| 00:08:25 | | 192 |
| 00:08:25 | Russ|werk | ibot: 16 * 12 |
| 00:37:21 | Morn | can someone tell me what the difference between flash rom and compact flash is? |
| 00:37:31 | Morn | is it the same thing basically? |
| 00:37:53 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Very diferent..... |
| 00:37:59 | Morn | ok |
| 00:38:06 | Morn | I thought because they were both 'flash' |
| 00:38:24 | Morn | is compact flash not subject to the same 'erase' limitations that flash rom is? |
| 00:38:24 | CosmicPenguin | Flash rom is more the *true* thing you think of when you think of flash.... |
| 00:39:00 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Compact flash acts exactly like an IDE in every case, execpt I do believe that it has a definate lifespan.... |
| 00:39:20 | CosmicPenguin | I've got a question... |
| 00:39:35 | CosmicPenguin | When I build tinylogin in uclibc, it works great.... I type root, and I have no root password so it lets me in..... |
| 00:39:50 | CosmicPenguin | When I build tinylogin with libc, it always asks me for a password, and it never lets me it.... |
| 00:39:55 | CosmicPenguin | same tree... |
| 00:39:59 | CosmicPenguin | Whats up with that? |
| 00:40:42 | Russ|werk | I think you need some addition files in /etc |
| 00:40:53 | Russ|werk | pretty sure it talks about it in the docs |
| 00:41:46 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I thought I had that part turned off (Makefile talks about USE_SYSTEM_PWD_GRP), which I have turned off.... |
| 01:13:42 | matrix | hey |
| 01:16:05 | Vito` | So, um, anyone awake who knows what the status is of the DSP under Linux? |
| 01:16:56 | CosmicPenguin | Works like a charm.... |
| 01:17:50 | Vito` | Seriously? You can write software to make phone calls, record calls, play audio, etc.? The works? |
| 01:19:49 | matrix | i know the dsp works as an audio device and the phone works fine, as for making calls and recording calls, i couldn't tell you |
| 01:20:52 | matrix | btwbtw- is anyone else using a socket communications lp-e (older pcmcia model?) |
| 01:22:05 | CosmicPenguin | Vito`: You can use it to make phone calls, dial the phone, get caller ID. You can't record phone calls yet, and the audio never went through the DSP |
| 01:24:18 | Vito` | ah, gotcha. |
| 01:24:37 | Vito` | I think it's probably time for me to order a few, then. ;) |
| 01:25:21 | matrix | i saw a link off the wiki of a hardware hack to do voip with a shannon |
| 01:26:17 | CosmicPenguin | matrix: Its more of an audio mod..... but its called shanip.... |
| 01:27:58 | matrix | cosmic- that sounds like what i was looking at, i wasn't paying too much attention to it |
| 01:29:13 | matrix | the reason i ask about the socket communications card, is i have an occasional problem with it not being recognized |
| 01:30:09 | matrix | it gets picked up as anonymous memory when that happens, not having reset doesn't help |
| 01:35:43 | CosmicPenguin | matrix: check the messages very carefully.... cardmgr is very good about telling you its ills... the most obvious reason for that particular problem is that the CIS was read incorrectly.... |
| 01:39:32 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: The problem is that ttyname() was returning (NULL).... I have no idea why.... |
| 01:42:27 | jacques | hi, what's news? |
| 01:42:59 | Morn | is back (gone 03:50:55) |
| 01:44:37 | jacques | :-\ |
| 01:45:22 | jacques | hi france |
| 01:46:44 | CosmicPenguin | There's a new Outlook virus...... oh, wait, thats not news.... |
| 01:46:51 | france | jacques: hello |
| 01:46:58 | jacques | what's outlook? |
| 01:47:09 | Morn | who would have guessed? |
| 01:47:28 | france | does anybody know if cpan or www.perl.com is the official web site for perl? |
| 01:47:38 | Morn | cpan is for modules |
| 01:47:43 | Morn | www.perl.com is for perl |
| 01:47:50 | france | Morn: thank you. |
| 01:48:28 | france | Morn: do you have a short discription to answer "what is perl?" |
| 01:48:42 | CosmicPenguin | Its the scripting language of the Gods.... |
| 01:48:44 | Morn | perl is the duct tape of programming |
| 01:49:11 | france | a high-level programming language with an eclectic heritage ?? |
| 01:49:42 | Morn | I often tell my clients that want to use perl for web scripting... that perl for web scripting is kinda like the Wright plane, it's really a bicycle, but it got off the ground |
| 01:49:52 | france | I am looking for a short sentence to put on a web page. :-) |
| 01:50:20 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: thats awesome |
| 01:50:43 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: do you want the second part? |
| 01:50:52 | france | I will be back, singing people at the door. |
| 01:52:06 | | jacques: no idea |
| 01:52:06 | jacques | ibot: outlook? |
| 01:52:12 | jacques | me neither |
| 01:52:19 | Morn | ibot is smart |
| 01:52:34 | Morn | jaques: outlook is an email client from Microsoft. |
| 01:52:44 | Morn | it is so full of holes and bugs to make it very bad |
| 01:52:51 | france | back |
| 01:52:53 | jacques | ah |
| 01:53:21 | Morn | it's very easily exploited for viruses and such |
| 01:53:31 | Morn | and Outlook Express comes with the OS |
| 01:53:50 | jacques | only microsloth could come you pwith an email client that executes email |
| 01:53:57 | jacques | come you pwith |
| 01:54:00 | jacques | dammit |
| 01:54:03 | jacques | come up with |
| 01:54:18 | | CosmicPenguin: huh? |
| 01:54:18 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: outlook |
| 01:54:29 | jacques | i wonder whose brilliant idea that was |
| 01:54:35 | CosmicPenguin | He should learn these things by watching the conversation |
| 01:54:41 | | OK, CosmicPenguin. |
| 01:54:41 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: Outlook is a bad idea from M$ |
| 01:55:38 | Morn | they got the name backwards |
| 01:55:43 | Morn | it should be Look Out! |
| 01:55:58 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: I'm getting my own Ipaq tommorrow... woo-hoo! That means that I will end up fixing the annoying Pixil bugs that much faster.... |
| 01:56:14 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: What was the second part of your perl saying? |
| 01:56:17 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: you didn't have your own? |
| 01:56:26 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: No, can you believe that? |
| 01:56:41 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: the second part is about PHP 'PHP is a 747 of web scripting, it was built from the ground up to fly' |
| 01:56:48 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: no I can't |
| 01:57:24 | jacques | Morn: i guess you like php better than perl for web scripting? |
| 01:57:28 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: This is true..... |
| 01:57:39 | Morn | jacques: yes, I'm a php wizard |
| 01:57:47 | jacques | cool |
| 01:57:48 | Morn | and my clients have learned to love php too |
| 01:58:08 | jacques | next lang i learn will probably be python |
| 01:58:23 | france | Morn: :-) |
| 01:58:39 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: I just figured out what was causing my qpe installs to fail so badkly |
| 01:58:46 | france | Morn: hh.org needs a ton of php work> |
| 01:59:02 | france | any volunteers? |
| 01:59:05 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Thing is though, when you are not web scripting, the opposite is true... PHP really can't hang in stuff like Makefiles |
| 01:59:10 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: why? |
| 01:59:30 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: php can do normal shell scripting though |
| 01:59:48 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: the installs failed because all the sym links in the library dirs were broken |
| 01:59:58 | Morn | everything was symlinked to 1 not the real library |
| 02:01:08 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Bad news... |
| 02:01:27 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: I had noticed it in /usr/lib and fixed it |
| 02:01:35 | Morn | but it was also happening in the plugin dirs |
| 02:01:41 | Morn | which caused all the plugins to fail |
| 02:01:49 | Morn | it took 6 installs to figure it out |
| 02:03:04 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Did they do a copy with out a -a?? |
| 02:03:20 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: I think it is ipkg that is broken |
| 02:03:25 | Morn | this happend with other stuff too |
| 02:03:29 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhhh.... |
| 02:03:45 | Morn | like the symlinks in /etc/rc2.d/ that should point in ../init.d/ they point at 1 too |
| 02:04:01 | Morn | I had the right idea, just didn't fix EVERYTHING |
| 02:06:51 | Morn | i |
| 02:06:54 | Morn | ooops |
| 02:07:03 | Morn | thought I was in the vim window |
| 02:07:47 | thekernel | 's oil was a quart high in a 2.5 quart system... |
| 02:07:59 | thekernel | oops :) |
| 02:09:04 | Morn | well one good thing about reinstalling qpe 8 times is I can now do all the by hand fixes in my sleep |
| 02:10:12 | thekernel | qpe? |
| 02:10:28 | Morn | qtopia (QT Embedded) |
| 02:10:31 | Morn | for the ipaq |
| 02:10:34 | jacques | thekernel: :-\ |
| 02:10:37 | CosmicPenguin | One problem with Pixil is that the apps don't scale beyond a 240x320 screen.... :( |
| 02:11:56 | thekernel | I thought that was a design choice :) |
| 02:14:44 | | 23.4375 |
| 02:14:44 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: 15000 / 640 |
| 02:14:49 | thekernel | We really should fix that though... |
| 02:15:24 | | 4 |
| 02:15:24 | jacques | ibot: two plus two |
| 02:15:37 | thekernel | is off to have a life |
| 02:15:51 | | thekernel: sorry... |
| 02:15:51 | thekernel | ibot: 320x240x16/8 |
| 02:15:52 | Morn | I want ibot to be able to do fib(20) |
| 02:15:54 | | 2.14285714285714 |
| 02:15:54 | jacques | ibot: 15 divided by seven |
| 02:16:02 | | thekernel: what? |
| 02:16:02 | thekernel | ibot: 320 x 240 x 16 / 8 |
| 02:16:06 | thekernel | doh! |
| 02:16:08 | | jacques: excuse me? |
| 02:16:08 | jacques | ibot: one divided by zero |
| 02:16:16 | thekernel | one devided by one |
| 02:16:24 | | thekernel: huh? |
| 02:16:24 | thekernel | ibot: one devided by one |
| 02:16:28 | thekernel | doh |
| 02:16:40 | jacques | thekernel: divided |
| 02:16:50 | | 1 |
| 02:16:50 | thekernel | ibot: one divided by one |
| 02:16:57 | thekernel | i,e they are all the same |
| 02:17:12 | thekernel | I raise my middle finger to them both :) |
| 02:19:03 | | i think pi is 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412737245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519 |
| 02:19:03 | jacques | ibot: pi |
| 02:19:07 | Morn | is this sick or what, I feel like if my computer isn't busy doing something that cpu cycles are wasted, and I can't get them back |
| 02:19:26 | | Morn: i'm not following you... |
| 02:19:26 | Morn | ibot obviously didn't calculate it to that many digits that quickly |
| 02:19:55 | | i haven't a clue, jacques |
| 02:19:55 | jacques | ibot: what constants do you know? |
| 02:20:10 | | e is a little more than 2, but less than 3 |
| 02:20:10 | jacques | ibot: e |
| 02:20:42 | CosmicPenguin | Hey, I tried to use that same answer on a math test once.... |
| 02:20:57 | BZFlag | heh |
| 02:21:14 | | CosmicPenguin: huh? |
| 02:21:14 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: derivative of e |
| 02:21:17 | Morn | I can't believe that at one time they tried to make a law saying pi was only 3 |
| 02:21:28 | CosmicPenguin | Did I spell that wrong? |
| 02:21:31 | jacques | HEH |
| 02:21:38 | BZFlag | sounds like a good law to me. just get nature to change it. |
| 02:21:51 | | jacques: excuse me? |
| 02:21:51 | jacques | ibot: h |
| 02:22:06 | | c is for cookie |
| 02:22:06 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: C |
| 02:22:13 | CosmicPenguin | Uhhh.... |
| 02:22:15 | jacques | cookie!!! |
| 02:22:19 | jacques | gimme cookie!!! |
| 02:22:27 | jacques | COOKIE! |
| 02:22:31 | CosmicPenguin | That was completely unexpected... |
| 02:22:56 | | i haven't a clue, jacques |
| 02:22:56 | jacques | ibot: what is the speed of light? |
| 02:23:54 | | jacques: wish i knew |
| 02:23:54 | jacques | ibot: speed of sound at sea level on earth? |
| 02:24:03 | CosmicPenguin | me too |
| 02:24:21 | | i don't know, jacques |
| 02:24:21 | jacques | ibot: how far away is Alpha Centauri? |
| 02:24:26 | jacques | sig |
| 02:24:28 | jacques | sigh |
| 02:25:18 | | OK, jacques. |
| 02:25:18 | jacques | ibot: Alpha Centauri is approximately 4.3 light years distant from Earth's solar system. |
| 02:28:41 | | no idea, cosmicpenguin |
| 02:28:41 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: how far is a light year? |
| 02:28:50 | | CosmicPenguin: excuse me? |
| 02:28:50 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: Next time, get my name right |
| 02:28:55 | CosmicPenguin | There you go... |
| 02:29:00 | jacques | heh |
| 02:29:48 | | 9.4608e+16 |
| 02:29:48 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: 3000000000 * (60 * 60 * 24 * 365) |
| 02:29:59 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a lot of meters.. |
| 02:30:57 | | jacques: huh? |
| 02:30:57 | jacques | ibot: convert 9.4608e+16 to miles |
| 02:31:05 | | jacques: sorry... |
| 02:31:05 | jacques | ibot: convert 9.4608e+16 meters to miles |
| 02:32:32 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: Got the DT up and running with nano-X... woo-hoo! |
| 02:32:40 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: fixed the Orderrite... woo-hoo! |
| 02:32:47 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: Its been a productive day |
| 02:33:45 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: DT? |
| 02:34:08 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: you have ts working with latest kernels in nano-x on tuxscreen? |
| 02:34:36 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: unfortunately not.... I'm thinking the beginning of the year if I can't convince thekernel to do it for me |
| 02:34:47 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: ah :-\ |
| 02:36:12 | CosmicPenguin | I love turning off motherboards with a dime.... :) |
| 02:36:22 | CosmicPenguin | I'm headed home, I'll see you all when I get there..... |
| 02:36:49 | | Keyser: what? |
| 02:36:49 | Keyser | ibot: 9.4608e16 * 3.048/5280 |
| 02:36:58 | | Keyser: huh? |
| 02:36:58 | Keyser | ibot: 9.4608e+16 * 3.048/5280 |
| 02:37:18 | | 54614618181818.2 |
| 02:37:18 | Keyser | ibot: 94608000000000000 * 3.048/5280 |
| 03:16:51 | CosmicPenguin | Did we ever figure out how long a light year was? |
| 03:41:23 | CosmicPenguin | Geez... can that answer be any simpler? |
| 03:55:31 | matrix | a light year is a year is a year |
| 03:56:37 | CosmicPenguin | Am I that lagged? |
| 03:56:57 | matrix | which just happens to be how long it's taking me to boot off a floppy |
| 03:57:30 | matrix | cosmicpenguin- if that's a reference to however long it took me to reply, i just got back to the keyboard |
| 03:57:39 | matrix | :p |
| 03:57:48 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh.... |
| 03:58:50 | matrix | sorry for the mixup |
| 04:48:38 | jacques | anyone know how to hot-swap ide drives under linux? |
| 04:53:38 | Morn | is away: watching tv |
| 04:57:04 | jacques | maybe there's a better channel for that question |
| 05:01:15 | jacques | man the ppl on #linux are idiots |
| 07:19:42 | Sammy | is DCC again :) |
| 09:20:51 | julien | hi all |
| 10:28:44 | rand | hi julien |
| 10:44:36 | julien | I'm trying to get my tuxscreen working .... |
| 10:44:44 | julien | It is running, I can get a serial connection |
| 10:44:48 | julien | but no display :( |
| 10:44:52 | julien | some idea about that ? |
| 10:47:58 | rand | wish i knew julien |
| 10:48:05 | rand | i'm just a lurker :) |
| 10:48:19 | julien | hmmm |
| 10:48:40 | julien | I will have to wait until somebody wakes up ... |
| 10:48:52 | rand | yup |
| 10:49:20 | rand | Morn mentioned the tuxscreens and it looked interest so now i hang out :) |
| 10:49:40 | julien | where are you from ? |
| 10:50:37 | rand | california |
| 10:52:07 | rand | and you? |
| 10:52:31 | julien | what time is it there ? |
| 10:52:54 | julien | belgium, it is about 12:00 |
| 10:53:03 | rand | it's almost 3 AM |
| 10:53:18 | rand | and it's 6 AM in New York |
| 10:53:50 | julien | hmmm everybody is still sleeping :-) |
| 10:53:57 | rand | yeah ... |
| 11:01:42 | julien | Is there a mailing-list for tuxscreen ? |
| 11:13:45 | rand | I don't know, julien |
| 11:14:09 | rand | Morn gave me the url to tuxscreen (it's www.tuxscreen.org isn't it)...that's about all I know right now |
| 11:14:20 | rand | i have it bookmarked |
| 11:30:27 | file | grumbles |
| 11:30:35 | | file: i don't know |
| 11:30:35 | file | ibot: UGT? |
| 11:30:42 | file | yes you do! |
| 11:30:52 | file | no wait... it t'was another bot |
| 14:37:54 | julien | hi GPSFan |
| 14:38:14 | GPSFan | morning julien: |
| 14:39:00 | julien | afternoon for me :) |
| 14:39:18 | GPSFan | julien: uk? |
| 14:39:36 | julien | GPSFan: belgium |
| 14:40:12 | julien | I think I've found the problem with my tuxscreen |
| 14:40:34 | GPSFan | good, what was wrong? |
| 14:40:48 | julien | the wire of the ribbon cable that goes to the HT of the display seems broken |
| 14:40:58 | julien | (but I don't have my tester with me ...) |
| 14:41:38 | GPSFan | by HT you mean High Tension as in backlight high voltage? |
| 14:41:48 | julien | The "computer" part works ok, serial connection with inferno is fine :-) |
| 14:42:15 | julien | yes High Tension, I didn't know it was for the backlight ... |
| 14:42:32 | julien | is it ? |
| 14:44:13 | GPSFan | well, if it is 2 silicon rubber wires comming out of the little board to the side of the display, it is high voltage 800-1000V low current, but also about 50KHz. be careful of this, it will break down most scope probes. ans burn fingers if touched. |
| 14:44:30 | GPSFan | s/ans/and |
| 14:45:35 | julien | thanks, useful to know :) |
| 14:47:11 | GPSFan | the other signals for the display all are in standard ribbon cable that goes to 2 connectors on the other side of the display. they are 3.3V logic levels, and 2 analog voltages for contrast, and backlight intensity control. |
| 14:47:43 | GPSFan | the analog signals are also low voltage. |
| 14:48:48 | julien | ok |
| 14:52:52 | Morn | is back (gone 09:59:14) |
| 15:02:37 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:06:04 | thekernel | morning |
| 15:06:23 | thekernel | Did you know that putting too much oil in a car can do bad things :) |
| 15:06:38 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:06:58 | prpplague | i new a girl in high school that 2 quarts of oil in the radiator |
| 15:07:00 | thekernel | old VW engins are tiny |
| 15:08:05 | thekernel | I had 3.5 quarts in a system that apparently only needs 2.5 |
| 15:09:35 | thekernel | I was at 3 and thought I didn't have enough after my oil change (My oil light was turning on). I put another 1/2 quart in and then found that the oil light will come on for both too much and too litle oil |
| 15:10:07 | thekernel | From now on I will always check the dipstick |
| 15:11:11 | thekernel | prpplague: I could never make the radiator mistake... My car is air cooled. |
| 15:11:58 | thekernel | starts getting ready for work with much haste |
| 15:18:11 | julien | GPSFan: It is not the ribbon cable :( |
| 15:19:21 | GPSFan | julien: how did you determine that, ring it out? |
| 15:22:52 | julien | GPSFan: it is not broken |
| 15:23:35 | GPSFan | julien: do you have another tux to swap parts out on? |
| 15:23:49 | julien | yes |
| 15:24:09 | julien | GPSFan: I tried with the other screen, it works perfectly |
| 15:24:51 | GPSFan | julien: good, try opening up the display assembly and swap out the backlight inverter. |
| 15:25:47 | julien | GPSFan: ok |
| 15:25:50 | BZFlag | doa unit? |
| 15:30:48 | GPSFan | BZFlag: one of julien's units has a display problem. might be the display, cable, or backlight inverter. |
| 15:36:41 | BZFlag | it showed up that way? |
| 15:37:20 | GPSFan | apparently. |
| 15:38:08 | BZFlag | if so, check cables etc to see that it's not just a loose connection. Try to determine exactly what is brokwn, email me the info and we can probably arrange to cross ship a replacement. |
| 15:39:03 | BZFlag | bb l8r |
| 15:39:23 | julien | GPSFan: That's it ! |
| 15:39:55 | julien | GPSFan: I mean the backlight inverter |
| 15:40:32 | GPSFan | julien: good, BL inverters aren't too reliable, now all you need is a good one. see BZFlag's message above. |
| 15:41:03 | julien | ok |
| 15:41:25 | julien | thank you veyr very much ! |
| 15:41:46 | GPSFan | julien: np ;>) |
| 15:48:31 | thekernel | What's the sign of a bad backlight inverter? |
| 15:49:48 | julien | thekernel: you see nothing on the screen |
| 15:49:56 | julien | thekernel: ;) |
| 15:50:06 | thekernel | Like, dim nothing or nothing nothing... |
| 15:50:20 | thekernel | about 2/3 of my screen is really dark |
| 15:51:04 | julien | thekernel: the whole mine is dark, there really nothing at all |
| 15:51:16 | thekernel | Doh |
| 15:51:27 | thekernel | thinks that could be his problem... |
| 16:19:11 | BZFlag | is back. |
| 16:19:34 | BZFlag | GPSFan: where is the inverter? |
| 16:20:37 | BZFlag | http://TuxScreen.net/img/mvc-616f.jpg <- the portion on the left? |
| 16:20:37 | prpplague | anyone know of a frame-relay device for pc/104? |
| 16:21:31 | julien | BZFlag: that's it |
| 16:22:41 | BZFlag | julien: and we confirmed it's not just a loose connection? ie: you can put the bad one in the good phone and it becomes bad? |
| 16:25:44 | julien | BZFlag: no, I only put the good one in the bad phone ... I try this now |
| 16:28:12 | BZFlag | ok. /me waits. ;-) |
| 16:33:41 | BZFlag | wishes some hw type would hack on the display to see if 16 bit color is possible. |
| 16:35:50 | julien | BZFlag: you can forget my mail ... the bad phone becomes a good one |
| 16:36:29 | julien | BZFlag: you were right with loose connection. Do it happen often ? |
| 16:38:31 | BZFlag | not often, but it does happen. so both phones work now? |
| 16:41:18 | julien | Yes, now everything is OK |
| 16:41:26 | julien | I can begin to hack :-) |
| 16:42:03 | julien | thanks a lot :)) |
| 16:51:03 | BZFlag | no problem. glad it worked out! |
| 16:58:09 | GPSFan | BZFlag: glad to hear it was a bac connection rather than a bad inverter. and yes the board on the left is the inverter. |
| 16:59:02 | BZFlag | sweet. well I'm outta here. back on later. |
| 16:59:27 | GPSFan | BZFlag: 16bit color on a DSTN (or passive color) LCD is an issue for the display controller (SA1100 in our case) since the shades of grey are done by frame rate modulation. |
| 17:00:08 | GPSFan | oops, he's gone, but ibot remembers. |
| 17:00:43 | julien | GPSFan: what really does ibot ? |
| 17:01:02 | | i am it sucks to be you |
| 17:01:02 | GPSFan | ibot: ibot |
| 17:01:16 | | it has been said that i am it sucks to be you |
| 17:01:16 | GPSFan | ibot: what are you? |
| 17:01:30 | julien | lol |
| 17:01:51 | GPSFan | great, now ibot's schitoid. |
| 17:07:50 | julien | goobye everybody |
| 17:31:28 | prpplague | morn Morn |
| 17:31:45 | Morn | gutten morgen (I think I spelled that right) |
| 17:41:13 | prpplague | Morn: break any good code yet today? |
| 17:42:14 | Morn | I've discovered a few major bugs in the new familiar distro which cause trouble with qpe |
| 17:47:19 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm.... I get my Ipaq this afternoon.... |
| 17:59:56 | kernelwork | doh |
| 18:00:16 | kernelwork | That backspace key and enter key really are close... |
| 18:02:20 | Russ|werk | trying to backspace rm -rf /? |
| 18:38:36 | kernelwork | No, nothing that bad. doh was in my scrollback buffer :) I was backspacing it... |
| 18:49:49 | | AlHazWork: what? |
| 18:49:49 | AlHazWork | ibot: doh |
| 18:49:54 | AlHazWork | oh yeah, no homerisms in ibot |
| 19:09:46 | ctr | is away: hack0ring. will be back. at somepoint. |
| 19:27:35 | prpplague | anyone here purchase a sharp pda yet? |
| 19:27:45 | file | nope. |
| 19:34:59 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Some of these guys probably got to play with one before they hit the market.... :) |
| 19:35:12 | | Go to http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ |
| 19:35:12 | file | ibot: Lart? |
| 19:35:24 | file | Thank you, Monsieur Bot. |
| 19:47:50 | Tangent | Hi all.. what's new this week? |
| 19:48:11 | file | my new-found want for a WebSurfer set-top box |
| 19:48:32 | Tangent | file : Are you sure you really want that... |
| 19:48:45 | file | yes... |
| 19:48:50 | file | will you sell me one for $35? |
| 19:49:00 | Tangent | erm.... no |
| 19:49:08 | file | why, don't got one? |
| 19:49:10 | Tangent | Playstation Linux? |
| 19:49:18 | file | Playstation? no. |
| 19:51:38 | Tangent | file : You can pick up a Compaq IA1 for $99 from TigerDirect |
| 19:51:51 | Tangent | file : Should be good for web browsing |
| 19:54:44 | AlHazWork | I'd like to have an mp3 player stereo component, and a settop box would make a good chassis for that |
| 19:55:08 | AlHazWork | but at this point I'm not holding my breath |
| 19:55:44 | AlHazWork | all I'd really need is a simple browser to walk through my streaming server's indeces and feed m3u files to irmp3, prolly |
| 20:21:14 | Russ|werk | Some features of ppp include |
| 20:21:24 | Russ|werk | * works sometimes |
| 20:36:13 | prpplague | who here was needing c++ support in uclibc |
| 20:36:14 | prpplague | ? |
| 20:40:00 | prpplague | wonders if everyone is sleeping? |
| 20:40:34 | pattieja | prpplague: not me (yet) |
| 20:42:10 | prpplague | pattieja: ha, you don't count anyway, your a ltsp guru!lol |
| 20:42:20 | pattieja | :( |
| 20:43:56 | prpplague | pattieja: jk |
| 20:44:18 | prpplague | pattieja: hows the ia-1 doing anyway |
| 20:45:45 | pattieja | prpplague: really sweet! (except for really poor video refresh on the mouse, etc.) |
| 20:46:14 | pattieja | prpplague: I got my optical mouse the other day, plugged it in, within about 20 minutes of hacking the read-only filesystem cramfs image on jailbait, I had a really good working mouse! |
| 20:46:24 | kernelwork | What's ia-1? |
| 20:46:26 | pattieja | it rocks |
| 20:46:45 | pattieja | kernelwork: Compaq iPAQ Home Internet Appliance IA-1 also known as the MSN Companion |
| 20:46:55 | kernelwork | Oh.. That... |
| 20:47:02 | prpplague | pattieja: i've got to get time to load mine with the tcsx software |
| 20:47:04 | kernelwork | You use ltsp? |
| 20:47:09 | pattieja | yep |
| 20:47:17 | prpplague | uses a hybrid ltsp |
| 20:47:17 | pattieja | prpplague: should be a no-brainer |
| 20:47:35 | kernelwork | I'd like to setup my debian box to be a terminal server... |
| 20:47:50 | prpplague | pattieja: tcsx standard is still running 2.2.14 kernel, we haven't had a need to upgrade |
| 20:47:57 | kernelwork | Isn't most of it just debian config files? |
| 20:47:59 | pattieja | kernelwork: no problem. The latest debs for LTSP 3.0.0 are comin' out fairly soon, I think |
| 20:48:02 | kernelwork | er.. X config files |
| 20:48:41 | kernelwork | What I really need to do is get a client machine setup properly |
| 20:48:47 | pattieja | kernelwork: that, plus quite a bit more. You can run local apps as well. So you have to get the libraries and dependencies worked out, etc. |
| 20:49:00 | kernelwork | ohh... local app you say |
| 20:49:15 | pattieja | but it will run remote apps from the application server out of the box, no sweat |
| 20:49:43 | kernelwork | Does the user need to authenticate against the app server? |
| 20:49:47 | pattieja | I'm sweatin' tryin' to get NSSE installed, though. Didn't read all the directions properly. Forgot one little patch. |
| 20:49:57 | kernelwork | NSSE? |
| 20:50:02 | pattieja | kernelwork: yep. Or whatever the app. server is authenticating against. |
| 20:50:14 | pattieja | NeTraverse Server Standard Edition (Win4Lin) |
| 20:50:22 | kernelwork | Ah.. |
| 20:51:32 | kernelwork | jattieja: is there a line I can put in my sources.list file so I can get LTSP debs? |
| 20:51:59 | kernelwork | doesn't download .debs he apt-get's them :) |
| 20:52:19 | pattieja | I don't personally use debian, so I don't know where the deb packages are located. sorry |
| 20:52:33 | kernelwork | I'm sure I can find them then... |
| 20:52:36 | pattieja | they might just happen to be located on the sourceforge download site |
| 20:52:59 | kernelwork | nah.. That would be a silly place for them :) |
| 20:53:45 | pattieja | what'ya know, there they are |
| 20:53:50 | pattieja | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17723 |
| 20:54:36 | kernelwork | Right after RTFM should be SUAL "Shut Up And Look" |
| 20:55:03 | pattieja | who me? |
| 20:55:07 | kernelwork | No me |
| 20:56:03 | kernelwork | ltsp uses x 3.3.6? |
| 20:56:32 | kernelwork | Is that for the terminal itself? |
| 20:56:39 | kernelwork | retracts the last question. |
| 20:57:07 | kernelwork | It's a shame that some of us don't realize how dumb a question is until we read it |
| 20:57:15 | kernelwork | ie. me |
| 21:00:30 | prpplague | i.e. what year did the war of 1812 occure in? |
| 21:04:29 | pattieja | prpplague: wasn't that in 1811? |
| 21:04:35 | pattieja | :) |
| 21:22:42 | prpplague | pattieja: yes i believe you are correct |
| 21:24:34 | prpplague | who here was needing c++ support in uclibc? |
| 21:24:42 | CosmicPenguin | pattieja: no, no... 1812 was when they wrote the story about the war.... the actual war happened 10 years earlier... :) |
| 21:24:48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Who here doesn't need it? |
| 21:25:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm trolling for what ppl what to do with it, i've agreed to pay andersee for to add it to uclibc |
| 21:31:35 | prpplague | http://www.militaryheritage.com/1812.htm |
| 21:50:21 | pattieja | prpplague: I was just joking. What it really was was a ploy to make another song |
| 21:50:29 | pattieja | :) |
| 21:50:39 | CosmicPenguin | eroo |
| 21:50:50 | CosmicPenguin | wrong keyboard again.... thats twice... |
| 21:51:15 | file | thwaps his telephone company |
| 21:51:49 | kernelwork | watches the telephone company respond by grinding file into small bits "We are the phone company, we don't have to care" |
| 21:52:07 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:52:20 | prpplague | http://www.verizonreallysucks.com |
| 21:52:22 | file | they say I don't have internet from them. |
| 21:52:26 | file | But I'm on it right now |
| 21:52:35 | file | and they messed up my cellular account for a week |
| 21:53:18 | file | I'm switching to Rogers AT&T. |
| 22:00:03 | kernelwork | I think I'll switch over to TGM for my phone service... |
| 22:00:11 | kernelwork | TGM being The Grand Monopoly |
| 22:00:29 | CosmicPenguin | kernelwork: Don't forget.... they're not TGM east of Colorado.... |
| 22:04:09 | kernelwork | Do they still suffer like we do? |
| 22:08:38 | | bzflag was last seen on #tuxscreen 5 hours, 9 minutes and 36 seconds ago, saying: sweet. well I'm outta here. back on later. [Fri Dec 21 16:59:02 2001] |
| 22:08:38 | nelson | ibot: seen bzflag? |
| 22:10:30 | EGg0 | is away: I'm painting myself blue and running naked in the street. |
| 22:10:59 | CosmicPenguin | TinyX takes sooooo long to build the first time |
| 22:30:26 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: did you order leauge of gentlemen ? |
| 22:30:31 | Keyser | anyone have an opinion of mandrake? |
| 22:30:34 | | file: no idea |
| 22:30:34 | file | ibot: WebSurfer? |
| 22:30:40 | file | Keyser: Fun. |
| 22:31:02 | Keyser | file: fun? |
| 22:31:15 | file | it's more of a Graphical Linux distro |
| 22:31:23 | file | nothing bad with it |
| 22:31:28 | Keyser | i've only used SuSE myself, but I've been hearing about the "gaming edition" of mandrake |
| 22:31:44 | file | uh huh |
| 22:32:02 | file | well try it |
| 22:32:16 | Keyser | the source code for wineX is available for download, so i could (in theory) use it with my current distro |
| 22:32:58 | AlHazWork | Mandrake is like RedHat but with baby chickens & bunnies |
| 22:33:06 | file | AlHazWork: lol |
| 22:33:07 | AlHazWork | and about an inch of marshmallow creme |
| 22:33:12 | file | Give me a good ol' tcsh prompt anyday. |
| 22:33:12 | Keyser | yay! i love chickens and bunnies. |
| 22:33:25 | Keyser | http://sourceforge.net/projects/winex |
| 22:33:27 | AlHazWork | and candy sprinkles on top |
| 22:33:56 | file | I want a WebSurfer box... |
| 22:34:02 | AlHazWork | file: You've said that |
| 22:34:09 | file | I know |
| 22:34:10 | AlHazWork | file: Have you considered the AOL TV box? |
| 22:34:11 | file | I saw it alot |
| 22:34:22 | file | AlHazWork: WebSurfer is cheaper |
| 22:34:24 | Keyser | websurfer box? |
| 22:34:25 | AlHazWork | file: Not as much ram, and you can't upgrade the ram, but just as fast, and it comes with a harddrive |
| 22:34:26 | AlHazWork | where? |
| 22:34:41 | file | EBay. |
| 22:34:44 | AlHazWork | I can get an aol-tv box for $70 on ebay right now. can't find a websurfer pro for less than $100 |
| 22:34:55 | AlHazWork | I can get four aol-tv boxes for $70/ea actually |
| 22:34:59 | file | what's the specs on the AOL-TV boxes? |
| 22:35:20 | AlHazWork | file: same cpu, same chipset, 5gb hd, 8 or 12 megs of ram depending on random chance |
| 22:35:25 | AlHazWork | but the ram is soldered to the board |
| 22:35:28 | file | uh huh |
| 22:35:28 | AlHazWork | no slots |
| 22:35:38 | file | neat'o\ |
| 22:35:43 | AlHazWork | one usb port, etc |
| 22:35:57 | file | can you point me to a URL with info about getting Linux on it? |
| 22:35:59 | AlHazWork | the "hack" is literally to pop the harddrive in a pc and install linux on it |
| 22:36:05 | file | sips on his pop |
| 22:36:07 | AlHazWork | hten shove it back in the aol-tv |
| 22:36:21 | AlHazWork | 'cause it has normal pc bios on it |
| 22:36:26 | file | neat |
| 22:36:40 | Keyser | get a book pc, with an i810 MB, ~500mhz celeron (so the HSF can be smaller and quieter). they have 3d video, tv out, DVD drive, onboard sound and LAN. |
| 22:36:52 | file | Keyser: cost? |
| 22:37:00 | Keyser | 300+ |
| 22:37:03 | AlHazWork | Keyser: I can't figure out where to actually aquire one of those |
| 22:37:04 | file | too much |
| 22:37:07 | prpplague | Keyser: argh too bookpc i've had lots of problems |
| 22:37:10 | AlHazWork | they used to be cheaper than that, too |
| 22:37:25 | Keyser | oops, i meant 300?, not 300+ |
| 22:37:39 | AlHazWork | Keyser: I've considered getting an NLX chassis, mb, etc, and just using that |
| 22:37:43 | AlHazWork | semi-commodity parts, after all |
| 22:37:44 | file | I can imagine myself leaving my TV on with the AOL TV on too, with an xterm session open |
| 22:37:47 | AlHazWork | and roughly as small, some of 'em |
| 22:37:57 | Keyser | alhazwork: yeah, that's the same thing. |
| 22:38:02 | AlHazWork | TVs make lousy terminals |
| 22:38:17 | file | doesn't matter to me |
| 22:38:17 | AlHazWork | Keyser: the BookPC boxes i saw were proprietary |
| 22:38:22 | AlHazWork | NLX is an intel formfactor standard |
| 22:38:36 | prpplague | http://www.rise.com.tw/booksize.htm |
| 22:38:38 | file | AlHazWork: can you point me to a page regarding the AOL-TV? |
| 22:38:40 | prpplague | check those out |
| 22:38:46 | Keyser | really? that's odd. i've seen NLX and microATX, and LPX book pcs |
| 22:39:11 | mallum | http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1311320010 |
| 22:39:13 | AlHazWork | http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=aoltv&Post=1&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session= |
| 22:39:21 | AlHazWork | that's about all i've seen |
| 22:39:25 | file | I'm there right now |
| 22:39:29 | AlHazWork | Keyser: I'm refering to the ones that say "BookPC" on the box |
| 22:39:40 | AlHazWork | (tm) |
| 22:39:50 | Keyser | oh. i was using 'book pc' as a generic name |
| 22:40:08 | file | thinks this AOL-TV is nice |
| 22:40:14 | prpplague | was talking about "BookPC"tm |
| 22:41:51 | file | hrm |
| 22:41:59 | AlHazWork | Keyser: the ram is very limited tho |
| 22:42:04 | AlHazWork | er, file: |
| 22:42:09 | file | yeah I know... |
| 22:42:14 | file | X Windows would run... shaky |
| 22:42:17 | AlHazWork | I'm undecided, myself |
| 22:42:26 | AlHazWork | I'll prolly just get a small quiet pc |
| 22:42:43 | file | how much can you get an AOL-TV for? |
| 22:43:43 | Keyser | if you search for "book pc" on pricewatch, there are many that use an intel 810 MB, for $150-200, without CPU, mem, HD |
| 22:44:52 | AlHazWork | file: There are a few on ebay with a buy-it-now of $75, and one with a $50 or so b-i-n |
| 22:45:01 | file | uh huh |
| 22:45:04 | file | not bad |
| 22:45:17 | file | we'll see... |
| 22:45:18 | AlHazWork | Keyser: And theoretically I could stick a cyrixIII cpu in there with a huge heatsink and no fan |
| 22:45:30 | AlHazWork | Keyser: and I've got a flash drive i can boot it off of . . . |
| 22:46:19 | AlHazWork | Not a fantastic CPU, but heck, if all it has to do is play mp3 streams from my server upstairs . . |
| 22:46:33 | AlHazWork | the two drives in my tivo are loud enough as it is |
| 22:46:38 | Keyser | it might even boot off the network |
| 22:46:45 | file | has never used/seen a TiVo before |
| 22:48:31 | Keyser | i guess it doesn't even need a HD. so 150 for the box with MB, floppy, and DVD drive, $20 for memory, $50 for a CPU |
| 22:48:34 | AlHazWork | file: if you watch tv, tivo will change your life, basically. |
| 22:48:52 | file | AlHazWork: uh huh |
| 22:49:06 | file | looks at pictures of his new cellphone, it's in the mail. |
| 22:49:10 | AlHazWork | it takes the linearity out of watching tv |
| 22:49:20 | AlHazWork | you can hit pause and go do something else, etc |
| 22:49:28 | file | i think I had a dream once that I had a TiVo... |
| 22:49:57 | AlHazWork | you can set it up to record the show you wanna watch automatically, so you never have to think "Damn, i'm gonna miss Foo because I'm working late" |
| 22:50:08 | file | doesn't work |
| 22:50:17 | file | I beg for stuff |
| 22:50:21 | file | like I got my PDA for free :) |
| 22:50:36 | Keyser | how's that working out for you? begging, that is. |
| 22:50:44 | file | pretty good. |
| 22:51:16 | AlHazWork | I used to know a guy who grew up to be a bum |
| 22:51:28 | file | I only beg for stuff cause I'm young |
| 22:51:32 | AlHazWork | got tired of his parents asking if he was going to eventually do something or just be a bum all his life |
| 22:51:36 | file | another year... |
| 22:52:02 | AlHazWork | last I heard he was living in a condemned building in newark or something |
| 22:52:05 | Keyser | how old are you? |
| 22:52:09 | file | 15. |
| 22:52:35 | Keyser | eek. i feel old |
| 22:52:47 | file | haha |
| 22:54:38 | AlHazWork | anyway, I'm going on vacation soon, so that stuff has to wait a few months before I'll have cash to throw around again |
| 22:54:44 | file | uh huh |
| 22:55:12 | file | ROAD RAGE! |
| 22:56:23 | AlHazWork | but I'll probably get a really small pc and underclock a cyrixIII cpu in it and have it boot off of flash or just straight off the network. or, heck, a floppy. as few moving parts as possible being the general idea. |
| 22:56:35 | file | uh huh |
| 22:56:53 | Russ|werk | hey andersee |
| 22:57:05 | file | I just want something to play with :) |
| 22:57:15 | AlHazWork | Oh, I'm so over just having things to play with |
| 22:57:26 | file | well then send me some stuff to play with :p |
| 22:57:30 | AlHazWork | come within 50 feet of my place and I'll throw a dozen techie toys at you |
| 22:57:50 | file | like? |
| 22:58:02 | AlHazWork | Idunno . . . . old sparcstation, weird peripherals . . . |
| 22:58:12 | file | handheld stuff. |
| 22:58:19 | AlHazWork | you can hold it in your hand if you like |
| 22:58:22 | file | a TuxScreen? |
| 22:58:22 | AlHazWork | :) |
| 22:58:26 | AlHazWork | no, those are mine. |
| 22:58:31 | file | bah :p |
| 22:58:50 | file | me want me want! |
| 22:59:17 | AlHazWork | if i wanted to have a way to play games on my big TV i'd, er, just put the Q3A cd in my dreamcast . . . |
| 22:59:27 | file | uh huh |
| 22:59:37 | Keyser | holy crikees. i'm getting 150kbps on a mandrake ftp mirror. and there are 90 other users on it |
| 22:59:55 | AlHazWork | yeah, the other 90 people are prolly getting 2kbps 'cause of you :P |
| 23:00:16 | Keyser | i'm at 3% of the 1st CD, already |
| 23:00:40 | file | frowns |
| 23:00:50 | file | I require a new gadget to play with... |
| 23:00:56 | Keyser | get a car |
| 23:01:03 | file | nah |
| 23:01:29 | Keyser | a 1973 austin heally bug-eye sprite |
| 23:01:38 | file | let me guess - you want one? |
| 23:01:45 | Keyser | no. |
| 23:01:47 | Keyser | LOL |
| 23:01:54 | Keyser | but i figured for a 15 year old... |
| 23:01:59 | file | haha |
| 23:04:38 | Keyser | here's my car: http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/miles//vette1.jpg |
| 23:04:51 | file | nah |
| 23:05:42 | Keyser | here's my car last winter: http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/miles//clipped10small.jpg |
| 23:05:54 | file | doesn't go to look |
| 23:06:24 | Keyser | woo hoo! 10% of the 1st mandrake CD! |
| 23:06:32 | file | Keyser: good for you |
| 23:07:21 | file | I should setup the paging perl script for my new phone... |
| 23:07:35 | file | so annoying people can page me while I'm at school |
| 23:07:43 | file | like *randomly chooses* Keyser |
| 23:08:29 | Keyser | hmm. annoying? insults like that roll off me like water off a ducks back. for i already have 12% of the 1st mandrake CD! |
| 23:08:37 | Keyser | 13% |
| 23:08:44 | file | laughs |
| 23:09:58 | Keyser | 14% |
| 23:16:04 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: That library perl script works like a million bucks... |
| 23:22:22 | file | BZFlag: Hiya |
| 23:25:33 | file | poke poke? |
| 23:25:39 | AlHazWork | On the Twelth Day of Christmas / My network gave to me: Twelve kiddies scripting / Eleven users spamming / Ten trojans listening / Nine routers crashing / Eight worms still probing / Seven servers DOSing / Six switches freezing / Five flapping routes / Four calling NOCs / Three bad hubs / Two fiber cuts / And a virus on my brand new XP |
| 23:25:53 | CosmicPenguin | Don't poke the wrong values, file, you might crash the machine... :) |
| 23:26:01 | file | haha |
| 23:26:10 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:26:17 | prpplague | AlHazWork: like that one |
| 23:26:40 | file | AlHazWork: you must really be bored |
| 23:27:03 | AlHazWork | file: I was bored enough to reflow the text that someone pasted in several lines in another channel |
| 23:27:11 | file | uh huh |
| 23:27:14 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: what perl script? |
| 23:27:38 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Oh, the one I sent you to locate needed libs? |
| 23:28:09 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Yep.... I love it... I'm still modifiying it to work automagically in buildroot, when I get it done, I'll send it back to you.... |
| 23:28:36 | CosmicPenguin | Of course, it still misses the libnss_ stuff, but at least thats a known special case |
| 23:29:03 | andersee | Yeah, thats dl_opened... |
| 23:29:44 | CosmicPenguin | Who needs DNS anyway? |
| 23:29:48 | CosmicPenguin | :-) |
| 23:30:07 | andersee | BTW, I got some feedback from a guy with some very nice ideas. I'm planning on reworking the buildroot makefile to eliminate all those nasty shell fragments. |
| 23:30:19 | file | :) /* require dns; |
| 23:30:25 | CosmicPenguin | And replace them with what? |
| 23:30:39 | CosmicPenguin | Binaries? |
| 23:31:57 | CosmicPenguin | I do have one idea, though - I would like for the download(s) to happen all at once at the beginning so you don't have to stay attached to the network through the entire build |
| 23:32:16 | ctr | hey CosmicPenguin |
| 23:32:24 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: How goes the scripting? |
| 23:32:37 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: once i have got back to my house in bham (after new years) i should have ferite built for arm |
| 23:32:46 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: there seems to be a number of people interested :) |
| 23:32:50 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: schweet! |
| 23:33:28 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: hopefully (when i get round to it) it should be possible to profile a sciprt, and then when you next run it, ferite will adjust memory to be optimal :) |
| 23:33:57 | ctr | is making ferite highly scaleble |
| 23:34:08 | file | hrm? |
| 23:34:10 | file | what's ferit? |
| 23:34:12 | file | ferite. |
| 23:34:16 | file | whatever. |
| 23:34:27 | | ctr: excuse me? |
| 23:34:27 | ctr | ibot: search ferite |
| 23:34:33 | | ferite is a cool programming langauge developed by boris, it can be found at http://ferite.org |
| 23:34:33 | ctr | ibot: ferite? |
| 23:52:06 | prpplague | night all |
| 23:52:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't blow up your new ipaq..... |
