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11:31.07WormydroidI'm doubtful as it is unhealthy to peg all unknowns as a sign of presumed agency, plus its extremely unlikely, but its something to follow
11:31.07Wormydroidhttps://www.newscientist.com/article/2109139-strange-signals-from-234-stars-could-be-et-or-human-error/
11:31.39WormydroidMandatory ayy lmao
11:33.44WormydroidTest
11:34.26OluapPlayeru failed
11:40.43GhelaeThat article is mostly about criticism of the ET explanation. But they do need to get their clicks.
11:42.24WormydroidI find it unlikely 240 or whatever it was stars in different distances and thus times would be beaming signaos exactly in our direction
11:43.32WormydroidCivilisation/s
11:46.42WormydroidAnd if it was planned, you'd think they would have time travel abilities to orchestrate a massive sign to us of their edistence, as well as forecasting our advancement, but then they'd need not send us signals
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15:00.39OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/E609F8EDBC1272788204235464704_14a91eaa79d.3.2.mp4
15:01.02NeonPandaheh
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15:55.08OluapPlayerImperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al7KhFvCzfo
15:55.55Technobliteratorhahaha
15:55.57ImperiosLol
15:56.02ImperiosWhere did you find this?
15:56.41OluapPlayerAt a forum I frequent
15:57.50OluapPlayer>Saw a guild recently named <Stratholme Fire Department>
15:58.15OluapPlayerSpeaking of Stratholme, I went there yesterday and was kinda baffled
15:58.21ImperiosSTRATHOLME WILL BE PURGED
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15:58.36ImperiosOluapPlayer: Arthas dun fucked up
15:58.40OluapPlayerI solod through the whole thing, killed Balnazzar in 3 hits, yet when I reached the final boss of the side entrance, he fucked me up
15:58.50MixmasterRufusget rekt
15:58.54OluapPlayerI couldn't even scratch him
15:59.14ImperiosThat's probably one of his abilities
15:59.22ImperiosWait you mean Rivendare?
15:59.35OluapPlayerI think that's his name
15:59.42OluapPlayerThe horse-riding death knight
16:00.58OluapPlayerLord Aurius Rivendare
16:01.16MixmasterRufusOluapPlayer: Saw the Emryredin page           did gud
16:01.39OluapPlayerWhat's with the name
16:01.44MixmasterRufusHell I dunno
16:01.47MixmasterRufusy not
16:02.09ImperiosWas just making sure we thought about the same guy
16:02.34OluapPlayerHe seems to be at a far higher level than everything else in the instance
16:02.35ImperiosHis one hit abilities, probably some unique spell
16:02.52OluapPlayerDefinitely much higher level than Balnazzar
16:03.27ImperiosLooking at his abilities, apparently he is healed by his skeletons
16:04.05OluapPlayerThe skeletons ganging up on me didn't help, but I really couldn't deal any major damage to him
16:04.25HachimanImperios: If another F4ntastic film ever gets made, I have a strong feeling that 1) the rights to it should be owned by Marvel and 2) they should use a different F4ntastic villain other than Doctor Doom and save him for a different movie
16:04.35OluapPlayerWhile I one-shotted every trash mob before getting to his room
16:05.37HachimanThing is, I dunno what other F4ntastic villains there are hur
16:05.52XhoHachiman: Or just not make it lel
16:06.44OluapPlayerI also went to the Stockade but that was just for the achievement. I really should've done that at a lower level
16:07.05XhoHm what to do
16:07.08OluapPlayeri never faced hogger at his peak
16:07.21OluapPlayerDo Borealis War with Jo
16:07.47ImperiosHachiman: Well I don't see why it HAS to be Marvel
16:07.55ImperiosFox did a lot of good stuff
16:08.10XhoBorealis, hm
16:08.11ImperiosDeadpool and Days of Future Past for example
16:08.19ImperiosThe first Fan4stic villain should be some other villain yeah
16:08.22XhoDays of Future Past was poor y u support dis
16:08.32ImperiosPlz best X Men ever
16:08.40ImperiosBut then again what other villains does Fanfourstick have?
16:08.44XhoFirst Class > Days of Future Past > Apocalypse
16:08.46HachimanFox clearly isn't doing a good job with Fant4stic though
16:08.58Xhofour nights at fantastic's
16:09.10ImperiosFox is not a monolith
16:09.31XhoWell I would but I think Jo's not about
16:09.35Xho~kick Technobliterator
16:09.41infobotACTION kicks Technobliterator
16:09.41ImperiosPerhaps a poor choice of director, a few poor decisions, too much meddling
16:09.42Technobliteratorwat
16:09.50Xhoborealis war
16:09.57ImperiosSlapping Marvel's name on it won't necessarily make it good considering the concept itself is weird-ish
16:10.05Technobliteratorwat about borealis war
16:10.10Xhodo it
16:10.33ImperiosOf the Fantastic Four that is
16:10.56Imperios>Thing is, I dunno what other F4ntastic villains there are hur
16:10.58ImperiosActually yes that
16:11.04ImperiosI mean there's the Moleman
16:11.08XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14680699_1333922123298328_6957225064644182512_n.jpg?oh=a73ddbf88d15d33fab7cd1b56863d6a8&oe=5893511D
16:11.27OluapPlayeryou a busta cj
16:11.49ImperiosActually
16:11.51ImperiosThere are the Inhumans
16:11.54ImperiosBut THESE are Marvel
16:11.56HachimanThe Inhumans
16:12.00HachimanRemind me who are these
16:12.42ImperiosBasically like X-Men except rather than born from random mutations they are a subspecies of humans
16:12.48ImperiosWith superpowers
16:12.54ImperiosThey feature in Agents of SHIELD
16:13.02ImperiosHYDRA is led by one for example
16:13.13ImperiosThey also featured in the Fantastic Four cartoon I believe
16:13.19HachimanRight
16:13.23ImperiosACTUALLY, there are also the Skrulls
16:14.24HachimanAh yeah, the Skrulls
16:14.33HachimanDunno how I feel about the Skrulls honestly
16:14.38HachimanThey might be a little too goofy for cinema
16:14.54ImperiosThey're basically fucking Reptilians
16:14.56ImperiosThey can work
16:15.19HachimanUnless Fox actually plays up the whole "alien infiltration" aspect and the fact they can be anyone to be dark
16:15.19ImperiosThey are certainly less goofy than the Fantastic Four itself
16:16.35OluapPlayerXho: alternatively do Eschaton
16:16.46XhoWell might do both
16:16.48HachimanI also think they should maybe make the Fant4stic movies a little less... action-oriented, or at least don't make action the centrepiece of a Fant4stic movie
16:17.19ImperiosFair point actually
16:17.36ImperiosConsidering how silly they are, there shouldn't be that much action
16:17.48HachimanOnly 2/4 characters are suited for action, or will at least look good when in action on the big screen
16:18.00HachimanReeds and Susan can still have their powers, but don't use them for action
16:18.15HachimanThey're the smart people of the group after all
16:19.26Imperios^ HELL that is an excellent idea
16:19.57ImperiosHave Susan do stealth action against the Skrulls while Reeds... eh...
16:19.58ImperiosDunno
16:20.03Imperiosrblrlbew what I meant is
16:20.23ImperiosHave Susan infiltrate the Skrulls and spy on them while Reeds... does something stretch-related
16:20.38XhoTurns into a 1980s kids toy
16:20.56HachimanYeah, I honestly don't see much use for Reeds powers at all - which is why they shouldn't be the focus of his character if they make another movie
16:21.13ImperiosYeah he could be... well, the brains of the team
16:21.14HachimanHe has other talents, like being exceptionally smart and being capable of building tech
16:21.26XhoI think that joke went well over everyone's heads
16:21.33HachimanXho: i got dis
16:21.46Xhohumour 2gud u all scrubs
16:22.59HachimanAlso Imperios check out http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Constarnach and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Emryredin
16:23.10ImperiosIt could be pretty cool: a somewhat light-hearted but dramatic movie centered around fighting aliens
16:23.45Imperios>“Accept my dominion.”
16:23.49ImperiosDreadnaught bird
16:24.40ImperiosOooh that one's interesting, I wonder where the griffons of the Empire of Man could fit into all of that
16:25.07HachimanThey're six-limbed right?
16:25.30ImperiosThe ones on the coat of arms are six-limbed, there was also one girffon concept I made which had no wings
16:25.38OluapPlayerdats just a lion
16:25.53HachimanThey'd be descendants of griffons that stemmed from Constarnach's emergence into the world
16:26.08HachimanCaptured by humans and such
16:26.09OluapPlayerI make no statements regarding six-limbed griffons
16:26.20OluapPlayerI just claim Constarnach was one
16:26.48ImperiosOluapPlayer: My original idea was that Imperial gryphons are half-bear, half-bald eagle
16:26.51Imperioswere even
16:26.59Imperiosthe Imperial gryphons even
16:27.05HachimanAh
16:27.27OluapPlayerI don't claim ownership of griffons so as far as i'm concerned you can make whatever you want
16:27.43ImperiosAlrightio
16:28.30OluapPlayerEmryredin's breed of griffon is mine though
16:29.32Xhosupagrifeen
16:30.01Xhobenevolent god
16:30.02Xhok den
16:30.28Hachiman>implying benevolent gods are bad
16:30.56HachimanWe have far more neutral and evil Colossi than we do benevolent ones, and even then, not many of the good ones are actually all that hospitable
16:30.57Xhodis is xho ur talkin 2
16:31.04Xhomalevolent or gtfo
16:31.11OluapPlayeredgelord pls dai
16:31.23ImperiosColossus of Edges
16:31.23Xhohow bout i cut myself on all my edges
16:31.37ImperiosLiterally a monster composed of sharp objects
16:31.39XhoNeed to make a new Dark Colossus
16:31.41OluapPlayerXho the hedgehog
16:31.48XhoNOTHIN PERSONNEL KID
16:31.50ImperiosYes actually a hedgehog
16:32.10HachimanI did consider making a new Dark Colossus as a Godzilla-type figure but that wouldn't come off as very interesting
16:32.27Xhohow bout
16:32.30Xhoflying whales
16:32.35OluapPlayerrandum
16:32.40Imperioshttp://images.amcnetworks.com/bbcamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/hedgehog.jpg Hedgehogs have quite a few edgy quills
16:32.42XhoIt's a joke Hachi would get
16:32.54Hachimanhao bout u maek ur fukn enuisi things
16:33.02XhoShould do really
16:33.07XhoMight remake Sihilienu while I'm at it
16:33.23OluapPlayerOld Ice, New Dark and New Sun are the only Colossi remaining to be made
16:33.33HachimanAnd New Nature
16:33.43ImperiosDo we need a new Sun Colossus?
16:33.47OluapPlayerAre you fucking serious
16:33.47XhoHm
16:33.57OluapPlayerWe talked about this already
16:34.01XhoI have an idea for a story revolving aorund the Sun Colossus
16:34.02OluapPlayerAnd preferably yes
16:34.04ImperiosDid we?
16:34.05Xhoaround*
16:34.10OluapPlayerImperios: That was to hachi
16:34.12ImperiosAh
16:34.16Hachimany cant new nature coexist wiv old nature
16:34.27OluapPlayerBecause consistency
16:34.51OluapPlayerIt's like you're actively trying to piss me off
16:34.55ImperiosWe could base the remaining Colossi on some obscure mythological animals
16:34.56HachimanWhoa alright calm down
16:35.21ImperiosHm, do we have any horse-like Colossi?
16:35.41OluapPlayerNo
16:35.54ImperiosOkay I just had a very stupid idea
16:35.56HachimanI think we should approach Ecoraptor and Liquid Ink about their Colossi though
16:36.05Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chollima Imagine this as a colossus
16:36.14OluapPlayerI told you to do that several months ago, none of you bothered to
16:36.17HachimanThey have no active involvement in the Fantasyverse anymore so we should talk with them about putting Colossi positions up for grabs
16:36.18ImperiosSome  sort of supernatural flamey pegasus
16:36.40OluapPlayerWe already got Fire Colossi sorted tho
16:36.59ImperiosWell it does not have to be flamey
16:37.09XhoWell, to continue with the current theme for Sun
16:37.11HachimanMake Sleipner the Old Ice Colossus
16:37.12XhoEither dragon or bird
16:37.29Imperios"Chollima is an important symbol in North Korea. Several statues are found of this creature in Pyongyang, the capital of North Korea. The Chollima Statue symbolizes "heroism, the constant, fighting spirit of the Korean people, and the innovations and advance so quickly, at the speed of the Chollima".
16:37.32OluapPlayerActually since we're all talking about the fantasyverse
16:37.35OluapPlayerOne thing I wanted to bring up
16:37.40HachimanHm?
16:37.47OluapPlayerI think we could give proper names to the continents
16:37.54HachimanWesteros
16:37.56HachimanEssos
16:38.00OluapPlayerfuck offfff
16:38.03Xhodreadful kill urself
16:38.12HachimanEasteros and Wessos
16:38.15XhoWell I can't give any modern names
16:38.26ImperiosWesterex and Essex
16:38.35HachimanYou mean Wessex right
16:38.44ImperiosWell yeah Wessex
16:38.46HachimanAnd also no, we're not naming anything after Wessex or Essex
16:38.47NeonPandadon't look at me, I called the four nations of my D&D world Nordland, Sudland, Ostland and Midland
16:38.50ImperiosJust kididng hur
16:38.50HachimanEssex is fucking awful
16:39.09XhoThe Orichalcum Elves would have called them the Occasus and the Ortus
16:39.15Hachiman>Occasus
16:39.19OluapPlayerfuk ur shite elves
16:39.20HachimanThat's Kicath planet tho
16:39.41NeonPandaalso, playing in a D&D game that's basically Clap Your Hands If You Believe as a game concept
16:39.45NeonPandait's ridiculous and I love it
16:39.51ImperiosI sometimes used the term "Orient" when referring to the eastern parts of Koldenwelt
16:40.05XhoOr occidens and orientis
16:40.13ImperiosEspecially where the Empire is
16:40.14XhoOccidens and Orientis is more likely
16:40.23HachimanHow about
16:40.24NeonPandanot going to last more than a few sessions but it kinda inspired me to make a character of such nature for fantasyverse, but not sure where that would fit on the power scale
16:40.30HachimanWestern Continent and Eastern Continent
16:40.43ImperiosEastern Kingdoms
16:40.47Imperioske]
16:40.48Imperioskek
16:40.48HachimanNeonPanda: So, Ork magic?
16:41.00NeonPandabasically, just on an individual level
16:41.02OluapPlayertake discussion seriously pls
16:41.16NeonPandalike, spellcasting works because the spellcaster believes it works, so I'm basically fucking with the rules of reality through sheer willpower
16:41.35HachimanEh should go with an Orichalcum Elf name or something I dunno
16:41.46HachimanNothing I have is influential enough to name the continents
16:41.55OluapPlayerOn the fantasyverse that would be god-like probably
16:42.03ImperiosTBH look at how obscure the names of IRL continents are
16:42.04XhoOrichalcum Elves have already established enough
16:42.08Hachiman>fucking with the rules of reality
16:42.12HachimanYou mean arcane magic
16:42.15HachimanAnd magic in general
16:42.20XhoI could imagine the pre-5000 BNA names would be Occidens and Orientis
16:42.22ImperiosWe can just make up something random
16:42.29HachimanWell like
16:42.34HachimanWhere did we get Koldenwelt from
16:42.39NeonPandabasically
16:42.40ImperiosRussian and German
16:42.42OluapPlayerYour average arcane mage can't change the laws of physics
16:42.43ImperiosKoldun = Sorcerer
16:42.47ImperiosWelt = World
16:43.13HachimanWe could go with something like how we named Koldenwelt or resort to using PIE or something
16:43.17NeonPandalike my character works purely on the fact that he believes he is in fact a motherfucking dragon, so magic works the way he thinks it does because he's a motherfucking dragon
16:43.35NeonPandaso he can fly just because he believes he should be able to fly, rather than actually casting the Fly spell
16:43.44HachimanOh shit forgot to feed the dogs, brb
16:43.55ImperiosI'll just take a random word from my coursework and use it as a suggestion
16:43.58Imperios"Acritarch"
16:44.05OluapPlayerThat probably falls under god power, too extreme for the average joe
16:44.28ImperiosAcritarcha
16:45.44ImperiosActually PIE works very well
16:45.50Imperioshttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%82ews-
16:46.06Imperios"Heus" or "Eus", that's an excellent name for the eastern continent
16:46.18ImperiosMight add or remove one letter or two
16:46.27Imperios"Aeus", "Eius", "Haeus"
16:46.33OluapPlayeraeiou
16:47.21OluapPlayerWhat about the west?
16:47.55ImperiosHm
16:48.14ImperiosLooks like PIE did not have one common name for the West
16:48.26Imperios*west
16:48.45ImperiosThe word "west" itself is apparently derived from a PIE root that meant "twilight"
16:50.20OluapPlayerbit of a stretch
16:50.57ImperiosIT kind of makes sense
16:51.04ImperiosTwilight, dusk, sun setting
16:51.15ImperiosThe sun sets on the west
16:51.24Imperioshttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/wek(%CA%B7)speros We could work from that
16:52.01ImperiosWeksperos, Wexperos... Vex? Wex?
16:52.58OluapPlayerVex and Aeus
16:54.21ImperiosCould lengthen it to "Vexpas" or something
16:54.22ImperiosVespas?
16:54.24XhoWekwsperos doi
16:54.36ImperiosTry to pronounce that really quickly ten times
16:54.36XhoGood old PIE phonology
16:54.50ImperiosThere is a reason nobody speaks like that anymore
16:55.05ImperiosWue-koos-pa-eros
16:55.07XhoWell the last time was spoken was like 6000 years ago
16:55.09ImperiosVeccas?
16:55.15OluapPlayerVexeus and Heus
16:55.20ImperiosVexeus yes
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16:55.24ImperiosThat works
16:55.36XhoVexeus and Heus
16:55.42Xhoworks
16:55.44ImperiosThey're Vexeus and Heus
16:55.45ImperiosYes
16:55.48ImperiosThey're Vexeus and Heus
16:55.51ImperiosOne is a geneus
16:55.55ImperiosThe other's insaeus
16:56.00OluapPlayerhur
16:56.53WormydroidMy lecturer has challenged us to try and disprove the Kollatz conjecture next, going into the deep end already now lol.  We also started covering sets in databases and signal transmission of bits
16:57.21ImperiosHi Wormy
16:57.29WormydroidHey
16:58.09Wormydroid*Collatz
17:05.17OluapPlayerHachiman: git back here
17:05.28HachimanBack
17:05.53HachimanVexeus I like
17:05.56HachimanNot sure about Heus
17:06.12HachimanJust sounds a little... It doesn't really compare with the punch of Vexeus
17:07.14NeonPandagotta be honest, I kinda liked Vex and Aeus
17:07.40NeonPandasimple, easily misinterpreted as having some kind of ridiculous ancient symbolism that they don't actually have by logic of simple = primal
17:09.01ImperiosNeonPanda: After Caligaduro is imprisoned again, the Empire of Man, the Sovereignty of the Dryada and the Merovar Dynasty sign a pact of friendship and form the Aeuropean Union
17:09.33NeonPandaallow me to preempt Hachi on his non
17:09.41Hachimannon
17:09.45HachimanMannazia leaving dat shit
17:09.49NeonPandathen again I don't participate in that universe so I dun care XD
17:09.51XhoImperios: Caligaduro must rise again
17:10.04OluapPlayercolossus of vomit
17:10.12HachimanThe Trash Man
17:10.17ImperiosXho: Caligaduro rises to #MakeKoldenweltGreatAgain
17:10.23OluapPlayeryou mean The TRAYUSH MAN
17:10.37XhoCaligaduro - #makeatherealfirmamentnonexistentagain
17:10.43HachimanTeratoma, aka Trayush
17:10.43OluapPlayerstop dis
17:11.05OluapPlayerSo are we going for Vex and Aeus or Vexeus and Heus
17:11.08OluapPlayerOr something else entirey
17:11.14XhoWell let's keep going
17:11.19XhoVexeus and Heus are the strongest so far
17:12.26XhoIt might get to the point where we have a table of its names anyway
17:12.36XhoI can't imagine them having just one pair of names
17:12.46HachimanThe world only has one name
17:12.56HachimanThe regions only have one name
17:13.13ImperiosWell
17:13.16XhoIn the common tongue yeah
17:13.25XhoI was on about multiple languages
17:13.25OluapPlayeryes and the common tongue is what matters hur
17:13.28ImperiosIRL continents have the same name in almost every language
17:13.31Xhofuk ur shit
17:13.52ImperiosOkay, save for East Asians who sometimes shorten continent names
17:13.58Imperios"Eu", "A", etc
17:14.09ImperiosBut still the etymology is the same
17:15.24Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Prologue#Death_Overhead nu section
17:15.38OluapPlayerded overhed
17:16.58OluapPlayer>Yogtam admiral
17:17.05OluapPlayerYou mean Inalton admiral right
17:17.13XhoKitoruka - dunt matter lol
17:17.23OluapPlayerYogtam is a character, Inalton is his race
17:17.42Xhothat would be jo
17:19.37Technobliteratorthat was my fault
17:19.38Technobliterator:V
17:19.50TechnobliteratorI never use the Inalton anymore
17:19.59OluapPlayerYou never used anything anymore
17:20.07OluapPlayershameful
17:20.07OluapPlayeruse*
17:20.24Technobliterator:c
17:22.03Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/SpottedPompey/videos/575863212599693/ kitty
17:22.48OluapPlayermeow
17:25.42OluapPlayerImperios: I only just found out Metzen isn't at Blizzard anymore
17:25.51ImperiosThe reign of orcs is over
17:26.09OluapPlayerwe have lived to see the end of the age of green jesus
17:27.10OluapPlayerAlso as far as I read, they never killed Kel'Thuzad off completely
17:27.28OluapPlayerHe was defeated in Naxxramas but his phylactery was never found
17:34.05OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: We can do the next section now if you're free
17:35.11TechnobliteratorI need to eat
17:35.15Technobliteratorbut after that, yeah, sure
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17:36.16WormydroidHi
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18:12.18Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f2/Sihilienu2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161017181144 all hail the benevolent squid god
18:18.08Technobliterator:c
18:18.51TechnobliteratorI guess Oluap dc'd or something
18:19.20Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Grox_Emblem.png Just realised the Grox did not have an emblem
18:19.22ImperiosSo I made one
18:19.50ImperiosThough it fits some race of cyborg pirates more
18:22.03Xhonothing will ever make the grox good
18:22.58ImperiosCome on they were cool antagonists for the game
18:24.39XhoFor Spore
18:24.40Xhoas in
18:24.41XhoSpore
18:25.51XhoThe absolute agony of not having Red Dead Redemption on Steam
18:27.24ImperiosThe cog here is from the Vietcong and the swords from the Taliban
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18:38.50ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b9/Grox_Seal.png/revision/latest?cb=20161017183644 Just realised the Grox lacked a proper symbol
18:38.53ImperiosGhelae may also take a look
18:39.10OluapPlayerskelly
18:39.49OluapPlayerIt look good but I question why the Grox would have a human skull for a symbol
18:40.24ImperiosWell considering the Grox are also mammalian with pretty flat faces, and that skull in particular is kind of squished, that is a pretty good approximation of how their skulls would look too
18:41.06ImperiosAlso, I went with the idea that, since the Grox did not need to inspire their own people with state symbols or to use them to distinguish their ships and vehicles, the emblem would simply be designed to look scary to other species
18:41.57Xhoyeah but grox
18:42.14XhoI just have a personal gripe with the Grox
18:42.15OluapPlayerRight
18:42.26OluapPlayerthat's too bad hombre
18:42.36Xhooluap is suddenly mexicano
18:43.12XhoI kind of want to do Eschaton because it's the last section in the story
18:43.17XhoBefore SHIT GOES SOUTH FAST
18:44.25OluapPlayerI just invited Hachi to rp and he said no so, not todat
18:44.26OluapPlayery
18:45.05Xhoded
18:58.30ImperiosXho: Reading up British history atm... so... the White Walkers in GoT are stand-ins for the Danes?
18:58.56TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, can we do the Borealis War section tomorrow?
18:59.01ImperiosThe Seven Kingdoms are England,  the Wall is Hadrian's Wall, the White Walkers are Vikings, right?
18:59.05TechnobliteratorI'm busy with 9999 things for the rest of today
18:59.20OluapPlayerthe one day I don't play WoW, no one rps
18:59.30OluapPlayeryall failed me
18:59.45TechnobliteratorI mean, I could alternatively delay the other stuff for tomorrow and rp today, I guess?
18:59.59OluapPlayerWe can do it when you're free
19:00.06TechnobliteratorYeah, I should be in about 10 minutes
19:00.34XhoImperios: More like apocalyptic superhumans
19:00.34OluapPlayerYou're getting all the 9999 things done in 10 minutes?
19:00.46XhoSo yeah Danes
19:00.49ImperiosOluapPlayer: Play WoW then
19:00.51OluapPlayerI said when you're free as in tomorrow
19:01.12OluapPlayeri need u in my wow
19:01.21XhoMan that sounds wrong
19:01.27OluapPlayerkek
19:01.53ImperiosWhile you're at it, we could try Horde
19:01.56Imperioswell you could
19:03.42XhoWell I'm out of shit to do
19:04.46GhelaeImperios: Yeah, I can just about see that being a Grox skull, probably viewed from an above angle.
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19:05.45GhelaeGrox eyes are very high up on their head, so on that emblem you'll be viewing the top of their skull as well as the front. While Grox don't have nostrils, a humanoid skull with no nose-hole would look quite strange.
19:05.49GhelaeHello.
19:05.55TybusenHello
19:06.34ImperiosHi
19:06.51ImperiosTybusen Monet: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b9/Grox_Seal.png/revision/latest?cb=20161017183644 Look what I made
19:07.08Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Grox_Emblem.png Same thing but no background
19:08.01TybusenNot sure how fitting the humanoid skull is but I think the rest of it looks great
19:08.46Ghelae[19:40] <Imperios> Well considering the Grox are also mammalian with pretty flat faces, and that skull in particular is kind of squished, that is a pretty good approximation of how their skulls would look too
19:08.53Ghelae[19:41] <Imperios> Also, I went with the idea that, since the Grox did not need to inspire their own people with state symbols or to use them to distinguish their ships and vehicles, the emblem would simply be designed to look scary to other species
19:09.46TechnobliteratorI mean
19:09.58TechnobliteratorI can get at least 1 of those 9999 things done now and delay the others til tomorrow
19:10.47XhoWell you have 9999 days to do them
19:10.50XhoOr roughly 28 years
19:11.16OluapPlayerImperios: What classes have healing spells?
19:11.28ImperiosPriest, shaman, monk, druid, and paladin
19:11.46OluapPlayerRight
19:12.10OluapPlayerI don't know about making a Horde char when you and Monet both play Alliance
19:12.43MonetI have a lvl 57  BE paladin
19:12.48ImperiosI play both sides
19:12.59ImperiosMonet: where is your pally?
19:13.09ImperiosAs in which realm
19:13.18MonetAD
19:15.08ImperiosOluapPlayer: My Horde char is on Defias Brotherhood BTW
19:15.54OluapPlayerYou can join that?
19:17.28XhoHm might expand on the Insomnolence because they need real expandin'
19:17.31Xhodong overload
19:17.36ImperiosMe?
19:17.39ImperiosAs in?
19:17.48ImperiosWell actually I can
19:17.49OluapPlayerlern 2 read
19:17.58ImperiosUntil level 20 that is
19:18.01OluapPlayerI asked if the player can join the Defias Brotherhood
19:18.15ImperiosOh no, there's just a server called the Defias Brotherhood
19:18.18OluapPlayerBecause afaik they're just mooks in the Deadmines
19:18.22OluapPlayerAh okay
19:18.28ImperiosThey're actually kind of interesting
19:18.41ImperiosThey were actually stonemasons and engineers originally
19:18.58MonetRebuilt stormwind after the first human-orc war.
19:19.01OluapPlayerI know their backstory, they helped build Stormwind then the nobles refused to pay them
19:19.29TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, I'm free now
19:19.45OluapPlayerI don't mind waiting until tomorrow if your things are important
19:20.50TechnobliteratorOnly one of them really is, and I can multitask
19:21.04TechnobliteratorI'm negotiating my internship, but I can do that at the same time
19:21.14Technobliteratorthe other stuff can wait
19:21.31MonetI think it was the Stonemasons that are the reason Stormind looks so nice compared to say Altdorf.
19:22.10OluapPlayerRight then
19:25.18ImperiosMonet: Karl Franz v Varian Wrynn
19:25.21Monethttps://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1502961780527400366.jpg as a CG student what imrpesses me is how much planning must have gone into this model.
19:26.04ImperiosMonet: Deathwing - *URGE TO BURN INTENSIFIES*
19:26.42ImperiosWait what is that district next to the port
19:26.45OluapPlayerWhere even is Deathwing? Like, when am I gonna see him doing things
19:26.47Imperioswith grey roofs
19:27.00OluapPlayerSo far his only appearance was at the Badlands
19:27.05ImperiosOluapPlayer: He appears in Twilight Highlands
19:27.10ImperiosBut there's no set place where he *lives*
19:27.27OluapPlayerThat'd explain the high level of that area
19:27.36ImperiosBack in Cata he flew around Azeroth and put random zones on fire
19:27.48ImperiosThere was an achievement for being killed by him
19:27.56ImperiosThe sky would turn red and he would fly around the zone
19:27.58MonetImperios: That district next ot the port may be old town.
19:28.04OluapPlayerThat sounds cool
19:28.16ImperiosMonet: Isn't it farther from the shore and has yellow roofs?
19:28.38MonetI think the designers also moved the trade district to be on the coast
19:29.31MonetThe yellow rooves are the cathedral square, and the big castle close to the dicks must be Stormwind Keep
19:30.07Monetdocks*
19:32.04MonetIf I remember my lore, the original Stormwind was nestled at the foot of Stormwind Keep.
19:35.15ImperiosOluapPlayer: OR do you mean the actual raid where he is fought?
19:35.31OluapPlayerNo you got it right the first time
19:35.50OluapPlayerI know the final battle takes place at the Maelstrom
19:36.44OluapPlayerWhat being said I wonder what's the hardest boss in the game atm
19:36.49OluapPlayerThat*
19:41.16MonetJust found a picture of Waterdeep https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1502978353880025925.jpg
19:42.10ImperiosXavius
19:43.34MonetThat's only 1/3rd of it https://tavernadokaplan.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/citymap.jpg
19:44.06OluapPlayergoat man
19:46.45OluapPlayerWowhead mentions an instance where Gul'dan is the final boss
19:47.25OluapPlayerNighthold
19:47.40ImperiosYeah but it's not released yet
19:47.48ImperiosIt will be released on January, around the time I return to WoW
19:48.31OluapPlayerThey release the list of bosses and loot before the instance itself?
19:49.17NeonPandanot the worst idea, so that people can prep
19:54.46dino82_oh nighthold, cna't wait to do that one
19:54.51dino82_that will be the conclusion
19:54.59dino82_you also have another big one, the tower of Medihv
19:55.13dino82_on the 25th or so
19:55.33XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman Imperios: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e2/Insomnolent.png/revision/latest?cb=20161017195051 So this is what happens to the people who get assimilated into the Insomnolence
19:55.46ImperiosNyan
19:55.46Xhowow killed him
19:55.59Imperiosdino82_: It won't be a raid, just a big dungeon
19:56.23dino82_oh ok, then only raids are Nighthold and the Emerald Dream
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19:56.38OluapPlayerGoddamnit
19:56.49XhoOluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e2/Insomnolent.png/revision/latest?cb=20161017195051 What happens to people who come across Vanguard
19:57.00HachimanXho: THIS IS MY FAPPING HAND
19:57.15OluapPlayerzambo
19:57.24OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: wake up
19:57.30XhoAnd yes Kelodhros/Theriocephali variants exist as well
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19:57.46Wormy_hi
19:58.45MonetI find it interesting that despite its size, Waterdeep isn't some imperial capital.
19:59.41XhoWorst thing about the Insomnolent is while they're feral and insane, they're also aware of it
20:00.05OluapPlayerGod fuck off titanpad
20:01.21XhoNeed to come up with some Eidolons
20:01.24XhoWell I have a Night Lord
20:01.41XhoCould make a generic Night Lord
20:01.49XhoDread Drakes
20:02.36XhoNight Lords, Dread Drakes and zombies
20:03.44XhoHachiman: How about I put Tzitzimitl into the Insomnolence
20:04.23HachimanSure
20:05.28XhoMight turn the fertility thing on its head and say they're spirits of the miscarried instead
20:05.33Xhobecause dark moed is on
20:05.37Xhomode even
20:06.31Imperiosdino82
20:06.36Imperiosoh wait he dead
20:06.36HachimanTheir main weapons are coat hangers
20:07.16Xhosavage
20:09.33Technobliteratorbleh
20:09.34Technobliteratortitanpad
20:09.44OluapPlayerUgh
20:12.05Xhohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_Heavens Koldenwelt is Aztec confirmed
20:19.15HachimanI wonder if there's ever been a situation where any of the Simulacra has challenged a mortal to a game or show of talent of some sort - as in, something equivalent to those times in shows and movies and whatnot where somebody challenges the Devil
20:19.53XhoProbably would have happened with Asv-Aldz on the account of him being a gambling dickhead
20:20.22HachimanI wonder if Asv-Aldz is the kind of guy who cheats beyond measure
20:20.28HachimanOr if he does things fairly
20:20.32XhoHe cheats
20:20.34XhoOf course he cheats
20:20.43XhoHe's the Simulacrum of Treachery among other things
20:20.43Tek0516http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1476716258-20161017.png
20:21.21Xhodoi
20:21.44Hachimankek
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20:34.54Quark8Hello.
20:36.41GhelaeHello.
20:38.43ImperiosHi
20:39.00ImperiosWormy_: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b9/Grox_Seal.png/revision/latest?cb=20161017183644 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Grox_Emblem.png
20:54.35TybusenImperios: I wonder if the Bunsen Grox's emblem would try to be the antithesis to the Grox one
20:54.47ImperiosDon't you already have one
20:55.01ImperiosBut yeah I think other Grox would take the main state emblem but somehow alter it
20:55.16TybusenThe one I have is a flag
20:55.44TybusenAnd like most of my flags, it's kind of low-effort
21:00.00ImperiosI'd make one for Borealis Grox too but I am not sure what kind of element could work for it
21:00.09Tybusenice cubes
21:01.20OluapPlayerHigh tech symbols
21:01.33Tybusenwith ice cubes
21:18.29Wormy_Imperios:  Wow, I like it.  Reminds me of Grox theories that they're us
21:21.58Wormy_Monet:  Well I've finished watching HYpernormalisation.  Very creepy perspective of the world
21:22.58Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Andromedan_Grox_Emblem.png Well here's the first one
21:24.03Wormy_Also good, sure I've seen that symbolism somwhere
21:24.56ImperiosThat's from the flag I made years ago
21:25.02ImperiosExcept there's one more detail
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21:26.56DrodoEmpireBack'
21:29.08Wormy_Monet:  Thought it echoed some discussions on SporeWiki
21:29.09TybusenImperios: The sword stabbing the dragon?
21:29.21ImperiosWell the sword was there, but the dragon is new
21:29.38TybusenYeah that's what I meant
21:29.49TybusenSymbolizing victory over the Draconis, I'm guessing
21:30.40HachimanImperios Monet: NO FUCKING WAY IS THE SON OF REED RICHARDS AN OMEGA LEVEL MUTANT
21:30.56ImperiosOmega level
21:30.57ImperiosWut dat
21:31.03ImperiosMe no comprendo comics
21:31.11HachimanLike, Storm-level of power
21:31.17ImperiosWell comprendo but not to uber nerd level
21:31.18HachimanPower of a demigod, essentially
21:31.50HachimanFrom what I'm reading, he was able to turn fucking Galactus into his herald
21:32.33XhoI was about to say wasn't Reed Richard's son a serial killer or something
21:32.37XhoBut that's Jim Gordon's son
21:32.42XhoTotally wrong universe
21:32.47Hachimanhur
21:32.52HachimanJim Gordon's son is a serial killer?
21:32.56ImperiosTybusen: I figured out that since Grox themselves have no use for identification symbols or imagery inspiring national pride, their emblems are only meant for others to see
21:32.59TybusenYou don't know if there's some guy called Jim Gordon in the Marvelverse
21:33.08ImperiosWhich would mean they are basically for trolling
21:33.15XhoHe's a psychopath of some merit I think
21:33.27TybusenImperios: That makes sense, a hive mind doesn't need inspiration so use your symbols to demoralize the enemy
21:34.03XhoYeah James Gordon Jr is a serial killer
21:35.17HachimanFranklin Richards is essentially a near-Emperor-level psychic; his powers include latent reality manipulation, which also allows him to create pocket universes, latent molecular and energy manipulation, latent chronokinesis, telepathy, and telekinesis, and he can manipulate the four fundamental forces of the universe on a cosmic scale
21:35.53HachimanHe actually went back in time as an adult through his own powers in order to tutor and mentor his younger self
21:36.04TybusenFrank Richards - lol noclip through the 11th dimension
21:37.02XhoThat's some xhodocto level shit m9
21:37.10ImperiosHachiman: And then eventually Franklin comes into the future to see himself ruling the universe - and his future self responds...
21:37.14Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Prologue#Battle_of_Vorin_XI :ooo
21:37.17Technobliteratorplease check that section
21:37.20TybusenXhodocto - that's my boy
21:37.20Imperios"About fucking time, I have so many things to complain about"
21:37.25OluapPlayeryes chek thingy
21:37.27TechnobliteratorI really enjoyed it, plus I want to know what people thought of Volzara here
21:37.28Wormy_mah boi
21:38.19TechnobliteratorImperios may want to give feedback since he's good at that
21:38.22Technobliteratoras is Hachiman
21:39.11HachimanGotcha, I'll check in a bit
21:39.44ImperiosI HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT
21:39.56Imperios> I could explain to you the scientific Chronoscopic Theory in detail, but we have little time for that.
21:40.08ImperiosNo-ot sure if Tuolog is the guy to say that
21:40.29ImperiosI generally do not feel everything needs to be scientifically explained, there needs to be some level of mystery here
21:40.32OluapPlayerHe's probably the best guy to confirm is there's enough time to explain something
21:40.33ImperiosBut that's in general
21:40.42OluapPlayerif*
21:41.05ImperiosI dunno I felt that if there's any person who would treat Chronoscoping scientifically, it would be the Kralgon Emperor
21:41.14Imperios*Chronoscopic
21:41.54ImperiosI SWEAR that typo wasn't on purpose
21:42.24ImperiosIMO it could be cool if Tuolog went all mystical and spoke of currents of time, while Kralgon would propose theories and all that
21:42.52ImperiosAnd Tuolog would retort saying that our minds are too small to know everything and not everything can be comprehended by three-dimensional minds, and that you'd need enlightenment by the Taldar for tat
21:42.56ImperiosTo understand everything
21:43.15ImperiosBut that's just how I see the characters
21:43.24OluapPlayerYou got a point but that's all for Jo to decide
21:43.41ImperiosIndeed, that's why she asked for feedback
21:43.45ImperiosAnd here I am providing it
21:44.03ImperiosBut that's just me, I personally do not believe that scientifically explained equals good or vice versa
21:44.09ImperiosTake Lem's Solaris for example
21:44.22OluapPlayerwat dat
21:44.49TybusenTechnobliterator: Volzara seems like a good New Testament sort of god, looking out for her people and not dicking people over just because they look at her funny
21:44.58OluapPlayerRegardless, most important thing is
21:45.01OluapPlayerXeron for the whole war
21:45.03OluapPlayerwooo
21:45.05Xho"Tuolog - Yes. One Xi'Arazulha is destroying Grenzaar. He is taking his time. Probably to watch the population suffer."                        Kitoruka - kek
21:45.22Technobliterator\o/
21:45.24OluapPlayerVolzara - bitch hope ur ready for som god-tier spankin
21:45.25ImperiosOluapPlayer: Xeron - I CANNOT DISMISS THAT CLAIM       NOOOOOOOOOO
21:45.42TechnobliteratorYeah, the sense I wanted to give from Volzara was like
21:46.04TechnobliteratorAny other godrace like this, you would be trembling in fear and terrified of them, but in awe at the same time
21:46.09TechnobliteratorThese guys, you just feel comforted and safe
21:46.33TechnobliteratorAnd yeah, Imp, I would give that line to the Kralgon Emperor, but at the time he was in a craze :P
21:47.02ImperiosYeah you could but for a shaman that remark was just a bit too... cold or something
21:47.08XhoAngazhar - dis gon b gud to watch
21:47.47TybusenTechnobliterator: Yeah you definitely nailed the benevolent god aspect of Volzara, I'd definitely be comfortable if she just showed up in my house one day
21:47.52XhoAngazhar's past time = making Essentials fight Essentials for amusement
21:47.56ImperiosI imagine it'd be better if he said something like "there are those among us who could put all of that to you in more *scientific* terms, but we do not have time for that"
21:48.12Imperios> fearsome-looking Duletha in black armor
21:48.16ImperiosAren't Dulethua fucking tiny
21:48.23Technobliterator\o/
21:48.46Technobliteratorah, I see what you mean
21:48.52Imperios>DA TIME PIGGIE GODDESS
21:49.14ImperiosFrom now on, I shall refer to Volzara as "Peppa"
21:49.27XhoKitoruka - mmm i like bacon
21:50.26TybusenI think I remember Peppa the Pig had an episode banned in Australia
21:50.32TybusenBecause it was about being nice to spiders
21:50.45OluapPlayerGoddamnit all
21:50.52OluapPlayer>3.54m
21:50.57OluapPlayerNot tiny in the slightest
21:51.00ImperiosHuh
21:51.02OluapPlayerDuletha are nearly 4 m tall iirc
21:51.09ImperiosThey look kind of tiny,
21:51.16ImperiosI dunno maybe it's the proportions
21:51.26ImperiosTybusen: My parents hate Peppa for some reason
21:53.09TybusenImperios: is probably because they hate capitalist pigs
21:54.49ImperiosXeron be like "m'lady"
21:55.36XhoWait hold on Yagaran got ultra-rekt
21:56.10OluapPlayerHe did
21:56.16OluapPlayerGot destroyed by Volzara herself
21:56.49ImperiosTechnobliterator: I can't decide whether to pronounce Zr'Ahgloth's lines with a Cockney accent or with an Ebonics accent
21:57.41XhoTechnobliterator: I might redo the Xol'Etra if I can be arsed enough
21:57.51DrodoEmpireI always figured the Loron sounded like chavish
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21:58.01DrodoEmpireReally rough, low-class British sorta thing
21:58.06HachimantHING IS
21:58.09HachimanThing is
21:58.14HachimanWe also have a lot of black chavs and roadmen
21:58.37XhoMainly because it's still in "We are still stronger than the Xhodocto" even though that's outdated by like three years
21:58.38DrodoEmpireAh
21:58.46ImpyDroidI once said I imagined normal Lorons speaking like chavs
21:58.57DrodoEmpireRight, right
21:58.57ImpyDroidDark Loron as American gang bangers
21:59.00DrodoEmpirehur
21:59.06ImpyDroidAnd Cold Loron as Russian gopniks
21:59.18OluapPlayerGrak'tona - cheeki breeki
21:59.46DrodoEmpireOn a similar subject
21:59.51OluapPlayerCast page just got its first of many "Deceased" statuses
22:00.04OluapPlayerthat page will have a lot of red in it as time passes
22:00.19Xhomuch ded
22:00.20Xhois red
22:00.33DrodoEmpireDue to how the Drodo are organised (in tight knit, large clans), I dunno if youth gangs are much of a thing in the DE
22:00.47DrodoEmpirePerhaps among orphans, who're a completely ignored underclass for the most part
22:00.58DrodoEmpireClanless and the like
22:02.01DrodoEmpireThe most I can imagine that're anywhere near chavs are (usually rural) kids causing trouble in their spare time
22:02.04ImpyDroidDrodoEmpire Monet: Just realised Saint Petersburg is the capital of Russia in Civ VI
22:02.06ImpyDroidFINALLY
22:02.08ImpyDroidFINALLY
22:02.10DrodoEmpireHuh
22:02.11ImpyDroidSUCK IT MOSCOW
22:02.15DrodoEmpirehur
22:02.58OluapPlayerHachiman: wut u think of section
22:03.12DrodoEmpireAs for accents? Ehh, I dunno. I mean, the DE's absurdly diverse in terms of cultures and languages, united loosely with Basic Aratacian being a common secondary language and language of govt.
22:03.29TechnobliteratorLoron sound chavish/roadman-ish, yeah
22:03.35*** join/#sporewiki Charles_Murray (ad2e6613@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.46.102.19)
22:03.54DrodoEmpireI figure some places, especially poor rural worlds have a distinct drawl/dialects
22:03.55XhoStill though, Volzara vs Kitoruka next section
22:03.58Xhogon b gud
22:04.03TechnobliteratorI am hyped for that
22:04.13DrodoEmpireAnd urbanised or wealthy areas may have more civilised or "high-class" dialects
22:04.19HachimanOluapPlayer: i sed ill reed it l8r
22:04.26HachimanPreferably when I'm not tired
22:04.29OluapPlayerdum
22:04.32HachimanSo at some point tomorrow
22:04.42OluapPlayerIt's Volzara vs Kitoruka
22:04.45Xhohttp://i.imgur.com/NnoGhN1.gif?noredirect Meanwhile Angazhar watches like
22:04.47HachimanFrom what people are saying though, it's gonna be an interesting read
22:04.47OluapPlayerThen Zargoth vs Whatshisface
22:04.52OluapPlayerThen that part is done
22:04.55XhoSuper Kitoruka
22:05.07ImpyDroidCharles_Murray: FINALLY WE ARE THE CAPITAL IN CIV VI
22:05.11ImpyDroidSUCK IT MOSCOW
22:06.13DrodoEmpire*insert loud, hyper-compressed audio of russian anthem here*
22:06.26Xhohyper compression
22:06.27Xhopls no
22:09.53ImpyDroidNot the Russian anthem, Petersburg's anthem in particular
22:10.11Charles_Murrayloooool
22:10.20ImpyDroidOr God save the Tsar
22:10.25ImpyDroidThis is a victory WITHIN Russia, of Petersburg over Moscow
22:10.44ImpyDroidIt kind of bothered me that Moscow was always Russia's capital in Civ
22:11.11ImpyDroidCatherine, Peter, and for the most part, Lenin all ruled from Petersburg
22:11.11OluapPlayerIsn't Moscow the capital of Russia though
22:11.31HachimanNON IT'S KIEV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:11.40ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Thing is, most Civ leaders for Russia ruled in Saint-Petersburg
22:11.50ImpyDroidWith the sole exception of Stalin
22:12.11ImpyDroidHachiman: Medieval Rus would make a cool civ but it wouldn't be Russia
22:12.15OluapPlayeridunno I'd also pick Moscow since it's the defacto capital city
22:12.29ImpyDroidWell doesn't Brazil start in Rio and not in Brasilia?
22:12.31ImpyDroidSame thing
22:12.50OluapPlayerIn Civ? I don't know
22:12.59ImpyDroidI think it starts in Rio
22:13.05DrodoEmpireYeah, it seems like sometimes games choose the biggest or best known city as opposed to the current capital for factions
22:13.06OluapPlayerWas Saint-Petersburg ever the capital?
22:13.13ImpyDroidFor two hundred years
22:13.35DrodoEmpireIt'd be like choosing Toronto or Montreal for the capital for a Canada civ because Ottawa is boring as shit <.<
22:13.36OluapPlayerOkay in that case it'd make sense to use it
22:13.42ImpyDroidBasically the entire period of the Russian Empire
22:14.05ImpyDroidAnd during the early Soviet era too
22:14.51ImpyDroidIt was moved back to Moscow mainly because with an independent Finland it would be too vulnerable
22:15.04DrodoEmpireMakes sense
22:15.20ImpyDroidWe were afraid to be fugged :DDDDDDDD
22:15.33DrodoEmpireayy lmao
22:16.51OluapPlayerwow
22:16.58OluapPlayerchanged the capital because they were afraid of spurdos
22:17.53ImpyDroidKeep in mind we fucking lost to spurdos once
22:18.09ImpyDroidThey are one of the few nations to ever have truly humiliated Russia
22:18.09HachimanXDDDD
22:18.16OluapPlayerrussia got de benis
22:18.22ImpyDroidThey are pretty ebin in battle
22:18.51ImpyDroidAlso spurdos could let someone else in
22:18.56ImpyDroidLike Germany
22:19.10ImpyDroidFinland was Nazi Germany's close ally
22:19.45OluapPlayeroh fug here com da nasis :ddd
22:20.50ImpyDroidActually AFAIK they actually joined in when the Nazis besieged Leningrad (which was how Saint-Petersburg was called back then(
22:22.06ImpyDroidSo they got to fug id :DDDDDDDD
22:22.11OluapPlayerhur
22:22.32Technobliteratorhaha le funny Xd
22:22.35Technobliteratoram I doing this right
22:23.43ImpyDroidNo that is rage comics
22:23.57ImpyDroidWe are talking in Finnish memespeak
22:24.04OluapPlayergross
22:24.05OluapPlayerpls go
22:27.23HachimanDDDDDD:
22:27.29ImpyDroidBut yeah, time to sing God Save the Tsar Saint-Petersburg has reclaimed its rightful place
22:30.04Xhoblease stob X--DDDDD
22:30.42Charles_MurrayYou know you can change the name of your capital, right?
22:30.44Charles_Murray:P
22:31.04Charles_MurrayI usually change the name of all of my cities to fantasy names
22:31.27Xhoinb4 paris
22:31.51XhoI had to say that otherwise that opportunity may have never come up again
22:32.10Charles_MurrayWell, no; When I play France I change the name away from Paris
22:32.14ImpyDroidCharles_Murray: Yeah I do
22:32.48ImpyDroidI remember changing the names of all my cities to "YOU GONNA BE FUCKED" when playing as Mongolia
22:32.51Charles_MurrayRussia looks like it's going to be a lot of fun
22:33.00ImpyDroidCOLONISE ALL THE CITIES
22:33.03Charles_MurrayIn terms of mechanics
22:33.06ImpyDroidALL THE CONTINENTS EVEN
22:33.26Xhosinbet snab x--DD
22:33.31ImpyDroidXho: http://arhivach.org/a_cimg/?h=ce6b4f773a035da697d34463e0b8616a
22:33.33XhoAw I messed that up
22:33.37Charles_MurrayI was a little disappointed with France's unique mechanics, I'm not sure why one of the most powerful land empires in world history consistently gets relegated to "that culture civ"
22:33.48Xhoebinaya rossiya
22:33.49Xhok den
22:34.12XhoOr should I say g den :DDDD
22:34.19ImpyDroidAnd we sent the first man to space and have epic operas but we remain a mostly military/colonial civilisation
22:34.40ImpyDroidIt is probably a matter of diversity
22:34.53Charles_MurrayRight, but there's a certain masculinity behind all of that xd
22:34.54Charles_MurrayxD*
22:35.06Charles_Murrayin terms of the operas and going into space
22:35.22ImpyDroidWe have enough European military civs and turning France into a military powerhouse would be... dunno... redundant
22:35.53Xhohttp://new4.fjcdn.com/pictures/Spurdo_6e5aeb_5477551.jpg Relevant to the discussion
22:35.56Charles_MurrayFrance is portrayed as effeminate >.< even when the civ leader is napoleon
22:36.08ImpyDroidWell why masculinity, Russia also was quite ahead of other nations in terms of women's rights during the early USSR
22:36.26ImpyDroidWe were the first to celebrate Women's Day I believe
22:36.38XhoOluapPlayer: Oh so that's where >imblygn came from
22:36.47OluapPlayerYes
22:36.57ImpyDroidCharles_Murray: Oh yes the leader choice for France in Civ V was so... weird
22:37.18ImpyDroidWhy take Napoleon then give him a set of royal abilities?
22:37.23Charles_Murray>fleur de lys
22:37.26Charles_Murray>light blue
22:37.29ImpyDroid>chateau
22:37.29Charles_Murray>napoleon
22:37.40Charles_Murray>wtf are all of these anachronisms
22:37.42ImpyDroid>musketeer
22:37.47Charles_Murray^
22:37.48MonetI've been exploring Sevastopol Station so I have just returned.
22:37.57ImpyDroidThey could as well have put Napoleon's BEEEEEES for the emblem
22:37.59Charles_MurrayIt really should have been Louis XIV
22:38.06Charles_MurrayOr the eagle
22:38.09Charles_Murraypls the eagle
22:38.34ImpyDroid>Symbol of immortality and resurrection, the bee was chosen so as to link the new dynasty to the very origins of France. Golden bees (in fact, cicadas) were discovered in 1653 in Tournai in the tomb of Childeric I, founder in 457 of the Merovingian dynasty and father of Clovis. They were considered as the oldest emblem of the sovereigns of France.
22:38.44ImpyDroidBut everyone has eagles
22:38.54ImpyDroidBEEEEEES are more unique
22:39.19ImpyDroid>Cambacérès preferred bees since France was a republic with a head, like a hive
22:39.35ImpyDroidHoly shit I can't get that image out of my head
22:42.41ImpyDroidI kind of want other Eastern European nations in Civ
22:42.48ImpyDroidWhy not Ukraine for examole
22:48.00DrodoEmpireYeah
22:48.10DrodoEmpireLithuania
22:48.13DrodoEmpireThe Cossacks
22:48.51DrodoEmpireTheodoro <.<
22:54.22MonetImpyDroid: So their cicadas rather than bees?
22:55.15MonetIt makes some sense considering this http://www.whatsthatbug.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cicada_molting_neanderpaul.jpg
23:05.02OluapPlayer[screams externally]
23:10.36MonetI think it's lovely

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