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07:13.19natarajHi
07:13.34natarajneed a help on hardware ECC on Nand flash
07:14.29natarajdoes BR have any role in this? at least while generating the jffs2 image?
07:15.00natarajmy SBC has an ECC controller
07:15.40natarajpresently on 2.6.30 with Atmel patches
07:16.30natarajworking well using CONFIG_MTD_NAND_ATMEL_ECC_SOFT=y
07:16.50natarajbut errors with  CONFIG_MTD_NAND_ATMEL_ECC_HW
07:17.48natarajmtd->read(0x400 bytes from 0xee0000) returned ECC error
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09:12.46yowHi everyone
09:13.03yowis there anyone here free to help?
09:13.28yowmy problem may be an easy one, for many of you
09:14.05yowim trying to compile (make) OpenNTPD for an ARM7 platform
09:15.58yowI managed to compile it successfully using the ARM toolchain, however, the following error message was displayed when I ran it on the ARM target board
09:16.16yowsocket: Address family not supported by protocol
09:17.03yowI suspect the above error msg was generated by the following line of code in ntpd.c:
09:17.17yowif (socketpair(AF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, PF_UNSPEC, pipe_chld) == -1)
09:18.39yowI've compiled & run a very simple sample code demonstrating the socketpair() function bu the same error msg was displayed
09:21.31yowThe simple sample code which I downloed from internet is written by Beej, which is available at:
09:21.34yowhttp://beej.us/guide/bgipc/examples/spair.c
09:23.59yowAfter searching on the internet for more than a week, Im thinking the cause(s) to the problem could be either of the followings:
09:24.43yow01. uClinux does not support socketpair() function. However, it seems that it's available in the toolchain
09:27.23yow02. AF_UNIX (PF_UNIX) is omitted when the developer of the ARM board compiled the uClinux Kernel. Can anyone tell me which option should be checked in order to have the AF_UNIX domain included in the kernel, or, to include the socketpair() function?
09:28.55yowI hope my questions were presented properly & neatly enough and do not offend anyone in the room.
09:29.20yowCan anyone help? TIA.   -yow-
09:30.06yowp.s.: The ARM toolchain and the uClinux used are as follows:
09:31.52yow01. cat uClinux-dist/version  => July 17 2006
09:35.25Mirellyow: I haven't used uClinux, but trying on an ARMv6L system with uClibc+gcc, no issues.
09:35.58yowgcc? is it not arm-elf-gcc?
09:36.18yowhi Mirell, thanks for your reply & info.
09:36.41Mirellyow: armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabi-gcc but that was too long to type.
09:37.04yowMirell: The version of arm-elf-gcc that i'm using is 3.3.4, i reckon
09:37.08MirellLord.
09:37.12MirellThat's stone age.
09:38.23yowi guess the reason why the developer used arm-elf-gcc for this board ie because the MCU is a low-end ARM7 but not high-end ons nor ARM9
09:39.39yowI'm going to try to write AP for an ARM9 board later which I think is using the more up-to-date compiler, lib & kernel
09:39.51Mirellyow: Have you tried creating a socket for other protocols, just for grins?
09:40.19yowMirell, do u know what could be the cause to the problem from the error msg?
09:41.03Mirellyow: Not offhand, sorry, but that'd be something I'd try, just to see what occurs.
09:42.00yowMirell: personally not yet, however, dhpc and ntp client are running on the baord without any problem. Also, many internet related APs have been developed and run on the board without any problem. So, I'm 100% sure socket() is working on the board/kernel
09:42.46Mirellyow: Right, I'm just curious if instead of PF_UNSPEC, try something else.
09:42.54Mirellyow: For socketpair.
09:43.43Mirellyow: Since it gives an Address family not supported.
09:43.45yowMirell: I agree with you and have thought to do that, however, Im afraid I've fogotten to run a simple code using socket() before I posted my question here. I think I've waisted too much time beating around the bushes :(
09:44.06MirellHeh
09:44.38yowMirell: As far as I know, PF_UNSPEC == 0, which is the "default" protocol?
09:44.56yowMirell: I've replaced PF_UNSPEC with 0 before but still failed
09:46.00yowMirell: Just for the record, I've tried PF_UNIX, PF_LOCAL, AF_LOCAL, & SOCK_DGRAM but all failed.
09:46.04MirellHmm.
09:49.44yowMirell: could it be something missing in the uClinux kernel when the developer compiled (make menuconfig) the kernel? Some option(s) has been missing or has not been selected?
09:50.17Mirellyow: Unix Domain Sockets enabled?
09:51.48yowMirell: That's one of the possbile causes which I suspect, i.e. AF_UNIX is not available, but, do u know which (make menuconfig) option is needed for that?
09:52.51Mirell<PROTECTED>
09:52.53mnemocCONFIG_UNIX
09:52.55Mirell<PROTECTED>
09:52.59Mirell<PROTECTED>
09:53.03Mirell<PROTECTED>
09:53.07Mirell<PROTECTED>
09:53.11Mirell<PROTECTED>
09:53.15MirellGah
09:53.18MirellThat was a horrible, horrible paste
09:53.20MirellSorry.
09:53.33mnemoc=)
09:53.37yowMirell: it's ok, thanks, let me figure it out now...
09:57.30yowMirell: Sorry, a stupid question from me: Which file should I check to find out the above info? Is it the Makefile, config.in, or?
09:57.59MirellFor your kernel config?
09:58.58MirellWere you given the source of it?
09:59.07yowMirell: Yes. I mean which file should I check under uClinux-dist/ to find out the `make config' options or features which have been selected or enabled by the developer
09:59.27Mirellyow: I'm unsure. I don't use uClinux
09:59.41Mirellyow: grep -r "CONFIG_UNIX" *
09:59.46Mirellyow: It'll find it eventually. ^^
10:00.11yowMirell: I'm afraid I do not have the complete source as the developer would keep it as "secret"
10:00.27yowMirell: let me try the grep command.
10:00.47Mirellyow: By any bizarre chance, is there a /proc/config.gz on the board when it's running?
10:01.38yowMirell: let me look for /proc/config.gz now
10:04.09yowMirell: Shall I copy&paste the ouput of the `grep -r CONFIG_UNIX uClinux-dist/' command to http://www.pastebin.ca/ for you to have a quick look? it may be easy for you to spot the line you want
10:04.33MirellSure
10:04.49yowMirell: Thanks, please wait.
10:08.16yowMirell: Here you are: http://www.pastebin.ca/1770552
10:09.40Mirellyow: No /proc/config.gz I take it?
10:09.56yowMirell: pls wait.
10:10.16Mirellyow: And you're running Linux 2.4 it looks like
10:10.44yowMIrell: Is this what we after: /mnt/vm/uClinux-dist/linux-2.4.x/.config:# CONFIG_UNIX is not set
10:10.50MirellLooks it
10:11.15yowMirell: Hope you don't mind to have a look at this: http://imagebin.ca/view/fyQ41w.html
10:11.37Mirell"Unix Domain Sockets"
10:11.49MirellThat would most distinctly cause your issue.
10:13.00MirellEnable that sucker.
10:13.14yowMirell: Im afraid the "Unix Domain Sockets" keyword is not available in http://www.pastebin.ca/1770552. So?
10:13.39yowMirell: Thanks, How can I miss that!!!!
10:13.40Mirellyow: On the menuconfig you pasted
10:13.43MirellHeh.
10:13.58MirellIt happens.
10:14.03yowMirell: Really? let me find again.
10:14.25Mirellyow: Right above TCP/IP Networking
10:14.33mnemocvi .config is simpler
10:14.39MirellThat too.
10:14.56MirellBut since he was four cursor-downs in the screenshot..
10:15.11mnemoc:)
10:16.06yowMirell: I sued less instead of vim just now and I missed it due to the different character "case" :)
10:16.26yowMirell: /mnt/vm/uClinux-dist/linux-2.4.x/net/Config.in:tristate 'Unix domain sockets' CONFIG_UNIX
10:16.41Mirellyow: You don't want to edit Config.in
10:17.14Mirellyow: Just enable it in the menuconfig you had open
10:17.19yowMirell: I found only the above line which contain the keyword but it doesn't say if it's selected or not. Am I missing anything?
10:17.48mnemocgosh :(
10:17.56Mirellyow: Right, Config.in are the files that generate the menuconfig.
10:18.07Mirellyow: /mnt/vm/uClinux-dist/linux-2.4.x/.config is the file is your config
10:18.15yowMirell: I think I know now, however, i have no control over that. What I can do is to feedback this info and request the developer to do it for me instead :(
10:18.20Mirellyow: # CONFIG_UNIX is not set
10:18.26Mirellyow: Which says it wasn't enabled.
10:18.43Mirellyow: How come you can't compile the kernel yourself?
10:19.06yowMirell: The source is not "opened" :(
10:19.07mnemocyow: mail the mighty developer and ask him to press the space bar at "Unix domain sockets" for you
10:19.12MirellHmm.
10:19.19MirellYou can try compiling it as a module.
10:19.40yowMirell: that's what Im going to do if I have no other choice
10:19.57yowMirell: Can I? Do you mind to teach me how to do that?
10:20.40yowMirell: Or, give me a pointer or some documentation so that I  can read it myself, if it's not that easy to explain here
10:21.13mnemocit's [ ] ... modules are disabled
10:21.30mnemocerr
10:22.13yowMirell: Before we carry on, can you tell me the exact line in http://www.pastebin.ca/1770552, which tells us that "UNIX Domain Socket" is not compiled in the kernel?
10:22.29Mirellmnemoc: Ah, you're right.
10:22.39mnemocyow: 17
10:22.46Mirellyow: /mnt/vm/uClinux-dist/linux-2.4.x/.config:# CONFIG_UNIX is not set
10:23.41MirellAlthough.
10:23.46yowMirell: Do you mean I can re-compile the uClinux-dist and have the "UNIX Domain Sockets" ONLY in it and run it as a module on the target board?
10:23.53MirellWait.
10:23.59MirellMy brain is tired.
10:24.09MirellHow in the world are you getting a "closed source" Linux kernel?
10:24.11yowMirell: Thanks
10:24.34yowMirell: Probably cos I'm now in Taiwan?!
10:24.58MirellThat still doesn't make it legal.
10:25.31yowMirell: I know the developer has to "open" the source code by law but I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to press them though.
10:25.46MirellMmm.
10:25.51MirellAnyways, tell him to enable that.
10:25.54yowMirell: I'd be in heaven if they would let me have the source.
10:26.17mnemocyow: and what are you grepping if you don't have the source?
10:26.23yowMirell: I'm not even sure they would enable that for me as I'm not their BIG client!
10:27.30Mirellmnemoc: Quick, write a user-space daemon for UDS
10:27.37MirellThat should take, what, four hours?
10:27.43yowMirell: I was grepping the "stardard" source. That implies our discussion so far is just a guess, however, I'm pretty sure that's the cause. Sorry for didn't make this clear before.
10:28.21Mirellyow: So, do you compile anything from this source tree?
10:29.11yowMirell: No. I write AP using the standard lib or the small APIs provided by the developer
10:29.49MirellMmm.
10:30.22yowMirell: I'm afraid writing a "user-space daemon for UDS" is beyond me for the time being as I do not even know what it is.
10:30.26mnemocfile a bug report to your vendor and make your app bind a local tcp port instead of an UDS for now
10:31.42yowMIrell: Do you mean I should use socket() to create a socket pair using PF_INET instead of PF_UNIX for the time being?
10:31.59Mirellyow: Right.
10:32.42yowMirell: Just for your info, I tried using INET with socketpair() but I think it failed
10:33.13Mirellyow: Did you change the address family?
10:34.22Mirellyow: AF_INET, instead of AF_UNIX
10:34.29yowMirell: I used: if (socketpair(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0, sv) == -1)
10:35.56mnemocnot socketpair, socket
10:36.13mnemocsocketpair is UDS-only
10:36.35yowMirell: ok. anyway, i suspect that AF_UNIX is not supported by socketpair(), am i right?
10:36.51yowMirell: ic
10:37.00mnemocAF_UNIX is not suppored by your "closed source" kernel
10:37.24yowMIrell: Mmm
10:37.34MirellDude, mnemoc is also talking.
10:37.35mnemoc.oO( when did i become Mirell? )o
10:37.38MirellIt's not just me.
10:37.39MirellHeh
10:37.51mnemoc^^
10:38.01MirellTab-completion FTW
10:38.29mnemochehe
10:38.56yowmnemoc: Sorryyyyy, guess either my eyes or my mind is not working properly now :)
10:38.57mnemocMirell: btw, shouldn't you be *sleeping* ?
10:39.05MirellYeah...
10:39.10MirellShit.
10:39.15MirellIt's 4:43
10:39.23mnemocgood night ;-)
10:39.25MirellNah
10:39.33MirellBy this point, might as well stay up
10:39.40yowmnemoc: it's 18:39 over here now
10:39.46MirellHead into work at 6, stay till 3, and come home and sleep
10:40.24mnemoc:\
10:40.28yowMirell: may i know where u r from?
10:40.42Mirellyow: Tejas.
10:40.58yowmnemoc: may i know where r u from too?
10:41.02mnemocfunny i have the same time delta with both
10:41.08mnemocspain
10:41.41yowMirell: Tejas == Texas?
10:41.59Mirellyow: Si.
10:42.04yowMirrel: are you french?
10:42.17mnemocyow: in spanish is pronounced with 'j'
10:42.18Mirell...the thought of that cracks me up.
10:42.30yowMirell: what do u mean by "Tab-completion FTW"?
10:42.33MirellOUI I AM A FRENCHMAN IN TEXAS, OUI OUI
10:42.40mnemoc=)
10:42.41Mirell...yah, no.
10:42.41yowMirell: Why?
10:42.56mnemoc.oO
10:43.01Mirellyow: Just joking with you.
10:43.58mnemocyow: FTW=for the win
10:43.59yowMirell: ic, however, i think some ppl must be using some sort of script to have the names of the chatters keyed in the simpler way?
10:44.14mnemocyow: people uses irc clients with good tab completion algorithms
10:44.33MirellSometimes I try to tab complete a sentence.
10:44.43MirellEven though there's absolutely no way any program could do so,
10:44.48yowmnemoc: ic. im using xchat, does it has this feature?
10:44.56MirellI just try for a second, because my brain wants it to.
10:45.03Mirell"Tab complete my thoughts, damnit!"
10:45.04mnemocprobably, try m<tab>
10:45.21yowooo it works!
10:45.39mnemocMirell: it's a natural reflex.. like using vi shortcuts on the location bar of the browser :<
10:45.39yowI tried a couple of minutes before but it didn't work
10:46.10mnemocsome irc clients only accept it at the begining of the line
10:46.39yowmnemoc: i think xchat does
10:47.20yowmnemoc: but it ends with a comma instead of a collon :(
10:47.52yowmnemoc: have that fixed :)
10:48.02mnemocgood
10:48.07yowmnemoc: thanks
10:48.22yowmnemoc: So, you're certain that using socket() to create a pair of sockets using PF_INET and use it in ntpd.c will work?
10:49.10yowMirell: still there? Sorry, forgot to say `Good Night' to you. Thank you very much for your help & advice too. Many thanks.
10:50.48MirellSure
10:51.01Mirellmnemoc: That's what Vimperator is for.
10:51.06Mirellmnemoc: Duh
10:51.55mnemocMirell: woh, i didn't know it. thanks! :)
10:53.21MirellIt is the awesomeness.
10:53.58yowMirell: Never heard of Vimperator before this.
10:55.39yowMirell: Just to confirm with you again. So, you're certain that I can compile UDS as a module and use it on the ARM board?
10:55.57mnemocyow: you will need to change more than one line to switch from socketpair(AF_UNIX) to socket(AF_INET)
10:56.35yowMirell: For your info, all the directories are read only except for /usr & /flash
10:57.06Mirellyow: No, you can't compile as a module, since your "closed-source" kernel apparently doesn't have module support.
10:57.23yowmnemoc: do you mean I need to change more lines for the OpenNTPD source?
10:57.38yowMirell: ic
10:58.23mnemocyow: all this is probably *far* off-topic for this channel. you may want to try #elinux or #dev instead next time. but first get a book about network programming.
10:59.27yowmnemoc: Thanks for the info. Actually, I was wondering which room I should go before asking my questions at the beginning
11:00.10yowmnemoc: i'll get a book on the subject. btw, is there any that you recommend?
11:00.43mnemocstevens' unix network programming volume 1 is the classic text of the topic
11:01.30yowmnemoc: Thanks, i'll check it out
11:02.04mnemocyw
11:03.39yowMirell & mnemoc: Thanks for your help thus far. I'm going to give a ring to my mum in Malaysia (I'm Malaysian) now.
11:04.24yowMirell & mnemoc: ttul
11:04.51mnemoccu
11:08.09yowMirell: Sorry that I fogotten to look for /proc/config.gz on the ARM target board just now. anyway, it's not there
11:08.19Mirellyow: 'sall right
11:10.10yowMirell: The reason why i forgot is because i need to SSH to my FC3 server before I can telnet to the baord. however, the SSH server on FC3 is either buggy or is not configured properly/correctly by me as it always take several minutes and a couple of attempts before I can ssh to it!
11:12.00yowMirell: Once the first SSH connection returns a password prompt, it'll be quick to make further SSH connections until the following day (have all connections closed over-night).
11:12.19yowMirell: anyway, that's a different matter.
11:22.25yowMirell & mnemoc: Mum has gone to bed.
11:22.35yowBTW, is there any book you recommend for learning about the (GNU) (Auto)Make & (Auto)Configure? Is there any quick startup guide?
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11:32.16MirellNot really.
11:32.28MirellThey're all about the same as beating your head against a concrete wall.
11:33.19yowMirell: ic :(
11:33.37yowMirell: probably im too old for that, i wonder...
11:35.46yowMirell: im going to be 41 on the first day of Chinese New Year :(
11:36.32yowMirell: I bet you & mnemoc are considerably younger than me :)
11:56.25MirellDon't know about mnemoc
11:56.29MirellI'm mid-20s.
11:58.28yowMirell: Good for you! I really think I started off too late :(
11:59.52yowMirell: Wodering if I can make enough money to marry a wife and start a family... :( :)
12:01.47yowMirell: It's 20:01 over here now, I better go to have my dinner now before the (cheap) food store close :)
12:02.27yowMirell: Thanks again. im going to shutdown my computer in order to "save the world" and some money :)
12:02.37yowMirell: Take good care & bye now
12:07.15yowMirell: p.s.: Try not to go to bed so late so often as you'll put your body/health at risk!! im suffering from that now. Eat properly too.
12:07.23yowbye everyone
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12:16.56MirellLord.
12:17.10MirellFriendly enough, at least.
12:17.33Mirell*dies*
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12:26.59natarajHi
12:27.54nataraj"make linux26-menuconfig" comes with  CONFIG_MTD_NAND_ATMEL_ECC_HW=y
12:28.01natarajin BR
12:29.12natarajdoes it mean the resulting "buildroot-2009.11/output/images/rootfs.arm.jffs2" will be suited for Hardware ECC?
12:30.58natarajjust to know all three 1)u-boot 2}rootfs.arm.jffs2 3)uImage  are well 'aligned'  or just separately built
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20:32.22blindvthi
20:34.08dougmenckenhello
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20:38.34y_morinhi!
20:38.38austinfhi!
20:39.05dougmenckengood news: it's friday
20:39.16austinfno kidding :)
20:39.28dougmenckenno, really
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21:55.02blindvtaustinf, bad news is that today was the funeral of one of my grandmas. Bad slice, but that's how life goes
21:55.28austinfblindvt, very sad
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22:03.08y_morinblindvt: my sincere sympathy...
22:07.59blindvty_morin, thanks alot
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