| 00:12:14 | scanline | is away: standing in the really really wet outdoor room |
| 00:32:41 | scanline | is back (gone 00:20:28) |
| 00:53:10 | BZFlag | the buildroot-tux builds a complete linux distro for the phones. |
| 00:53:52 | BZFlag | the phone connection can be used for internet access under Inferno which the phones come with, but Linux does not support the internal software modem. |
| 00:54:13 | BZFlag | so you need a pcmcia network card for net access under Linux. |
| 00:54:43 | BZFlag | Inferno (as shipped) does not support the pcmcia slots at all. But Linux does after converting a phone over. |
| 00:54:49 | BZFlag | clear as mud? |
| 00:55:05 | Tangent | andersee: You around? |
| 00:55:19 | dinah | im not really a technical girl, dumb it down a bit for us birts would you? |
| 00:55:56 | BZFlag | as shipped: inferno software with phone and modem access. caller id, email, web etc all in a nice GUI. |
| 00:56:17 | BZFlag | you can convert to Linux by following InstallingLinux on the web site. |
| 00:56:30 | BZFlag | then there is no complete gui solution that fits internal. |
| 00:56:54 | dinah | oh well i really need a gui |
| 00:56:56 | scanline | slowly works on that problem... :) |
| 00:57:01 | BZFlag | the pcmcia slots work and you can easily add stuff to the phone, but it's a geek world, not an end user one. |
| 00:57:54 | BZFlag | neither one does VoIP, but by adding some extra hardware, you can get VoIP under Linux. |
| 01:00:07 | dinah | hmmm what must i do to see and talk all at once? |
| 01:00:48 | file | grabs a Tuxscreen from BZFlag and runs |
| 01:00:55 | scanline | trips file |
| 01:01:04 | dinah | what must i buy/dowload? |
| 01:01:05 | file | flys through the air to his house |
| 01:01:15 | scanline | notices that he and scanline seem to be the two stooges of #tuxscreen... |
| 01:02:21 | BZFlag | dinah: no camera on the tux. get different hardware. |
| 01:02:32 | dinah | sigh |
| 01:02:46 | file | sighs |
| 01:03:09 | BZFlag | whacks file and scanline up side the head |
| 01:03:16 | scanline | I think #picogui attracts weird people... |
| 01:03:19 | dinah | hopes that someday that wonderfull tim fellow will add a camera |
| 01:03:40 | scanline | dinah: Theoretically you could find a PCMCIA USB host adaptor and hook a USB webcam up to that |
| 01:03:46 | BZFlag | dinah: not gonna happen. this hardware is dead. no more are being made. |
| 01:03:55 | BZFlag | scanline: uh, no. |
| 01:03:57 | dinah | is very sad |
| 01:04:03 | scanline | BZFlag: why not? |
| 01:04:08 | file | dinah: only 50 left! |
| 01:04:31 | file | BZFlag: what are you going after, after the Tuxscreen? |
| 01:04:35 | BZFlag | scanline: pcmcia usb is are normally cardbus and everyone I've seen is 32 bit. pcmcia slots on the tux are 16 bit ONLY. |
| 01:04:41 | scanline | ahh |
| 01:05:16 | BZFlag | now a pcmcia scsi card would work if you can find a scsi camera. |
| 01:05:29 | scanline | you could get a really fast scsi camera, and some lenses |
| 01:05:33 | scanline | err, scsi scanner |
| 01:05:38 | dinah | how much is $99 in pounds? |
| 01:05:40 | BZFlag | heh. |
| 01:06:03 | mallum | dinah: ~ 70 quid ish |
| 01:06:05 | | BZFlag: i'm not following you... |
| 01:06:05 | BZFlag | ibot convert 99 usd to uk |
| 01:06:20 | | BZFlag: huh? |
| 01:06:20 | BZFlag | ibot convert 99.0 usd to gbp |
| 01:06:20 | dinah | hmmm not to bad |
| 01:06:30 | BZFlag | hmm. |
| 01:06:31 | file | fixes the WebHome on the Tuxscreen Wiki |
| 01:06:33 | scanline | ibot: change 99.0 usd to gbp |
| 01:06:36 | | scanline: 990.00 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 650.460 (Pound (GBP)) |
| 01:06:42 | BZFlag | ah, yeah change |
| 01:06:57 | mallum | ahh 5 pounds out |
| 01:07:06 | BZFlag | well, it messed up, but 65.05 |
| 01:08:29 | file | BZFlag: I fixed the main page to set 50 available instead of 200 |
| 01:08:44 | BZFlag | file: main page? |
| 01:08:56 | file | WebHome on the wiki |
| 01:10:08 | BZFlag | ah, I removed it and pointed to TimRiker |
| 01:10:28 | file | :p |
| 01:10:29 | BZFlag | my back is tired from orders today. |
| 01:10:41 | scanline | BZFlag: are they going fast? |
| 01:11:11 | file | BZFlag: what are you going to do next??? |
| 01:11:12 | BZFlag | 35 shipped today. mostly international orders from the past week. |
| 01:11:20 | BZFlag | file: sleep? |
| 01:11:37 | file | BZFlag: no no no... after Tuxscreen |
| 01:11:48 | BZFlag | as I said. sleep. ;-) |
| 01:12:02 | file | you don't know eh? |
| 01:12:17 | BZFlag | It's been many long nights handling orders. I need a rest. |
| 01:12:38 | file | please... answer... |
| 01:12:42 | BZFlag | I might pick up the remaining NetWinders if I can talk them into a good enough price. |
| 01:12:53 | BZFlag | I'm doubtful though. |
| 01:13:01 | file | :( |
| 01:13:04 | scanline | "BZFlag, Dealer in ARMs" |
| 01:13:09 | BZFlag | heh. |
| 01:13:10 | file | what about that other thing? |
| 01:13:19 | file | I forget it... |
| 01:13:20 | BZFlag | "that other thing" ? |
| 01:13:36 | file | you were trying to get |
| 01:14:13 | file | iPhone 2050 |
| 01:16:26 | BZFlag | I looked at the audrey, but it's poor hardware. |
| 01:16:36 | iLLf8d | hmm lotsa ppls here |
| 01:16:40 | BZFlag | iphone is not powerful enough. 2M/4M |
| 01:16:52 | file | well it's better than nothing... |
| 01:17:15 | BZFlag | never run a decent linux distro and that's all I'm interested in hacking. |
| 01:17:18 | iLLf8d | these things a bitch to setup or what? |
| 01:17:25 | BZFlag | I'd love to get an oqo though. ;-) |
| 01:17:32 | file | oqo? what's that? |
| 01:18:33 | BZFlag | http://www.oqo.com/ <- x86 meta pad. ~$1500 ? 10G, 256M, etc. in a pda like form factor with a docking station. |
| 01:18:39 | file | ack |
| 01:18:43 | file | too rich for my blood |
| 01:18:47 | file | wants something inexpensive |
| 01:20:08 | scanline | file: take the LCD off of an old laptop, and write OQO on the side with a magic marker |
| 01:20:20 | file | scanline: good idea |
| 01:20:26 | file | scanline: think I can use turtle's LCD on azmarith? |
| 01:20:32 | scanline | maybe |
| 01:20:44 | file | doubts it |
| 01:20:50 | scanline | only non-split LCD panels work, and you'd have to build an interface |
| 01:20:54 | scanline | anyway, I should take a shower |
| 01:20:58 | scanline | is away: standing in the wet room |
| 01:21:09 | file | BZFlag: even I-Openers would be nice... |
| 01:21:23 | BZFlag | are there any more around? I've got one. |
| 01:21:33 | file | on EBay... but that's it |
| 01:22:19 | file | it interests me alot |
| 01:22:24 | file | as does the Websurfer Pro units |
| 01:23:04 | BZFlag | yeah, they look interesting too. |
| 01:23:32 | BZFlag | I'm planning to check in on the xbox linux work. ;-) |
| 01:23:36 | file | uck |
| 01:23:59 | BZFlag | s'lot a hw for $300 |
| 01:24:30 | ][N-Flux | and just buying the box hurt's M$ |
| 01:24:37 | ][N-Flux | they need the software to sell |
| 01:25:06 | file | what else is there to hack... |
| 01:25:28 | ][N-Flux | dc |
| 01:25:34 | file | we need suggestions so BZFlag can sell 'em! |
| 01:26:58 | file | BZFlag: I'm out of ideas, go to bed |
| 01:27:03 | Tangent | Set-top boxes are often good for hacking |
| 01:27:13 | ][N-Flux | does the tuxscreen just run X or can it run something light like windowmaker or blackbox? |
| 01:27:13 | file | yup |
| 01:27:18 | Tangent | I've got an ARM based one and an SH3 based one under the desk |
| 01:27:21 | file | I'd like a set-top box |
| 01:27:31 | file | Tangent: ooh, specs? |
| 01:27:32 | Tangent | and another one that I really can't work out |
| 01:27:40 | Tangent | file: Sure.. let me find URLs |
| 01:28:19 | Tangent | http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/NetStation/C0_Img.jpg |
| 01:28:47 | file | how much are they? |
| 01:29:12 | file | droolz |
| 01:29:17 | dinah | well bye lads |
| 01:29:29 | Tangent | file: No idea where you could get one of 'em |
| 01:29:35 | Tangent | file: No one sells those anymore |
| 01:29:54 | file | what is it? |
| 01:30:36 | file | is quite interested in set-top boxes |
| 01:31:00 | BZFlag | ][N-Flux: X, pigo, mw are all supported. |
| 01:31:06 | BZFlag | er pico. ;-) |
| 01:31:06 | Tangent | file: It's almost identical to these ... http://www.kyllikki.fluff.org/hardware/bushstb/ |
| 01:31:26 | file | is that a PCMCIA slot? |
| 01:31:28 | BZFlag | ][N-Flux: with X in buildroot, matchbox and rxvt are included. |
| 01:31:39 | Tangent | file: It certainly is :) |
| 01:31:51 | file | oooh |
| 01:32:06 | Tangent | file: And that's also an SMC multiI/O chip... 2xserial, 1xparallel, IDE + Floppy |
| 01:32:21 | Tangent | file: As far as I can tell, thery're using 1xserial and 1xparallel from that chip |
| 01:32:31 | file | droolz |
| 01:33:15 | file | what other set-top boxes do you have? |
| 01:34:11 | BZFlag | I have a few dlc5000 units. but not enough to resell and start a community project. |
| 01:34:29 | file | BZFlag: what are those? |
| 01:35:51 | ][N-Flux | I've never seen matchbox |
| 01:36:27 | BZFlag | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2573029642.html <- oops. I meant dct5000 |
| 01:36:42 | file | that's why I couldn't find it on Google |
| 01:37:00 | file | Dreamy |
| 01:37:08 | Tangent | file : I also have the Pace DiTV1000 which is SH3 based, and has a flash simm :)... see http://www.dtg.org.uk/consumer/receivers/pace.htm |
| 01:37:09 | file | I... I... I... |
| 01:37:46 | | matchbox is, like, a X11 window manager for handheld devices. Info, screenshots & downloadable at http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox . Ipkg is in the familiar unstable feed. Development versions and other goodies at http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/ |
| 01:37:46 | Tangent | ibot matchbox |
| 01:38:04 | file | Tangent: I just want a set-top box that will run Linux |
| 01:39:34 | Tangent | file: Well those bush set-top boxes will definately run linux |
| 01:39:41 | Tangent | but where's the fun in that |
| 01:40:07 | file | but where can I find one... |
| 01:40:28 | Tangent | file: What country? |
| 01:40:36 | file | Canada |
| 01:40:52 | Tangent | file: No idea in that case I'm afraid... |
| 01:40:59 | file | US? |
| 01:41:06 | Tangent | file: I might be able to find some over here if I'm lucky.. I need to phone a friend.. |
| 01:41:21 | Tangent | file: I see they're selling them in Makro.. and I know someone with an account there |
| 01:41:36 | file | Tangent: check the cost... |
| 01:42:08 | Tangent | file: It said on the website that they were £15 which is nothing |
| 01:42:20 | file | still check... |
| 01:42:39 | file | where is this anyway? |
| 01:43:20 | Tangent | UK |
| 01:43:28 | file | oh my... |
| 01:43:37 | file | wonders how he'd get it here |
| 01:44:00 | Tangent | Let me see if I can find any first |
| 01:44:10 | file | yeah |
| 01:47:05 | file | have any other boxes? |
| 01:47:53 | Tangent | I have a phillips box too, but I couldn't work out any of the insides of that one... |
| 01:48:00 | file | ic |
| 01:48:01 | Tangent | it seemed to be all chipset and no cpu |
| 01:48:11 | file | when will you know if they have any? |
| 01:50:13 | Tangent | I'll phone my mate tommorow.. and hopefully he'll go and look in the next week... |
| 01:50:20 | scanline | is back (gone 00:29:22) |
| 01:50:57 | file | aye |
| 01:51:12 | file | wonders what other set top boxes he can get... |
| 01:54:04 | file | I give up |
| 01:54:26 | Tangent | What do the cable TV companies give you in canada? |
| 01:54:48 | file | regular cable nothing |
| 01:54:56 | file | digital cable a set top box worth a few hundred dollars |
| 01:55:23 | file | I don't have digital cable :) |
| 01:55:28 | file | I have regular cable and satellite |
| 01:57:25 | file | a websurfer pro is mighty tempting |
| 02:02:54 | file | pokes people |
| 02:03:03 | scanline | is poked |
| 02:03:18 | file | installs a PS/2 port in scanline's head |
| 02:03:45 | scanline | plugs an IBM Model M into it |
| 02:04:08 | file | accidentally wired it wrong |
| 02:06:04 | file | sjhill! |
| 02:06:50 | sjhill | lo' file |
| 02:10:59 | andersee | evening sjhill |
| 02:11:20 | sjhill | andersee: howdy |
| 02:11:38 | Tangent | andersee: Evening |
| 02:11:54 | sjhill | hey BZFlag |
| 02:12:29 | andersee | sjhill: btw, I gave phoenix.codepoet.org a public IP... Not masq'd anymore. |
| 02:12:39 | andersee | sjhill: now running 2.4.19-rc1 |
| 02:12:42 | sjhill | andersee: very cool |
| 02:13:38 | scanline | hi prpplague |
| 02:13:46 | prpplague | scanline: howdy |
| 02:13:51 | andersee | sjhill: Feel free to use it if you ever feel like doing some native testing/debugging. Works nicely. |
| 02:13:54 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 02:14:00 | file | wow, hi prpplague |
| 02:14:06 | sjhill | andersee: i'll definitely do so |
| 02:14:31 | prpplague | sjhill: howdy |
| 02:14:50 | prpplague | file: howdy |
| 02:17:26 | andersee | sjhill: Oh. And I stuck in a 30 GB drive. Use all you want. ;-) |
| 02:18:28 | andersee | sjhill: So far, I ususally fire up screen, start a huge compile, disconnect and then come back later when its done. |
| 02:21:23 | file | trys his best to get something... |
| 02:22:23 | prpplague | anything excitin happening tonight? |
| 02:23:06 | scanline | file's searching for free/cheap hardware, and I'm hacking on picogui... all the while bugging the people here :) |
| 02:23:28 | file | yup |
| 02:23:58 | prpplague | trying to finish some end luser utilities for his company's software |
| 02:24:35 | prpplague | its a hard job trying to think as stupid as our customers |
| 02:25:02 | sjhill | prpplague: i know, it seems dumber idiots are invented faster that we can fix the sw |
| 02:30:17 | prpplague | sjhill: yep |
| 02:30:34 | prpplague | sjhill: our company has a bad habit of hiring less than qualified field techs |
| 02:30:48 | prpplague | sjhill: so everthing we write has to be moron proof |
| 02:30:54 | sjhill | wonderful |
| 02:31:44 | file | twitches |
| 02:32:44 | scanline | adds support for 7 text encodings... |
| 02:33:05 | prpplague | press 1 for expert mode |
| 02:33:11 | prpplague | press 2 for normal mode |
| 02:33:19 | prpplague | press 3 if your an absolute moron |
| 02:33:26 | scanline | prpplague: reminds me of Exadigm... |
| 02:33:32 | file | most people press 3? |
| 02:34:15 | scanline | file: at exadigm, the programmers would press 3... |
| 02:34:24 | file | haha |
| 02:34:26 | scanline | is glad to be programming elsewhere now |
| 02:37:29 | prpplague | anyone install hylafax on sco open server? |
| 02:38:19 | prpplague | when you run the ./configure it says "ahh your running SCO Openserver, aren't you fsckin lucky..." |
| 02:38:28 | scanline | haha |
| 02:38:35 | sjhill | that's awesome |
| 02:40:49 | file | sweet |
| 02:41:03 | file | but alas I must sleep |
| 02:41:22 | prpplague | file: later |
| 02:42:45 | file | prpplague : btw - the TCSX-1 is definately getting airbrushed |
| 02:42:46 | prpplague | anyone used an array of strongarm boards together? |
| 02:42:52 | prpplague | file: lol |
| 02:43:03 | prpplague | file: just no cow spots |
| 02:43:10 | file | prpplague : fine, maybe a Tux though |
| 02:43:20 | file | definately a tux |
| 02:43:29 | file | prpplague : will it co-operate being networked to my NT box? |
| 02:43:56 | prpplague | file: if linux will do it, so will the tcsx |
| 02:44:15 | file | prpplague : I think it does it then... |
| 02:44:28 | file | will have to modify the TCSX-1's onboard Linux |
| 02:44:58 | file | bbl |
| 02:47:45 | prpplague | if anyone is alive, i've got this strange idea of using multiple strongarm processors in mesh configuration, has anyone heard of that being done? |
| 02:55:53 | andersee | Hmm. You might want to run that idea by rmk... |
| 03:04:35 | prpplague | andersee: whys that? |
| 03:04:54 | prpplague | andersee: that something he's working on? |
| 03:09:15 | sjhill | p |
| 03:10:14 | prpplague | did i miss something? or did i stick my foot in my mouth? |
| 03:10:43 | scanline | This channel has high latency |
| 03:10:44 | sjhill | prpplague: you didn't say anything wrong that i can see |
| 03:11:28 | prpplague | sjhill: ok just checking |
| 03:12:53 | scanline | decides he should be "productive" instead of reading dilbert and reloading slashdot... |
| 03:14:42 | ][N-Flux | yeah get to work ;) |
| 03:15:09 | scanline | goes back to hacking some better unicode support into picogui |
| 03:15:09 | prpplague | hmm, i was just thinking it would be nice for some mobile applications, like maybe a car, or robotics, or data collection to have multiple processors that are share information |
| 03:16:02 | prpplague | scanline: hey, i want a widget that is a naked lady silouete like you see of trucks...... |
| 03:16:24 | prpplague | scanline: i expect to see it on cvs in the morning.... |
| 03:16:37 | scanline | We could use some more easter eggs :) |
| 03:16:59 | prpplague | anyone used i2c? |
| 03:17:09 | scanline | used it for an EEPROM once... |
| 03:17:21 | prpplague | doh, i guess we crossed the good taste line and ran sjhill off |
| 03:17:56 | scanline | His ISP must have detected content unsuitable for IRC and disconnected him.. or something |
| 03:18:17 | prpplague | scanline: hmm, i'm not real familiar with it, does it have host/slave modes or is it closer to dte/dce of rs-232? |
| 03:18:41 | scanline | IIRC, there's one master and up to 512 (or maybe 256? I forget) slave devices |
| 03:21:52 | prpplague | scanline: hmm, so could i have 1 strongarm run as master and the rest as slaves? |
| 03:22:21 | prpplague | pulls up the linux/documents/i2c.txt file |
| 03:22:35 | scanline | I dunno, most CPUs only have master ports |
| 03:22:44 | andersee | prpplague: just that rmk is the ARM/Linux god, and if anyone knows of any gotchas it'll be rmk. |
| 03:22:48 | scanline | but you can bit-bang an I2C on most any platform |
| 03:22:54 | scanline | I doubt you want I2C for this, it's slow |
| 03:23:01 | prpplague | andersee: that he is |
| 03:23:31 | prpplague | andersee: i spent a little with him at OLS, and all i have to say is he is one smart cookie |
| 03:24:02 | prpplague | scanline: ya i just kinda tossing ideas out |
| 03:28:24 | prpplague | andersee: david woodhouse spoke highly of BB and uclibc at his session at OLS |
| 03:33:23 | andersee | prpplague: really? Cool! :-) |
| 03:33:32 | andersee | which presentation? |
| 03:33:41 | andersee | On mtd? |
| 03:34:07 | prpplague | andersee: its was session on embedded linux techniques |
| 03:35:37 | andersee | Ahh. Very nice. :) |
| 03:35:56 | prpplague | andersee: you can get a copy of the white papers at the OLS web site |
| 03:36:29 | andersee | looks |
| 03:39:08 | scanline | decides to install linux on his iBook now... |
| 03:39:59 | prpplague | that reminds me, i need to get page up for my new toshiba, seems there is no entry on linux-laptop.org |
| 03:40:19 | ][N-Flux | wants a libretto SO bad :) |
| 03:40:58 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: one of the older models or a new one? |
| 03:41:04 | scanline | I'm a diehard iBook fan. I'm not usually a mac groupie or anything (I can't stand OS 9 and OS X is mediocre) but I love the apple hardware.. battery life on a PPC laptop is amazing |
| 03:41:31 | ][N-Flux | prpplague: Used to have the ct50 I'd love an L2 or something similar |
| 03:42:01 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: did you read that post about "why japan gets all the cool gadgets?" ? |
| 03:42:11 | ][N-Flux | yeah |
| 03:42:21 | ][N-Flux | but I've wanted one way before that :) |
| 03:42:25 | ][N-Flux | or a Casio Fiva |
| 03:42:33 | ][N-Flux | I'm all about the little laptop |
| 03:42:37 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: figures, great geeks think alike... |
| 03:42:53 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: me too thats why i'm into arm |
| 03:42:59 | ][N-Flux | but, little laptop=big money |
| 03:43:08 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: yep |
| 03:43:11 | ][N-Flux | needs to sell old crap to get new crap :) |
| 03:43:25 | scanline | downloads a Gentoo install CD |
| 03:43:33 | ][N-Flux | sell my Zaurs dev version to get retail, and sell my old compaq armada |
| 03:44:50 | ][N-Flux | if I sell both and my shuttle, I may be able to get the libretto |
| 03:44:55 | ][N-Flux | ponders |
| 03:46:06 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: i suggest just infecting a local winblows biz and then charge to clean it up |
| 03:46:13 | ][N-Flux | Anyone wanna buy a shuttle sv-24 :) |
| 03:46:20 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: selling your blood plasma is always profitable |
| 03:46:24 | ][N-Flux | prpplague: That's what I do for work ;) |
| 03:46:41 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: infect ppl with klez? |
| 03:46:55 | ][N-Flux | prpplague: Well, no but clean up the messes |
| 03:51:30 | prpplague | lol |
| 03:53:51 | prpplague | night all, got a long day to spend with my son tomorrow |
| 03:54:16 | ][N-Flux | later |
| 05:22:02 | ][N-Flux | is away: Need sleep.... |
| 05:50:27 | scanline | is away: reading, and installing Gentoo |
| 05:54:45 | BZFlag | smp would not be fun with string arm. |
| 05:54:57 | BZFlag | there is no hw support for cache coherency. |
| 05:55:37 | BZFlag | it would have to be more of a numa arch with shared memory regions. perhaps with multiported ram, though that would need external chipset support. |
| 05:56:00 | BZFlag | but wouldn't a chip with an FPU be a better choice? |
| 05:56:39 | BZFlag | even x86 systems would be better, as long as you did not have to build all the pc hardware crap for each node. |
| 05:57:13 | BZFlag | stops thinking out loud. |
| 06:05:59 | andersee | hehe |
| 07:41:09 | fontenot | god i hate windows |
| 10:50:06 | Tangent | fontenot: Is it just windows that causes you strife? or do other OSes get it too... |
| 10:50:24 | Tangent | I hate windows because it's all propriety crap and I can't look at the source... |
| 10:50:39 | Tangent | I hate linux because I _have_ to look at the source to make things work |
| 10:50:52 | Tangent | I hate solaris because it's boring and dull... |
| 10:51:06 | Tangent | and I hate obsd becasue it lacks SMP support |
| 10:51:10 | Tangent | Any I left out? |
| 10:51:13 | Tangent | ;) |
| 10:51:53 | Tangent | AmigaDOS... No.. I really don't have a problem with that :) |
| 11:37:14 | fontenot | fucking XP STILL requires about 20 reboots to get a system installed |
| 11:37:18 | fontenot | WTF is up with that? |
| 11:38:06 | Tangent | fontenot: It's the same old shit with more flabby gui added... nobody ever pretended it was anything different |
| 11:38:20 | Tangent | It's not allowed in my house |
| 11:38:27 | fontenot | nobody? |
| 11:38:38 | fontenot | microsoft didn't? |
| 11:38:55 | fontenot | they claim it's much more stable |
| 11:39:33 | fontenot | Tangent: so which windows do you use then? |
| 11:41:55 | fontenot | crap now I'm having the 60Hz refrech propblem with xp |
| 11:57:44 | Tangent | fontenot: Windows2000 |
| 11:58:02 | fontenot | Tangent: so win2k is better than xp ? I wish i had known that before i bought xp |
| 11:58:23 | Tangent | fontenot: You still listen to Microsoft marketing hype??... My brain filters all that out for me.. |
| 11:58:37 | fontenot | no just everyone at work uses xp |
| 11:58:43 | fontenot | and they all say it's great |
| 11:58:54 | fontenot | i donw own 2k anyway |
| 11:58:58 | fontenot | i do own 98 |
| 11:59:19 | Tangent | fontenot: All I've seen of people using XP is them having to reboot all the time.. reinstall all the time... and their machines doing weird stuff like shutting down unexpectedly |
| 12:00:16 | fontenot | bah |
| 12:00:28 | fontenot | all this just to play games |
| 12:00:45 | Tangent | fontenot: For games you're still best off with 98/ME |
| 12:02:13 | fontenot | i was under the impression that 98 would not work well with the latet hardware |
| 12:02:17 | fontenot | latest |
| 12:03:07 | Tangent | fontenot: Probably true.. but I think ME should... |
| 12:03:32 | Tangent | fontenot: To be honest I've given up with microsoft when they introduced XP |
| 12:04:00 | Tangent | fontenot: I didn't like the 'w3 0wnz j00' approach they've taken with product activation adn all that |
| 12:04:34 | Tangent | fontenot: It just pushed me over the edge to totally stop using windows except for playing the one game every 6 months that looks intersteing |
| 12:07:35 | Tangent | even my GF is not so windows dependant anymore |
| 12:08:06 | fontenot | that's cool |
| 12:08:16 | fontenot | i have a year's worth of games ive never even installed |
| 12:08:23 | fontenot | because i didnt have a machine i could run them on |
| 12:08:29 | fontenot | i just built a new machine |
| 12:08:34 | Tangent | fontenot: What spec? |
| 12:10:28 | fontenot | Tangent: xp1800+/512MB |
| 12:18:38 | Tangent | fontenot: Very nice :) |
| 12:18:56 | Tangent | wants new toys too |
| 12:23:39 | fontenot | Tangent: I just started playing neverwinter nights |
| 12:23:47 | fontenot | likea few minutes ago |
| 12:30:22 | fontenot | i feel another addiction coming on |
| 12:34:19 | Tangent | Heh :) |
| 12:41:48 | scanline | fontenot: do you know when they're releasing the linux binaries? |
| 13:15:30 | file | alive in there russ? |
| 13:15:36 | scanline | pokes file |
| 13:15:50 | scanline | file: I've almost got Gentoo on my iBook |
| 13:15:58 | file | neat |
| 13:16:07 | file | scanline: I'm still looking for a laptop... |
| 13:16:15 | scanline | I've been frustrated with MacOS X.. linux should be much more useful |
| 13:16:23 | file | good |
| 13:16:35 | scanline | What, turtle isn't enough for you? :) |
| 13:16:47 | file | I need a real laptop that doesn't freeze after 15 minutes |
| 13:17:03 | scanline | I have a 486 laptop, but it's not in much better condition.. |
| 13:17:08 | file | sighs |
| 13:17:11 | scanline | broken LCD hinge, and requires a huge power supply |
| 13:17:21 | file | which one is that? the one with the printer? |
| 13:17:25 | scanline | yes |
| 13:17:36 | file | uck |
| 13:19:03 | file | know the model name/number? |
| 13:19:19 | scanline | It's marketed by Canon and manufactured by Acer, I dunno the model |
| 13:19:39 | file | wonders if he could separate the printer from the computer |
| 13:19:44 | scanline | no |
| 13:19:58 | file | well then, I'd have myself a printer lol |
| 13:19:59 | scanline | Well, I doubt it anyway.. |
| 13:20:03 | scanline | :P |
| 13:20:12 | file | hey - didn't you have parts for 486s? |
| 13:20:25 | scanline | I have some old motherboards |
| 13:20:37 | scanline | a couple 386s, a 486, maybe a 286 or three... |
| 13:20:39 | scanline | I forget |
| 13:20:55 | file | maybe I can build droid a companion |
| 13:20:59 | scanline | I started using the 286 boards for spare parts |
| 13:21:21 | scanline | Erasing the BIOS chips and using them as boot EPROMs for network cards, that sort of thing... |
| 13:21:59 | file | mmm |
| 13:22:18 | file | go see if you can round up a 486 motherboard and CPU |
| 13:22:24 | file | ack - I'd need a case |
| 13:22:26 | file | groans |
| 13:22:42 | scanline | I have a complete 486 system that I used to use as a router |
| 13:22:52 | file | but shipping would kill me |
| 13:22:56 | scanline | yeah |
| 13:23:01 | scanline | brb |
| 13:23:04 | file | k |
| 13:24:48 | scanline | well.. I should get some sleep |
| 13:25:05 | file | wait |
| 13:25:13 | scanline | I'll probably get a few hours of sleep, then we were going to drive around in the mountains.. that means some more sleep in the car on the way there |
| 13:25:18 | scanline | eh? |
| 13:25:21 | scanline | I want sleep now! |
| 13:25:23 | file | could I use my exisiting power supply, CPU, etc with another motherboard? |
| 13:25:38 | scanline | power supply, probably. (you just have to worry about AT vs ATX) |
| 13:25:42 | scanline | CPU, it depends |
| 13:25:53 | scanline | there are different sockets... |
| 13:25:54 | file | it's an AMD |
| 13:25:56 | file | 5... 133MHz |
| 13:26:14 | scanline | k |
| 13:26:23 | scanline | so you'd just need another Pentium motherboard with socket 5 or 7 |
| 13:26:28 | scanline | anyway.. |
| 13:26:31 | scanline | is away: ZzZz.... |
| 13:26:40 | file | bolts scanline to the floor |
| 13:26:43 | file | no sleep for you! |
| 13:26:57 | scanline | I'm going to shut down this computer at night until I get a new power supply for it, it gets too hot |
| 13:27:03 | file | bah |
| 18:36:30 | ntropy | well, hopefully my JTAG will come today |
| 22:27:44 | file | anybody alive? |
| 22:28:42 | Tangent | file: Have you seen the file Reanimator? |
| 22:28:51 | file | no |
| 22:28:58 | file | Tangent: I'm back on search for a set top box |
| 22:28:58 | Tangent | Ah.. never mind then... |
| 22:29:02 | Tangent | I'm not really alive |
| 22:29:30 | Tangent | gimme 45 mins |
| 22:29:40 | file | for? |
| 22:29:51 | Tangent | to finish watching this film |
| 22:30:15 | file | and you'll do what after that? |
| 22:30:27 | Tangent | be alive on irc |
| 22:30:31 | file | why? |
| 22:30:57 | Tangent | casue typing is kind of distracting when you're trying to watch a film |
| 22:31:57 | file | ahhhh ic |
| 23:26:04 | Tangent | file: Hi there :) |
| 23:26:25 | file | yellow |
