| 17:36:57 | aaronl | andresee |
| 17:37:08 | aaronl | what is wrong with andre hedrick? |
| 17:37:14 | aaronl | did you see the mail he sent to me" |
| 17:48:02 | andersee | Seemed pretty incoherant... |
| 18:21:25 | chillywilly | anyone home? |
| 18:22:08 | andersee | nope |
| 18:22:13 | chillywilly | ah |
| 18:22:16 | andersee | nobody here but us chickens. |
| 18:22:17 | andersee | :) |
| 18:22:28 | andersee | What can I do for you |
| 18:22:49 | chillywilly | hey what's the name of that guy you said I should talk to about hardware to buils a Linux fire alarm panel? |
| 18:23:09 | andersee | forgets the conversation |
| 18:23:20 | chillywilly | after your WOPN interview I asked |
| 18:23:22 | andersee | What sortof hardware do you need built? |
| 18:23:34 | chillywilly | doesn't matter anything that will work |
| 18:23:43 | chillywilly | ;P |
| 18:25:05 | andersee | Hmm. Systems need an mmu? |
| 18:25:05 | chillywilly | has to have inputs for the device loops and outputs for the signal circuits and aux relays |
| 18:25:10 | andersee | Do you need Linux on it? Maybe you could save money and use a PIC microcontroller? |
| 18:25:14 | chillywilly | well I'd like to develop some Free software for such a system....currently I have none so there no requirements ;) |
| 18:26:09 | chillywilly | wellt he new systems they got now have a graphical display and I think they are running winblows on them (probably CE) |
| 18:26:49 | chillywilly | touch screen display |
| 18:26:56 | andersee | Ahh |
| 18:27:16 | andersee | So Linux would work then |
| 18:27:22 | chillywilly | yea |
| 18:29:45 | chillywilly | http://www.simplexgrinnell.com/fire/products/4120.jsp |
| 18:29:55 | chillywilly | that's the new panel at work |
| 18:32:12 | andersee | Hmm |
| 18:32:15 | chillywilly | I think that's it...at any rate it has a nice graphical touch creen disply thing built right into the FACP |
| 18:32:33 | chillywilly | I was jst wondering how fun it would be to bild a Linux-based one on my own ;) |
| 18:32:49 | chillywilly | s/wondering/thinking/ |
| 18:32:56 | andersee | Hard to recommend something general for such a specific application |
| 18:33:14 | chillywilly | well the hardware part is my only problem ;) |
| 18:33:47 | chillywilly | hell it doesn't even have to have a graphical display I suppose just somehting that runs Linux would be fun in itself |
| 18:34:06 | chillywilly | I don't want to spend a ton of money on hardware anyway |
| 18:37:53 | andersee | chillywilly: I recall BZFlag has some cheap flat screen touch panel Linux boxes... |
| 18:38:16 | chillywilly | hmmm, cool |
| 18:39:55 | chillywilly | define "cheap" ;) |
| 18:40:12 | chillywilly | and where can I get such a thing ;) |
| 18:41:57 | andersee | chillywilly: ask BZFlag. :-) |
| 18:42:32 | chillywilly | well I was hoping he was watching |
| 18:42:57 | chillywilly | BZFlag: you have some cheap flat screen touch panel Linux boxes? |
| 18:51:51 | chillywilly | http://www.elotouch.com/Support/linux.asp |
| 18:52:01 | chillywilly | interesting link there |
| 18:53:41 | aaronl | hi andersee |
| 18:53:52 | aaronl | can you answer my question :) |
| 18:53:53 | andersee | aaronl: hey |
| 18:54:25 | andersee | The one about what is wrong with Andre? |
| 18:54:30 | aaronl | yeah |
| 18:54:53 | andersee | nope. 'fraid that is beyond my limited capacity |
| 18:54:57 | andersee | ;-) |
| 18:55:07 | aaronl | i didnt even respond to the email he sent me |
| 18:55:10 | aaronl | i don't understand it at all |
| 18:55:26 | aaronl | i was suggesting that people pay more attention to size in the kernel |
| 18:55:31 | aaronl | and he flamed me |
| 18:58:40 | andersee | Yup. Was pretty incoherent... |
| 18:58:46 | andersee | I didn't get his point |
| 18:58:54 | aaronl | nor did i |
| 18:58:55 | andersee | If he had one |
| 18:59:11 | aaronl | best of all, he enclosed it in some kind of <sarcasm> tag |
| 19:11:53 | BZFlag | chillywilly: andersee means the TuxScreen. They are gone. |
| 19:12:50 | andersee | BZFlag: nono. You were pointing me to some portable little Crusoe powered thingees a while back, right? |
| 19:44:04 | BZFlag | ah yeah. http://mira2go.com/ |
| 19:44:47 | chillywilly | looks |
| 19:45:47 | chillywilly | how big is that? |
| 19:45:52 | chillywilly | like the size of a PDA? |
| 20:05:31 | BZFlag | no. web pad == laptop sized. |
| 20:07:26 | BZFlag | http://www.aquapad.org/ also |
| 21:11:41 | andersee | aaronl: BTW Andre thought he was flaming someone else.... |
| 21:15:37 | andersee | aaronl: Just spoke with him on the phone -- He said he thought he was flaming "Gigi Duru"... |
| 21:52:24 | aaronl | hahahahah oops |
| 21:52:32 | aaronl | but that's not logical |
| 21:52:45 | aaronl | Gigi Duru didnt mention Mozilla |
| 21:52:55 | aaronl | I did |
| 22:31:08 | aaronl | interesting |
| 22:31:12 | aaronl | i got an apology from andre |
| 22:31:28 | jacques | hello all |
| 22:37:04 | andersee | aaronl: hehe, cool |
| 22:37:10 | andersee | jacques: evening |
| 22:42:57 | jacques | hi andersee |
| 22:43:02 | jacques | glibc is really pissing me off |
| 22:43:10 | jacques | wrong channel I know :-) |
| 22:43:35 | jacques | I simply canot get it to link on ARM native when building with gcc 3.2 |
| 22:44:20 | aaronl | andersee: are you going to support that new threads implementation in uClibc? |
| 22:47:39 | andersee | jacques: I've done it.... |
| 22:47:56 | andersee | aaronl: Not until 2.6/3.0 is released and stable. |
| 22:48:07 | andersee | aaronl: Since it requires the new kernel |
| 22:48:12 | aaronl | ya |
| 22:48:20 | aaronl | will be nice to have a decent pthreads... |
| 22:48:28 | andersee | aaronl: Or if someone ports all the needed stuff back to 2.4.x |
| 22:48:40 | jacques | andersee: you have???? |
| 22:49:15 | jacques | andersee: what can you tell me about it? or did it "just work" for you? |
| 22:49:51 | jacques | I have been fighting this for a solid week - maybe longer |
| 22:50:10 | jacques | I have tried 5 or more different versions of binutils |
| 22:52:19 | jacques | and it's over 2 hours into the glibc compile when it fails, so this has not been a quick process |
| 22:56:20 | jacques | :-( |