| 00:17:51 | scanline | is back (gone 00:19:38) |
| 01:20:21 | prpplague | howdy fellow arm-linux-addicts |
| 02:29:02 | jacques | hi |
| 02:29:16 | prpplague | jacques: how goes it this evening |
| 02:29:29 | jacques | ok |
| 02:29:33 | jacques | i got a new mousepad |
| 02:31:53 | prpplague | jacques: its the little things that make life great |
| 02:32:09 | prpplague | jacques: company of a beautiful woman |
| 02:32:18 | prpplague | jacques: a warm summer day |
| 02:32:29 | prpplague | jacques: visiting the latrine on company time |
| 02:32:37 | prpplague | jacques: getting a new mousepad |
| 03:26:36 | jacques | it's totally throwing off my game |
| 03:26:42 | jacques | i need to get used to it |
| 03:27:07 | jacques | i think it will be better in the long run though |
| 03:33:36 | scanline | is away: sleep |
| 17:05:55 | prpplague | morning all |
| 17:11:53 | RedBeard | hi prpplague |
| 17:43:26 | prpplague | RedBeard: how goes it? |
| 18:15:06 | RedBeard | prpplague: alright, I'm putting off building a blob image for my tuxscreen |
| 18:15:23 | RedBeard | prpplague: it's a lazy sunday |
| 18:31:23 | prpplague | RedBeard: ya same here, i'm putting off working on a "userland" app for an ipaq |
| 18:36:26 | RedBeard | I should consider working on Qtopia Desktop, that thing has so many little interface bugs/irritants.... |
| 18:37:24 | prpplague | is still an X man |
| 18:37:48 | prpplague | i know x can be pretty heavy for a handheld, but i still like it |
| 18:46:01 | RedBeard | prpplague: it's an apps issue |
| 18:46:29 | RedBeard | and an integration issue |
| 18:46:42 | RedBeard | duno, I guess I'm making excuses |
| 19:00:18 | prpplague | RedBeard: wb, thought i might have offended you or something,lol |
| 19:00:53 | RedBeard | prpplague: no, I was trying to access buy.com from linux, it is causing X to restart when I hit it with Opera or Netscape |
| 19:01:05 | RedBeard | prpplague: I'm not going to try it with any others |
| 19:02:18 | prpplague | RedBeard: ya the fun of using webpage writen by inconsiderate m$ users |
| 19:02:33 | RedBeard | prpplague: *nod* |
| 19:09:51 | prpplague | http://www.weather.com/weather/map/75605?name=index_large&day=1 |
| 19:10:11 | prpplague | hmm, we are getting alittle rain today |
| 19:11:45 | RedBeard | it's been snowing on and off all day here |
| 19:28:18 | prpplague | is back from power outage due to lighting storm |
| 19:59:24 | scanline | is back (gone 16:25:48) |
| 20:05:48 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 days, 12 hours, 53 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: not [Sat Mar 16 07:12:44 2002] |
| 20:05:48 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 20:58:48 | RedBaron | Greetings all |
| 21:02:03 | RedBaron | I'm having some problems with the latest CVS buildroot-tux. uClibc's ldso fails to compile with an assembly error of: {standard input}:44: Error: .previous wihtout corresponding .section; ignoring ..... Anyone seen this problem? |
| 21:05:18 | prpplague | RedBaron: i've not reabuilt my buildroot-tux in a while, sorry |
| 21:05:36 | RedBaron | prpplague: *nod* okay. |
| 21:08:45 | RedBaron | Well...I suppose I'll just comment out the compilation of ldso and copy that in from one of the prebuilt images |
| 21:19:14 | RedBaron | hmm...well I can get uClibc .0.9.8 to compile fine...I wonder if everything else can handle 0.9.8. |
| 21:29:39 | prpplague | mallum: howdy |
| 21:30:50 | mallum | hey prpplague |
| 21:42:36 | prpplague | mallum: working had |
| 21:44:34 | prpplague | mallum: working hard? |
| 22:25:51 | RedBaron | prpplague: ah..I think I worked around it. the problem was that as the software keep being updated, the original arm-linux cross compiler toolchain from 2 years ago no longer can hack it. |
| 22:35:09 | prpplague | RedBaron: ahh so which toolchain are you using? |
| 22:36:14 | Ailhaz | mallum: i did recieve your payment, but is your credit card the only way you can make it? to accept it i have to sign up to give them 3% |
| 22:55:06 | RedBaron | prpplague ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/toolchain/cross-2.95.3.tar.bz2 |
| 22:55:45 | RedBaron | prpplague: Its a tool chain that one of the LART guys compiled |
| 23:05:23 | prpplague | RedBaron: ya thats the one i'm using as well however the new uclibc toolchain is need for the tuxscreen build now if i'm not mistaken |
| 23:07:11 | mallum | Ailhaz: yeah I dont mind paying you an extra 3% |
| 23:12:42 | Ailhaz | oh it's not that |
| 23:12:58 | Ailhaz | it's that once i become a 'premiere' member, they take 3% off the top for everything |
| 23:14:03 | mallum | ack, thats a pain .... |
| 23:14:17 | mallum | hmmm, maybe I could order you something of the same value ? |
| 23:14:37 | mallum | Its a real hassle for me to send you international money order / do a bank transfer |
| 23:15:39 | Ailhaz | well, I don't recieve paypal payments all that often. |
| 23:16:07 | Ailhaz | BZFlag: You'd know the answer to this - with paypal premiere membership, do they take 3% of everything or just credit cards? |
| 23:16:15 | Ailhaz | the website is decidedly vague |
| 23:22:59 | RedBeard | Ailhaz: my experience (yes, I'm a paypal premiere member) is that it's 3% of CC payments only |
| 23:23:16 | BZFlag | Ailhaz: it's not 3%... but it's every payment type. |
| 23:23:41 | RedBeard | and I was just going to say the last time I dealt with it was a year ago |
| 23:23:44 | BZFlag | seems to me it's $0.35 + 2.5% or something. |
| 23:23:51 | RedBeard | plenty of time for them to have changed things |
| 23:25:38 | BZFlag | https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help&eloc=59 |
| 23:26:42 | BZFlag | http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&eloc=57 hmmm.. try this one? |
| 23:27:11 | BZFlag | ahh, better: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/fees-outside |
| 23:27:56 | Ailhaz | BZFlag: but it's for everything, not just credit cards |
| 23:28:10 | BZFlag | all payments, yes. |
| 23:28:46 | RedBeard | that's changed since I did the cap badges |
| 23:29:21 | RedBeard | paypal is getting expensive |
| 23:29:22 | BZFlag | and the preferred rates are bogus. you would have to only withdraw money as credit card payments. ie: you get 1.5% cash back for credit card purchases. |
| 23:29:58 | BZFlag | well, I'm off again... |
| 23:30:09 | Ailhaz | mallum: in the US, with paypal, bank transfers are easier than CC payments. i take it the UK is different? |
| 23:30:49 | RedBeard | yeah, when I did the cap badges, personal accounts were limmited to $100/6mo in CC payments |
| 23:30:54 | mallum | Ailhaz: yeah, they cost 20 quid ( ~30 $ ) |
| 23:31:20 | mallum | Ailhaz: I can always repay pal you the extra ? |
| 23:31:22 | RedBeard | and I recieved more than that, so I had to "upgrade" my account |
| 23:31:34 | Ailhaz | mallum: I guess here it's not really a bank transfer, technically it's a check, except there's no actual physical check |
| 23:32:18 | Ailhaz | costs $15 to do a 'wire transfer' but for some reason electronic check drafts are free |
| 23:32:35 | mallum | Ailhaz: IIRC I only see options for CC on paypal ( international account ) |
| 23:32:52 | Ailhaz | ok |
| 23:32:58 | Ailhaz | I can believe that |
| 23:33:07 | Ailhaz | well, like i said, I rarely recieve payments with paypal |
| 23:33:27 | Ailhaz | so it's not a big deal, but it's still annoying |
| 23:33:36 | mallum | yeah, sorry :( |
| 23:33:41 | Ailhaz | eh, not your fault |
| 23:34:08 | Ailhaz | paypal's just trying to break even |
| 23:35:18 | Ailhaz | if it becomes a big deal for me to not be able to get check transfers for free, I'll set up a special account just for that |
| 23:35:35 | Ailhaz | which i'm sure is against their policy |
| 23:35:53 | Ailhaz | but hey, live by the sword, die by the sword. |
| 23:36:37 | Ailhaz | the drive is more or less ready to pack up. I just need to dd /dev/zero over the whole thing and pack it up. I'll mail it tomorrow on the way to work |
| 23:38:45 | Ailhaz | it's a Hitachi DK23BA-20, btw, coincidentally the same drive as is in my new thinkpad |
| 23:39:23 | Ailhaz | http://www.hitachi.com/opstore/hdddrives/25_hdd_drive/02dk23BAseries/halp-ZZZYF5VP5QC.html |
| 23:41:32 | mallum | cool |
| 23:43:21 | Ailhaz | the thinkpad has an ata33 controller, hdparm says it tests out at 13.8 mB/s |
| 23:43:50 | Ailhaz | anyway, I'm gonna go wipe it and box it up. |
| 23:45:36 | mallum | cool |