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18:27.10Tek0516So my building is being evacuated, but not the connecting one. At least I won't freeze out there. >.>
18:27.26OluapPlayer"it's time to stop"
18:27.39Xhothe body was more than ready that day
18:34.52dino82_test
18:35.13Xhopassed
18:37.27TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, I lol'd
18:37.31Technobliteratorbest image
18:38.49dino82_Thanks!
18:38.56dino82_Never know wit the IRC  I guess
18:39.37XhoI should really do some fiction
18:39.38XhoBut what
18:40.03TechnobliteratorI think the Nintendo Switch could be the first big Nintendo console I ever own
18:40.51XhoSomeone tell me to work on one of the Tuuros things
18:41.08OluapPlayerYou're gonna buy the Switch?
18:46.07XhoAlso good news
18:46.11XhoMy uni place has been confirmed
18:46.37MonetHooray
18:47.32NeonPandaXho: gj, now go work on one of the Tuuros things
18:47.41Xhok thnx
18:47.47XhoShould have elaborated really
18:47.52XhoOne of the Tuuros fictions
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18:48.54XhoHi
18:49.04XhoDrom: gimme a Tuuros page to work on
18:49.48dromOh hi
18:49.51drom:thinking:
18:51.03dromI see two red links, wait three, red links in Vranntan Order's page
18:51.40XhoHm
18:52.51XhoMight do the Enaphrosians I guess
18:52.55XhoI had some idea for them a second ago
18:53.20dromNammud Xar, Enaphrosian Hegemony and Sumikian Commerce Nexus, to iterate them.
18:57.11dromAnyway. I've been thinking on something, Xho.
18:57.56dromConsidering that the Order and the Technocracy might have had a long history. I guess they would have a mutual language that they primarily use for cussing at each other.
18:58.13dromLike "Tokk Common" or something
18:59.42dromAlso, have a woman hugging a recused fox https://i.redd.it/gqhnuum5za9y.jpg
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18:59.53XhoVranntan - tokk common                                 for the future slaves
19:00.00Xhoalso foox
19:00.02XhoHi
19:00.09NeonPandanot as adorable as Pudding
19:01.52TechnobliteratorI'm probably going to buy the Switch, yeah
19:02.07TechnobliteratorIt's a really neat concept, and some of the games for it look nice
19:02.36OluapPlayerI don't know
19:03.00OluapPlayerThe only launch title worth of any notice is Zelda
19:03.15OluapPlayerAnd they're implementing paid subscription to online when it was free until now
19:04.24dromhttp://www.newjournal.us/british-man-changes-name-gets-new-passport-avoid-paying-airline-admin-fee/
19:05.06dromTl;dr student changes his name because it is cheaper than fixing a typo on the ticket for his return flight
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19:08.20dino82_hi
19:08.24CyrannianHello
19:08.27dromXho: Kurinnuri - tokk common                                      for the future subordinates
19:08.37XhoVranntan - FIGHTING WORDS
19:08.55dromKurinnuri - ur mum was a gecko
19:08.58TechnobliteratorPaid online subscription bothers me, but sadly, all the console companies do that
19:09.00Technobliteratorhihi cyrannian
19:09.05dromHey Cyrannian
19:09.41Xhoack
19:10.18CyrannianHai
19:11.20dromAs how I imagine it, Xho. I guess Vranntans & Kurinnurii could be condensed down to Lizards vs Canids. Or English vs French and Danes vs Swedes
19:11.44dromOr Romans vs Scots
19:13.54OluapPlayer~eat Cyrannian
19:13.55infobotACTION eats Cyrannian and falls over dead
19:13.55XhoWAT R YE DOIN IN MAH SWAMP
19:15.42Cyrannian~swamp OluapPlayer
19:15.57CyrannianDon't know why I thought that might work
19:24.48dromXho Monet: http://imgur.com/gallery/HFVAe
19:26.00MonetThis was like the mildest snow we've had in years
19:29.02dromHm. We got a plenty of snow
19:31.13Xhodrom: Accurate
19:48.43DrodoEmpiretest
20:07.15dromhttp://i.imgur.com/HN1dU32.png This really puts a perspective to things
20:51.09DrodoEmpireYeah though proportion should also be accounted for
20:52.16DrodoEmpire40 million people during the 1200s, for example, was a *much* larger portion of the total world population than it is today-- that doesn't change the fact that 20 million individuals perished, though
20:52.33DrodoEmpire*40 million even
20:54.59MonetThis gives absolute rather than proportional figures.
20:57.40MonetAlso weren't most (if not most then a *lot* of) native Americans killed by diseases from Europe?
20:58.02NeonPandabbl, saturday markets breakfast is calling me
21:01.33XhoOkay so my fiction plan didn't go to plan
21:03.08MonetWhat went wrong
21:05.34DrodoEmpireMonet: Yeah the vast majority of native american deaths were due to diseases, such as Smallpox, malaria, yellow fever, etc.
21:06.08DrodoEmpireOr starved because they were outcompeted for land by Europeans or the local ecosystem was destroyed by invasive species
21:09.37DrodoEmpireInvasive species, particularly malaria-bearing mosquitoes, were probably one of the biggest killers in the New World actually
21:10.09DrodoEmpireAnd they were indiscriminate as to who they killed, native or European, with the exception of African slaves who often had genetic immunity
21:10.47DrodoEmpireMalaria used to be a huge issue in the swampier, more humid parts of *England* until the 20s
21:11.00MonetThis is what bugs me about the term "atrocity" now.
21:11.12DrodoEmpireBefore it finally retreated back to its place of origin
21:11.19DrodoEmpireWhat does? :p
21:12.18MonetIn the case of the Native American genocide, the best way to avoid it was for Europeans to not settle in America.
21:12.33MonetQuarantine the continent perhaps.
21:13.00DrodoEmpire...Except that there is no way the Europeans were just going to not settle in the Americas
21:13.31DrodoEmpireAnd quarantining and entire continent is impossible, especially impossible given the technology and scientific/medical know-how of the time
21:13.41DrodoEmpireNobody even knew what Malaria *was* until the 19th century
21:13.50DrodoEmpireThey just thought it was bad air
21:14.09DrodoEmpire*an entire continent
21:14.18DrodoEmpireSo I guess I have to ask-- what is your point?
21:17.45MonetWhat bugs me is when waves of disease appear to be counted as human-sourced atrocities.
21:18.17XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15965583_1432741580083048_3983141098252709285_n.jpg?oh=aeca4240d72334f8c48cc82c91c69ad1&oe=58DD0BA9
21:18.29MonetI'm not a fan of "humans are a scum species" and numbers like these are often used as evidence for that mindset being the truth.
21:18.30dino82_lol
21:18.41OluapPlayerYummy armor
21:18.50Xhohao bout indigestion armor
21:19.06Xhocus dat gon stop ur stomach like mad boi
21:19.07DrodoEmpireMonet: Right, and a lot of these outbreaks weren't intentional and affected Europeans as well
21:19.27DrodoEmpireBut something tells me that "atrocity" is just this writer being inaccurate
21:19.38DrodoEmpireTragedy would be a better word
21:19.55Xho"Don't worry pals. Republicans do have a plan to replace it. They're going to issue everybody a bible with marked verses telling them that illness is a punishment for sin."      OOOOOOOOH SHIT
21:20.21MonetDrodoEMpire: ANd I'd say 'most severe' instead of 'worst'
21:20.50Monet"worst atrocities" is a *highly* emotionally charged phrase.
21:25.32MonetThe Black Death wiped out either 1/3 or 2/3 of the European population. 75-200 million people.
21:25.48MonetOver eight years.
21:26.25Xhobest kd
21:27.12MonetIf I were to guess, it might have been left out because it would dwarf the death toll of WWII.
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21:28.15MonetHi
21:28.38XhoHm what about the Spanish Flu during the 1910s
21:28.58XhoJi
21:29.00XhoFuck
21:29.01XhoHi
21:29.16Monetabout maybe 50-100 million.
21:31.28XhoMy great-grandmother was one of those, random fact
21:31.34XhoBut yeah nasty shit
21:33.46MonetIndeed
21:33.54Xho>tfw your Bernie-sceptic friend is now a Bernie supporter
21:34.00XhoTrump has done some bad things already
21:34.06Xhoor skeptic
21:34.08XhoI can't tell
21:34.58MonetI might sound dismissive but this chart look like it's intending BSNS - Big Scary Number Shock
21:35.50XhoPretty much
21:36.00XhoWithout relative global populations it looks bad
21:36.23XhoBut it would probably look like it would be rising the other way if that was taken into account
21:37.31MonetThe fall of Rome caused 8 million deaths                        and the collapse of society west of the Rhine
21:37.41Monet'only' 8 million
21:39.32XhoAnywhere between a global population of 200 - 300 milion in 450 AD as well
21:41.02MonetSo Rome's fall would mean that 2-4% of the global population died during the empire's collapse.
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21:41.16Xho[well done]
21:41.17XhoHi
21:41.24The_RandomnessHello
21:42.04MonetHi
21:43.51MonetSo 4% from an empire that claimed 21% of the world population as its inhabitants
21:45.17MonetSo if that 8 million is just the empire itself we're talking a death toll of a little under 20% of the European population,
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21:46.14NeonPandahi all
21:46.21The_RandomnessHello
21:46.38GhelaeHello.
21:49.51MonetHello
22:03.57XhoDrodoEmpire: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15965845_1766590323661924_1602566980698528846_n.jpg?oh=1b1123aed88a6275ca0a3ffa90e9c9f3&oe=58DD0C32
22:04.11DrodoEmpireayy lmao
22:04.22The_Randomnesslol
22:06.18NeonPandaI'm reminded of the comic of Tony Stark explaining the alt-right to Cap
22:10.38Xho#basicallyhydra
22:21.29NeonPandaI believe Cap's response was something along the lines of "I literally went to war with these guys"
22:25.06ImperiosXho: /hydra/
22:25.16ImperiosHail Kek! Immortal Kek!
22:25.22Xhono oats
22:25.40MonetHAIL HYDRA \o/
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22:29.02Wormy_hi
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22:31.56Wormy_hi
22:31.58The_RandomnessHello
22:32.39ImperiosNeonPanda: Wasn't there also that scene in some Captain America comic where Red Skull spouted PEGIDA rhetoric to Germans?
22:32.41Liquid_InkHello
22:33.12ImperiosHi Ink
22:33.20Liquid_InkHow is everyone?
22:38.05Wormy_busy
22:41.46ImperiosLiquid_Ink: https://pp.vk.me/c626622/v626622375/3fd4c/KeYZ2jIMNLQ.jpg
22:42.05Liquid_InkLol
22:44.49NeonPandaslowly but surely I improve in the ancient art of giant robot combat
22:55.06Monet"he poet Ovid, who wrote during the reign of Augustus, records the best-known myth that explains the association of the cypress with grief. The handsome boy Cyparissus, a favorite of Apollo, accidentally killed a beloved tame stag. His grief and remorse were so inconsolable that he asked to weep forever. He was transformed into cupressus sempervirens [Mediterranian Cypress], with the tree's sap as his tears.
22:55.54The_Randomnesslol
22:56.10Monet"He was so stricken with grief he turned into a tree" - Ovid
22:57.27MonetThere's an alternate version that as an act of mercy, Silvanus, Roman god of trees, was what turned him into a tree, carrying a branch as an act of mourning ever since.
22:58.53ImperiosMonet: Cyparissus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyhs-Lu7y50
22:59.38MonetHoly shit Fluttershy must be a fan of Ovid.
22:59.51Wormy_Reminds me of the tale of 9 ladies (you wouldn't heard of it, its a local one), 9 witches who danced on the Sabbath and said to have turned to stone http://www.peakdistrictinformation.com/visits/stanton.php
23:02.55Monet>When your spell backfires so bad it turns you into a rock
23:03.15Wormy_indeed
23:03.34The_Randomnesssolid
23:11.20ImperiosXho: https://2ch.hk/nvr/src/1054541/14842597804400.png
23:14.08Xhoebin
23:25.30Wormy_Xho: https://twitter.com/PeakyBlunders/status/818843932478107648
23:25.53Wormy_DrodoEmpire also
23:26.31Xhoponce weather
23:27.37Tek0516Wormy_: For some reason that crashes my twitter app. O.o
23:28.42Wormy_Tek0516:  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C10eNbsXUAEg3S7.jpg
23:29.23Tek0516I loterally loled
23:29.41Tek0516*literally
23:29.58DrodoEmpireVsauce - See? I'm not so much the 'Bill Nye of Youtube' as I am the... Dad, of idubbbz.
23:30.05DrodoEmpireWormy_: hur
23:30.12DrodoEmpire*Vsauce Micheal rather
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