IRC log for #sporewiki on 20170309

00:03.49XhoHm
00:03.54XhoVery uneventful day
00:05.02OluapPlayerThe wiki has been uneventful lately
00:06.01XhoHuh wouldn't have thought so what with Borealis and PLAGUE OF STEEL
00:06.40TechnobliteratorWell, an event has occurred :o
00:06.46Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_2#The_Weapons_Scientist_Scam check this out, yo
00:07.06XhoI would but reading at 10 past midnight is not on my agenda
00:07.30Technobliterator:V
00:08.44XhoI should really do some story or something
00:09.19XhoNearly forgot I did Hon-Datsu's story for a second
00:10.31XhoAnyway too tired to think about anything else, I'm going to sleep now
00:13.22MonetI saw a Tolkien discussion and I missed it
00:13.36OluapPlayerya jinxed it
00:16.23MonetI was busy with my own colonialism. Roma Invicta and all that.
00:17.01OluapPlayeruruk vult
00:17.04OluapPlayeror sauron vult
00:21.54MonetQuo Usque Pro Roma Ibis? qua patet orbis!
00:29.48MonetActually it was interesting, I was building a city where modern-day Corinth lies and as the city got quite prosperous, local Greks were throwing their at my city.
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00:30.09MonetHi
00:30.40DrodoEmpireHey\
00:56.49DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6RowxhXEAACo7p.jpg:large <.<
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01:27.43DrodoEmpireTek0516 https://twitter.com/MisterRoasty/status/837968892051980288
01:28.57DrodoEmpireTechnobliterator: Hey saw the new section go up-- is it "Lords of Crime" that was just added?
01:29.29Tek0516DrodoEmpire: ...I can feel my brain dying
01:29.47DrodoEmpireYour brain isn't dying
01:29.56DrodoEmpireIts ascending into the 12th dimension my dude
01:30.03DrodoEmpireYou're breaking the conditioning
01:30.20DrodoEmpireThe pedophile vampires from the nth dimension are losing their grip :>
01:30.33DrodoEmpireYous gettin WOKE
01:31.26DrodoEmpire(That Joe Rogan podcast was -fucking- nuts. xD)
02:14.27Tek0516DrodoEmpire: Isn't that the same guy who said stuff like that one school shooting being a staged false flag?
02:14.43DrodoEmpireAlex Jones?
02:14.50DrodoEmpireYeah sure he says all kinds of crazy shit
02:14.53DrodoEmpireI love him though
02:15.12DrodoEmpireThe worst part is that
02:15.23DrodoEmpire...sometimes, too often for chance, he's right?
02:15.53DrodoEmpireJust, about stuff in general, and about specific events too
02:16.22DrodoEmpireHe's a weird creature, but at least you -know- with him what's bullshit xD
02:42.09DrodoEmpireTek0516 https://twitter.com/Vernaculis/status/838280572573204480
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08:49.27ImpyDroidLiquid_Ink: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group) I might just have found the weirdest political party in history
08:49.43ImpyDroid>Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.
08:50.19Liquid_InkThis doesn't actually surprise me.
08:52.23ImpyDroidNo I mean every nation has its own fascist group
08:53.34Liquid_InkYes
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11:30.19Monethi
11:37.00GhelaeHi
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11:44.12MonetHachiman: I got thinking the other day about Jetstream Sam's Masamune blade: Would it still hold the properties of a genuine Masamune-crafted sword?
11:44.28HachimanHm
11:46.24MonetThe blade for instance, would need to be hollowed out and reinforced with extra compounds to provide for the high-frequency equipment and the reinforcement that allows the blade to not vibrate itself to pieces.
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11:51.21MonetThat sort of job might potentially require replacing the entire blade with a HF-resistant carbon nanotube counterpart.
11:53.24MonetAs I understand it, Japanese weapons - especially those made with local materials and not imported European steel - aren't as flexible as their European counterparts but I might have my knowledge the wrong way round..
11:55.06MonetOh wait his sword was a Murasama not a Masamune blade. Easy mistake?
11:58.07MonetReading up, it makes much more sense that the sword -isn't- a Masamune blade - those things are far too fucking valuable to be something a line of proficient but not celebrated swordsmen to have.
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13:53.38cyrabotHello
13:53.47Monethello
13:55.39OluapPlayer~eat cyrabot
13:55.39infobotThat's too disgusting.
13:55.53cyrabot~hug OluapPlayer
13:55.53infobotACTION sneaks up on OluapPlayer and suddenly hugs OluapPlayer tightly
13:56.47cyrabotHow are you all doing? Haven't been around for a while
13:58.28MonetDoing okay, just now I thought I'd try the Meyers-Briggs test.
14:01.35cyrabotI forget what my type is, I did the test in school
14:03.17MonetAnswered things honestly, seems I am an INTJ-type: Introverted, intuitive, thinking, Judging.
14:05.53OluapPlayerI'm good
14:08.24cyrabotI have pins and needles in my foot so getting off the bus will be a struggle and a half
14:09.05OluapPlayerHow'd that happen?
14:09.54cyrabotIt's a double decker and there's nobody else upstairs, so I was sitting on my foot
14:11.25cyrabot'twas comfortable at the time
14:14.03MonetIt'll pass
14:14.29MonetThe sting is just the torrent blood that is returning to an oxygen-starved foot.
14:21.18cyrabotew
14:21.27cyrabotBut yes, it's gone now
14:22.35cyrabotNow to put my plot to dissuade people from sitting next to me into action
14:23.12MonetDoes the bus get that busy?
14:24.04cyrabotOccasionally, yes. Though I have awful luck with people who sit next to me even though there are plenty of free seats available
14:24.42cyrabotBut now I place my scarf ever so slightly on the other seat, which has worked in the past
14:24.57cyrabotAnd isn't overtly rude
14:27.07MonetMight be a cultural thing. My experience on public transport is people will almost always look for and sit at an empty seat unless there aren't any.
14:29.58cyrabotTo be fair to these people, the bus is generally packed
14:30.25cyrabotBut so far so good today, doesn't seem too busy
14:44.12cyrabotBwahaha, it worked
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15:00.25NeonPandahi all
15:01.45NeonPandaMonet: in GTA I've got the art of spawning the modded Sandking XL down to a T, so I've basically got an extra 15-19k income every 45 minutes.
15:02.50MonetSounds slow but hey, money is money.
15:07.37NeonPandait's basically free income on top of everything else I do
15:07.56NeonPandacos it takes like 10 minutes to store 6 sandkings, which I can then sell off as I play
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15:15.57MonetFair enough
15:20.05NeonPandaoh also, I've now fully stocked my main garage with cars
15:20.59NeonPandahttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=878273389
15:23.39MonetSweet collection
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15:24.43WormydroidHi
15:24.53NeonPandamorning
15:25.09WormydroidAfternoon
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15:26.25JepardiHi
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16:13.34TreebeardHello
16:54.05NeonPandaQuestion: is wifflebatting something that happens in your respective countries? By way of explanation, wifflebatting is a wild crazy melee with foam sticks that lasts until everyone's foam sticks have broken
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17:20.58Tek0516Hey Charles
17:21.12Tek0516And Monet
17:21.20Monethi
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17:22.09WormydroidHi
17:24.52Charles_BotHey
17:26.01TreebeardHello
17:27.18WormydroidPoor Oluap frequently gets spammed.
17:29.34Tek0516Even the small stuff has me really excited about the Stellaris update. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-64-minor-features-and-tweaks.1004046/
17:31.39WormydroidBanks update..
17:31.51Wormydroid<PROTECTED>
17:32.04MonetThey name every large update after a prominent science fiction author
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17:33.09WormydroidHope there will be a Baxter update
17:33.10WormydroidHi
17:35.25Tek0516Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein. I think 1.4 Kennedy was named after the writer for it. Banks. They'll probably cover a few over the expansions.
17:35.31OluapPlayerHi
17:36.33WormydroidBanks makes sense since they just introduced megastructures I believe
17:37.09Tek0516Megastructures, hive minds, ascension, internal politics. So much stuff this patch.
17:37.27WormydroidNice
17:39.02Tek0516Government and ethics redesign. Space habitats. Rights and policies set by species. I am so hyped.
17:41.35NeonPandait's going to be interesting, that's for sure
17:41.47NeonPandabeen meaning to play more Stellaris, also Rimworld
17:47.34NeonPandaI had one thriving Rimworld colony until it got invaded by people armed with breaching charges, they broke in through the greenhouse
17:47.58NeonPandanever recovered from there, sadly
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18:38.35HachimanHi
18:44.27ImperiosHiya
18:47.28Monethi
18:51.48ImperiosOluapPlayer_: Wanna do Timewalking?
18:52.04OluapPlayer_Another day, I'm doing fiction atm
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19:21.45OluapPlayer_Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jGYuJTJ8kk deemun
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19:34.43dino82_hi
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19:38.19Wormy_hi
19:39.38TreebeardHello
19:41.45ImperiosOluapPlayer: Velen should be in this fight
19:41.50ImperiosHe SHOULD be in this fight
19:42.59Tek0516Wormy_: So I change something while keeping this one thing functionally similar, which somehow completely broke it. An hour later after almost giving up this rather hacky one works. >.<
19:44.21Tek0516Of basically taking the Grid acting wierd and putting it inside a second, different Grid. O.o
19:45.13OluapPlayer_Imperios: He's involved, there are sound clips of him doing banter with Kil'jaeden
19:47.17ImperiosThis reminds me
19:47.35ImperiosOluapPlayer_: I find it interesting how the Void/Old Gods and the Legion simultaneously hate and use each other
19:47.44ImperiosThe Old Gods has Xavius's satyrs, the Legion has voidwalkers
19:48.04OluapPlayer_The Old Gods seem more prone of using the Legion to their advantage than vice versa
19:48.59ImperiosThe Legion has voidwalkers however, which are Old Gods-related
19:49.06OluapPlayer_Do they?
19:49.11ImperiosYeah they do
19:49.19OluapPlayer_I don't recall seeing any
19:49.43ImperiosThey were pretty common back in BC
19:50.08OluapPlayer_Well, considering warlocks can command voidwalkers, perhaps it's just easy to take control over those
19:50.48OluapPlayer_But the Old Gods have larger goals. They tried to use the War of the Ancients to free themselves in the first Legion attack, and today N'zoth is clearly trying to use the Legion invasion to become active again
19:51.33Wormy_https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/59xv86/this_bird_we_sell_resembles_donald_trump/
19:58.00ImperiosIf you think about it the Old Gods are like the Tyro to Legion's Xhodocto
19:58.14OluapPlayer_Essentially
19:58.17ImperiosWeaker, but sneakier and intending to dominate rather than destroy the universe
19:59.08Wormy_Tek0516: code acts in mysterious ways
19:59.43Wormy_Better prey to it
19:59.48Wormy_*pray
20:00.01OluapPlayer_I miss the time when canon said the Old Gods were so powerful even Sargeras was afraid of them
20:00.13OluapPlayer_Them being reduced to servants who a Titan can just kick about was dum
20:10.07ImperiosThat was not canon, that was just Oldies boasting
20:13.23ImperiosThe new Void story is interesting but it would be interesting if they just had them as the original inhabitants of Azeroth
20:13.36ImperiosStill evil, but with a very understandable goal of reclaiming their home
20:13.53ImperiosAnd in tune with classical mythology
20:14.30MonetLike the Greek Titans?
20:15.46ImperiosOr the ymir for example
20:15.51ImperiosChthonic deities
20:15.59ImperiosOr Apophis
20:16.18OluapPlayer_Nah I'm pretty sure the depowering of the Old Gods was a retcon
20:17.00MonetImperios: I find it interesting how many societies tell of a race of gigantic malicious beings that walked the earth before the time of men.
20:17.51OluapPlayer_Now we have the lore of how Aman'Thul non-chalantly took Y'Shaarj out of Azeroth and killed him in one blow while Sargeras found a planet filled with Old Gods and destroyed all of them with one swing of his sword
20:18.31Wormy_Technobliterator: new Macka B song https://www.facebook.com/OfficialMackaB/videos/10154634499002585/
20:18.40ImperiosMonet: Have you seen the Beauty and the Beast remake?
20:18.42Technobliteratorwat
20:18.57MonetImperios: Not yet but I'd like to.
20:19.14ImperiosOur government slapped a 16+ rating on it for its apparently "gay propaganda"
20:19.37ImperiosNoone will care about ratings so I'll go with sis anyway, I'm interested
20:19.44Wormy_Techno:  Do you remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLqjLn0W5K0
20:19.55MonetLefouu wasn't exactly subtle with his affection for Gaston in the 90s film.
20:20.02Moneteither*
20:20.11Wormy_I post this to people who ask me ""what do you eat" when they find out I;m a vege
20:21.34MonetOr did Disney up the comradery between Lumiere and Cogsworth?
20:23.04ImperiosIt's Lefou
20:23.21MonetWatch the original.
20:24.02MonetThere's a scene where he's left by Gaston and he's reaching his arms out squeaking as if going "Wait, Gaston come back!"
20:25.24MonetNo one cares about ratings, just ask all the mums who took their kids to see Deadpool.
20:25.59Monet(although I read some took their kids because said childre nwere already massive Deadpool fans)
20:27.14Wormy_Why do the cutest things grow up to be man-eaters?  http://imgur.com/gallery/fZ87jAg
20:27.49OluapPlayer_muh heart
20:28.25MonetWormy_: Its so they don't get eaten
20:30.54Wormy_By mama?
20:31.18MonetHer at the very least.
20:32.12MonetThose stories of people wh oat first don't want kids that fall in love with their newborns, that's what happens i nthe wild
20:32.20MonetOxytocin be one hell of a drug.
20:36.07OluapPlayer_how can u eat something dis cute
20:36.51MonetExactly :)
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20:44.23Wormy_doesn't always work
20:44.47Wormy_once I saw lions toss a cheetah cub as a chew toy for the lion cubs
20:45.44OluapPlayer_ree
20:45.55OluapPlayer_Cheetahs are like just really big house cats
20:49.57Wormy_Imperios: http://imgur.com/gallery/o9iFa
20:51.05Wormy_"Can you lick the science"  http://imgur.com/gallery/JBkl4
20:51.34Wormy_it is true, certain situations geologists use the tongue
20:52.05OluapPlayer_>Linguistics
20:52.12OluapPlayer_gave me a giggle
20:52.57ImperiosPhonetists do a lot of tonguing
20:52.59ImperiosPhoneticians
20:53.02ImperiosPhonologists
20:53.07ImperiosPeople who study sound
20:53.39ImperiosWe had to learn all the fucking parts of the tongue and the throat in the first year
20:53.51Wormy_huh
20:54.05MonetWelcome to your first year on studying linguistics. But first, have some biology!
20:54.25Wormy_"As a research scientist in the brewing industry: yes go ahead and lick the science, it's tasty and refreshing."
20:54.28ImperiosWe also had some physics
20:54.34ImperiosRelated to soundwaves
20:56.40Monet<PROTECTED>
20:57.33Wormy_did you lick them
20:58.02MonetI had one lecture on colonialism and post-colonialism. One on semiotics, and one on feminism because of course we would.
20:58.35Wormy_My computer science masters had a mandatory ethics lecture
20:58.52MonetTrying to think of the most out-there topic I have done so far...
20:59.11Wormy_so it doesn't look like I can forcibly steal someone's brain and upload them into a simulated reality
20:59.19Wormy_as my thesis
20:59.20ImperiosWormy_: No but we were told about some... methods of gaining articulatory data
20:59.24ImperiosAnd god are they disgusting
20:59.32MonetIt's hard because "computer animation" is so broad!
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21:00.58MonetHi
21:01.04XhoHi
21:01.07Wormy_hi
21:01.16MonetWell, during my lectors on postmodernism I *did* get introduced to scientific racism.
21:01.18ImperiosOluapPlayer_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZqr3sHsF5k Holy fuck Kil'jaeden can fly
21:01.21ImperiosMonet: Huh
21:01.34ImperiosWhat did they tell ya?
21:01.45Wormy_On my geology degree we had a planetary scientist lecture us about Mars rovers
21:02.39Wormy_Couple of weeks ago I went to a guest lecture about dark patterns in game design - basically things in games that make you play them even when they are not enjoyable
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21:02.48OluapPlayer_Imperios: Holy shit the Avatar is HUGE
21:02.53ImperiosOH THAT FUCKING THING
21:03.01ImperiosI still laugh every time I see this
21:03.08OluapPlayer_That's like, Ragnaros sized
21:03.20ImperiosNow I imagine Cyr with that derpy face
21:05.19OluapPlayer_Kil'jaeden's animations look a bit weird to me
21:05.29MonetWhen studying the history of culture, one should not have a weak stomach
21:05.40Wormy_<PROTECTED>
21:05.51ImperiosMonet: https://socialistworker.co.uk/images1412/Image/2014/2428/raceandcolour_irish.jpg Oh and this one
21:06.24Monet<PROTECTED>
21:06.38Monet(or at least, that's what Europe thought)
21:07.24Imperios>tfw when you escaped colonisation by Western devils, only to be colonised by your fucking closest neighbour whom you considered barbarians for centuries
21:07.43Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:China_imperialism_cartoon.jpg
21:08.03ImperiosI think I fucking love these old posters
21:08.37MonetChina - "wat u doin stahp" 19th century edition.
21:09.10Wormy_Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Asiatiska_folk,_Nordisk_familjebok.jpg
21:09.49ImperiosMonet: http://redavantgarde.com/content/placard/789/789.jpg And have some propaganda from the other side
21:10.23ImperiosBlack guy - my tastes are very singular, I am afraid you won't understand
21:10.56Wormy_I remember seeing this picture from Ancient China depicting red haired western barbarians dragging away fair Chinese women
21:11.24Wormy_A warning about the Western devils
21:12.18Monet<PROTECTED>
21:12.48Wormy_<PROTECTED>
21:13.48Wormy_<PROTECTED>
21:14.07MonetThat's very red
21:15.53Wormy_Imperios: German propaganda http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/25/article-2567167-1BCDD54400000578-399_634x588.jpg
21:16.35ImperiosIa Ia Br'itnia t'ea c'rmptsh fhtagn!
21:17.24Imperioshttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/4f/52/70/4f5270342bc80918862767bc0a06fb3d.jpg Here's another one
21:17.55Wormy_America hungers, he sure did/does http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/25/article-2567167-1BCDD54C00000578-150_306x463.jpg
21:17.57Imperioshttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e5/e1/3a/e5e13a8f72ae087b9e81b7ab8e8d8a37.jpg Ohgod this
21:18.05ImperiosBulldog devouring the world
21:18.08ImperiosBritain is literally Fenrir
21:18.26MonetEver seen the map of countries Britain has invaded?
21:18.38Technobliteratorprobably ridiculously huge
21:18.47MonetAbout 95% of the planet.
21:19.05TechnobliteratorWell, my university's debate society is doing the Iraq War on Monday
21:19.15TechnobliteratorTime to school people defending illegal oil wars 8D
21:19.16ImperiosThis particular propaganda peace is not about Britain invading people
21:19.22Wormy_Imperios:  That reminds me http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/polandball/images/b/b8/UP3XIWN.png/revision/latest?cb=20160123061658
21:19.27ImperiosIt's about Britain *getting in France's way*
21:19.43MonetTechnobliterator: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02388/BRITAIN_2388153b.jpg
21:19.52Technobliteratoroh wow
21:20.07TechnobliteratorTo be fair, it's not that surprising
21:20.16ImperiosWormy_: England the slightly Scandinavian country
21:20.18MonetMost of this bear in mind was under Imperium Britannica.
21:20.25ImperiosYou mean Imperium Britannicum
21:20.25DrodoAwayyeaaaa boi
21:20.27DrodoAway<.<
21:20.33DrodoEmpire^
21:20.33ImperiosGRAMMATIK MACHT FREI
21:20.45Wormy_<PROTECTED>
21:20.46Imperios>did not invade Mongolia
21:21.10ImperiosToo scared of the Khan
21:21.31ImperiosSo basically you did not invade countries you couldn't reach by sea
21:21.43GhelaeMarshall Islands can be reached by sea.
21:21.56MonetSo can the Cote d'Ivorie
21:22.06ImperiosWait
21:22.13ImperiosWhen did Britain invade Kazakhstan?
21:22.13GhelaeThis is clearly a sign that Britain needs to do more invading.
21:22.30GhelaeCome on; we could conquer those tiny European countries in a matter of days.
21:22.35ImperiosOr did making Borat constitute invading?
21:22.36Wormy_She's still got it in her.
21:23.00MonetTechnobliterator: Although this map is somewhat vague on 'invaded'
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21:23.31GhelaeHello.
21:23.40Wormy_hi
21:23.51MonetIIRC Iceland experienced British troops in the form of expeditionary forces during WWII who were sent there primarily to deny it from Germany
21:24.07Imperios>we mention British imperialism
21:24.11Imperios>Liquid_Ink appears
21:24.56ImperiosI bet he'll urge the oppressed colonised people (like himself) to rebel against the rule of London and seize the means of production
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21:25.47Xho_Well that was super-technological-fuck-up-time
21:25.47Wormy_Australians were pretty hard nosed about pommies when there was a mass exodus in the 50's
21:25.49Liquid_InkI'm a white person, so I wouldn't describe myself as colonised.
21:26.58Liquid_InkAnd I feel we're sufficiently independent from Britain right now, as the monarchy has only the barest symbolic role, and I don't trust our current republican movement to try and use transitioning into a republic to further centralise power into a single person.
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21:27.15OluapPlayer_Technobliterator: http://i.imgur.com/c8I0tay.jpg
21:27.33Technobliteratorhahahaha
21:27.36Liquid_InkStill seizing those means of production though
21:27.59ImperiosLiquid_Ink: Well, I'd say the Irish were colonised
21:28.01Imperiosor the Chechens
21:28.07ImperiosChechens can be pretty white
21:28.18ImperiosOr Scots
21:28.26Liquid_InkYes, they're all colonised.
21:28.34MonetYeah but if he's white that means Ink was descended from the colonisers.
21:29.03Xho_http://www.livescience.com/images/i/000/037/093/original/kangaroo.jpg?interpolation=lanczos-none&downsize=*:1000 HOPPING COLONIAL DOG
21:29.08Wormy_I never knew Britain occupied Japan https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:British_Empire_Anachronous_4.PNG
21:29.32ImperiosDid not occupy but influence very strongly
21:29.37ImperiosLiquid_Ink: Yeah and these were white
21:30.10Liquid_InkBut the native population of Australia is not. Monet summed it up; I'm descended from colonisers.
21:30.28MonetWormy_: Part of what happened to Japan in the fifties.
21:30.40Wormy_Imperios:  UK has sorta colonised parts of Spain
21:30.40ImperiosFair point
21:30.50ImperiosGIBRALTAR
21:31.05ImperiosAnd Gascony, you had Gascony, we just covered that a week ago
21:31.07Wormy_Well there are whole seaside towns populated by English now
21:31.07MonetBritain and America held a strong military and political presence in Japan in the years following the Second World War.
21:31.27Wormy_And UK chains
21:31.31ImperiosFor some reason because your language is the main one we have to learn your history on English courses in Uni
21:31.41Xho_Wait how did we get here in the first place
21:31.52ImperiosWHY SO MANY FUCKING DYNASTIES
21:32.03ImperiosTUDORS PLANTASOMETHINGS WINDSOMETHINGS
21:32.11Wormy_Game of Thrones
21:32.12ImperiosWHY CAN'T YOU JUST HAVE TWO DYNASTIES LIKE WE DO
21:32.23Wormy_They're all related though
21:32.41MonetImperios: European inbreeding
21:33.04Wormy_Also, the German Keisers and Russian Tsars were related
21:33.27ImperiosI think all royals were closely interrelated by the 20th century
21:33.46Wormy_Its like WW1 was a chess game between them
21:33.50ImperiosThe Romanov dynasty was thoroughly Germanised from like the 18th century
21:34.11Imperios...Holy shit so then both the Russians and the Brits were ruled by Germans during WW1
21:34.29ImperiosIt wasn't the Jews behind it all, it was actually GERMANS
21:34.32ImperiosTHE GERMANS RULE THE WORLD
21:34.43Liquid_InkI thought the Romanovs were French?
21:34.51ImperiosNo, German
21:34.55Wormy_And now Germans rule Europe again
21:35.06ImperiosWell started off as Russian but became German from Catherine
21:35.11Liquid_InkWhat astounds me is that even the Ottomans were related to the Habsburgs
21:35.28MonetThe Hapsburgs liked to marry anything that had a pulse.
21:35.43Tek0516I think the Kaiser and Tzar were cousins even
21:35.49Monet<PROTECTED>
21:36.12ImperiosThe Romanovs descended from these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Holstein-Gottorp
21:36.14ImperiosWell
21:36.21MonetI remember learning that George I could only speak German.
21:36.30Wormy_The royal families of Europe must be deeply intertwined, since Queen Elizibeth can trace her bloodline to even before the Tudors, and we regard her as a German
21:36.37ImperiosThey were originally a native dynasty but interbred with Germans so much that the Russian blood disappeared completely at one point
21:37.10MonetWormy_: The thing that fascinates me is how transnational the European aristocracy was.
21:38.00MonetIt didn't really matter as much to an aristocrat as it did (or does) a common citizen that someone's spouse, or the person themselves, was a foreigner.
21:38.12Tek0516And I think most of the new countries of the late 1800s had their monarchies directly related to someonr
21:38.26Tek0516*some Great Power's family
21:38.45Wormy_Tek0516:  King George V was a cousin with them too
21:38.48Imperioshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Tsar_Nicholas_II_%26_King_George_V.JPG Just look at them
21:38.53ImperiosThey are like twins
21:38.58MonetEveryone's saying "Lizzie's German"        Her husband is Dutch/German/Greek.
21:39.00ImperiosExcept your one wasn't a fucking idiot as far as I am aware
21:39.09ImperiosWhat was George V like?
21:39.27MonetImperios: Watch The King's Speech.
21:39.57Xho_Basically Colin Firth
21:40.29MonetHe was a somewhat introverted man, partly due to his stutter.
21:40.38Tek0516"The royal descendants of Queen Victoria (Queen of the United Kingdom) and of Christian IX (King of Denmark) currently occupy the thrones of Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, Norway, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom. At the outbreak of the First World War their grandchildren occupied the thrones
21:40.39Tek0516of Denmark, Greece, Norway, Germany, Romania, Russia, Spain and the United Kingdom."
21:41.25MonetThis is why they called Victoria the Grandmother of Europe.
21:41.29ImperiosThis actually caused a dangerous genetic disease to be transmitted to the royal household, affecting Nicholas II's son
21:41.39ImperiosI bet this was the British plot all along
21:42.02Wormy_Imperios:  I think him and King Edward VII were seen as more fashionable than Victoria
21:42.05Xhoenter Rasputin, that sly devil
21:42.37ImperiosXho: I actually found an interesting explanation for his healing powers
21:42.48Tek0516So all of those relations there, and even the two of them were cousind.
21:43.11ImperiosBack in the early 20th century, aspirin was very common, and used in every possible situation, and by everyone, including the Romanovs
21:43.20ImperiosAspirin causes blood flow to increase
21:43.26Imperios>increased blood flow
21:43.30Imperios>blood can't clot
21:43.40ImperiosYou get the picture
21:43.45MonetI made a sample of aspirin once.
21:43.56MonetIt's a blood thinner iirc.
21:44.01ImperiosExactly
21:44.18ImperiosAnd Rasputin suggested not to use it out of religious reasons, which ended up saving the boy
21:44.29Wormy_Intriguing
21:45.48XhoSo basically by not using aspirin that healed him
21:45.50XhoMakes sense I guess
21:45.54OluapPlayer_nah he was an evil wizard with an army of insects
21:45.56OluapPlayer_didnt u c the movie
21:46.25MonetTek0516: Once you understand how intertwined the European aristocracy is, saying the Queen is "a dirty foreigner" for having German ancestry (despite her and her father being born in the UK) is a pretty irrational argument.
21:46.29XhoI saw Hellboy, Rasputin is the antagonist in that
21:46.35XhoAlthough no mention of insects
21:46.45Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VII#/media/File:Royal_family_group_1896.jpg
21:47.02ImperiosI wonder how come Rasputin's womanising is never used as a character trait in adaptations
21:47.05MonetXho: I recall him falling and saying "I wish I was still dead"
21:47.06OluapPlayer_I mean the animated one
21:47.26Tek0516"Of the remaining kingdoms of Europe today, only Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands descends neither from Queen Victoria nor Christian IX."
21:47.30XhoMonet: That was some other character I think
21:47.35XhoRasputin is the bald guy
21:47.36OluapPlayer_There's an animated movie with Rasputin as the main villain which everyone thinks is made by Disney when it actually isn't
21:47.38Xhoyeh bald
21:47.41MonetImperios: Well he was kind of obsessed with Anastasia.
21:47.43ImperiosAnastasia
21:47.48OluapPlayer_Yes that one
21:48.09XhoRings a bell
21:48.19MonetXho: It's been ages since I've seen Helloby
21:48.34Xho>Christopher Lloyd voices Rasputin                 GREAT SCOTT
21:48.47Imperioshttps://itsaschmahlworld.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/anastasia-disneyscreencaps-com-1770.jpg Waaait
21:48.47MonetRasputin in that film was an interesting design decision
21:49.06ImperiosWhere's she standing
21:50.06MonetNoideavigrad
21:50.23ImperiosI remember how cool it was to actually see your home city in a cartoon or a movie
21:50.34ImperiosThough they messed up with the architecture
21:50.58MonetI think it's meant to be St. Petersberg but I'm guessing that basilica is in the wrong city.
21:51.08Wormy_I'm getting really into Saxon and Viking times.  The Viking kings were badarse, Bjorn Ironside conquered a Italian city by pretending to die after being Christianised so he could be buried, but he jumped out the coffin and took the princess as hostage so he could force the city to open its walls for the Viking army
21:51.21ImperiosNo, no, we have ONE church like this
21:51.28ImperiosThe Saviour on Blood
21:51.35MonetCheerful name
21:51.37ImperiosBut it's https://kudago.com/media/images/news/0c/f0/0cf018fdc0cec6f88430cd0029eebcb9.jpg nexto a river
21:51.44ImperiosMonet: Built on Alexander II's death
21:51.48ImperiosLiterally built on blood
21:51.51Imperios*place of death
21:52.00Wormy_The Vikings series adapted it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fm7Unf9r8
21:52.18ImperiosIt's apparently the most popular tourist spot with foreigners
21:52.25ImperiosWhich is odd
21:53.50MonetI will give some Kudos to the filmmakers for making a Soviet-set film and practically not mentioning Commies
21:54.17MonetI think the only mention was the government arbitrarily changing passport colours from blue to red.
21:55.31Wormy_DrodoEmpire:  Was this a real weapon, you might know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOPO5Vll2WI
21:56.19Imperioshttp://makemepassport.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/russia_new.png They were actually green huh
21:56.41Imperioshttp://pics.livejournal.com/szhaman/pic/0004ka41 Or white
21:57.01ImperiosMonet: Well it's a children's cartoon
21:57.42MonetImperios: Gotta indoctrinate them to the evils of Communism at a young age
21:58.13ImperiosYeah but it wasn't the Commies who ousted the Tsar
21:58.39ImperiosThey were just the ones to win in the aftermath
21:59.24MonetThe passport thing was what was it, 10 years after the revolution?
22:00.22MonetThe male heroes were trying to smuggle Anastasia out of the country and overheard that -at the very last minute- their forged travel documents were out of date.
22:01.10MonetSo it would have been 1926.
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22:02.42Xho_I really do not like this internet tonight
22:02.59Wormy_tinternet
22:03.04DrodoEmpireWormy: Never seen something like that before
22:03.18DrodoEmpireBut besides its being -very- niche its within the realm of plausibility
22:03.41Xho_Trying to access teh wiki sends my PC into a real fluster
22:03.51Xho_the*
22:04.13Xho_Freezes Firefox entirely
22:04.27Imperioshttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3049573/donald-trump-sends-b-52-nuclear-bombers-to-south-korea-after-north-fires-missiles-at-japan-and-us-warns-of-overwhelming-response/ Technobliterator: Oooh
22:04.30OluapPlayer_Imperios: Wowhead made a post about the monk mount
22:04.33OluapPlayer_It talks
22:04.40TechnobliteratorYup
22:04.42TechnobliteratorScary stuff
22:04.44OluapPlayer_You get a talking tiger
22:04.47Wormy_Drodo:  I like the way the Vikings series depicted the siege of Paris. Mind if I potentially spoil if you ever watch it?
22:04.54DrodoEmpireSure go ahead
22:04.56TechnobliteratorI'm worried about what'll happen to South Korea
22:05.13ImperiosBet the orange fuck does not care
22:05.39ImperiosWho in America cares what happens to the outside world after all
22:05.47Technobliterator:|
22:06.00TechnobliteratorImp, I doubt that he cares, but that's no reason to smear a population of a few hundred million people
22:06.11Wormy_First attempt:  The Vikings never actually the breached the walls, but they fought very hard.  The Franks used boiling oil and set fire to the Viking siege engines.  And their battering ram failed.
22:06.24Liquid_InkWell, if it comes to war I think the North will go down very quickly. And China's support for the North has considerably waned.
22:06.36Xho_Fuck it, restarting
22:06.46TechnobliteratorNot to say that there aren't ignorant/heartless people, but there are plenty of people who do care
22:07.08ImperiosOf course, just kidding
22:07.11ImperiosSorry of that was offensive
22:07.20Wormy_Second attempt:  The French ballista and crossbrow archers descimate Vikings who mnage to break in (after some shield maidens managed to cause confusion and the gates to open)
22:07.23Technobliteratorit's cool, it just doesn't look immediately obvious on the internet
22:07.37Technobliteratorbut yeah, I doubt he cares or really considered the complexities of the situation at all
22:07.39DrodoEmpireWormy_: Sounds reasonably authentic actually
22:07.49Technobliteratorhe just thinks "dur, these leaders so weak on North Korea, I strong, I nuke them"
22:07.59Liquid_InkMy main concern is for the civilians of North Korea, since they live in such awful conditions, the South can place them into slavery conditions and the Northerners would still think it's an improvement.
22:08.19ImperiosTechnobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNs_nn_qBIQ Fucking Poles
22:08.23Wormy_Third attempt:  Vikings get in because Ragnar tricks Charles the Bold by pretending to die after getting a christening.  He takes the princess hostage and lets the Vikings in en-masse
22:08.28MonetWel lsome fortune in that much of NK is sparsely populated.
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22:08.37TechnobliteratorWell, if NK launches missiles at Seoul, that will not be fun
22:08.46OluapPlayer_Imperios: http://www.wowhead.com/news=260868/new-class-champions-and-followers-in-patch-7-2 also this
22:08.47Technobliteratorand yeah, Imp, I saw that too
22:08.49Technobliteratorit was disgusting
22:08.50OluapPlayer_You're getting a panda girl
22:08.52Wormy_I looked this up and discovered its based on a story of his son, Bjorn Ironside, but happened in Italy
22:09.07DrodoEmpireHuh cool
22:09.39Wormy_But long story short it really shoed that castles are really damn hard to invade and lay siege to
22:09.47OluapPlayer_>Shaman: Magtha Grimtotem
22:09.48OluapPlayer_NANI
22:10.04DrodoEmpireWormy_ Cool cool
22:10.05Wormy_Disease also occurred on both sides because of the all the piling dead
22:10.12Imperios<3
22:10.15DrodoEmpireYeha it can't be understated how hard they were to crack
22:10.16DrodoEmpireWell
22:10.21DrodoEmpireIn this case city walls bit yeah <.<
22:10.23DrodoEmpire*but
22:11.48ImperiosTechnobliterator: Okay, a woman may be weaker on average, maybe there aren't that many genius-level women, but how does that affect your average person
22:12.03ImperiosPeople who do the same job receive the same payment, that is how it is supposed to be
22:12.08TechnobliteratorYup
22:12.11OluapPlayer_I'll try and talk later I guess
22:12.18DrodoEmpireYeah it was some dumb old pole >.<
22:12.21Wormy_Drodo:  Vikings has scenes like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz0pj4fIvZc
22:12.28TechnobliteratorAlso, women tend to graduate with higher grades
22:13.21DrodoEmpireBasically making the polar opposite argument to regressive feminists
22:13.29Monet<PROTECTED>
22:14.13ImperiosYeah they do
22:14.16DrodoEmpireWormy_: That's pretty cool
22:14.53MonetThe main argument I see is women often find themselves working less hours than men, but hourly pay is usually irrespective of gender.
22:14.56XhoOluapPlayer_: literally 2 much politics
22:15.14DrodoEmpireMonet: That and chosen profession
22:15.30MonetThat too
22:15.30DrodoEmpireAnd its all on average, as well, so beware
22:15.36DrodoEmpireAnd
22:15.36DrodoEmpireYes'
22:15.40DrodoEmpire2 much politics
22:17.45ImperiosThe perfidy of statistics
22:21.14XhoImperios: How do you apply textures to your images
22:21.20ImperiosLike?
22:21.33Xhothe magic sigils on the Source page
22:21.36ImperiosOh
22:21.42ImperiosThe stony one?
22:21.54ImperiosGIMP layer modes, fiddle with them
22:22.06Xhooh dur
22:22.12XhoI should have known that
22:24.31Imperioshttps://2ch.hk/po/src/21284171/14890914697750.webm THE PINNACLE OF KOREAN MUSIC
22:25.19Wormy_Imperios:  Lol The Sun is like our worst paper, though it probably competes with Express
22:25.26DrodoEmpireImperios: lul
22:25.41ImperiosWait did I likn the sun?
22:25.43Imperioslink
22:25.52MonetYou did
22:25.52ImperiosOh the North Korea thing
22:26.20MonetBut NK it seems did fire missiles into the sea around Japan.
22:30.44Wormy_Yes, but its still sensationalist title and text
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22:31.37ImpyDroidSpeaking of dubious news
22:31.48ImpyDroidhttp://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-the-west-not-ready-democratic-russia-16056 I find this article very interested
22:35.16DrodoEmpire"The necromancer Oliver Cromwell spells doom for England in @DavidJohnButler's Dei Britannici."
22:35.25DrodoEmpireI don't even know what Baen Books are publishing anymore <.<
22:36.11ImpyDroid*intriguing
22:36.24ImpyDroidDrodoEmpire: Waait is that a game
22:36.34DrodoEmpireNope
22:36.35DrodoEmpireShort story
22:36.47DrodoEmpirehttp://www.baen.com/deibritannici - you can read it here
22:36.58ImpyDroidWouldn't Cromwell execute one for necromancy
22:38.14DrodoEmpireHm?
22:42.27HachimanXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ASteel_of_the_Plagued_Land#Chapter_4:_Road_to_the_Black_Westlands nu chapta
22:42.41XhoToo tired to read right ow
22:42.43Xhonow
22:42.45Xhosomething
22:42.46Xhome
22:42.47Xhonow
22:42.49Xhotired
22:50.34Wormy_I have this book, its old now.  When kids books were cool (with blood and fighting) http://www.urbancreep.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/AAM-Lambton-Worm.jpg
22:51.01DrodoEmpireYeah hur
22:51.28DrodoEmpireI used to -love- those history books you could get at school libraries which were full of info and handdrawn pictures
22:51.38DrodoEmpireLooking back on them, they were pretty gruesome >.<
22:52.36DrodoEmpireAll the battles didn't fail to have dead guys with big gaping wounds cut into them, moats flowing red with blood, etc.
22:52.40DrodoEmpireDifferent time I guess
23:00.42ImpyDroidMonet: New details about Thor 3's story were revealed, apparently the movie will also adapt FUCKING PLANET HULK
23:00.55ImpyDroidHULK WILL RULE A FUCKING PLANET
23:01.12MonetHULK STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!
23:02.31ImpyDroidI am confused about Hulk's intelligence
23:02.53MonetIt varies.
23:03.05ImpyDroidI've always thought him to be retarded or childlike or something
23:03.26ImpyDroidHere in these adaptations he is more like a dim but nevertheless capable normal person
23:03.57MonetOne instance of Wolverine vs Hulk had him respond to Logan saying "Hulk...behind [you]" with "Hulk not a behind!"
23:05.03MonetOther times yeah he's dumb but not incompetent.
23:05.17ImpyDroidI was a Hulk fanboy as a kid I remember all this hur
23:05.31MonetTHen you have Grey Hulk
23:05.52MonetWhose like...a genius compared to regular Hulk.
23:06.09TechnobliteratorPst, if you guys missed it, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_2#The_Weapons_Scientist_Scam :o
23:06.27ImpyDroidI also remember him too hur
23:06.33ImpyDroidHe was fucking hilarious
23:06.50ImpyDroidHulk except he is a dick
23:09.08ImpyDroidHmmm
23:09.15ImpyDroidImagine a Grey She-Hulk
23:09.59ImpyDroidLike a huge sexy Bonnie Parker
23:10.48MonetIsn't She-Hulk already in full control of her intelligence?
23:10.57MonetShe's a lawyer even in Hulk for miirc.
23:12.03ImpyDroidAs in a bitchy criminal form
23:13.01MonetOh right
23:37.52Wormy_HULK SMASH
23:38.10Wormy_How come's Hulk's shorts don't rip off?
23:38.31MonetBecause even the Hulk requires decency.
23:38.39DrodoEmpire^
23:38.59MonetEven the Hulk can be polite.

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