| 00:20.33 | atoponce | google talk is now on my hit list |
| 00:20.58 | atoponce | they are an enemy to your freedom |
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| 00:57.17 | Gate | Zelut: if you get an EEE PC let me know, I have been curious about them and I know people who would want them if they are as advertized. |
| 00:57.34 | Gate | at least now that the GPL violations are dealt with... |
| 01:00.58 | Zelut | i'm here and nobody else is.. |
| 01:01.16 | atoponce | well, it is 18:01... |
| 01:01.28 | atoponce | then again |
| 01:01.50 | Zelut | i hoped Omar was here at least |
| 01:03.50 | Gate_Laptop | Zelut: do you know if tonight is going to be streamed? I am very interested..... |
| 01:04.15 | Zelut | it should be, yeah. |
| 01:04.37 | Gate_Laptop | cool |
| 01:04.46 | Zelut | i'm talking about ssh server and client, plus local reverse and dynamic forwarding/tunneling |
| 01:05.19 | Gate_Laptop | cool :) I am always interested in encryption |
| 01:05.48 | Gate_Laptop | first real test if my newly working sound! |
| 01:05.49 | Zelut | not a lot of encryption technically speaking, just implementation |
| 01:06.11 | Gate_Laptop | I am alright with the practical approach |
| 01:11.07 | Zelut | sounds like we're going to have a late start |
| 01:35.10 | Zelut | still no Omar |
| 01:38.37 | Gate_Laptop | anyone else there at all? |
| 01:39.07 | Zelut | yeah we're all waiting |
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| 01:51.45 | Zelut | here we go |
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| 02:02.50 | herlo | me points out that the stream is live and available at http://stream.utosf.org:8080/ |
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| 02:17.40 | Hearts|laptop | Gate_Laptop: ping |
| 02:17.58 | Gate_Laptop | Hearts|laptop: pong |
| 02:19.08 | Hearts|laptop | Hey you have VLC? |
| 02:19.15 | Gate_Laptop | yeah |
| 02:19.17 | Hearts|laptop | and do you have a sec? |
| 02:19.20 | Gate_Laptop | sure |
| 02:19.45 | Hearts|laptop | http://stream.utosf.org:8080/ |
| 02:19.56 | Gate_Laptop | already listening to it |
| 02:20.00 | Hearts|laptop | Cool |
| 02:20.05 | Gate_Laptop | in VLC, no less |
| 02:20.15 | Hearts|laptop | what about no more |
| 02:20.24 | Gate_Laptop | but I don't want to turn it off :( |
| 02:20.48 | Hearts|laptop | k |
| 02:21.04 | Gate_Laptop | if you need me to test something, I am all for it. |
| 02:21.23 | Hearts|laptop | no that was it |
| 02:21.26 | Gate_Laptop | ok |
| 02:23.50 | Gate_Laptop | I presume they are talking about ssh-server configuration right now? |
| 02:24.00 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: btw, the podcast will be up early next week on podcast.utosf.org |
| 02:24.05 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: yep |
| 02:24.07 | Gate_Laptop | awesome |
| 02:24.13 | Gate_Laptop | thanks! |
| 02:24.47 | Gate_Laptop | herlo: is there going to be another meeting before jan 11? |
| 02:24.50 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: can you hear it well? |
| 02:24.56 | Gate_Laptop | fine |
| 02:25.04 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: cool, the meets are the Second Saturday |
| 02:25.09 | Gate_Laptop | sounds a little queit, but manageable |
| 02:25.25 | Gate_Laptop | cool, I may be able to make it next month |
| 02:25.26 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: just turned it up... |
| 02:27.27 | herlo | Hearts|laptop: you are fired! |
| 02:27.35 | herlo | ~fire Hearts|laptop |
| 02:27.36 | jbot | I'm sorry, Hearts|laptop, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 02:27.39 | Hearts|laptop | Sorry!!! |
| 02:27.43 | herlo | hehe |
| 02:27.48 | Hearts|laptop | Why am I fired? |
| 02:27.57 | herlo | you are noisy, and Gate_Laptop can't hear |
| 02:28.25 | Hearts|laptop | What? |
| 02:28.31 | Hearts|laptop | Lies |
| 02:28.54 | Hearts|laptop | I see no complaints |
| 02:29.49 | Gate_Laptop | ~/ is our friend |
| 02:29.49 | jbot | ...but / is already something else... |
| 02:30.00 | Yorokobi | Hearts|laptop, I can hear you and I'm not even there or listening to the stream. :) |
| 02:30.46 | herlo | efficient is spelled this way.... |
| 02:31.17 | herlo | haha |
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| 02:34.08 | herlo | Yorokobi: Zelut is talking about fish! |
| 02:34.49 | Yorokobi | fish or fish:// ? |
| 02:35.20 | herlo | Yorokobi: fish:// |
| 02:35.24 | herlo | and fish |
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| 02:37.49 | Gate_Laptop | machine identifier |
| 02:39.11 | Gate_Laptop | thanks for being my voice :) |
| 02:39.53 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: that's my job, soon to be Hearts|laptop's |
| 02:39.58 | Hearts|laptop | yep |
| 02:40.09 | herlo | Hearts|laptop: lets look at your xml config for ices |
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| 03:12.36 | Gate_Laptop | It makes a decent network probing tool as well |
| 03:12.46 | Gate_Laptop | seen it used that way effectively |
| 03:12.58 | Gate_Laptop | you can ssh into your iPod ffs..... |
| 03:13.37 | Gate_Laptop | and then there was silence. |
| 03:14.40 | Zelut | any questions from IRC? |
| 03:16.36 | Yorokobi | Have you gone over the SSH escape char and available commands? ie, ~C ? |
| 03:18.12 | Zelut | Yorokobi: yeah, those are on the slides |
| 03:21.21 | mheath | Hmm |
| 03:21.34 | mheath | Is there a way to get non-acrobat PDF readers to integrate into Firefox? |
| 03:22.39 | mheath | (Not a question for the presenter...heh. No idea what you guys are presenting on, just got off work :( |
| 03:23.11 | herlo | mheath: no |
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| 04:52.55 | musashi | hmm, looks like maybe Zelut is away... |
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| 06:26.01 | Gate_Laptop | Anyone feel like having a funeral with me? My loyal laptop of the last several years, that has carried me from my days of windows power-user to full-time Linux user. And now I must hand it down to someone else with windows on it :( |
| 06:30.03 | Gate_Laptop | I feel like I am betraying it's evolution |
| 06:30.12 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: don't do it! |
| 06:31.21 | undertakingyou | Gate_Laptop: I'll do a funeral with you. |
| 06:31.43 | herlo | undertakingyou: the mortician |
| 06:32.03 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 06:35.48 | findlay | Gate_Laptop: I'll take it and make sure it'll never be sullied by windows again :) |
| 06:36.53 | findlay | ghostview would embed in netscrape |
| 06:37.37 | findlay | I rember those days. Nothing looked as nice as that fry sauce colored gv |
| 06:42.12 | Heartsbane | what is GV? |
| 06:44.46 | herlo | ~lart findlay for being so vague |
| 06:44.46 | jbot | beats findlay senseless with a 50lb Unix manual for being so vague |
| 06:53.12 | mheath | findlay: Ghostview is not enough. |
| 06:53.47 | mheath | you'd have to use pdf2ps wouldn't you? Or some kind of auto-filter that does similar. |
| 06:54.03 | mheath | Breaks some of the pdf features I need |
| 07:14.46 | Heartsbane | atoponce: ping |
| 07:15.23 | atoponce | Heartsbane: pong (on palm) |
| 07:16.54 | Heartsbane | PM |
| 07:17.12 | Heartsbane | just so you have something to listen to on the plane |
| 07:20.41 | atoponce | ahh sweet. thx |
| 07:24.33 | Heartsbane | yep |
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| 07:32.57 | Heartsbane | onjoin #ubuntu-us-ut -heartsbane I go to church |
| 07:33.16 | Heartsbane | ~onjoin #ubuntu-us-ut -heartsbane I go to church |
| 07:33.16 | jbot | ok, Heartsbane |
| 07:33.20 | Heartsbane | Thank you |
| 07:33.35 | atoponce | :) |
| 07:33.40 | maquis | onjoin #ubuntu-us-ut -heartsbane |
| 07:33.45 | maquis | ~onjoin #ubuntu-us-ut -heartsbane |
| 07:33.45 | jbot | ok, maquis |
| 07:34.15 | Heartsbane | ~onjoin Heartsbane I don't want to sound weird or anything but ... |
| 07:34.15 | jbot | Heartsbane: ok |
| 07:34.38 | Heartsbane | lets see what Zelut thinks of that |
| 07:34.51 | herlo | Heartsbane: you must have at least 15 pieces of flare |
| 07:35.03 | atoponce | heh |
| 07:35.39 | herlo | atoponce: We need you to come on in tomorrow.... alrighty... |
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| 07:36.11 | herlo | atoponce: It's not a half-day or anything... |
| 07:36.20 | atoponce | sorry, but the tps reports suck |
| 07:36.48 | herlo | you need to turn them in anyway, and make sure to include the cover sheets this time |
| 07:37.03 | herlo | did you get the memo? |
| 07:37.22 | herlo | I can send you a copy of the memo in your email |
| 07:37.38 | atoponce | while you're at it, will you take care of the rats? |
| 07:39.12 | herlo | meh |
| 07:44.49 | Gate_Laptop | atoponce: so how long exactly do you spend doing these "TPS" reports? |
| 07:53.47 | atoponce | the thing is bob, is that i'm not lazy, i just don't care |
| 07:55.59 | findlay | ~confuse herlo |
| 07:56.01 | jbot | yes who are their bacon yesterday ? |
| 07:59.39 | herlo | jbot: the real questions is which who is not in their bacon tomorrow |
| 07:59.40 | jbot | herlo: okay |
| 07:59.57 | herlo | ~the real questions |
| 08:00.13 | herlo | ~the |
| 08:00.23 | herlo | ~questions |
| 08:00.23 | jbot | remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people. <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> |
| 08:04.17 | atoponce | The ration of people to cake is too big |
| 08:04.24 | atoponce | s/n// |
| 08:04.42 | findlay | got to love ESR for pithy sagacities like that |
| 08:06.00 | Heartsbane | Well you know you could institute the 'Soylent Green' Policy |
| 08:06.44 | Heartsbane | and solve that problem by making people == cake |
| 08:27.23 | Heartsbane | yes but it tastes so good |
| 08:27.36 | Gate_Laptop | Its so delicious and moist. |
| 08:30.26 | findlay | so my apartment doesn't have an air filter on the furnace |
| 08:30.29 | findlay | none |
| 08:30.54 | findlay | and the air ducts are coated with 50-60 years worth of dirt and dust |
| 08:31.01 | findlay | seriously, this place is old |
| 08:31.24 | Gate_Laptop | findlay: that's OK, my heater hasn't worked since thanksgiving |
| 08:31.44 | findlay | every time the furnace turns on a plume of dust, spores, and pathogens slowly permeates from each vent |
| 08:31.49 | Gate_Laptop | although the dust would be just as annoying |
| 08:31.55 | findlay | and it dries out my throat at night |
| 08:32.03 | findlay | and because of it I'm sick now |
| 08:32.07 | Gate_Laptop | eeew. I am never coming to your house.... ever. |
| 08:32.44 | findlay | the management of this place is despicable. They won't fix anything until it crumbles into a fetid, malignant ruin |
| 08:32.56 | Gate_Laptop | bah. I forgot how damned much handholding WinXP needs to get simple things like PDF readers and Office programs |
| 08:33.21 | findlay | windows? Do people still use *that*?! |
| 08:33.41 | Gate_Laptop | you just described 90% of managers, with 9% of the remainder who will never fix it, even then. |
| 08:34.03 | Gate_Laptop | have to install it for my sister.... :( |
| 08:34.25 | findlay | they don't even seem to care that we live in a decrepit ruin |
| 08:34.46 | findlay | and this is supposed to be BYU approved ... not |
| 08:35.09 | Gate_Laptop | no multiple desktops, no wget, no apt-get, no Firefox by default no Gimp by default..... Dear God I am spoiled on Linux |
| 08:35.12 | findlay | Gate_Laptop: tell her to get out of the dark ages and throw away the playskool OS :) |
| 08:35.52 | Gate_Laptop | she refuses to try Open Office a second time because she is convinced it was OOO's fault her spreadsheets got messed up |
| 08:36.16 | Gate_Laptop | so she won't use Linux. and I *have* to give her this laptop |
| 08:37.27 | findlay | have her use gnumeric :) |
| 08:37.35 | findlay | way faster than OOOOOO |
| 08:37.35 | Gate_Laptop | never tried it. |
| 08:37.47 | Gate_Laptop | hmmmm, so not in *shudder* Java then? |
| 08:37.49 | findlay | it's nice |
| 08:38.00 | findlay | C mostly |
| 08:38.29 | findlay | abiword, koffice |
| 08:38.44 | findlay | standards, man. They all use ODF |
| 08:39.36 | Gate_Laptop | hear hear! |
| 08:41.33 | Gate_Laptop | Windows: once my home for a decade, now feels so.... foreign. |
| 08:48.28 | Gate_Laptop | Yay! I get to be treated like a criminal for buying their software! |
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| 17:27.26 | Zelut | morning |
| 17:35.27 | atoponce | Zelut: ping |
| 17:44.16 | Zelut | atoponce: pong |
| 17:49.31 | atoponce | Zelut: how do we know where the training centers are for guru courses? |
| 17:49.55 | atoponce | i'm teaching in dallas, and based on the signature of the guy i've been emailing, i'm making an educated guess |
| 17:50.55 | Zelut | atoponce: addresses should all be in ogo |
| 17:51.30 | Zelut | morning before I ship out I go to ogo & print out that page, print out the maps between those locations and check-in and print the ticket. |
| 17:51.37 | Zelut | ..but you should have everything you need in there |
| 17:51.40 | Zelut | bbiab - getting breakfast |
| 17:52.29 | atoponce | yeah. that's what i'm doing is printing maps. wanted to make sure that i'm headed the right direction. :) |
| 17:52.56 | atoponce | ok. cool. looks like i was right |
| 18:01.54 | Zelut | I don't fly out tonite until 7:30pm.. almost actually get a full day here |
| 18:13.07 | atoponce | i'm out at 5 |
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| 18:58.06 | herlo | atoponce: me too |
| 18:59.39 | atoponce | herlo: Zelut: another question about gl courses |
| 19:00.11 | atoponce | do the students fill out a survey like the rh courses? if so, how do i deliver that survey? |
| 19:00.26 | herlo | they do, usually its a paper survey given by the TC |
| 19:00.38 | herlo | you should just ask them about it on Monday |
| 19:00.51 | atoponce | ok. what about a certificate. don't the students get one for attending a gl class? |
| 19:01.06 | herlo | that should also be provided by the TC |
| 19:01.14 | herlo | you'll probably have to sign them |
| 19:01.30 | atoponce | is there anything i need to print out or bring to the training center besides my book? |
| 19:01.47 | herlo | nope |
| 19:02.05 | herlo | btw, I usually teach from the pdfs instead of bringing a book, its much more convenient |
| 19:02.25 | atoponce | ok |
| 19:07.04 | herlo | atoponce: my flight actually leaves at 4:55pm tonight, wanna hang out at the airport? |
| 19:07.39 | atoponce | yeah. that'll work. i leave at 5:10. meet up at 3? |
| 19:08.09 | herlo | sounds good, which concourse are you in? |
| 19:08.33 | atoponce | dunno. haven't checked in yet |
| 19:08.53 | herlo | k, call me when you get through security... |
| 19:09.18 | herlo | you could come hang out in the Crown Room w/me if you like, its between c & d concourses |
| 19:09.41 | atoponce | ok |
| 19:10.45 | herlo | unless you wanna get food |
| 19:16.55 | atoponce | i'll give you a ring |
| 19:17.05 | herlo | k |
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| 19:48.00 | Traveler97 | Hello everyone |
| 19:48.51 | Traveler97 | Please chat with me as I have some questions that need to be answered |
| 19:49.29 | herlo | Traveler97: I'd probably suggest that you put the questions out there and if anyone can answer they will... |
| 19:49.43 | herlo | or they will point you in the right direction, at least |
| 19:50.33 | Traveler97 | I was able to download ubuntu and burn it to a cd. I was not able to setup the wifi for my internet connection |
| 19:51.25 | Traveler97 | I have been trying to download linux 2.0.8 and after 36 hours, I am still only about 65% complete |
| 19:51.44 | herlo | 2.0.8? that's a bit old |
| 19:51.45 | Zelut | what is linux 2.0.8? |
| 19:52.21 | Traveler97 | I want to have the better wifi support that linux 2.0.8 is suppose to have built into the program |
| 19:52.44 | Traveler97 | This is a freespire program |
| 19:52.47 | herlo | Traveler97: where did you get this "linux 2.0.8" |
| 19:53.18 | Traveler97 | http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Download_Freespire |
| 19:53.39 | herlo | freespire != ubuntu |
| 19:53.50 | Traveler97 | it uses ubuntu 7.04 for the base |
| 19:54.12 | Zelut | Traveler97: agreed. If you need Freespire help this is probably not the best place. I might look for a Freespire channel or something |
| 19:55.14 | atoponce | Traveler97: /join #freespire |
| 19:56.00 | Traveler97 | I do belong to freespire and have not gotten any real answers so far |
| 19:56.37 | atoponce | they'll be your best bet |
| 19:56.38 | Zelut | Traveler97: I'm sure we'd like to help but I know nothing about Freespire and have no idea what they may have changed since the original "based on Ubuntu" |
| 19:56.46 | Zelut | Traveler97: if you'd like to try Ubuntu we're all ears :) |
| 19:57.08 | atoponce | they used to be based on debian, until kevin carmoney saw the light |
| 19:57.17 | Traveler97 | I am wondering that if I could download the CNR client and burn it to a cd and then run this on the ubuntu program |
| 19:57.36 | atoponce | but they're *far* from a traditional linux, and have forked *way* too much of the base to be even 1/2 way relevant |
| 19:58.39 | Traveler97 | I have a different HDD I will be installing on this pc and it has never had an OS on it before |
| 19:59.11 | atoponce | Traveler97: did you join #freespire on freenode, or oftc? |
| 19:59.29 | atoponce | irc.oftc.net/#freespire is the official support channel for that linux |
| 19:59.42 | Traveler97 | I did have ubuntu installed for about a week and worked hard to get my wifi running without any luck |
| 20:01.31 | atoponce | you probably won't find good support for freespire on freenode |
| 20:02.11 | Traveler97 | then what am I to do without having to go back to windows |
| 20:02.16 | Zelut | Traveler97: if you're willing to switch back to Ubuntu I'd be more than happy to help you with your wifi.. I just know nothing about Freespire & can't really offer any advice there. |
| 20:02.52 | Traveler97 | this is why I joined in on this group |
| 20:03.14 | Traveler97 | I love the idea of ubuntu |
| 20:03.23 | Zelut | I've managed to get wifi working on 99% of the cards I've battled. There are a rare few that I've found impossible. |
| 20:03.41 | Traveler97 | I have belkin |
| 20:04.49 | Zelut | can you run 'lspci' and paste the output to http://pastebin.com |
| 20:06.22 | Traveler97 | I am not familiar with what you are asking for. |
| 20:07.24 | Traveler97 | I took ubuntu off this pc until I got the different HDD which came in yesterday |
| 20:09.13 | Traveler97 | I am going from a Samsung 40 GB hdd to a WD 250 GB hdd |
| 20:15.39 | Traveler97 | Zelut I can be e-mailed with the instructions for setting up the wifi. I have access to my wife's pc which is in the same room with this pc |
| 20:17.19 | Traveler97 | my usual log in name is bigcats374 |
| 20:36.34 | Traveler97 | thanks for the help, I am still confused but will survive |
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| 20:56.33 | Heartsbane | Sup omar |
| 20:56.38 | Heartsbane | Zelut: ping |
| 20:56.51 | bigfox | Not much. Just waking up. |
| 21:03.33 | bigfox | As I got off the freeway yesterday on the way to the meeting, my cars blinker and horn controls in the steering coulomb started malfunctioning. I had to disconnect the horn after the meeting before I could drive it home. |
| 21:04.08 | bigfox | So now I get to pull the steering wheel to fix it. |
| 21:04.13 | Heartsbane | WOW |
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| 21:52.22 | undertakingyou | ~w00t! |
| 21:52.23 | jbot | There it is! |
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| 22:27.28 | troseph | what's a good system monitor for KDE? |
| 22:28.36 | Heartsbane | I used something called superkaramba, I think that is what it was called |
| 22:28.40 | Heartsbane | I liked it |
| 22:29.28 | Heartsbane | oh course our resident KDE authority is Yorokobi |
| 22:29.46 | troseph | Good to know |
| 22:30.00 | troseph | I switched to K and I'm really happy with it. |
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| 23:22.13 | herlo | ~lart atoponce |
| 23:22.13 | jbot | nukes atoponce with a single large nuke |
| 23:22.34 | herlo | ~lart Zelut |
| 23:22.34 | jbot | takes out Zelut with the trash |