irclog2html for tuxscreen on 2002.07.08

01:10:44filehi all
02:04:30Russan instant replay, eh?
03:03:41Russdogma is on too
03:47:20][N-Fluxis away: Sleeplessness...
05:42:37DrewBradfordDoes anyone here use Xinerama?
11:44:21Maracatusomebody know a answering machine for linux?
14:28:38prpplaguemorning all
14:30:24prpplagueRuss: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4308570024.html
14:47:07pattiejaprpplague: sounds interesting, what is it?
14:47:16pattiejaprpplague: what is soft/hard IP?
14:47:37CosmicPenguinprpplague: morning
14:48:36CosmicPenguinprpplague: interesting - hows your VDML?  :)
15:16:24fileanybody alive?
15:23:49Tangentfile: Yep
15:24:19filegood
15:25:09filecontinues to look for set top boxes to blow up
15:32:26prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i've not done any VDML yet, but Russ and as_ have got me interested
15:33:24CosmicPenguinprpplague: going to the dark side of hardware, then?
15:33:37CosmicPenguinmourns
15:33:38prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol, why call it the dark side?
15:34:15CosmicPenguinprpplague: just age old hardware vs. software battles.... :)
15:34:22prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ahh
15:34:40CosmicPenguinWe can't do our job without the others, but that doesn't mean we can complain loudly about them
15:34:45filewaves to prpplague
15:35:36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: well, i'm kinda in the middle, i have to understand enough of both to get things done around here
15:36:45CosmicPenguinprpplague: so, hows the release coming?  Has the world been conquered yet?
15:36:54CosmicPenguingets out his checkbook, ready to buy a thin client
15:37:35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol, its not the TC thats the issue, its the server side software thats the problem
15:38:29prpplagueCosmicPenguin: managment is pushing the server side software out before some of the utilties are done, and other before they have been tested
15:41:09fileprpplague : isn't that what they always do?
15:42:50prpplaguefile: ya, if i don't keep me mouth shut until everthing is ready, unfortunately, i have to give them daily updates on this project
15:43:13fileprpplague : yuck
15:54:46TangentDamn it... you send off a CV for Firewall/Router/Unix job, and they ask you "Do you have any windowXP experience"... reply... "only bad ones"
15:55:07filehaha
15:58:34filehrms
15:58:43fileI'm receiving BOFH excuses on my Cybiko Xtreme
15:58:50Tangentoscillates
15:59:14TangentWhy is gtk so ugly
15:59:42prpplagueTangent: lol, i'll have to remember that come-back
16:01:04filemakes a sculpture out of AOL cds
16:01:49TangentI was thinking about using AOL cds instead of roof tiles... Shiny shiny house :)
16:02:20TangentMy cat is staring at this window.. watching the keystrokes go in... :)
16:02:27TangentShe likes scrolling text
16:02:50CosmicPenguinTangent: my cats are fascinated by the printer - every time I print something, they come running to attack the paper coming out
16:03:13filegoes back to wrestling with sprintf()
16:03:16fileDOWN BOY! DOWN!
16:03:45TangentCosmicPenguin: Cool... my cat's scared of the printer, but likes kernel compiles...
16:06:17CosmicPenguinTangent: don't we all?
16:06:54prpplaguei have my watch for the "piggy"
16:07:02prpplagueargh, too much coffee
16:07:06prpplaguei have my son watch for the "piggy"
16:10:05filekernel compiling... agony
16:11:38prpplaguefile: lol, not if you have a 2.53
16:13:00filewonders if he can store GCC and kernel sources on droid, and compile them on azmarith
16:14:13filesprintf( linkto, "%s%s%s", "form:", form_name, ":submit" );
16:14:17filewhat is wrong with that?
16:14:48CosmicPenguinnothing - as long as form_name is null terminated
16:15:02fileit is!
16:15:12filebut then linkto becomes null
16:15:20filegroans
16:15:24CosmicPenguinBut whats wrong with sprintf(linkto, "form:%s:submit", form_name)?
16:15:36filemy compiler don't like that
16:15:40CosmicPenguin??
16:16:30filegives it a whirl anyway
16:17:21filedidn't work
16:19:02filemaybe I can give it's item structure some information...
16:19:07filejust maybe
16:20:53filethen I'd need to expand my text widget, some more
16:20:54filegroans
16:21:21CosmicPenguinfile: what did it complain about?
16:21:26CosmicPenguinthe compiler, I mean
16:22:00fileit didn't
16:22:04filebut the value was null
16:25:18filesighs
16:25:27fileI think I'll redo my memory allocation while I think about this
16:28:27fileprpplague : can you give me the tracking number for the TCSX-1 whenever you send it out?
16:28:34prpplaguefile: yes
16:28:41fileprpplague : thnx
16:29:20file*sigh* I should redo my event loop too
17:08:23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: did you say you were going to LinuxWorld SF or was that andersee?
17:20:35CosmicPenguinprpplague: I think we might carpool
17:20:36CosmicPenguin:)
17:22:04][N-Fluxis away: back to werk...
18:06:39Tangentit's a shame that a carpool isn't a luxury item...
18:07:36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hmm, i can't decide if i want to go
18:07:56filemmm?
18:08:01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: seems there might be a bunch of history making events going on at linuxworld
18:15:33CosmicPenguinprpplague: other than the M$ issue?
18:16:02CosmicPenguinis going to make one more attempt to convince his boss to let him go
18:24:03prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'm not sure what all is going to happen, but several of the vendors we get hardware from have, shall we say "highly encourage us to attend"
18:24:23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: it might be just hipe or my imagination
18:25:58CosmicPenguinprpplague: well, book the flights now - I have a feeling it will be a good time
18:26:40prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya last year was good, its just i wanted to stick with technical conferences this year
18:26:54prpplagueCosmicPenguin: got any idea where you'll be staying?
18:27:09CosmicPenguinprpplague: hmmm....  I guess I would need to figure that out, huh?
18:30:43prpplagueCosmicPenguin: naw, we can sleep on the streets like the homeless do in SF
18:30:48filethat was a nice shower
18:36:54CosmicPenguinprpplague: travelocity returns lots of hotel hits
18:37:54prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya the one i stayed at last year was pretty cheap and was withing walking distance of the convention centory
18:37:59prpplaguecenter
18:39:23CosmicPenguinprpplague: check this one out:  http://dps1.travelocity.com/hotsdetail.ctl?ht_ch_cd=JV&prop_cd=21679&hrn_id=NC%20POWWE&show_vr_info=1&city_cd=SFO&list_page=2&available=Y&disp_start=22&hot_location=111%20MASON%20STREET,%20San%20Francisco,%20CA%20%2094102&geo_cd=-122.4094,37.7845&xrate_code=&type_for_ckb=HRN&ht_ch_cd=JV&city_cd=SFO&prop_cd=21679&rate_for_ckb=99.95&cur_cd=USD&disp_start=22&pgdName=hotslist&SEQ=102615364211873607082002&LANG=EN&la
18:39:23CosmicPenguinst_pgd_page=hotslist.pgd
18:39:33CosmicPenguinUgh - that was alot uglier than I thought it would be
18:39:41CosmicPenguinapologizes greatly to the crowd
18:40:49sjhillCosmicPenguin: i forgive you :)
18:49:21prpplagueCosmicPenguin: http://www.bestwestern.com/prop_05501
18:49:32prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thats where i stayed last year
18:49:47CosmicPenguinis getting pretty excited
18:50:41CosmicPenguinprpplague: apparently,bestwestern.com is not talking right now
18:50:48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: doh
18:51:01CosmicPenguinnow its back
18:52:27CosmicPenguinprpplague: cool
18:53:23CosmicPenguinroom with breakfast = 109... room w/o breakfast = 89......  that had better be a good breakfast... :)
18:53:31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol
18:53:38prpplagueCosmicPenguin: everything is expensive there
18:54:08filewants his networking gear and new CD-Rom drive
18:56:04prpplagueCosmicPenguin: where did you find that price?
18:58:08filemmm
18:58:34CosmicPenguinprpplague: do the get rates / reservation link, enter your info  and go
18:58:56prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thats odd, i'm getting rates of $159
18:59:04prpplagueCosmicPenguin: what info are you putting in?
18:59:05CosmicPenguinprpplague: its a bit ugly because either they have broken HTML or IE specific crap
18:59:33prpplagueohh
18:59:36prpplaguethats probably it
18:59:39CosmicPenguinprpplague: aug 12 - 15, 2 people (my fiance might come)
19:00:26CosmicPenguinprpplague: hold on - didn't read the fine print - thats the AARP rate
19:01:13CosmicPenguinprpplague: hold on again - its the standard rate I guess
19:01:23CosmicPenguinobviously can't read the damn screen
19:02:49prpplagueCosmicPenguin:lol, i think we can get that rate as a biz deal
19:03:54prpplagueprpplague_lunch
20:43:14CosmicPenguinprpplague: still at lunch?
20:43:42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: naw
20:44:04prpplagueCosmicPenguin: just having a heart attack from the heavy tex-mex i had at lunch
20:44:46CosmicPenguinmmmmm...... tex-mex
20:47:26prpplagueCosmicPenguin: besides, we don't need to worry about hotels, we just need to know where the nudie bars are.....
20:48:04CosmicPenguinprpplague: lol - and the bars... :)
20:51:49CosmicPenguinis trying to figure out how to get paid to go to Defcon and then to LinuxWorld
20:52:59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: white papaer - "A Study of Real Time Interactive GUIs" (aka DefCon)
20:55:21prpplagueCosmicPenguin: white paper - "The haggis is in the Fire Now: M$ Motives at LinuxWorld"
20:59:37CosmicPenguinlol
22:15:53filehi all
22:20:23bhima50 left? ack! :)
22:21:51bhimawonders if there's anybody awake who knows about ATA busses...
22:23:00prpplaguebhima: you'd probably have to talk to TomW about that
22:23:38bhimaok. I just had a random idea. not really tuxscreen related. but somebody who can write direct digital IO ATA support could probably tell me how much crack I'm on.
22:24:05bhimaI'm wondering if it would be possible to use a high speed ATA interface on a computer to do generic digital IO.
22:24:22bhimawith an interface and a 512 byte two block buffer or similar.
22:24:31bhimapossibly more blocks in case the computer is unhappy.
22:29:10bhimaany idea how fast you can read foo in from the digital IO lines on the tuxscreen?
22:34:17CosmicPenguinyou mean the gpio lines?
22:34:31bhimayeah.
22:42:44prpplaguebhima: well, TomW has a 8 bit ide interface created for the tuxscreen
22:43:07bhimaany idea how fast it is?
22:43:37prpplaguebhima: i'd check his web page, i think he posted some data rates
22:44:12bhimaahh, ok, thanks, will check.
22:44:13bhima.
22:45:38prpplaguebhima: you got the url?
22:46:03bhimawas gonna search for it. if youv['e got the URL that would help, yeah.
22:49:06bhima1.68MB/sec.
22:55:19prpplaguebhima: you find it?
22:55:42bhimayup. thanks. readign through stuff now. didn't realize it needed custom programmable logic chips.
22:55:43prpplaguebhima: sorry, i'm a little swamped today
22:56:05bhima('course, I'm sure I have access to programmers. just didn't realize there was that much to it0

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