IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160806

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02:47.14Spluff5It's been a while
02:50.14DrodoEmpireHi
02:50.31DrodoEmpireYou came at a bad time >.< Its *really* late for most users
02:52.13Spluff5I finally finished the culture section for the Sanuran, now their page is almost complete.
02:53.21DrodoEmpireOh cool
02:58.07Spluff5How far into a species development as a spacefaring empire would you say is reasonable todiscover hyperspace?
03:08.18DrodoEmpireUh
03:08.18DrodoEmpireHm
03:08.22DrodoEmpireWell...
03:08.33DrodoEmpireThe thing is that the universe is *highly* connected
03:09.10DrodoEmpireIts far more likely and far more efficient to buy or learn of hyperdrives from an existing power, unless you're *that* isolated for some weird reason
03:27.50Spluff5Isolated in time, it takes place approx 200,000 years before most other stuff.
03:31.12DrodoEmpireRight, right
04:19.06Spluff5Do you know what current human year it is in the fiction?
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04:22.18The_RandomnessHello
04:24.35DrodoEmpireSpluff: 2811-2813
04:24.40DrodoEmpireDepends
05:32.34Spluff5I ask because I want to make my empire technologically on-par with the rest of the fiction so they can meaningfully participate and their age is a really key number.
05:33.01The_Randomnesswhat do you mean?
05:41.30Spluff5My empire goes into a cloaked Dyson sphere for 200,000 years for which most of the time they are in suspended animation. I'm wondering when I should have them wake up and start developing again within the sphere before emerging.
05:42.02The_Randomnesswhy would they do this?
05:44.39The_RandomnessAlso, why this long, and it's unlikely that anything would survive even a fraction of that amount of time without something going wrong with it
05:46.36Spluff5war
05:46.36Spluff5They do it it avoid a massive
05:47.10Spluff5It is maintained by robots that do maintenance and the like to keep to going
05:48.24The_RandomnessWell, at least you have that going for you, at least, but I'm still not sold on this.
05:48.52The_RandomnessWhy 200000 years just to hide themselves from an unspecified enemy?
05:52.20Spluff5The enemy is specified in a sort of "prequel" series. They are drastically more powerful than the Sanuran and so they don't really know what they are capable of and so decide to wait for a very long period while other races fight them.
05:54.22The_RandomnessWere they hostile before this, and did they know of the Sanurans?
05:56.30Spluff5They are discovered by the Sanurans by going through a wormhole that neither species was aware of. They then declare war on the Perseus Coalition which then rages for decade, with the Sanurans exiting the Coalition because of it and then going into hiding. The other species of the coalition continue to fight until the Vex are repeled.
05:56.41Spluff5Although, many go extinct in the process.
05:58.05Spluff5They destroy the wormhole so the Vex cannot come back, at least not until much later. This also works out well because me creating a new wormhole might interfere with existing canon.
05:58.17The_RandomnessWhy do they declare war?
05:58.43The_RandomnessActually, let me put this to the side for a moment
05:59.18The_RandomnessThe entire idea of contriving your fiction into "being on par with the rest of fiction" does not seem like a good way of going about this
05:59.40Spluff5To conquer and expand their empire to plunder the resources of space they had previously not explored. The vex spread like a virus rather than like a colonising/conquering empire.
06:01.14Spluff5What would you propose?
06:03.09The_RandomnessWhat I'm trying to say is that you should not even think about relative power going in, since it distracts from worldbuilding
06:04.09Spluff5OK...?
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06:05.14The_RandomnessAnd, honestly, focusing on relative power like this almost always comes off as "hey look, I'm powerful and/or relevant!"
06:05.32The_RandomnessNot that what you're doing here necessarily comes off as that
06:06.21Tek0516Hello
06:06.26Spluff5Hi
06:06.28The_RandomnessHello
06:06.33DrodoEmpireEhh, this isn't a *terrible* idea
06:06.40DrodoEmpireIts different, for sure
06:06.43DrodoEmpireBut interesting
06:06.50The_Randomnessyeah, it's better than what I normally see
06:07.01DrodoEmpireAnd we shouldn't look down on fiction merely for being unconventional :p
06:07.06The_RandomnessI understand that
06:07.23The_RandomnessAt least it doesn't invoke magical precursor races or anything like that
06:07.35The_RandomnessBut I am a hardass when it comes to things like this
06:07.39Spluff5I just want to actually be able to interact with other empires in the future. The bulk of the worldbuilding is being done in a time period before they even existed though.
06:08.20The_RandomnessThe idea of a nation waking up to a completely different world is interesting
06:08.53The_RandomnessBut with the level of technology you're implying here, I don't think technology will be a concern
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06:12.59Spluff5Blip
06:13.06Spluff5Did I miss anything?
06:13.13The_RandomnessI don't think so
06:13.41DrodoEmpireRight, well, don't be a such a hardass Random :p
06:13.57DrodoEmpireI don't see anything terribly wrong with the idea, to be honest, though I've skimmed
06:14.15Spluff5I may have thought of a solution to the extreme time hibernating.
06:14.27DrodoEmpireHm?
06:15.21DrodoEmpireI mean, yeah, 200k years is a very long time, but I'm sure a true achievment of engineering could produce such a thing especially if its maintained by a race or a group of robots
06:16.15Spluff5They set the wake-up timer for maybe a couple hundred years. But the robots left to tend the sphere of course have the ability to produce more robots. They evolve and become more advanced, realizing that when the wake-up occurs they will all shutdown
06:16.27DrodoEmpireHuh
06:16.47DrodoEmpireSo what you're saying is that in the interests of self-preservation this race of machines keeps their masters waiting?
06:16.53DrodoEmpireThat's... Actually a really cool idea
06:17.02Spluff5So they indefinitely postpone the wakeup. Until they actually have evolved enough to realise that they can co-exist with the Sanurans and so wake them up.
06:17.04Spluff5Yeah
06:17.25DrodoEmpireOr perhaps through the generations they forget? Either or I guess
06:17.30Spluff5I could do a whole episode about whether they are "alive" and can be considered "sentient".
06:17.34DrodoEmpireHell maybe even die out
06:18.11Spluff5Kind of like the Measure of a Man episode of Star Trek TNG
06:18.15Spluff5I love that episode
06:18.17The_Randomnessanyway, I'm off for now
06:18.19The_Randomnessbye guys
06:18.34Spluff5Night. Thanks for your help
06:18.55DrodoEmpireAnyway, its really late where I am
06:19.09DrodoEmpireI should seriously get some sleep, so I'll leave the channel open but I can't talk anymore
06:19.10DrodoEmpireSorry
06:19.15Spluff5Ok
06:19.17DrodoEmpireIts a really really cool idea though
06:19.22Spluff5How do you leave it open?
06:19.24DrodoEmpireI encourage you to keep working on it
06:19.30DrodoEmpireJust switch my nick
06:19.33Spluff5Mine cuts out when I close my computer
06:19.40DrodoAwayOr rather
06:19.45DrodoSleepDone
06:19.55Spluff5I have to reconnect when I close my screen
06:20.06Spluff5Do you use some sort of client?
06:20.17DrodoSleepNo, I'll just leave it open :p
06:20.42DrodoSleepDespite that there's a decent chance I'll disconnect at some point, but not for a few hours at least
06:20.53DrodoSleepdrop me a private message if you want, I can respond in the morning
06:20.58DrodoSleepWith that I'm off
06:23.34Spluff5KK
06:25.45AdmiralPandaholy shit I'm still connected after two days
06:27.23Spluff5Lol
06:27.43Spluff5We were discussing the sentience of robots
06:35.57Tek0516I accidentally dropped a 10L bag of ice cream mix at work today. >.> That was a mess.
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10:40.34MonetHello
10:53.50MonetI got into thinking last night after a trip to London about portraying how for much of the Imperium, Alcanti is this poncy paradise world where all the 0.001 percenters live who wonder how the rest of the Imperium suffers without all the luxuries Alcantites have.
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11:00.55ImpyDroid2Monet: I imagine some protectorate worlds must suck a lot
11:01.23MonetThose might be some of the most extreme.
11:01.55ImpyDroid2Pax Draconica may bring a lot of foreign goods but I can totally imagine Draconis slowly displacing the locals- not via population, but economically and culturally
11:02.10ImpyDroid2*not demographically
11:02.47MonetBecause of how hands-off the Imperial government is, I'm sure if you go deep enough into some of them you'll get people who are unaware the paragon they think is in charge has been dead for a while.
11:03.01MonetOr have no clue who the chancellor is.
11:04.46MonetI guess while Pax Draconica does in theory protect cultural values, in practice it doesn't completely stop cultural assimilation.
11:04.48ImpyDroid2"May God bless and keep the Paragon... far away from us!"
11:06.44MonetMaybe provincial governments have to deal with independence groups who think they don't need Alcanti to prosper.
11:12.54MonetActually I wonder if much of the population would be offended/confused when foreigners talk or act like all the Imperium's people act like the Draocnid aristocracy.
11:20.15dromAgh, wormy is not here
11:20.17dromI'm sad
11:20.38dromBesides, I've met an internet friend of mine two days ago
11:20.44dromFirst time doing that
11:21.09Monetcool
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12:28.42JepardiHi
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12:39.13Wormy_hi
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12:50.08MonetHi
13:02.05OluapPlayerhi
13:07.18Wormy_hello
13:39.36MonetWhen I was in London yesterday something interesting happened. I was waring this outfit made up of a sky blue shirt, black waistcoat, black trousers, and I must have been approached at least four times travelling the Underground by people who must have thought I was staff.
13:42.37Wormy_Yeah when I did my field trip to the Roaches last year, whenever I wore my hard hat beneath the rocks people mistook me as somekind safety officer
13:42.44Wormy_or expert
13:44.04Wormy_One man guiding a tour asked me if it was safe to bring his tour under the cliffs.  So I decided to pretend I was a safety officer and told him that sinbce it had been raining, the rocks could be more unstable
13:44.53MonetLol
13:44.55Wormy_Then this father with his kid brought me to this circular mark in obe of the rocks and I pointed out it was probably where a miltstone was cut out
13:45.08MonetThe odd thing is a lot of tube staff didn't wear what I was wearing.
13:45.28Wormy_And then I had numereous people asking me geological questions as I was doing my work
13:45.45Wormy_Its because you looked like a person of authority
13:46.41MonetProbably a supervisor.
13:46.54Wormy_I think my long yellow notebook and tools added to the persona
13:46.58MonetA lot of tube staff were wearing bold blue t-shirts.
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13:58.29Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/7lY3l
13:59.39Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/tBzOv6Y
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14:14.52HachimanHi
14:15.51HachimanFoster kid's gone missing after deciding he was gonna try to go to London to see Millwall F.C. play on his own
14:16.03HachimanSo today's been, and is probably going to keep being, a little hectic
14:18.11OluapPlayerOh shit
14:19.50HachimanPolice have been called, foster agency has been informed; kid made a run for the local train station while my parents were sorting out two younger kids, my stepdad managed to get there before him and ensure that the people at the ticket booths wouldn't sell him anything
14:20.34HachimanHe came back home and threatened to kick our front door down, threatened to steal the TV we had in the room he was staying in, and then made another runner
14:20.35HachimanPolice have been called, foster agency has been informed; kid made a run for the local train station while my parents were sorting out two younger kids, my stepdad managed to get there before him and ensure that the people at the ticket booths wouldn't sell him anything
14:21.56HachimanHe's been staying with us for around six weeks, taken him out to see movies and stuff around town, as well as stuff outside of town, and gave him a room with a TV in when his original place wouldn't let him yet he still feels justified to treat us like shit and try going to London
14:22.27OluapPlayerWow, what a fucking cunt
14:22.42OluapPlayerWhy do you have to foster this kid?
14:23.08HachimanBecause my parents signed up to the foster agency due to being too crippled to work in the police anymore
14:23.42HachimanAnd because no other foster parents will take him due to his record of previous incidents as well as the fact his school takes two hours to get to and more to get back
14:24.05OluapPlayerNo wonder no one wants him
14:25.31MonetHow old is he?
14:25.58Hachiman12, with the mentality of a 6 year old
14:26.15HachimanLikely autistic and has clear behavioural and hearing problems
14:27.13HachimanHe took drugs at a young age because he comes from a scummy councilite family somewhere in London where his mother, father, and older brother all took drugs
14:28.33MonetAh
14:28.59MonetI suppose that explains a number of his issues.
14:29.59HachimanI'm fairly convinced it is in his nature to be a little fuck though and 12 is when the hormones start to kick in as far as I know
14:31.25HachimanTypical councilite football thug kid who thinks he's tougher than he actually is; he is fairly convinced that people are scared of him, which could tie in to why he likes to hang around younger children since it'd be easy for him to tell them what to do or dominate them
14:32.27HachimanHe actually raised a hand to hit my younger nephew the other day and also tried to get one of the other foster kids we have to flinch by pretending to punch him in the face while they were eating
14:33.14OluapPlayerIt'd detest to share a house with a kid like that
14:34.17HachimanSo do my parents; they've been looking for ways to get him transported to another family but no one is willing to take him and the agency keeps pressuring us to have him
14:35.04MonetA problem case through-and-through
14:35.19HachimanMy parents earn a healthy bunch of cash from it granted but all that money just inevitably goes into feeding the children and taking them out on day trips anyway so there's little, if any, actual profit
14:35.48MonetThat's ideally what the money is for.
14:36.08HachimanWell yeah of course, but still
14:36.21HachimanThe little profit that is actually gained is not worth this kid's shit
14:40.35MonetNot sure what to suggest.
14:42.03MonetGetting a kid like that to behave is...hard.
14:42.46HachimanWell, it's up to the police to find him now and for the agency to deal with him because my parents have made it clear that he's not to come back if he continued to threaten theft and property damage
14:43.36HachimanI've had to hide the TV under my bed and I'm being made to listen out for the door in case he decides to come back and try kicking it down to get his stuff and such
14:44.10HachimanIt's not that we denied him his stuff; he just up and left without taking anything other than the clothes on his back and his pocket money - all £20 of it
14:46.43OluapPlayerWait I thought he had already come back
14:47.02OluapPlayerOr is this the second time he escapes?
14:47.18HachimanTechnically the third since he tried this last week
14:47.31OluapPlayerJesus christ
14:47.35OluapPlayerThrow him the TRASH
14:47.45OluapPlayerin the TRASH even
14:47.55HachimanHe escaped the first time today when my parents were distracted with the other kids they were looking after and then he was brought back and escaped again
14:47.58OluapPlayerThrowing trash at him may also sound good
14:48.09HachimanSo he's still missing
14:48.44OluapPlayer"oops the kid fled guess we cant take care of him anymore huh [shrug shrug shrug]"
14:48.53Hachimanhur
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14:50.01MonetHi
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14:51.38MonetA number of these council-house brats are aware that it's no longer legal to spank children.
14:51.57HachimanIndeed; we're not allowed to lock them in their rooms or restrain them
14:52.13HachimanWe have to let them leave if they want to leave and then call he agency so they can inform the police
14:52.56OluapPlayerpermission to destroy child          granted
14:58.15Wormy_Hachiman:  I'd padlock my rom
14:58.17Wormy_*room
14:58.57Wormy_But still, you shouldn't have to
15:00.26Wormy_What?  Did dogooders ban smacking?
15:00.33MonetAges ago
15:00.34Wormy_Fuck sake
15:00.49OluapPlayerJesus wormy get out of that rock
15:01.05MonetAt least I think they did
15:01.19OluapPlayerSmacking children has been outlawed over the world years ago
15:01.25Wormy_A smack from my Dad saved me from serious harm once, I hate to think he'd get in troubke for that these days
15:01.43OluapPlayerI don't believe violence against children helps them in any way
15:01.53OluapPlayerExcept in the most extreme of cases. Like Hachi's foster kid
15:01.58OluapPlayerI'd have smacked his teeth off
15:02.02Wormy_More like a full on slap
15:02.09MonetAccording to legislation, you can smack a child, but you can't hit them hard enough that it leaves a mark.
15:02.59Wormy_I was three and I picked up a broken glass bottle with liquid in it to drink (it had glass shards in it), he knocked it out my hand and cut my lip.  But it saved my life potentially
15:03.06OluapPlayerI was beaten a lot as a kid, and I'm inclined to believe it's one of the reasons I'm such an introvert
15:03.44MonetWormy_: Not sure if that counts as smacking.
15:03.58Wormy_I only believe in smacking in the most extreme situations, like if they do something potentially dangerous
15:04.18Wormy_Wasn't really smacking though, but he did knoc me over and cut my lip
15:04.28Wormy_Avsolutrely necessary though
15:05.03OluapPlayerI was not allowed to get out, play or talk to others. I spent a chunk of my childhood afraid of my parents
15:05.10OluapPlayerI don't like the thought of others going through the same
15:05.30Wormy_I don't believe in beating kids or animals
15:05.45MonetOluapPlayer: I'd say your introversion is perhaps the fault of your parents.
15:05.53OluapPlayerAnimals even less, they're not sapient and can't understand your reasons
15:06.08OluapPlayerViolence just leads to more violence
15:08.24OluapPlayerThe talk about the broken bottle reminded me of one thing from my childhood
15:09.07OluapPlayerOnce I tried to climb a rather tall wardrobe to get a doll and the insides fell on top of me
15:09.20OluapPlayerMy luck was there was a bed on the floor which cushioned my fall
15:09.31Wormy_Ouch
15:10.04Wormy_I fell headfirst out of my bunkbed once, and was knocked out cold
15:10.08OluapPlayerI must've been like 6 or 7 at the time
15:10.16Wormy_I had one when I was a kid
15:10.42Wormy_Though I bounced off a wall which cushioned it slightly
15:11.16MonetIf this foster child acts like a tough guy like Hachi describes, he's probably been brought up through peer pressure to be aggressive - toughen up or die.
15:11.53Wormy_He might well have been beaten
15:11.59OluapPlayerIf the bed wasn't there I could've hurt my spine probably
15:12.15OluapPlayerBut instead I was just left with a bruise from the part of the wardrobe that fell on me
15:12.29OluapPlayerA bruise on the crotch                thing nearly hit me in the twiddle diddles
15:13.34Wormy_fuck
15:13.35MonetOuchie
15:14.25OluapPlayerthat would have been the end of me
15:14.27HachimanJesus
15:14.32OluapPlayerFuck that stupid Pikachu doll
15:14.35OluapPlayerIt was all its fault
15:14.49Wormy_I still think the local bobby sahould be allowed to give scummy hoodlums a good spanking like the olden days
15:15.17Wormy_if caught vandalising things or threatening people or smashing bottles
15:15.36HachimanThing is right, if we are forced to keep him here
15:15.44Wormy_Breing back the stocks and public humilation too
15:15.44HachimanI'm likely babysitting him on my birthday
15:16.04HachimanBecause my stepdad needs back surgery and my mum wants to go with him for support
15:16.44Wormy_Sorry about that, do you have anyne who can help you on your birthday?
15:18.04HachimanNot really, but I honestly doubt he'll stay here after today
15:18.12HachimanLikely gonna be taken into police protection
15:18.24OluapPlayerput the little shit under arrest
15:18.41Wormy_I wonder if he's doing this on purpose, you know.  Causes as much trouble as he can in each home he ends up in
15:18.45HachimanHe is
15:18.46Wormy_so to get out
15:18.55Wormy_He could have authority issues
15:18.57HachimanThing is, there's no other places for him
15:19.26HachimanHe's deluded himself into thinking that social workers and foster carers *serve* him and do things to appease him
15:20.01HachimanLike, he once spoke to my mum about me and said that he doesn't like me very much because "I don't do anything for him"
15:20.33Wormy_I think he needs an upbringing designed to work with his psychological issues - a difficult thing with institiionilised people
15:20.41OluapPlayerPfff
15:20.56HachimanIf he had struck my nephew the other day though, I'm fairly certain he'd have ended up with a criminal record at the end of the day because my sister's not going to let her children get hurt without consequence from a kid who, as he's over 10 years old, should be reprimanded for his actions by the law
15:21.13Wormy_yeah
15:21.53OluapPlayerI AM THE LAW
15:22.12HachimanWe actually had a P.O. in my house today to investigate rooms and such because of this
15:22.26HachimanWhich is embarrassing because my parents work for the same police force he does
15:23.45OluapPlayerReminds me of the time my dad (a cop) took us to travel, drove drunk and got stopped by other cops in the road
15:23.54OluapPlayerNever questioned the event but I bet it was embarassing
15:24.10HachimanI can imagine
15:24.22OluapPlayerHe deserved it though and still does
15:24.28HachimanAlso fuck your dad for driving drunk
15:24.31Wormy_Did he get away with it?  If you mind me asking.
15:24.48OluapPlayerHe must have since the cops let us go
15:25.00MonetWish I could share but I've never seen any of my dad's co-workers.
15:25.02Wormy_Sounds quite corrupt imo
15:25.03OluapPlayerBut he still does it today. Drinks like a madman and drives
15:25.36OluapPlayerHell the main reason for my parents's divorce is because of how much of an alcoholic he is
15:25.48HachimanNow I can see why you don't like people drinking
15:26.12OluapPlayerYeah living 18 years with an alcoholic smoker isn't very nice
15:26.16MonetOkay yeah. Things re clearer now.
15:26.21OluapPlayerEspecially when he was in a bad mood
15:26.33Wormy_Well their drinking socially.  And then there's drinking as a habit
15:26.48Wormy_*there's
15:27.13HachimanI've manage to give myself a bit of limitation since I don't often drink at home anymore; I restrict myself to soda and stuff
15:27.26OluapPlayerMy dad must be 50% blood 50% beer
15:27.34OluapPlayereven the divorce didn't change his habits
15:27.55HachimanYou know it actually takes around a 4% alcohol content in your bloodstream to prove fatal
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15:28.58HachimanFuck knows how you can manage to do that; I reached approximately 2% once on Christmas Eve and it was not pleasant
15:29.17OluapPlayeru drunk shit i dont like u anymore
15:29.37HachimanWell, to be fair, I don't drive
15:29.55Wormy_If I'll be honest my liver has been aching lately if I drink too much.  Can't tell if its psychosomatic as I suffer fake ailments a lot from anxiety
15:30.01HachimanAnd I consider myself passive and responsible enough not to put other people at risk
15:30.38Wormy_>Alements lol
15:31.51OluapPlayerMy dad has become a much calmer person after the divorce. But he still drunk-drives, which is the reason I usually don't spend holidays with him
15:32.11OluapPlayerBecause I know he's gonna get piss-drunk and drive at a million miles per hour and leave me at the edge of my seat
15:32.43OluapPlayerHe's the kind of guy who drunk-drives and gets mad at the other drivers for getting in his way while doing it
15:32.48MonetI'll drink wine when dining, but rarely ever more than a glass.
15:35.20Wormy_I've been rather good this week, I've had three beers, but only one per night
15:36.23Wormy_Monet:  My mother got you to knock down that beer at my show though
15:36.46MonetI'm a social drinker.
15:37.03MonetAnyone who offers me a drink makes me think "so shall I?"
15:37.29Wormy_"Get it dahn yA" I was chuckling to myself
15:37.39MonetI'm a slow drinker.
15:38.26Wormy_I prefer drinking with people too.  In fact it makes me more sociable and friendly in RL
15:38.35Wormy_It can be beneficial
15:43.24Wormy_I like wine too, with food
15:43.34Wormy_Can't booze on it, just makes one tired
15:45.36Wormy_Is this the most dickish moment in Olympic sport or what?  http://i.imgur.com/uMQZfC9.jpg
15:45.52Wormy_Guy was on his way to victory when that man pushed him
15:46.35OluapPlayerFucking irish
15:46.38OluapPlayerI blame Cyrannian
15:47.19MonetI'm not sure that is an Irishman.
15:49.34Wormy_Apparently it was
15:50.28Wormy_A religuous preacher with a histiory of spoiling events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Horan
15:51.04MonetOh.
15:51.30MonetShows how much I know about the gy
15:53.10Wormy_I only just read about him hur
15:53.24Monethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Horan#/media/File:Silverstone_horan.jpg does he want to die?
15:54.33Wormy_He thinks the end is nigh anyway
15:55.30Wormy_Often when I watch le Tour you get idiots running along the side of the riders
15:55.46Wormy_Last Year people spat on Team Sky and someone poured urine on Froome
15:56.47MonetEww
15:57.49Wormy_They didn't get that abuse this year.  I think the French media accused Team Sky of cheating last year, but last year Froome stood up and told the French nation he respected the sport and France
16:02.09HachimanSo, update; kid has been found at a carnival in my town, he was unsuccessful in travelling to London and is now in police custody
16:03.02Monet20 quid won't get him far to London
16:03.39Wormy_Lol
16:05.33HachimanI consider myself a slow drinker, but I can down a rum and cola like nobody's business
16:05.44OluapPlayerGonna play ME again
16:05.47OluapPlayerIt's been a while
16:05.50Wormy_Does he stay in police custody now until your parents decide  what to do or is he returned immediately?
16:05.50Monet£15 is about the price of a one-way ticket from where I live to London.
16:06.18Wormy_rum and coke is a deceptive drink
16:06.44Wormy_I can down my drink quickly but I prefer to drink slowly for the taste
16:06.44HachimanWormy_: Not sure, the agency is insisting that he comes back to our place but my parents both argue against it because he does not want to be here and they do not want him here
16:07.33Wormy_I think your parents are in the right
16:08.50HachimanMonet: Find an excuse to come to Hastings and I'll treat you to our rock & roll and metal bars
16:09.27Wormy_If I'm ever in Hastings or near it, I'll message you
16:09.53HachimanI am also inclined to buy rounds more often than I should hur
16:10.35Wormy_Same if you ever come to Nottinghamshire or Derbyshire.  Nottingham has rock and metal bars, rock city, old pubs and punk-pubs
16:10.56HachimanThat's up north isn't it?
16:11.19Wormy_East Midlands / North zone of confusion, but yes
16:12.45Wormy_This pub dates to 1189 http://nightlifedirectory.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ye-olde-trip-to-jerusalem.jpg
16:13.40Hachiman"Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem"
16:14.02Wormy_Parts may date back to  947 AD
16:15.17HachimanThere's a pub in my town which claims to be haunted by a pair of ghosts - a ghastly lady with shining blue eyes who walks the corridors and a little girl who plays in her bedroom upstairs - and has a pair of dead, mummified century-old cats on its wall
16:16.39Wormy_I think I've read about that pub in Fortean Times
16:16.49Wormy_At least a pub with a mummified cat anyway
16:20.37MonetCool
16:21.43Wormy_Type in "The black cat of killakee"
16:22.01Wormy_I'm not, it gives me the spoiks
16:22.35Wormy_Someone painted a demonic cat they saw in an Irish inn, which is now hung on the wall
16:23.25Wormy_flight or fright http://imgur.com/gallery/TV5kz
16:32.58Wormy_*fight or
16:33.03Wormy_I messed up
16:33.10Wormy_Fight or flight
16:35.17Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/tQXnJ
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16:39.57Hachimanolol dat deer
16:39.59HachimanHi Drodo
16:42.38DrodoEmpireHi
16:42.40Wormy_deer memes are great
16:43.39Wormy_hi
16:44.46Wormy_Monet:  http://imgur.com/gallery/PnNio
16:53.03MonetA few colours can do wonders
16:53.23MonetExcess can make things look untidy
17:30.01Wormy_"students have even been told to be careful how they write the mathematical plus sign in case it is mistaken for a crucifix." http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697138/Kim-Jong-un-bans-crucifix-as-officials-raid-shops-looking-for-cross-in-North-Korea
17:30.16Wormy_Then again, it *is* the Express
17:32.17DrodoEmpireI wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this were true
17:33.09Wormy_That too
17:35.06DrodoEmpireAnti-Christian sentiment has a long history in East asia, and state-enforced atheism is common in communist regimes
17:35.35DrodoEmpireChina persecutes its Christians as well, to this day
17:38.58MonetTHe Express is just bonkers.
17:39.14MonetI keep imagining their headlines to be something some local lunatic shouts in the streets.
17:40.41DrodoEmpire"Its from this source I dislike! Therefore, it must be wrong!"
17:40.42DrodoEmpire:p
17:40.53Wormy_The Sun is what you'd expect at a BNP fair
17:41.05DrodoEmpireI mean, what're they? Some dumb tabloid or what?
17:41.15Wormy_A dumb tabloid
17:41.22DrodoEmpireRight
17:42.08Wormy_The Sun, the Daily Mail and the Daily Express are generally the worst
17:42.30MonetDrodoEmpire: Well more it doesn't sound like a reputable source.
17:42.38DrodoEmpireRight, right
18:16.06DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/B0Tx9qy.jpg
18:17.07DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/OzviLHK.jpg
18:24.54AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: I lel'd
18:25.10AdmiralPandanow where's this woman's address? I sense ethnic cleansing is necessary
18:27.13MonetThis might be a guy.
18:27.42Hachiman"Oblivion is 10 years old, so the amount of work for that engine and that tech to bring it and remaster it and do all the things we wanted to do was significant. It's not impossible, but it was mountainous. It was either like, go make an entire new game or do Skyrim. It just seemed to be a much closer path. It was the most successful game that we had ever done before Fallout 4, so it already had a huge audience."
18:27.58HachimanThat's Bethesda's justification for remastering Skyrim rather than any of the previous games
18:28.39HachimanIn essence; they remastered Skyrim because much less work and could afford to be lazy because they knew it'd sale anyway
18:30.41MonetIt worked.
18:32.33MonetWait let me rephrase.
18:33.42MonetI see your cynicism but Skyrim is far more popular in terms of numbers than Oblivion.
18:35.02MonetI see it as a smart balance. Game developer work is normally borderline sweatshop work anyway.
18:38.45MonetThing is they're not getting maximum profit from this anyway as the remaster is free for anyone who already has Skyrim.
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19:46.19Charles_BotHey
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21:12.09DrodoEmpireOh cool
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21:39.23LaptopPandahi all
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21:50.06Quark8Hello.
21:53.15MonetHi
22:00.55MonetGoing to do some creature design in Maya if anyone wants to watch http://tinyurl.com/pqmtlqk
22:06.07XhoMonet: So when's it starting
22:06.33Monet10 minutes
22:09.41MonetOr I would if Maya was working
22:17.24MonetXho: WHat streaming software were you using?
22:17.48XhoXSplit
22:20.25MonetHmm, might have to do a normal photoshop stream
22:21.12MonetI'm getting a white box
22:21.24MonetRather than what's in my viewport.
22:26.59Monethttp://tinyurl.com/pqmtlqk it's unfortunately going to be photshop tonight.
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22:29.40DrodoEmpireHi everyone
22:30.27Wormy_awayDanzaDelMondo:  How do they justify "neo-fascist"?
22:30.41Wormy_awayoh he's gone
22:33.08Wormy_awaySo I watched the 2014 Godzilla.  Instead of throwing planes at Mothra, why didn't they just fire ballistic missiles at a safe radius?
22:33.40Wormy_awaydoesn't look like it would have worked but better than nothing
22:37.02MonetBallistic missiles aren't too great against moving targets
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22:53.29Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/UP5eQ
22:54.57Spluff5Are any of you guys particle physicsy?
22:55.38XhoGhelae's probably the best user for that
22:56.07Wormy_awayI know a little bit, but yeah he's the resident physicist
23:04.08Wormy_Soviet sci-fi aesthetics http://io9.gizmodo.com/how-soviet-artists-imagined-communist-life-in-space-1558140402
23:04.52ImpyDroid<Strugatsky intensifies>
23:05.59XhoSomething music album-like about those
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23:23.25Wormy_ImpyDroid::  Oh ImpyDroid, this religion from China sounds like an analogue to Abrahamic religions:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_salvationist_religions
23:23.37Wormy_hi
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23:34.56DrodoEmpireHuh cool
23:35.31Spluff5It actually has invisible legs
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