| 05:19:00 | finalfantasydog | hi bzflag! |
| 05:21:58 | BZFlag | hey. |
| 05:22:10 | BZFlag | 3 more orders going out tomorrow. |
| 05:23:23 | finalfantasydog | oh good |
| 05:23:33 | finalfantasydog | hmm |
| 05:23:40 | finalfantasydog | i really should find 99 bucks laying around the house quickly |
| 05:23:48 | finalfantasydog | because you seem to bee selling out quickly |
| 05:26:20 | BZFlag | heh, I've sold like 20 out of 1200. heading towards 2% now. no big deal. |
| 05:35:07 | finalfantasydog | when will linux run on them? |
| 05:35:08 | finalfantasydog | any timeframe yet? |
| 05:38:08 | BZFlag | nope. I just put my phone w/ jtag back together so I can hack on it though. |
| 05:38:43 | BZFlag | now I'm assembling an ipaq to send to crl. perhaps wednesday night I'll be hacking on the phone. |
| 05:39:04 | finalfantasydog | ahh good |
| 05:39:10 | finalfantasydog | run intimate |
| 05:39:32 | BZFlag | not on this ipaq. it's got a -c000- loader in flash ;-( |
| 05:40:41 | finalfantasydog | ack |
| 05:41:13 | BZFlag | I lent it out and that was the first thing the eng did with it. "upgraded" the bootloader. =( |
| 05:41:39 | BZFlag | I tried to figure out the jtag pins and decided I had better things to do with my time. |
| 05:42:03 | finalfantasydog | heh |
| 11:41:14 | | BZFlag was last seen on #tuxscreen 5 hours, 59 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: I tried to figure out the jtag pins and decided I had better things to do with my time. [Tue Jun 12 06:41:39 2001] |
| 11:41:14 | cworth | ibot: seen BZFlag? |
| 11:42:02 | cworth | well, my boss pitched in for a pair of 64MB SODIMMs so we should find out soon if they work. |
| 11:52:15 | mallum | cworth: cool - how much did they cost ? |
| 11:59:56 | cworth | mallum: not sure. Tim saw them at crucial for $120 so I think that's what he got. |
| 12:00:28 | cworth | kind of funny when your memory upgrade is 120% the price of your computer. :) |
| 12:00:40 | mallum | yeah |
| 12:01:14 | mallum | Im thinking 64megs + tuxscreen + micrdrive = nuice compile platform ( once linux works ) |
| 12:03:48 | mallum | cworth: it seems to me you work for a pretty cool company |
| 12:12:20 | cworth | yes indeed. doing research for a university is very nice. the tuxscreen stuff is all on our own time/money though. |
| 12:13:08 | mallum | cool |
| 12:13:14 | mallum | are you doing a phd ? |
| 12:13:48 | cworth | mallum: not for now anyway, finishing up my MS has been school for me for a while. |
| 12:14:19 | mallum | MS ? masters degree ? |
| 12:16:47 | cworth | mallum: yes, in Electrical Engineering. |
| 12:19:41 | mallum | cool |
| 12:39:14 | mallum | cworth: did you play much with alan cox's pdawm ? |
| 12:42:34 | cworth | mallum: only very, very briefly. |
| 13:33:40 | boodle | is away: compiling kernel |
| 13:49:20 | boodle | is back (gone 00:15:40) |
| 14:30:43 | nikos | cworth: You around? |
| 14:31:03 | cworth | nikos: whatsup? |
| 14:31:36 | nikos | cworth: Do you remember with older CRL bootloaders if space on the terminal was the only way to start the bootloader? Or was one of the buttons on the ipaq also useable for that? |
| 14:32:10 | nikos | I mean specifically 2.9.5 in this case. |
| 14:32:48 | cworth | nikos: AFAICR, the first one I used would boot linux automatically unless you pressed space. |
| 14:33:16 | nikos | That's what I thought, thanks. |
| 14:41:53 | finalfantasydog | did you dealte my account? |
| 14:41:55 | finalfantasydog | oh |
| 14:41:55 | finalfantasydog | ww |
| 16:54:28 | cworth | BZFlag: so I plugged in my new tuxscreen last night... |
| 16:54:50 | BZFlag | and? |
| 16:54:57 | cworth | BZFlag: most of the software works just swell. |
| 16:55:15 | BZFlag | tried ##314159265359** yet? |
| 16:55:27 | cworth | BZFlag: but I can't get the phone or the buttons to do anything, (no dialtone, message light stays on) |
| 16:55:50 | cworth | BZFlag: what's that? did I miss something on the wiki somewhere? |
| 16:56:03 | BZFlag | yeah? that is odd. try the factory reset in the above code menu. |
| 16:56:29 | BZFlag | It's on shaggy's shannon support page. Hopefully it will get copied into the wiki soon. |
| 16:56:52 | cworth | BZFlag: cool, I'll look at that. I took it apart and looked for loose connectors, but I couldn't find any obvious problems. |
| 16:57:52 | cworth | BZFlag: ah, is shaggy the source of the name Shannon on all the boards? |
| 17:00:10 | cworth | BZFlag: so where is shaggy shannon's support page? |
| 17:02:09 | BZFlag | links page near the bottom on the wiki... |
| 17:02:23 | nikos | cworth: TuxScreenLinks |
| 17:03:23 | cworth | BZFlag: I'm inclined to think that the magic code won't work as the buttons appear to be non-functional, (ie. when "Clean Page" says "lift the receive to clear this page" that doesn't work). Also, I've never heard anything from the speaker. |
| 17:03:39 | cworth | BZFlag: I'm wondering if I just have a dead UI board or something. |
| 17:04:49 | BZFlag | cworth: perhaps. I've not seen that on any other unit. |
| 17:05:14 | BZFlag | can you try opening the box and reseating the io board? |
| 17:05:29 | cworth | BZFlag: OK, I'll compare with the two that Brian has and we'll see where we are at. |
| 17:05:39 | cworth | BZFlag: OK, I'll try that tonight. |
| 17:06:31 | cworth | BZFlag: BTW, Brian ordered a pair of 64MB SODIMMs last night. |
| 17:07:03 | nikos | Cool. |
| 17:07:10 | nikos | He went for bust. ;) |
| 17:09:37 | cworth | nikos: then this morning I found a couple of old SODIMMs from a recent laptop upgrade, (not sure how big). Maybe I'll try one tonight. |
| 17:10:22 | nikos | great |
| 17:11:51 | cworth | oh, "Shaggy's Shannon page", not "Shaggy Shannon's page". :) |
| 17:14:18 | BZFlag | shannon was the code name for the phones AFAIK. |
| 17:15:04 | BZFlag | cworth: be sure to tell us if the 64M sodimms work. Others are thinking about ordering. he ordered from crucial right? they will take them back if they do not work. |
| 17:15:56 | cworth | BZFlag: nod. I sent him the URL that you posted in IRC yesterday. |
| 17:16:24 | cworth | cool. Looks like I should be able to get to a shell using only the keyboard, (won't need working phone buttons). |
| 17:26:15 | BZFlag | I have not tried that one yet, tell me if it works. |
| 17:26:30 | cworth | BZFlag: will do |
| 19:07:02 | | hello is any one around? |
| 19:07:02 | BZFlag | hello? |
| 19:07:50 | cworth | hello |
| 19:11:47 | nikos | eh, whatever... |
| 19:13:59 | BZFlag | hmmm |
| 19:14:06 | | 2 |
| 19:14:06 | BZFlag | ibot: 1+1? |
| 19:14:13 | BZFlag | ibot: botmail check |
| 19:21:01 | BZFlag | hmm |
| 19:21:38 | BZFlag | ponders |
| 19:21:43 | | 2 |
| 19:21:43 | BZFlag | ibot: 1+1? |
| 19:22:14 | BZFlag | hmmm |
| 19:45:31 | mallum | hello |
| 19:45:52 | nikos | Hey |
| 19:46:43 | BZFlag | hey |
| 19:47:52 | mallum | How is the tuxscreen going ? |
| 19:48:15 | mallum | btw , Im gonna order one as soon as I pay off my credit card |
| 19:48:45 | BZFlag | no software progress, though the wiki has been growing a bit. |
| 19:49:09 | BZFlag | more folks have gotten units, so progress is expected soon. |
| 19:49:18 | mallum | cool |
| 19:49:36 | mallum | cworth said he'd ordered some 64 meg ram units to test |
| 20:48:07 | mallum | cworthAWAY: are you really away ? |
| 20:49:00 | nikos | He usually doesn't lie. ;) |
| 20:51:29 | mallum | nikos: just checking ;) |
| 20:51:36 | nikos | Sure. |
| 20:51:59 | mallum | nikos: do you knwo where the sources for fstroke are ? |
| 20:52:16 | nikos | mallum: Well, there is stuff in CVS, not sure how up to date it is. |
| 20:52:32 | BZFlag | got fstroke on the tuxscreen already? ;-) |
| 20:52:55 | nikos | Doesn't look up to date at all. |
| 20:53:01 | nikos | TuxScreen has a touchscreen? |
| 20:53:02 | mallum | BZFlag: you have ? |
| 20:53:29 | nikos | mallum: http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/apps/xstroke/ |
| 20:53:31 | BZFlag | yes. 640x480 sharp dstn touch screen. |
| 20:53:51 | nikos | Wow, I didn't expect touchscreen. |
| 20:53:52 | mallum | nikos: hmm cant see fstroke in there - fstroke is the little app at the top of the ipaq screen with the keyboard and mouse buttons ? |
| 20:54:09 | nikos | mallum: name wiggling. That's the same thing. |
| 20:54:12 | mallum | nikos: thats xstroke is it the same thing - im confused |
| 20:54:27 | mallum | nikos: cool, I need to see how the drag code works |
| 20:54:33 | nikos | mallum: Check the Makefile. |
| 20:55:13 | nikos | mallum: Frankly I've lost track of what is now the correct name. |
| 20:56:29 | mallum | BZFlag: this keyboard Im working on should be good with the touch screen |
| 20:58:23 | BZFlag | mallum: it scales? I've noticed the qpe one does not. |
| 20:58:54 | nikos | I think that is where mallum is putting the most work right now. Scaling... |
| 21:00:20 | BZFlag | nice! |
| 21:02:15 | mallum | sorry, it dont scale yet ........... |
| 21:02:30 | mallum | I just fixing bugs at the mo |
| 21:02:34 | nikos | Of course, the tuxscreen does come with a physical keyboard I believe... |
| 21:02:53 | mallum | one of which is dragging |
| 21:02:55 | BZFlag | yes. infrared wireless. |
| 21:03:14 | | jamey was last seen on #handhelds.org 1 days, 7 hours, 27 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: Tangent: the skiffs need new debian roots. I suggested we install intimate on them [Mon Jun 11 14:35:21 2001] |
| 21:03:14 | BZFlag | ibot: seen jamey |
| 21:04:22 | mallum | window dragging ( not via the title bar ) works on my desktop but not the ipaq |
| 21:04:42 | mallum | Im trying to find the code for x/fstroke to see how that does it |
| 21:05:00 | mallum | o0 |
| 21:05:19 | mallum | says my cat |
| 21:07:20 | nikos | mallum: Look in xstroke.c in CVS I think. |
| 21:07:40 | mallum | nikos: yes I've looked - cant see anything |
| 21:08:13 | mallum | 's cat is attacking him |
| 21:09:28 | nikos | mallum: See the button down and motion handlers. |
| 21:13:19 | mallum | nikos: ok I think I fixed it ...... |
| 21:13:31 | mallum | nikos: I now have to beg cworth to compile and test |
| 21:14:13 | mallum | s/cworth/tangent/ - its getting late here....... |