'] |
| 03:31.52 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:31.55 | wps | let me know if you want me to remove that? |
| 03:32.05 | bigdog_ut | yeah, that is one way of doing it |
| 03:32.22 | drewbono | POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['list.uphpu.org'] |
| 03:32.23 | bigdog_ut | dax kelson is sometimes in the #utah too |
| 03:32.25 | wps | should we leave the script and the things it had be add to those three files? |
| 03:32.31 | drewbono | That's what is in there... |
| 03:32.36 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:32.42 | bigdog_ut | what 3 files? |
| 03:32.47 | bigdog_ut | wps, what 3 files? |
| 03:33.08 | wps | see under "INSTALLATION" in the comments at the top of... |
| 03:33.09 | wps | http://www.gurulabs.com/files/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py |
| 03:33.40 | bigdog_ut | oh..make the modifications of what we have been talking about |
| 03:34.07 | drewbono | which ones? |
| 03:34.15 | drewbono | i think i already have |
| 03:34.21 | wps | while leaving the "postfix-to-mailman" changes? |
| 03:35.25 | bigdog_ut | do you have an older copy of /etc/postfix/master.cf? |
| 03:36.22 | wps | i don't, but i know exactly what i changed |
| 03:36.29 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:36.31 | wps | want me to make a copy without my changes? |
| 03:36.36 | drewbono | is postfix similar to mailman in that when you change a virtual user table, you have to do: |
| 03:36.49 | drewbono | makemap hash virtusertable < virtusertable |
| 03:36.55 | bigdog_ut | wps, change back to original |
| 03:37.02 | wps | (changing) |
| 03:37.16 | bigdog_ut | drewbono, cant remember...sounds good...dont quote me though |
| 03:37.31 | bigdog_ut | doing this from the hip...long time |
| 03:38.05 | drewbono | That's the thing about Linux--it leaves me so quickly if I haven't done it for a while. |
| 03:38.16 | bigdog_ut | likewise |
| 03:38.32 | drewbono | that's why i keep a little spreadsheet with my own little "howto's" |
| 03:38.44 | bigdog_ut | smart |
| 03:38.51 | bigdog_ut | get enough...write a book |
| 03:38.54 | wps | k... the file is back to it's original state |
| 03:39.10 | drewbono | So bigdog...is there any way we can say definitively whether postfix or mailman is having probs? |
| 03:39.55 | wps | postfix is sending and receiving mail fine not related to mailman |
| 03:40.14 | drewbono | I'm just wondering about this in the maillogs... |
| 03:40.16 | drewbono | Sep 27 22:41:16 willpowerrx postfix/trivial-rewrite[31295]: fatal: open database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory |
| 03:41.13 | bigdog_ut | who owns this file? |
| 03:41.27 | wps | shall we "uninstall" the script? |
| 03:41.36 | bigdog_ut | wps, which one? |
| 03:41.45 | wps | this one... |
| 03:41.47 | wps | http://www.gurulabs.com/files/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py |
| 03:41.52 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 03:41.59 | wps | k... uninstalling |
| 03:42.14 | drewbono | bigdog--would this be easier if we started from scratch? |
| 03:43.01 | bigdog_ut | perhaps |
| 03:43.15 | bigdog_ut | hard to say...cause postfix is working |
| 03:43.27 | wps | script uninstalled |
| 03:43.41 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:44.28 | wps | everybody stop! |
| 03:44.32 | wps | something just came through |
| 03:44.39 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:44.41 | wps | a registration request that i submitted at seven |
| 03:44.43 | bigdog_ut | i am stopping |
| 03:44.57 | drewbono | *stopped* |
| 03:45.58 | wps | okay... back to work :) |
| 03:46.08 | wps | mailman is apparently sending, but not receiving |
| 03:46.14 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:46.18 | wps | the emails were returned |
| 03:46.18 | wps | <uphpu@list.uphpu.org>: |
| 03:46.18 | wps | Sorry, I couldn't find any host named list.uphpu.org. (#5.1.2) |
| 03:46.27 | wps | <uphpu-request@lists.uphpu.org>: |
| 03:46.27 | wps | 66.139.78.140 does not like recipient. |
| 03:46.28 | wps | Remote host said: 554 <uphpu-request@lists.uphpu.org>: Relay access denied |
| 03:46.28 | wps | Giving up on 66.139.78.140. |
| 03:46.36 | drewbono | is it list.phpu.org |
| 03:46.36 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:46.39 | drewbono | or lists.uphpu.org |
| 03:46.48 | bigdog_ut | nice drewbono |
| 03:46.59 | wps | uphpu.org |
| 03:47.16 | drewbono | so no list prefix? |
| 03:47.30 | bigdog_ut | that is the domain...but i thought the virtual was list.uphpu.org |
| 03:47.36 | drewbono | 46pm] wps: Remote host said: 554 <uphpu-request@lists.uphpu.org>: Relay access denie |
| 03:47.41 | drewbono | wps: <uphpu@list.uphpu.org>: |
| 03:47.46 | drewbono | 1 != 2 |
| 03:47.51 | wps | now that we have ditched the script... let's ditched the sub-domain |
| 03:47.59 | drewbono | ok... |
| 03:48.01 | wps | i am changing it back to "uphpu@uphpu.org" |
| 03:48.03 | wps | unimomento |
| 03:48.04 | drewbono | *chaning Defaults.py* |
| 03:48.47 | drewbono | *changing |
| 03:48.49 | drewbono | Wow--I must be tired. |
| 03:48.55 | drewbono | typos left and right. |
| 03:49.47 | drewbono | And it's not even past midnight yet... :-) |
| 03:50.02 | drewbono | So. wps, it's list@uphpu.org now? |
| 03:50.07 | wps | yes |
| 03:50.39 | bigdog_ut | okay who is testing |
| 03:51.16 | wps | i'll try and post to the lsit |
| 03:51.18 | wps | *list |
| 03:51.23 | drewbono | I sent one...saw it go through the mail log. |
| 03:51.25 | drewbono | It was accepted. |
| 03:52.53 | wps | postfix returned the attempt to post |
| 03:52.54 | wps | <"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post uphpu"@srv1.anavidesign.com>: unknown user: |
| 03:52.54 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.54 | wps | Reporting-MTA: dns; srv1.anavidesign.com |
| 03:52.54 | wps | Arrival-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:55:39 -0500 (CDT) |
| 03:53.58 | bigdog_ut | how did you set up the virtual domains? |
| 03:54.23 | drewbono | Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: |
| 03:54.23 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.23 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.24 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.42 | wps | the web portion was set up in httpd.conf manually |
| 03:54.52 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:54.55 | wps | the email portion was set up through a webmin module called "virtual-servers" |
| 03:55.02 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:55.13 | bigdog_ut | what is in /etc/postfix/virtual-regexp? |
| 03:55.47 | wps | # mandatory |
| 03:55.47 | wps | # commands |
| 03:55.47 | wps | # lists (command -post) |
| 03:55.57 | bigdog_ut | that is it? |
| 03:56.10 | wps | no... half of what i pasted didn't come through |
| 03:56.17 | wps | # mandatory |
| 03:56.19 | wps | strange |
| 03:56.36 | wps | [/^(postmaster|root|abuse)@lists\.uphpu\.org$/ $1@uphpu.org] |
| 03:56.47 | wps | there (excluding the brackets) |
| 03:57.38 | wps | # mandatory |
| 03:57.38 | wps | [/^(postmaster|root|abuse)@lists\.uphpu\.org$/ $1@uphpu.org] |
| 03:57.39 | wps | # commands |
| 03:57.39 | wps | [/^([a-zA-Z0-9_\-]+)-(post|admin|request|owner|on|off)@lists\.uphpu\.org$/ mailman-$2+$1] |
| 03:57.42 | wps | # lists (command -post) |
| 03:57.44 | wps | [/^([a-zA-Z0-9_\-]+)@lists\.uphpu\.org$/ mailman-post+$1] |
| 03:57.47 | wps | there... that's all of it |
| 03:57.51 | bigdog_ut | okay so it is set to lists.uphpu.org |
| 03:58.03 | wps | ah... dug |
| 03:58.05 | wps | duh |
| 03:58.06 | wps | changing it |
| 03:58.11 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:58.39 | wps | changed |
| 03:58.48 | wps | i do have to share something that Steve taught me |
| 03:58.57 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 03:59.00 | wps | ":x" is the same and ":wq" is vi |
| 03:59.06 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 03:59.23 | wps | do i need to restart postfix/mailman now, before testing? |
| 03:59.26 | drewbono | Really? |
| 03:59.32 | wps | *in vi |
| 03:59.37 | drewbono | Man...there are so many ways to get out of vi. |
| 03:59.42 | drewbono | It's like they don't even want you in there. :-) |
| 03:59.47 | drewbono | :x :wq ZZ |
| 03:59.48 | wps | yeah... cool shortcut (although 'wq' isn't any harder, ha ha ha) |
| 04:00.05 | wps | "like they don't even want you in there" <-- ha ha ha |
| 04:00.49 | wps | restarted |
| 04:00.52 | wps | sent another test |
| 04:01.02 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 04:01.11 | bigdog_ut | i love vi and code folding |
| 04:01.52 | wps | message still returned |
| 04:02.07 | wps | same error |
| 04:02.08 | wps | <"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post uphpu"@srv1.anavidesign.com>: unknown user: |
| 04:02.08 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.08 | wps | Reporting-MTA: dns; srv1.anavidesign.com |
| 04:02.08 | wps | Arrival-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:04:10 -0500 (CDT) |
| 04:02.35 | drewbono | Dood--I'll set you up on our OS X server box... :-) |
| 04:03.05 | bigdog_ut | there is something amiss with the virtual domains |
| 04:04.05 | wps | would it help for you to see how they are set up in webmin, ray? |
| 04:05.01 | wps | there is something somewhere still set to "lists.uphpu.org" |
| 04:05.04 | bigdog_ut | no |
| 04:05.17 | bigdog_ut | you can run a grep on the files |
| 04:05.34 | bigdog_ut | grep -i "lists.uphpu.org" filename |
| 04:06.25 | *** join/#uphpu synic|l (~synic@c-67-172-242-219.client.comcast.net) |
| 04:11.46 | wps | how do you search a directory? |
| 04:12.25 | drewbono | find / -name |
| 04:12.47 | drewbono | find . -name "*filename*" |
| 04:12.51 | wps | you don't need grep? |
| 04:12.54 | drewbono | nope |
| 04:13.19 | drewbono | or am I misunderstanding... |
| 04:13.23 | drewbono | are you meaning: |
| 04:13.29 | drewbono | ls -la | grep filename |
| 04:13.39 | wps | i want to search the system to see if we have "lists.uphpu.org" still anywhere |
| 04:13.40 | drewbono | or do you want a recursive search? |
| 04:13.46 | wps | recursive |
| 04:13.57 | drewbono | if you wanna search the whole system: |
| 04:14.03 | drewbono | find / -name "lists.uphpu.org" |
| 04:15.09 | wps | hmm... don't think that that worked... it didn't think very long |
| 04:15.21 | wps | couldn't have searched the entire system that quick |
| 04:17.47 | drewbono | You're only using 2.6G total |
| 04:17.56 | drewbono | test it... |
| 04:18.05 | drewbono | touch a file somewhere and search for it. |
| 04:18.54 | drewbono | did bigdog give up? |
| 04:19.03 | wps | oh, so you think it did search that fast? |
| 04:19.13 | drewbono | Yeah... |
| 04:20.00 | drewbono | [root@srv1 sbin]# find / -name "andrew" |
| 04:20.00 | drewbono | [root@srv1 sbin]# cd /tmp |
| 04:20.00 | drewbono | [root@srv1 tmp]# touch andrew |
| 04:20.01 | drewbono | [root@srv1 tmp]# find / -name "andrew" |
| 04:20.32 | drewbono | "/tmp/andrew" |
| 04:20.58 | drewbono | wps--you should toss bigdog_ut some access and let him rip through it. |
| 04:21.33 | wps | bigdog_ut, would it help to have access to the box? |
| 04:21.50 | wps | i would be more than happy to let you log on if that would help |
| 04:22.15 | bigdog_ut | i apologize...let me see in a few...i have some javascript hotkeys i am need to finish |
| 04:22.35 | bigdog_ut | what os is it? |
| 04:22.43 | wps | fedora 1 |
| 04:22.53 | bigdog_ut | oh...crap |
| 04:23.13 | wps | drewbono, find only seems to be searching filenames and not the contents of files |
| 04:23.23 | drewbono | Oh...sorry. |
| 04:23.27 | drewbono | You were looking for contents? |
| 04:23.30 | wps | yup |
| 04:23.37 | drewbono | Hmmm.... |
| 04:23.37 | bigdog_ut | find . -name | xargs grep -i 'value' |
| 04:23.50 | drewbono | Nice bigdog. :-) |
| 04:25.02 | bigdog_ut | find . -name 'filename' | xargs grep -i 'lists.uphpu.org' |
| 04:26.03 | wps | nothing |
| 04:27.41 | wps | ~wade |
| 04:27.42 | jbot | it has been said that wade is Mr. Sexy pants, or a peachy keen lima bean |
| 04:27.48 | bigdog_ut | the ultimate system: gentoo + mac os x |
| 04:27.57 | bigdog_ut | ~bigdog_ut |
| 04:27.58 | jbot | i heard bigdog_ut is a big dog who turns around three times before falling asleep. in a van down by the river, or wants to be "Mullet-Man" -> professional up front, but one hell of a party in the back. |
| 04:28.06 | wps | running the two together? |
| 04:28.46 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 04:29.06 | bigdog_ut | okay do you have ssmtp or exim or qmail installed? |
| 04:29.16 | wps | how can you run two operating systems at the same time? or did you just mean dual-boot? |
| 04:29.30 | bigdog_ut | no...gentoo portage |
| 04:29.49 | wps | what's that? |
| 04:30.04 | bigdog_ut | it like a package manager |
| 04:30.08 | bigdog_ut | but 10x better |
| 04:30.11 | wps | ah |
| 04:30.18 | wps | i am not sure what "ssmpt" or "exim" are |
| 04:30.29 | wps | are you wondering what is handling the SMTP? |
| 04:30.30 | bigdog_ut | mta programs |
| 04:30.33 | bigdog_ut | no |
| 04:30.40 | bigdog_ut | this are mta programs |
| 04:30.47 | wps | postfix is doing that |
| 04:30.50 | bigdog_ut | rpm -qa | grep -i 'ssmpt' |
| 04:31.00 | bigdog_ut | rpm -qa | grep -i 'exim' |
| 04:31.05 | bigdog_ut | rpm -qa | grep -i 'qmail' |
| 04:31.27 | wps | isn't it? |
| 04:31.33 | wps | it's sending and receiving mail |
| 04:32.18 | bigdog_ut | correct...we just dont want another one installed |
| 04:32.50 | bigdog_ut | was a vmail user created |
| 04:32.51 | bigdog_ut | ? |
| 04:32.59 | bigdog_ut | grep -i 'vmail' /etc/password |
| 04:33.01 | wps | none of those three are installed |
| 04:33.08 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 04:33.26 | wps | grep: /etc/password: No such file or directory |
| 04:33.34 | bigdog_ut | sorry /etc/passwd |
| 04:33.44 | bigdog_ut | your not using a mysql backend are you? |
| 04:33.48 | bigdog_ut | for postfix |
| 04:33.50 | wps | no |
| 04:33.51 | drewbono | ~drewbono |
| 04:33.55 | wps | well, not that i am ware of |
| 04:34.04 | drewbono | Oh...it doesn't like me. |
| 04:34.05 | drewbono | :-( |
| 04:34.12 | wps | grep -i 'vmail' /etc/passwd returned nothing |
| 04:34.17 | drewbono | bigdog--macos and gentoo? |
| 04:34.31 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 04:34.40 | drewbono | run gentoo as primary and "emulate' the macos? |
| 04:34.41 | wps | jbot, drewbono is the mac |
| 04:34.42 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 04:35.08 | bigdog_ut | no run gentoo portage in mac |
| 04:35.31 | drewbono | Oh...you mean run MacOS as your primary, but portage as the pkg manager... |
| 04:36.07 | bigdog_ut | yeah and builder |
| 04:36.29 | bigdog_ut | wps can you email me your config for mm_cfg.py? |
| 04:37.31 | drewbono | bigdog_ut--wouldn't an account be easier? |
| 04:38.02 | bigdog_ut | yes...but while i am chating here i am working on 2 other things too |
| 04:38.09 | drewbono | Oh...gotcha. |
| 04:38.28 | bigdog_ut | sorry, i wish i had time to focus and really get into it |
| 04:38.29 | wps | and we are very, very grateful for his "chatting" |
| 04:38.35 | wps | thank you, ray |
| 04:38.39 | bigdog_ut | np |
| 04:39.16 | bigdog_ut | have turned on debugging in postfix? |
| 04:40.04 | bigdog_ut | okay do you have sudo installed on the server? |
| 04:40.34 | drewbono | yep |
| 04:40.39 | wps | sudo is running, yes |
| 04:40.45 | wps | drewbono's account has sudo priveleges |
| 04:41.11 | bigdog_ut | okay...create me an account with first initial and last name together and email me the pass |
| 04:41.34 | bigdog_ut | and add me to the sudo file |
| 04:41.51 | drewbono | Uh-oh...bigdog's rolling up his sleeves... |
| 04:42.02 | wps | can i just send you the username and pass for drewbono's account? |
| 04:42.02 | drewbono | "who let the dog out?" |
| 04:42.17 | bigdog_ut | if drewbono doesnt mind |
| 04:42.34 | drewbono | It'd be an honor... |
| 04:42.39 | drewbono | since it's not even really mine. :-) |
| 04:42.43 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 04:42.43 | wps | it was just temporary... drewbono is using steves account :) |
| 04:42.44 | drewbono | You'll see what I mean in a seco. |
| 04:42.52 | drewbono | Exxxxxxxactly. |
| 04:42.52 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 04:42.59 | drewbono | Poor steve... |
| 04:43.16 | bigdog_ut | leinaD, is sleeping again |
| 04:43.34 | wps | bigdog_ut, email sent with credentials |
| 04:43.39 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 04:43.45 | wps | would is leinaD? |
| 04:43.58 | bigdog_ut | dont know |
| 04:44.04 | bigdog_ut | what is the server? |
| 04:44.11 | wps | uphpu.org |
| 04:47.41 | bigdog_ut | okay here is the problem |
| 04:47.48 | wps | dang... that was quick |
| 04:47.48 | bigdog_ut | there is no /etc/hostname file |
| 04:48.31 | bigdog_ut | so it is pulling the value from /bin/hostname |
| 04:48.38 | bigdog_ut | which is srv1.anavidesign.com |
| 04:49.05 | wps | k... |
| 04:49.25 | wps | whall i create it, or are you already on it? |
| 04:49.33 | wps | *shall |
| 04:49.34 | bigdog_ut | there is nothing set in main.cf |
| 04:49.48 | bigdog_ut | no |
| 04:49.48 | wps | dang, you'd think we were all drunk... with our typos |
| 04:50.08 | bigdog_ut | there needs to be set the myhostname in the main.cf file |
| 04:50.26 | wps | k... (looking) |
| 04:50.55 | bigdog_ut | that is why there is nothing getting set in the $myhostname |
| 04:50.59 | bigdog_ut | in mydestination |
| 04:52.16 | wps | i don't see /etc/hostname |
| 04:52.57 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 04:52.59 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 04:53.10 | bigdog_ut | is there anyone on this server? |
| 04:53.14 | bigdog_ut | besides uphpu? |
| 04:53.21 | wps | yes, many domains |
| 04:53.26 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 05:03.19 | bigdog_ut | test it out and let me know |
| 05:03.37 | wps | (testing) |
| 05:04.53 | wps | (waiting) |
| 05:07.08 | wps | uh-oh... something broke |
| 05:07.14 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 05:07.19 | wps | regular mail broke |
| 05:07.20 | bigdog_ut | that is the hosts then |
| 05:07.28 | wps | message returned |
| 05:07.28 | wps | <billing.anavidesign@uphpu.org>: unknown user: "billing.anavidesign@uphpu.org" |
| 05:07.29 | wps | Reporting-MTA: dns; lists.uphpu.org |
| 05:07.29 | wps | Arrival-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:09:46 -0500 (CDT) |
| 05:08.09 | bigdog_ut | what is the email address you are sending too? |
| 05:08.10 | wps | tried sending an email to "billing@anavidesign.com" from a non-related account and got that error |
| 05:08.29 | wps | same with "admin@uphpu.org" |
| 05:08.29 | wps | <admin.uphpu@uphpu.org>: unknown user: "admin.uphpu@uphpu.org" |
| 05:08.29 | wps | Reporting-MTA: dns; lists.uphpu.org |
| 05:08.30 | wps | Arrival-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:09:46 -0500 (CDT) |
| 05:11.53 | bigdog_ut | k try now |
| 05:12.47 | drewbono | *tested* |
| 05:13.04 | wps | <"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post uphpu"@srv1.anavidesign.com>: unknown user: |
| 05:13.05 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.47 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.47 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.47 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.51 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.21 | wps | sheesh, we still have "lists.uphpu.org" in there somewhere? |
| 05:14.36 | drewbono | dns... |
| 05:14.43 | wps | DOH! |
| 05:14.53 | wps | (changing dns) |
| 05:15.10 | wps | non-mailman-related email accounts test worked |
| 05:16.19 | wps | lists.uphpu.org removed from dns |
| 05:16.50 | drewbono | I don't think it's the external DNS, rather something on the machine still thinks its lists.uphpu.org |
| 05:16.59 | drewbono | But I don't think that's the root of the problem. |
| 05:17.17 | bigdog_ut | try again |
| 05:17.23 | wps | no... shouldn't have even effected it... but still needed to be done |
| 05:18.34 | bigdog_ut | it is a virtual issue |
| 05:19.16 | wps | undeliverable mail returned to sender |
| 05:19.30 | wps | <"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post uphpu"@srv1.anavidesign.com>: unknown user: |
| 05:19.30 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.30 | wps | Reporting-MTA: dns; srv1.anavidesign.com |
| 05:19.31 | wps | Arrival-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:21:40 -0500 (CDT) |
| 05:19.45 | drewbono | I'm not sure the virtual databases were initialized properly... |
| 05:19.51 | drewbono | Check out /var/log/maillog |
| 05:27.50 | bigdog_ut | okay recreated the dbs test again for me |
| 05:28.08 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.17 | wps | same... undeliverable mail returned to sender |
| 05:29.23 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 05:29.28 | wps | <"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post uphpu"@srv1.anavidesign.com>: unknown user: |
| 05:29.28 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.31 | wps | where do you live again Ray? Centerville? |
| 05:30.35 | bigdog_ut | layton |
| 05:30.39 | bigdog_ut | can you send another email |
| 05:31.10 | wps | ah, yes layton |
| 05:31.21 | wps | my grandparent's live there. gentile. |
| 05:31.32 | wps | (sending) |
| 05:31.38 | bigdog_ut | yeah i live off of gentile and flint |
| 05:32.27 | wps | they live across the street from valley view golf course |
| 05:32.30 | wps | up by the highway |
| 05:32.44 | wps | same... undeliveredable mail returned to sender |
| 05:32.45 | bigdog_ut | yeah i am familiar with it |
| 05:32.51 | drewbono | i thot wps was calling bigdog a gentile... :-) |
| 05:32.56 | wps | <"|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post uphpu"@srv1.anavidesign.com>: unknown user: |
| 05:32.57 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.57 | wps | Reporting-MTA: dns; srv1.anavidesign.com |
| 05:32.57 | wps | Arrival-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:35:22 -0500 (CDT) |
| 05:33.02 | wps | :), nope, it's a street |
| 05:33.13 | wps | the funning thing is that gentile intersects with angel |
| 05:33.24 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 05:34.25 | wps | regular email send/receive still working |
| 05:37.43 | wps | i am going to make this worth your while, Ray |
| 05:38.03 | drewbono | Well gents...I'm off to bed. |
| 05:38.22 | drewbono | Best of luck in getting it fixed. |
| 05:38.22 | bigdog_ut | i hope i can...i never set up virtual domains on this before |
| 05:38.47 | bigdog_ut | okay email again |
| 05:41.35 | wps | regular mail still working |
| 05:41.42 | wps | post to the lists is still in cyberspace |
| 05:41.53 | wps | haven't received it yet, but haven't received any errors yet |
| 05:46.06 | bigdog_ut | still nothing |
| 05:46.41 | wps | nothing yet |
| 05:47.27 | bigdog_ut | i might have to think about this some more..i fixed the error with the db |
| 05:47.34 | wps | there shouldn't be much traffic on the information superhighway at this time of night |
| 05:48.14 | bigdog_ut | the virtual_aliases.db file |
| 05:48.53 | wps | you want to sleep on it? |
| 05:49.29 | bigdog_ut | send another test email for kicks..and then i think i will |
| 05:51.58 | wps | sent |
| 05:52.38 | leinaD | Someone said something to me and I missed it. |
| 05:52.42 | leinaD | It was probably a very long time ago. |
| 05:53.18 | wps | what was that? |
| 05:53.47 | leinaD | I don't know, I just saw that the channel name was blue (indicating someone was talking to me) and I haven't been on here for a long time |
| 05:53.50 | leinaD | so it'd scrolled off |
| 05:53.54 | leinaD | probably not important anyway |
| 05:54.21 | wps | oh, bigdog_ut was saying that you had probably fallen asleep |
| 05:54.35 | leinaD | probably |
| 05:54.37 | leinaD | I didn't |
| 05:54.40 | leinaD | was just working |
| 05:54.58 | bigdog_ut | wps, any luck |
| 05:55.03 | wps | nope |
| 05:55.18 | wps | no errors though |
| 05:55.29 | bigdog_ut | okay |
| 05:55.41 | bigdog_ut | then i will think about it tonight an tomorrow |
| 05:56.01 | wps | k |
| 05:56.03 | wps | thank you |
| 05:56.08 | bigdog_ut | np |
| 05:56.11 | wps | i really appreciate it |
| 05:56.45 | wps | alright |
| 05:56.50 | wps | good night everyone |
| 05:57.15 | leinaD | night |
| 05:57.38 | bigdog_ut | night |
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