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00:00.18Charles_MurrayThat depends on what you mean
00:00.44Charles_MurrayA common word is autocracy, but that doesn't really mean very much
00:01.13Charles_MurrayOH
00:01.26Charles_MurrayWait, you mean lowly citizens as in a caste or a class?
00:01.54HellrockI didn't really mean that.
00:01.57Charles_MurrayWould oligarchy work? Aristocracy?
00:01.58HellrockJust any citizen
00:03.00Charles_MurrayWell, there's tons of government forms which don't have regular citizens (however defined) participate in government. How is power managed in your fiction?
00:03.33HellrockI think either Monocracy, Aristocracy, or dictatorship fit best.
00:03.43DanzaDelMondoOligarchy
00:03.48DanzaDelMondoActually wait
00:04.06DanzaDelMondoHow much power does the ruler have?
00:04.23DanzaDelMondoLike how much does he depend on the elites, the rich, the nobles, whatever
00:04.33HellrockWell, not a single ruler, but a federal government.
00:04.58MonetSo a federation where the general public has no say in politics.
00:05.07HellrockFrom what I've heard, oligarchy means to have equally-ranked people overpower the main ruler.
00:05.11Charles_MurrayWho is more powerful, the system or the people within it?
00:05.17HellrockThe system.
00:05.35MonetAn oligarchy is a small number of powerful people having control over the government
00:06.03HellrockMonet : Ah, ok.
00:06.08Charles_MurrayTechnocracy?
00:07.14DanzaDelMondoRight so it is a federal government then
00:07.24DanzaDelMondoSo it definitely cannot be an autrocracy then
00:07.30DanzaDelMondoWho are the ruling class?
00:07.40DanzaDelMondoAre they like nobles, or just the richest guys in the club?
00:09.08HellrockWell, a citizen can slowly rise to a senator. But only the higher-ranking authorities can vote and have control.
00:09.27HellrockIt's a work in progress.
00:09.33Charles_MurrayDanzaDelMondo : You can have a federal autocracy
00:09.49Charles_MurrayThat's a republic
00:09.51DanzaDelMondoCharles_Murray: Actually wait yes
00:09.57DanzaDelMondoUAE
00:09.59DanzaDelMondoForgot about it
00:10.03Charles_MurrayOf the Roman kind
00:12.02Charles_MurrayThe Roman Senate acted more as a pool for citizens with administrative, military, or leadership skills, while the highest ranking and eldest Senators were the only ones with any real power (due to how the Senate worked procedurally).
00:13.49DanzaDelMondoHelrock: Hm
00:13.52DanzaDelMondoSo a bit like the USSR then?
00:14.14DanzaDelMondoWhere there's a ruling hierarchy with the guys on top selecting the ultimate top guy amongst themselvesx
00:14.19DanzaDelMondoYeah like the USSR
00:14.26DanzaDelMondoOligarchy it is then
00:14.30DanzaDelMondoUSSR was an oligarchy
00:18.37HellrockI'm starting to think of a corporatism.
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03:35.33The_RandomnessCharles_Murray: Have you seen my suggestion for how the Federation might've come around on the collabverse pad chat yet?
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11:45.38Wormy_hi
11:46.51SquanderedSonHey hows it going.
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11:51.02SquanderedSonHey
11:52.58Wormy_10 Children Raised By Animals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPMBuNOKhVQ
11:53.52Wormy_It sounds as though most of them were cared for and had more freedom in animal societies than human ones, as bad as it is to say they were better off without
11:56.23SquanderedSonI have a name for a little fictional empire I have an idea for called "The Liberal Gremlor Ascendancy" hows it sound to you guys? Too far fetched or fancy?
11:57.18GhelaeDon't put the word "The" in the page title. But as to the name itself, I don't see anything wrong with it.
11:57.43SquanderedSonyeah I wasn't planning too
11:58.00HachimanWhat does "Ascendancy" refer to?
11:58.48MonetWormy_: Differences in culture probably.
11:59.26SquanderedSonIt is basically a fancy word for having power. The reason I use the word ascendancy is because the Gremlor race is basically run by a communist government.
11:59.54HachimanAh
12:00.11MonetWas going to say that modern life is comfortable but highly stressful but humans - especially in less well-off ocuntries - tend to treat people who don't act 'normal' as insane and will lock them in asylums or exploit them.
12:00.45SquanderedSonSo it mirrors the ideal of being something special, even though, as you will know, communist societies don't tend to work out well lol
12:01.01SquanderedSonso it's basically like a pride sort of thing.
12:01.13Wormy_Quite a lot of them seemed to end up rotting or dying in asylums, enslaved or forced to beg or go into prostitution.
12:02.16Ghelae"Ascendancy" has been used in the fictionverse before (e.g. United Bygorian Ascendancy), so it's not as though it's an unprecedentedly terrible name for a nation.
12:03.20MonetWormy_: Although then agai nsome of these kids were found with a lot of scars.
12:05.36SquanderedSonAh ok, good, although I might change it due to all the ultra terrestrial stuff.
12:06.06SquanderedSonI don't want to confuse anyone in that regard.
12:06.22MonetThese wolfboys were probably competing for when they could tuck in to the pack's kills.
12:07.20MonetSquanderedSon: Ascendancy tends to have more spiritual/religious overtone sbut your choice ultimately
12:08.05SquanderedSonYeah that's what I was thinking.
12:08.26SquanderedSon"Liberal Gremlor Union" Would probably be better
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13:42.02DrodoEmpireHi everyone
13:58.30MonetHello
14:01.06Wormy_Do you think its worth trading in old PS2 games?
14:01.20HachimanNah
14:01.24Wormy_I think I will struggle to find a shiop that will do that
14:01.36HachimanKeep them though, they might be worth something in a few decades
14:01.54Wormy_Hm, my room in desperately filling up with old crap
14:02.03Wormy_Thats true though
14:03.00Wormy_Maybe I'll be allowed to put things in the loft, not that I have ever been given that opportunity, which is unfair.
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14:33.37HachimanHi
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14:54.41HachimanSo apparently there is another mass shooting going on in Orlando
14:55.11HachimanA gunman on the loose has so far shot three people, including a four-year old
14:57.03Wormy_Damn, I might be wrong because of the way the media portrays this stuff, but the disease of mass shooting/domestic terroism seems to be on the rise on the West
14:57.34Wormy_It really needs sorting out
14:58.08DrodoEmpirePerhaps if the media stopped overreporting this, and we prioritized mental health. :L
14:58.11DrodoEmpireAnyway
14:58.34Wormy_Mental health, and I would also argue more gun control.
14:59.02Wormy_I understand it makes Americans feel like they are losing their old right of freedom, but times have changed
14:59.04DrodoEmpireI'd sooner not get into a gun control debate, but mass-shootings didn't happen like this in the 70s, and plenty of people had guns back then
14:59.23DrodoEmpireIt isn't the weapons that're the issue, its society, and its the media
14:59.27DrodoEmpireThat's how I see it
14:59.36Wormy_Times have changed, and so must policies along with the public consciousness
14:59.43HachimanYeah, I'm not going to get into this other than I feel there should be universal, tighter background checks in place
14:59.52DrodoEmpire"Times have changed" is the most vague thing I've ever heard
14:59.52Wormy_But I agree, its not just guns.
14:59.59DrodoEmpireHow? I can tell you how and its not with guns
15:00.08DrodoEmpireIts with overreporting and bad mental health
15:00.08Wormy_Well it clearly has, hasn't it
15:00.13Wormy_You said it yourself
15:00.31Wormy_Americans who don't want gun control cling to a very old feeling they have
15:00.32DrodoEmpireI did, and I also said it had little to do with the instrument people choose to use
15:00.45DrodoEmpireYou said that and I disagree
15:00.57Wormy_And that is selfish in my opinion, a feeling that allows children to die all the time
15:01.11Wormy_I'm not saying "muh ban guns" btw
15:01.18Wormy_It needs to be tighter
15:01.26DrodoEmpireI know but you're still using a vague emotional argument and that's really stupid
15:01.28DrodoEmpire:p
15:01.30Wormy_To stop fucking nutcases getting hold of weapons of war
15:01.34HachimanI would say that there should be tighter gun laws not because of the nature of the instruments but because it is clear many members of American society right now are not fit to handle them
15:01.40Wormy_Why the fuick do people need assault rifles
15:02.04DrodoEmpireWormy, stop. Just stop- if people want them let them have it- if people want to get them they'll get them
15:02.21Wormy_Much harder in my country.
15:02.34DrodoEmpireTerrorists still get them, clearly
15:02.41MonetModern media has become oversaturated with becoming known or notided.
15:02.57Wormy_Rarely, the last death was in 1990.  And fact that its happened just recently shows that disease is spreading here
15:03.00DrodoEmpireThe best we can do, is to stop these tragedies by getting the people who'd do this help and stop glorifying them in the media
15:03.13Wormy_Before Jo Cox
15:03.15HachimanWormy_: Last death was quite recently, actually
15:03.20MonetAnd the age of terror has shown it's much easier to act like a lunatic to get attention than doing something worthwhile ot society.
15:03.20HachimanRight
15:03.24Wormy_Political death, you know what I mean
15:03.50DrodoEmpireAlso, Wormy_, how do you plan to get the weapons currently in US circulation out? Its not possible, and your solution isn't practical. We're dealing with completely different circumstances in the US
15:04.11HachimanI still feel that this whole "every gunman has mental health issues" thing is complete bullshit btw
15:04.22DrodoEmpireNaturally yeah
15:04.23HachimanEvery gunman UNLESS they're a minority of some kind
15:04.24DrodoEmpireBut some do
15:04.30Wormy_Which makes the situation even worse
15:05.01Wormy_DodoEmpire:  No idea, and it would be a very long term thing
15:05.46DrodoEmpireRight, you don't have a solution. To be fair, I don't have a great solution either, but I know what *won't* work
15:05.48HachimanBecause then it is either gang violence if the shooter is black or Mexican or an act of terrorism if the shooter is Muslim, while every white shooter supposedly suffered from "severe mental health issues"
15:05.55Wormy_Practicality aside, I'm not sure I tolerate the pro-gun people's feelings, people who seem unprerpared to make any change in policy whatsever
15:06.25DrodoEmpireThey might be unwilling to make changes to *gun* policy- but they're willing to change other things
15:06.39DrodoEmpireMaybe its because they have personal experience with firearms and the industry, while you do not
15:06.55HachimanBesides, truth is, everyone knows that these mass shootings are funded and operated by Obama to stir the masses and push his anti-gun agenda
15:07.02DrodoEmpire:p
15:07.12Wormy_Mental health and media coverage ought to be improved.  But the mot radical I'm being is to make gun control tighter, thats all.
15:07.56DrodoEmpireWhich is absurdly vague, and I have no idea how it'll work- there's a handful of things, perhaps, but that's it
15:07.59DrodoEmpire:p
15:09.00HachimanUniversal background checks made by competent people? Restrictions on non-sidearm weapons like assault rifles?
15:09.11Wormy_^
15:09.34Wormy_It won't fix all gun crime, but its a start.
15:09.50DrodoEmpireI'm thinking more closing the "gun show loophole" by having to show ID and registration when purchasing firearms in these places
15:09.56HachimanOf course
15:10.01DrodoEmpireBackground checks? Perhaps, if its practical to do
15:10.03Wormy_And a more protective policy of innocent people
15:10.15HachimanIt seems fucking stupid that you can buy a gun without having to show ID and registration
15:10.35DrodoEmpireAnd pistols are restricted weapons for a reason, Hachi- do research before speaking in these subjects :p
15:10.51DrodoEmpireOr rather more restricted than a hunting rifle
15:10.53HachimanDon't talk down to me like I'm a fucking child
15:11.11Wormy_There's also massive differences in the capability of these weapons
15:11.13DrodoEmpireNot trying to, but honestly
15:11.22DrodoEmpireIts more that pistols are easily concealed
15:11.27HachimanRight
15:11.38Wormy_Perhaps gun concealment should be banned
15:11.38HachimanYou could have just said that without making it sound like you were trying to be pedantic
15:12.05DrodoEmpire*possibly*, Wormy_, but that's something that can't really be enforced
15:12.32DrodoEmpireIt would at least require authoritarian measures to enforce it
15:12.35HachimanBecause I am not going to deny that it makes sense that sidearms are more restricted given you've brought up how easily concealed they are
15:12.38Wormy_And perhaps companies and institutions should have the power to bar people bringing weapons into buildings
15:12.41DrodoEmpireRight
15:12.49DrodoEmpireTo Hachi, not you Wormy :p
15:12.54HachimanWormy_: They do; in schools
15:13.00DrodoEmpireThat won't stop someone Wormy
15:13.02DrodoEmpireThat's silly
15:13.06Wormy_Yeah, but the government is pretty authoritarian as it is on many things
15:13.15Hachiman*Our* government is
15:13.21DrodoEmpireSo why let them be even more so?
15:13.22DrodoEmpireThat's a stupid argument too >.<
15:13.22Wormy_No, but it creates a culture where guns can criticised more
15:13.44DrodoEmpireIs a shooter going to care? Do yuo think "criticism" is going to stop shooters?
15:13.46DrodoEmpireNo
15:13.48Wormy_Perhaps gun crime has become a trivialised thing
15:14.00DrodoEmpireThank the media, and get data
15:14.01DrodoEmpire:p
15:14.24HachimanI think the real problem is that whether or not guns do get tighter restrictions at this point, there are still many in circulation throughout the US
15:14.38HachimanAnd it is far too impractical to clamp down on how many there actually are
15:14.49DrodoEmpireThat's what I'm saying.
15:14.57DrodoEmpireIts easy to illegally buy a gun *anywhere on earth*
15:15.03Wormy_Definitely agree there
15:15.09DrodoEmpireSome places you need better connections, yeah, but so?
15:15.24Wormy_bbl
15:16.17DrodoEmpireHonestly I think the only real solution is, and I know I'll sound like an evil republican here, educate people on gun use, and just let people arm themselves if they so choose. Gun regulations seem to work only conditionally, and its culturally/politically specific
15:17.59HachimanSo what you are saying is that it's too late for America
15:18.47DrodoEmpireNot "too late", but the culture is different and the circumstances are different
15:19.11GhelawayI suggest the solution is to replace all guns with swords, and allow everyone to have one. Then, rather than horrific mass shootings, we get epic fencing duels instead. What's not to like?
15:19.16Ghelawaygoes back to being away before people point out the huge number of holes in that idea
15:19.20DrodoEmpireI do wish that were possible
15:19.21Hachimanhur
15:19.48DrodoEmpireIts not possible to use a modified version of, say, Denmark's gun laws in the US because the circumstances would mean such laws are unenforceable, and they'd likely be unpopular
15:19.59DrodoEmpireThat's how I see it
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15:23.07HachimanI am beginning to wonder how you feel about the UK's anti-weapon policies
15:23.22DrodoEmpireMe?
15:23.25HachimanYeah
15:23.34Technobliteratorno, the solution is to replace all humans with robots
15:23.42Technobliteratorthen there will be no mass shootings
15:23.56DrodoEmpireWhat about mass-deactivations? <.<
15:24.09OluapPlayerYes, there'll be mass LASER shootings
15:24.12OluapPlayerWhich are cooler
15:24.15TechnobliteratorIndeed
15:24.48HachimanA majority of British police officers do not carry firearms and those that do have strict regulations on when they use them and how to use them
15:24.50DrodoEmpireI'm not a great fan of most weapon regulation, as its usually written really bizarrely- I'm not sure exactly what's its like in the UK but I know in Canada flip knives are legal, but butterfly knives aren't for absolutely no logical reason
15:25.47DrodoEmpireAnd similar regulations exist in countries that may allow a semi-automatic rifle when it has wood furnishings, but ban it as an "assault weapon" when it has carbon-black furnishings and a pistol grip despite being the exact same weapon
15:26.03OluapPlayerwhen the caterpillar knife gets old, it grows wings and becomes a butterfly knife
15:26.06OluapPlayerand you don't want knives with wings around
15:26.10DrodoEmpirehur
15:27.00Technobliteratorbut guys
15:27.14Technobliteratorwe all know that it's all the policy of the Obama administration to take guns away
15:27.18Technobliteratorso he can enforce martial law
15:27.20HachimanI made this joke
15:27.27Technobliteratorbleh
15:27.31TechnobliteratorI missed it then
15:27.41Technobliteratoroh
15:27.43Technobliteratoryes you di
15:27.44Technobliteratord
15:27.44MonetHow can he enforce martial law in the last few months of his term?
15:28.00TechnobliteratorHe'll find away, you see, he'll repeal the constitution
15:28.07Technobliteratorand turn the country into an ISIS califate
15:28.18DrodoEmpire"NO ELECTIONS! I'VE BEEN A KENYAN AGENT ALL ALONG!"
15:28.19HachimanI do not know the exact regulations on knives but I know that a majority of firearms are outright banned from public access unless one lives in a rural area - even then, they are allowed rifles and shotguns (I think?) and require licences and ID in order to own them
15:28.28DrodoEmpireRight
15:28.40HachimanUsed for the purposes of hunting animals
15:28.47MonetYeah you need a liscence to carry a rifle or shotgun.
15:29.04MonetHunting animals or defending your farm against foxes and the like.
15:29.06DrodoEmpireWell I know what I'd prefer, but the circumstances are different in the UK
15:29.09Technobliteratoralright, seriously, we know how to solve the mass shooting problems
15:29.15DrodoEmpireSo I can't say much
15:29.19Technobliteratorall weapons should require a nanomachine injection to use them
15:29.24Technobliteratoror else they will never fire
15:29.26OluapPlayerTHE SYSTEM IS MINE
15:29.31Hachimanfukn MGS fag
15:29.33TechnobliteratorYOUR GUNS AND YOUR WEAPONS
15:29.36TechnobliteratorARE NO LONGER YOUR OWN
15:30.29HachimanBut yes, as idealistic as ID-controlled weapons are, note that it is a point in MGS4 that weapons that do not require ID are still on the black market
15:30.34OluapPlayerPistol Puma and the Puma Patrol
15:30.49DrodoEmpireWell yeah, it faces the exact same problems as licensing and everything else
15:30.59Technobliteratorit wouldn't really work
15:32.01Technobliteratorproblem is, new technology just enables cybercrime
15:32.14TechnobliteratorI bet, for instance, the DNC will return to using paper after the recent hack
15:32.55MonetBoth the War Economy and the use of ID-controlled weapons just couldn't work.
15:33.12Monetmass use*
15:33.40Technobliteratorthe War Economy already does work
15:33.46TechnobliteratorIt's just less subtle
15:33.53MonetNot to MGS4's extent
15:33.54TechnobliteratorID controlled weapons on that scale? Probably not
15:33.59TechnobliteratorOf course
15:34.05DrodoEmpireActually here's a different question- Why does the UK drive on the left? <.<
15:34.16Technobliteratorthere is no good answer to that question
15:34.30MonetWe just do.
15:34.33DrodoEmpireI've always wondered considering like 80% of the planet drives on the right >.<
15:34.43MonetWe spread our left-driveyness across the world.
15:34.52OluapPlayerROIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FACKIN ROAD
15:34.54Technobliteratorthere's no good reason for it
15:35.15Technobliteratoralright, here's a hypothetical scenario
15:35.22DrodoEmpireMonet: Yeah, it basically mirrors the British Empire (with the exception of Canada)
15:35.24DrodoEmpireLeft-driving
15:35.24TechnobliteratorEU remain wins tomorrow, then later on, new EU law
15:35.30Technobliteratorenforces driving on the right side of the road
15:35.42Technobliteratorsuddenly, another Brexit referendum
15:35.56CyrannianHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEEQpTnfNfg
15:36.40Hachiman"Did somebody fart?" "I hope so. And I hope it was you."
15:36.43HachimanHoly shit R'tas
15:36.46MonetWell the current system of a "please drive on the left side of the road" sign at Dover.
15:36.55Monetworks fine so far
15:37.06CyrannianYou should watch that dub series, it's hilarious
15:37.13HachimanSure
15:37.30HachimanTechnobliterator: Remain is not winning tomorrow
15:37.35TechnobliteratorSadly, I know
15:37.49TechnobliteratorI was just making a joke
15:38.09MonetJust a year ago peopel were saying we'd have a hung parliament. Polls are just estimates.
15:38.19DrodoEmpirel e a v e  t h e  e u
15:38.28HachimanAs much as I want Remain to win, it is just not possible
15:38.36TechnobliteratorIndeed
15:39.07Technobliteratoroh well, we can look forward to our 2020 UKIP majority government working with President Trump to try and avoid the nuclear apocalypse
15:39.17HachimanAye
15:39.37Technobliteratorwell done, humans, your ability to make decisions is truly impeccable
15:39.51HachimanWe can focus on that now that we're back to fucking our cousins to keep British blood pure due to the absence of foreigners
15:40.00Technobliteratorlmao
15:40.01Technobliteratoryeah
15:40.55HachimanMaybe we can form the Second Empire of Britain and pick a fight with Russia to get ourselves killed off quicker
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15:41.34Technobliteratoroh, I'm sure Prime Minister Johnson or Prime Minster Gove would happily do that
15:42.08HachimanI wouldn't even be mad if Boris Johnson became PM because I at least find him entertaining
15:42.23HachimanI would get to laugh while the country burns to a fucking crisp around me
15:43.35OluapPlayeredgelord
15:44.00DrodoEmpire^
15:44.05Technobliteratorit's not being edgy
15:44.08DrodoEmpireedgiest edge
15:44.12DrodoEmpiremirror's edge
15:44.14Technobliteratorsee, what it is is just pessimism
15:44.23Technobliteratorthis way, neither me nor Hachi are disappointed when we get the worst outcome
15:44.32Technobliteratorbut we're pleasantly surprised when we get the one we wanted
15:44.51Technobliteratorto me, it's just easier than being optimistic and preparing for the best then being massively let down and having your plans ruined
15:45.04Technobliteratorand apparently, given how the rate of the pound currency has fallen, economists agree with us
15:45.19CyrannianIt's not going to be good for Northern Ireland if the UK leaves, with border controls being reinstated
15:45.33OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Do you have your bot with you?
15:45.36MonetOr what about adapting to whatever the majority decides.
15:45.47TechnobliteratorYeah, problem is, I've struggled to get that thing you wanted to work
15:45.49Technobliteratorsorry about that
15:45.59OluapPlayeruseless dumba
15:46.08TechnobliteratorI would've done it already
15:46.10Technobliteratorbut I've been busy
15:46.11MonetIf we leave, no point omplaining because it's what the peopel wanted.
15:46.16Technobliteratorpromise you it'll be done by the end of today
15:46.17Monetcomplaining*
15:46.33MonetYou can, but what will complaining because your side lost achieve?
15:46.37TechnobliteratorMonet, I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean people have to like said outcome, no?
15:46.44MonetBecause if Remain win, they'll bitch and moan.
15:46.50MonetLeav'll*
15:46.59TechnobliteratorI confess I don't really see what your point is
15:47.05HachimanMonet: Because then I get the satisfaction of telling the Leavers to go fuck themselves once their decision ends up fucking them in the ass
15:47.11HachimanNo wait
15:47.15HachimanYea
15:47.17HachimanLeavers
15:47.41TechnobliteratorI mean, there's already some strong evidence that Leave will be economically damaging
15:48.11HachimanIt won't matter to the majority of Leavers though, aka old people, because they'll likely be fucking dead by the time they see the extent of the damage they have caused
15:48.33HachimanThese kinds of things are specifically tailored towards old people because it is somewhat common knowledge that younger people vote less
15:48.51MonetNot liking the outcome is fine, you have the right to do that. My concern is that it becomes complaining about peopel disagreeing with you.
15:49.05Technobliteratoryeah, that's fair
15:49.20TechnobliteratorBut I don't intend to whine when it happens
15:49.30TechnobliteratorI just do not expect to be happy about it
15:49.42Hachimaninb4 Monet is a Leaver
15:50.04MonetI'm more on the fence.
15:50.05DrodoEmpireI'm definitely leaning more in to that camp. :p
15:50.25HachimanYou're not even a part of the EU
15:50.32TechnobliteratorI despise the European Union
15:50.37DrodoEmpireI know- Can I not have an opinion?
15:50.42TechnobliteratorBut I think Leaving would be a monumentally bad decision
15:50.45HachimanYou've got nothing to worry about other than Trump hur
15:50.59HachimanI despise the European Union, but I despise British politicians more
15:51.00DrodoEmpireWell, not true because countries don't exist in a bubble
15:51.02HachimanAnd Saudi Arabians
15:51.04TechnobliteratorIndeed
15:51.05HachimanFuck those guys
15:51.13TechnobliteratorI will say this though
15:51.18MonetThe EU has problems, its corrupt and it has its hinderances. But I prefer to act if I don't like something and leaving is basically going "screw you guys, I'm goin' home!"
15:51.21Technobliteratormy opinion of David Cameron has changed quite a bit
15:51.32HachimanMine hasn't
15:51.37DrodoEmpireI mean I'd support remain if I thought it possible to reform the EU from the inside, but there's no way that'll happen
15:51.52TechnobliteratorI still dislike the man, I don't think he held this referendum for any reasons other than to appease people in his own party
15:51.53HachimanHe's still an idiotic pig-fucking cunt-faced twat
15:51.55DrodoEmpireI think its best for the UK to, in the long run at the *very least*, to leave
15:52.04HachimanIt's just he's a little smarter than his compatriots
15:52.11TechnobliteratorBut at least the campaign he's running has been much cleaner than we normally see from him
15:52.23Technobliteratorie no stupid identity politics or misleading garbage
15:52.47Technobliteratoralso, how people can support Gove after what he did to the education system is just completely beyond me
15:53.07HachimanBecause the people who are voting for Gove are old people who do not need the education system anymore?
15:53.19Technobliteratoryeah, I suspect that is the case
15:53.36TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, this is a fair opinion, and is one that probably a lot of Leavers share
15:53.47MonetDemocracy has become all about the short ter mthese days.
15:53.53TechnobliteratorBut I do not think that it's worth the short term crash we'll likely get
15:53.59HachimanI fucking hate old people; they're bigoted and racist, they stink like shit, and they have no right to be walking around when they already look like a corpse
15:54.05DrodoEmpireI think an economic slump in the short term is inevitable, but the British are resilient enough
15:54.10Technobliteratorhey, not all old people
15:54.13TechnobliteratorI mean
15:54.16Technobliterator#notalloldpeople
15:54.22Technobliteratoris that a hashtag?
15:54.26DrodoEmpireRight, Hachi, that's really really really dumb
15:54.28Technobliteratorlike, #notallmen ?
15:54.47Technobliteratoryeah, Drodo, I get that
15:55.08TechnobliteratorIt's basically whether the crash is worth sticking it to the guys who are really doing an awful job
15:55.11DrodoEmpireEither way I don't completely buy the economic arguments from either side
15:55.15HachimanIt's also a joke, I acknowledge that there are pleasant old people hur
15:55.25DrodoEmpireAhh. >.< Sorry
15:55.33HachimanIt's just I know a lot of them that also deserve to not still be around anymore yet they are
15:55.37HachimanFucking zombies
15:55.42MonetI wonder these days if anything like the Marshall Plan or the New Deal is possible to pull off these days.
15:55.45TechnobliteratorWell, you don't have to buy the economic arguments to acknowledge the massive drop in value of the pound currency :P
15:56.10DrodoEmpireThat happens with any big event, so while concerning it isn't surprising
15:56.22DrodoEmpireI doubt it'll be permanent
15:56.27TechnobliteratorTo be perfectly honest, I think the best thing we could do is get rid of First Past the Post and maybe replace it with Single Transferable Vote. Two-party politics is just cancer.
15:56.36DrodoEmpireI agree
15:56.57TechnobliteratorThe Conservatives and the Labour Party wouldn't be such trash if they actually had to compete for votes with more than just one other party, if you ask me
15:57.38Hachiman>implying people vote Green or Lib Dems anymore
15:57.56TechnobliteratorMy family always voted Green
15:58.06Technobliteratorbut Lib Dems kind of self destructed
15:58.15HachimanWhat even happened to the Lib Dems
15:58.24MonetThey're clawing back though this referendum
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15:58.39HachimanNo
15:58.39CyrannianThe fact that the Lib Dems received fewer seats than the SNP despite gaining a million more votes was bizarre
15:58.48TechnobliteratorIndeed
15:58.54TechnobliteratorThis is why I think Single Transferable Vote is needed
15:58.57DrodoEmpireHi
15:59.03Technobliteratorproportional representation would be so much better
16:00.31Technobliteratorhowever, I don't think it's as bad as the American system with an electoral college
16:00.40Cyrannianbbl work
16:00.41Needle-BlaggyHi everyone. How've things bone
16:00.46Needle-Blaggygone*
16:00.52Technobliteratornice SCOTUS deciding the president
16:00.54HachimanIt is somewhat scary to think that the BNP is more popular than the Lib Dems #
16:00.54DrodoEmpireGood. You?
16:01.00Needle-BlaggyGood here
16:01.01Technobliteratorugh, yeah
16:01.18MonetWell now we're stuck with an SNP-dominated Scotland. THansk protest voters!
16:01.20DrodoEmpireNew to the wiki?
16:01.24Needle-BlaggyBNP are nationalist, right? Or am I wrong
16:01.27Needle-BlaggyNope
16:01.28HachimanThey are
16:01.46DrodoEmpireAhh
16:01.46Needle-Blaggy(actually Needles_10 from way long ago but I think I registered it and forgot the pass)
16:02.16HachimanMonet: I wouldn't blame Scotland for wanting to have another go at independence again to rejoin the EU if this Brexit thing goes tits up
16:02.18TechnobliteratorSNP are already proving to have been a pretty bad vote for them given how they've basically lost a lot of respect they had in Scotland
16:02.20MonetWe in Britain like ot call them the British Nazi Party.
16:02.47Needle-BlaggyYeah, I figure you would. Nationalism never ends well.
16:02.59TechnobliteratorI totally do not blame them for being unhappy with the governments we've had basically since Blair
16:03.02ImperiosWait
16:03.09Technobliteratorfucking Blair
16:03.18ImperiosThere were Scottish elections recently?
16:03.30Needle-BlaggyThis is why I'm worried about a Trump presidency here in the States. Shit. Will not. Go down. Smoothly.
16:03.30Technobliteratorthey were at the same time as everyone else
16:03.34Needle-BlaggyEver. Again.
16:03.37Wormy_DrodoEmpire:  Have you seen that political rant vid I linked?
16:03.48Wormy_Hello Needles
16:03.49Technobliteratorsadly, I expect Trump to actually win
16:04.16DrodoEmpireNo, I haven't Wormy
16:04.32Needle-BlaggyAMERICA: Land Of The Piss-Poor Decision Makers and Home Of The Imbeciles Who Want To Do Nothing But Argue All The Time
16:04.37Wormy_Drodo, Techno:  I think you should both see this, takes the piss out of both ca,mps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPWNh28AzRc
16:04.41TechnobliteratorYup
16:04.53Technobliteratoryour GOP is awful
16:05.07Needle-BlaggyThis is why I wanna start a micronation called "Asylia". Name derived from "asylum".
16:05.10TechnobliteratorI wonder if they'll survive past 2016 or a few more years
16:05.17Technobliteratoror if all their votes will go to the Libertarians instead
16:05.28Needle-Blaggy<PROTECTED>
16:05.30TechnobliteratorWormy_, seen this :p
16:05.41Technobliteratorhaha
16:05.42Needle-Blaggy:/
16:05.44Technobliteratorwell
16:05.52Needle-BlaggyIt'll prolly still BE here
16:05.58TechnobliteratorPresident Clinton: America sold out to the biggest donator to the Clinton Foundation
16:06.07TechnobliteratorPresident Trump: America destroyed by nuclear war
16:06.09TechnobliteratorTake your pick!
16:06.15DrodoEmpireAnd people say Trump's sensationalist? :p America'll survive a Trump presidency. He'll do some shit and then get blocked by COngress
16:06.25Needle-BlaggyDrodoEmpire: uhm
16:06.29DrodoEmpireHonestly he'll probably be a do-nothing president
16:06.30Technobliteratorwe're being hyperbolic, Drodo
16:06.31Needle-BlaggyThe GOP controlls congress
16:06.37HachimanAmerica will survive; it will be full of more holes than a school or bar in Orlando but it will survive
16:06.42Technobliteratoror at least
16:06.46TechnobliteratorI'm being hyperbolic
16:06.46DrodoEmpireAnd they don't like Trump.
16:06.52Needle-Blaggysome of them don't
16:06.59TechnobliteratorNeedle-Blaggy, I find your reasoning flawed
16:07.14Needle-BlaggyTechnobliterator: Just might be, I admit that.
16:07.17TechnobliteratorCongress usually goes to whichever party does not currently control the Presidency
16:07.27TechnobliteratorOr it has been that way since Bill Clinton anyway
16:07.39Needle-BlaggyEhh, hasn't always been the case
16:07.41Needle-BlaggyYeah
16:08.07TechnobliteratorOf course, Democrats hadn't been re-elected since FDR before Bill Clinton
16:08.26Needle-BlaggyI expect the GOP Voters to replace the old guard with Hyperconservative jagoffs like Trump
16:08.37TechnobliteratorOr just move to the Libertarian party
16:08.42Technobliteratorwhich I think is more likely
16:08.55Needle-BlaggyI'd rather live in a different country where this ISN'T a problem
16:09.19Needle-BlaggySadly, I don't think there are many like that
16:09.21Needle-BlaggyT.T
16:09.24Technobliteratormeanwhile, with President Clinton, your military does the bidding of whoever donated the highest amount to the Clinton Foundation \o/
16:09.35Needle-Blaggyolol
16:09.40Needle-Blaggyl1
16:09.50Needle-BlaggyI just realized, l and 1 look nearly identical
16:09.59Needle-Blaggytypewriter vestiges, anyone?
16:10.00Technobliteratorsuddenly, the US military becomes a mercenary group
16:10.12Needle-BlaggyLAWL
16:11.10TechnobliteratorEvery country outside the Middle East will survive a Hillary Clinton presidency
16:11.20Technobliteratoras long as they give $400,000 speaking fees
16:11.23Needle-BlaggySo...anything new occur in the old Fictional 'Verse
16:11.34DrodoEmpireLots
16:11.39Needle-BlaggyWell dam
16:11.57Needle-BlaggyI don't even remember when I was last here
16:11.59DrodoEmpireLike... A *lot*. >.< Quite a bit really
16:13.21Technobliteratorguys, stop telling me to settle for Umbridge so that we don't get Voldemort
16:13.26Technobliterator#DumbledoreorBust
16:13.50Hachimanhur
16:14.57Needle-Blaggydur
16:15.37HachimanWho knows, maybe Trump will prove to be Snape
16:15.48HachimanUnlikely, but who knows
16:17.07Needle-BlaggyNNNnnnnnah, unlikely
16:17.17Technobliteratoror maybe the Dementors will still find Umbridge guilty
16:17.23Needle-BlaggyNo-one is a match for the late Alan Rickman
16:17.36Technobliteratorassuming that wasn't part of the vast Death Eater conspiracy
16:21.49Needle-BlaggyDe-
16:21.51Needle-Blaggyuhm ok
16:22.17Needle-BlaggyCan someone PLEASE explain what's happened thus far since I was last here, whenever, in the fic-verse?
16:22.24HachimanTechnobliterator: Have you looked into getting Overpriced on Linux?
16:22.34TechnobliteratorOverpriced?
16:22.37HachimanOverwatch
16:22.40Technobliteratoroh
16:22.41Technobliteratorlmao
16:22.44Technobliteratornice name
16:22.45TechnobliteratorI have not
16:23.04TechnobliteratorIf I did get it, I would get it for PS4, probably
16:23.53Needle-BlaggyPFFT
16:24.57Needle-BlaggyI preordered Overwatch (Origins Edition) via Gamestop
16:25.00Needle-Blaggydidn't get it
16:25.02Needle-BlaggyY
16:25.44TechnobliteratorI heard hte game was great, but doesn't justify its price at all
16:25.48HachimanI would like to think that Blizzard was being ballsy when they released Overwatch for around $70 despite it being just exclusively PvP with no singleplayer campaign but considering this is Blizzard
16:26.04TechnobliteratorIt's a full price game
16:26.09TechnobliteratorWhich is $60
16:26.12HachimanAh
16:26.18TechnobliteratorTheir reasoning, if you ask me, was extremely stupid
16:26.30HachimanWhat was their reasoning?
16:26.42DrodoEmpireYeah it really seems like you're just buying the company's name :p
16:26.52DrodoEmpire*Nobody* would accept that price from a smaller studio
16:27.03TechnobliteratorThey stated they did it because they did it instead of doing an F2P option because they didn't want any of the heroes to be locked behind a paywall
16:27.05Technobliteratorlike dude
16:27.13TechnobliteratorDota 2 doesn't lock a single hero behind a paywall
16:27.18Technobliteratornot every F2P game has to be League
16:27.25DrodoEmpireayy lmao
16:27.28DrodoEmpireBut yeah
16:27.40MonetBut Overwatch palys like TF2
16:27.42Monetnot Dota
16:27.45Technobliteratorthey could've very easily locked cosmetics behind a paywall instead
16:27.49DrodoEmpireIts a similar principle I guess
16:27.51HachimanTF2 wasn't $60 before it was F2P
16:27.55TechnobliteratorOkay, and TF2 doesn't lock a single character behind a paywall either?
16:27.55MonetCan you imagine locking Sniper behind a paywall?
16:28.03MonetHAchiman: Inflation
16:28.05TechnobliteratorIt has cosmetics being locked behind a paywall instead
16:28.14Technobliteratorie the same model
16:28.20HachimanMore like Valve knew what the fuck they were doing
16:28.24TechnobliteratorYes
16:28.25DrodoEmpireInflation... Within the space ~10 years? >.<
16:28.32HachimanBack when Valve was the good guy
16:28.41TechnobliteratorAnd Valve's Counter-Strike series also isn't full price
16:28.48DrodoEmpireNo, I believe at release TF2 was about the same as CS:GO is now, right?
16:28.59DrodoEmpireWhich is *well below* current AAA game price
16:29.04OluapPlayerTF2's quality went downhill once it went F2P
16:29.09MonetIn my experience £40 is the average price for a new release by a major studio.
16:29.13OluapPlayerOr rather, it was already going downhill before
16:29.16Hachimannice meme oldfag
16:29.23OluapPlayerFuck off
16:29.37HachimanSo wait
16:29.40TechnobliteratorBut a release with as little content as Overwatch?
16:29.41HachimanWhy did it go downhill
16:29.49MonetDoom costs £40 on PS4
16:29.49TechnobliteratorIt doesn't have any singleplayer campaign
16:29.55HachimanIt's even more ballsy that there are microtransactions in Overwatch - stuff you *can* pay for rather
16:29.58Technobliteratorhas very few game modes
16:30.03Technobliteratoryes
16:30.04OluapPlayerIt begun focusing on cosmetics and microtransactions
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16:30.14HachimanAh
16:30.15The_RandomnessHello
16:30.17HachimanHi
16:30.28Needle-BlaggyIt's randomness
16:30.28TechnobliteratorI agree with what Oluap is saying
16:30.38Needle-Blaggy#EntropyWins
16:30.39TechnobliteratorBut just because a game has a price doesn't mean it has to be full price
16:30.41Technobliteratorhi random
16:30.44OluapPlayerF2P players need to do at lest one microtransaction to have access to cosmetics
16:31.00OluapPlayerThey also have a severely impaired weapon drop system iirc
16:31.09TechnobliteratorI was going to say I wonder if Dota 2's community would be so toxic if it had a paywall
16:31.11Technobliteratorbut then again
16:31.17OluapPlayerThey get less items than premium users
16:31.19Technobliteratorits community was toxic when there were limited invites
16:31.21Technobliteratorso that'd never happen
16:31.37MonetAso neither TF2 or CS:GO use a fresh game engine.
16:31.39Tek0516http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1466606325-20160622.png
16:31.44TechnobliteratorUh
16:31.46OluapPlayerDota 2 had a paywall once, when it was in beta
16:31.58OluapPlayerIt was essentially a buy to play game at the time
16:31.58TechnobliteratorThat doesn't seem like much of a good defense of Overwatch's price
16:32.20MonetGame engines like Frostbite are fucking expensive ot devleop.
16:32.25TechnobliteratorA fresh game engine does not justify little content
16:32.33DrodoEmpire^
16:32.50OluapPlayerDoes Overwatch have little content though?
16:32.55HachimanYes
16:32.57OluapPlayerAs far as I know the game is universally praised
16:33.03Hachimanngh brb
16:33.06DrodoEmpireEmpire Total War, for all its problems, had a good amount of playable nations on release and its DLC was cheap and big
16:33.07TechnobliteratorWell, it has no single player campaign and has very few modes
16:33.15OluapPlayerNeither does TF2
16:33.16DrodoEmpireDespite it being the first game on Warscap
16:33.17MonetHow many modes
16:33.19DrodoEmpire*Warscape
16:33.25TechnobliteratorThe gameplay is universally praised, but the price is not
16:33.45TechnobliteratorYeah, but Oluap, TF2 was never a full price game
16:34.14TechnobliteratorAnd, correct me if I'm wrong, but when it did cost money, it still had microtransactions
16:34.15OluapPlayerIt might have been. I don't know how much it costed back in 2008
16:34.18OluapPlayer2007 even
16:34.37TechnobliteratorIt wasn't, because you could get it with Orange Box
16:34.57Technobliteratorwhich itself was a full price collection of smaller games
16:35.04OluapPlayerMicrotransactions were added to TF2 3 years after release
16:35.16TechnobliteratorPoint is, Overwatch is a fantastic game which completely fails to justify the price tag
16:35.27OluapPlayerThe game went F2P a year after that
16:35.31MonetHmm 4 game modes, with three maps each.
16:35.35TechnobliteratorPeople had much the same criticism of Star Wars Battlefront
16:35.44DrodoEmpireYeah
16:36.08DrodoEmpireLet's hope BF1 isn't the same way
16:36.17TechnobliteratorI'm not denying though that F2P can be damaging to the game
16:36.25OluapPlayerI don't know if I agree with that analogy
16:36.36OluapPlayerIf the gameplay is that good then surely it's worth its price
16:36.49Technobliteratorthough I'm not sure F2P is the sole reason TF2 went downhill? I think it might also be how Valve works internally
16:36.57Technobliteratorwith the whole, developers being able to choose what to work on whenever
16:36.58OluapPlayerMicrotransactions
16:37.20TechnobliteratorI think devs at Valve just stopped working on TF2
16:37.25Technobliteratorand thus it went downhill
16:37.36OluapPlayerThey don't, TF2 always has a team in it
16:37.46OluapPlayerBut this team constantly decreases in size or changes altogether
16:37.48Technobliteratorwell, not completely
16:37.55Technobliteratorbut it's a smaller team than before
16:37.55Technobliteratoryeah
16:38.17Technobliteratorwas it the game's content that went downhill after TF2 went F2P, or the community as well?
16:38.42OluapPlayerBoth
16:38.47The_Randomnesscorrelation =/= causation
16:38.49Technobliteratormhm
16:38.50Needle-BlaggyHm
16:38.58OluapPlayerThe introduction of microtransactions led to the game changing from "80s spy movie parody" to "WACKY SANDVICH CLOWN PARTY"
16:38.59Needle-BlaggyDo you think that a race of spacefaring (albeit obviously smaller than actual/in-film) Godzillas would be in any way plausible for the fic-verse
16:39.07DrodoEmpireMy room smells like industrial cleaner- its wafting through my window
16:39.08DrodoEmpireJust
16:39.09TechnobliteratorThing is, Overwatch already has microtransactions
16:39.10DrodoEmpireWhy town
16:39.22TechnobliteratorIt just has microtransactions in addition to a full price
16:39.37The_Randomnesswhat's your point?
16:39.41TechnobliteratorSo content-wise, I imagine Overwatch may have the same problem
16:39.48DrodoEmpireNeedle-Blaggy: Perhaps... Though how big?
16:39.51The_RandomnessHonestly this just reeks of "how dare you make me pay for your game"
16:40.08TechnobliteratorThe_Randomness, I have no qualms with paying for a game, but it doesn't justify full price
16:40.10DrodoEmpireCivilization requires, as its basis, food production after all
16:40.16DrodoEmpireYeah Tech has a point
16:40.20TechnobliteratorCS:GO is not full price either
16:40.27MonetHow much do you wantot pay though Techno
16:40.27DrodoEmpireOverwatch has too little content
16:40.29OluapPlayerI remember to this day that there used to be a page where Valve instructed modders about the game's artstyle and general theme
16:40.40OluapPlayerAnd there was a snip of text along the lines of "no clown suits for the Heavy"
16:40.45Needle-Blaggy4 to 9 meters, varying
16:40.51OluapPlayerToday there are at least 2 clown suits in the game
16:40.52DrodoEmpireRight
16:40.55The_Randomnessoh gosh
16:40.57DrodoEmpireSo they're pretty big
16:41.08TechnobliteratorHow much do I want to pay? Like, a CS:GO kind of price?
16:41.08Needle-Blaggycompared to the 50-118.5 meter range of ACTUAL Godzilla in film, yknow
16:41.12The_Randomnessalso, nobody requires you to pay for mtx in games like Overwatch
16:41.13DrodoEmpireYeah :p
16:41.15TechnobliteratorIt just doesn't have the content to justify it
16:41.27Needle-Blaggy(ranging from his 1954 appearance to his soon-to-come 2016 film)
16:41.37TechnobliteratorAgain, same criticism as with Star Wars Battlefront 2015
16:41.41DrodoEmpireThey seem about as big as a Draconis
16:41.47TechnobliteratorGame, totally fine, just not enough in it
16:41.50The_Randomnesseh
16:41.51Needle-BlaggyGuess they'd be
16:41.54MonetSo...£11
16:42.04Monet£12*
16:42.09The_RandomnessI don't have a problem with it myself
16:42.16Technobliterator£11, £15, £20, I'd even be fine with £30
16:42.25TechnobliteratorYeah, that's fair, given that the game is really good and all
16:42.25DrodoEmpireRight, so they might be able to actually build a civilization then
16:43.02DrodoEmpire(The problem being is that, if you're too big, reproduction will be too slow and caloric requirements too great for food production and thus civilization to exist)
16:43.11TechnobliteratorMy opinion is just that I'm worried about how developers are releasing multiplayer-only games for very high prices and not really including enough additional content
16:43.14Monet£30-35 I can see as reasonable. Maybe £25. I can't see Overwatch being considered profitable at £15 or less.
16:43.21DrodoEmpireAnd if you don't start with civilization, you can't have, eventually, spaceship
16:43.23DrodoEmpire*s
16:43.26Technobliteratoryeah, I'd find that reasonable
16:45.32MonetI might have found some link as to where the cost comes from
16:45.50Needle-BlaggyExactly why they're about as big as the Draconis
16:46.00MonetOverwatch was built off the lessons learned from developing Titan
16:46.01DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkGwcYbVEAQRNe0.jpg:large
16:46.06Needle-BlaggyRather than absolutely massive
16:46.19MonetWhich for Blizzard had become something of a money black hole.
16:46.38DrodoEmpireRight, as Kicath/Draconis *probably* represent the upper limit of a species actually able to create civilization
16:46.46Needle-BlaggyYeah.
16:47.20DrodoEmpireWith that out of the way, I think its possible
16:47.38MonetSo as well as the cost of deeloping Overwatch, Blizzard also had to somehow recuperate what was sunk into Titan.
16:48.36HachimanDrodoEmpire: Mighty No. 5.6 lol
16:49.01HachimanDelayed for like a year and is complete and utter dogshit
16:49.06HachimanThe power of $4mil
16:49.11DrodoEmpireYeah... :p
16:49.33DrodoEmpireThough thankfully NMS has only been delayed by a couple months, and the team has been updating regularly
16:49.42OluapPlayerI have to give it to Mighty No 9. Not often do you see a game release that is considered a virus by most antivirus programs
16:49.53DrodoEmpireLOL
16:49.55DrodoEmpireWHAT
16:50.04OluapPlayerYep, that's a thing that happened
16:50.05HachimanIt also bricks your Wii
16:50.05DrodoEmpireAre you kidding? XD
16:50.14HachimanNo
16:50.15DrodoEmpireJesus H Murphy
16:50.19DrodoEmpireLink?
16:50.31OluapPlayerDon't got one with me
16:50.37MonetBut I'm no expert on pricing video games, I just know that  they're very costly things to development and developer offices can be like sweatshops especially as the deadline approaches.
16:50.40DrodoEmpireAhh
16:51.09Technobliteratorit's not like Blizzard don't earn plenty of money anyway
16:51.16HachimanDrodoEmpire: http://www.gamnesia.com/news/mighty-no.-9-backers-are-facing-issues-like-bricked-consoles-missing-dlc-co
16:51.35Technobliteratorthey should value a game at what it's worth
16:51.56Technobliteratornot try to recoup losses that have already been recouped probably from WoW and Hearthstone anyway
16:52.32HachimanThere's also a link for it being recognised as a virus, give me a moment
16:54.09MonetI'm going to back out now because we're approachi na matter I've talked of before.
16:54.10DrodoEmpire"I had a friend who lost his virginity in year eleven, which would've been *pretty cool*- but he was homeschooled."
16:55.03Needle-BlaggyGrand Gojiran Imperial Union?
16:55.26HachimanSounds almost racist, not gonna lie
16:55.31Needle-BlaggyOr should I come up with a smaller name?
16:55.44Needle-BlaggyHachiman: the name of the thing?
16:55.48Needle-BlaggyOr
16:55.51DrodoEmpireNot racist- It just sounds Imperial Japanese. XD
16:55.58DrodoEmpireWhich could be controversial
16:56.01Needle-BlaggyYeah true
16:56.02MonetWe also have comething called 'daikaiju' in the gigaquadrant
16:56.02HachimanYeah
16:56.03DrodoEmpireBut that's it
16:56.33DrodoEmpireA smaller name might be good, but its alright if you're set in that one
16:56.37Needle-BlaggyIn the case of these Gojirans which I'm planning, I suppose the Daikaiju would be Gojirans who found themselves addicted to radiation
16:56.50DrodoEmpireAddicted?
16:57.05HachimanI kinda do not get why people want to include kaiju so badly
16:57.18Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Daikaiju not quite
16:57.19Needle-Blaggywell, they're cool
16:57.20Needle-BlaggyLol
16:57.35DrodoEmpireI can't recall ever buying a baggy of weapons-grade uranium behind my local nuclear plant... :p
16:57.46Needle-BlaggyLOL
16:57.48Needle-BlaggyNot like THAT
16:57.51DrodoEmpireThe "good shit", as my dealer would tell me if he existed
16:58.06Needle-BlaggyRadiation, for Gojirans, is healthy in small doses.
16:58.22HachimanI don't think that is quite how radiation works
16:58.31DrodoEmpireOh I'd take it in small doses too- but it wouldn't be healthy
16:58.33DrodoEmpire<.<
16:58.39Needle-BlaggyHachiman: at least not for humans :P
16:58.50DrodoEmpireWell not for any known form of life
16:58.53DrodoEmpireBut if you're adamant
16:58.53MonetHollywood Radiation is closer to magic or pixie dust than actua lradiation.
16:59.02The_Randomness^
16:59.02HachimanNo no, for like every single living thing on Earth
16:59.04Needle-BlaggyMonet: fair enough
16:59.13Needle-Blaggyarent tehre fungi which thrive on radiation
16:59.23DrodoEmpireWe aren't too hard when it comes to Sci-fi though, so maybe...?
16:59.38MonetThe thing is from a scientific perspective, light, microwaves and radio waves are radiation.
16:59.53Needle-BlaggyReferring, of course, to Gamma Radiation
17:00.05MonetWhich is ionising radiation.
17:00.24HachimanI mean, if you want your creatures to essentially be walking tumours
17:00.26Needle-Blaggyapparently Radiotrophic Fungi use melanin to convert Gamma Radiation into chemical energy
17:01.45MonetYou'll need a planet that's bathed in gamma rays then
17:02.19The_RandomnessAnd everything will have to put a bunch of energy into making sure that any errors caused by radiation are fixed
17:02.28MonetAs according to Wikipedia the first place radiotropic fungi were found was around the former CHernobyl plant.
17:02.43The_RandomnessThe thing is, ionizing radiation is bad_news no matter what
17:02.45HachimanImperios: So, Transformers 5: The Last Knight was announced
17:03.01ImperiosTHE DEMON REARS HIS HEAD ONCE AGAIN
17:03.25ImperiosAND MEGAN FOX IS HIS WHORE OF BAY-Y-LON
17:03.33Hachimanhur
17:04.00DrodoEmpirehttp://digital.nls.uk/great-war/assets/img/content/general/pic-fighting-large-2a.jpg - This Uhlan's mustache is upsettingly asymmetrical.
17:04.06Needle-BlaggyDESTROY H.O.T.M.E.S.S.
17:04.32HachimanIs it just me who thought "Dark of the Moon" was both a stupid name and a reference to "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd?
17:04.37DrodoEmpire# c o d e k e e m
17:05.00HachimanI mean, "Dark of the Moon" makes no real grammatical sense to me
17:05.09DrodoEmpire^
17:05.28MonetI was more focused on how you had a Leanord Niboycon quoting SPock.
17:05.37MonetNimoycon*
17:06.59Needle-BlaggyDark of the Moon sounds just STUPID
17:07.40MonetNot sure if the inclusion of that line was by a goofy scriptwriter or if Nimor requested it out of "this movie's stupid may as well enjoy myself"
17:07.49MonetNimoy*
17:09.03Needle-BlaggyFirst it's Niboy, now it's Nimor
17:09.29Needle-BlaggyI love typos
17:09.51MonetLeonard Nimor the Sub-mariner!
17:16.04Needle-Blaggyc}:
17:16.10Needle-Blaggymustachio
17:18.33Needle-BlaggyHm
17:18.34Charles_MurrayDrodoEmpire : Polish cavalry - #1683bestdayofmylife #onlydayofmylife
17:19.05Needle-BlaggyGojiran Federation?
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17:25.09OluapPlayerspo
17:25.25Needle-BlaggyHi Xho
17:25.35Xho<PROTECTED>
17:25.51Needle-Blaggywhat
17:25.57Needle-Blaggyit's all blank
17:26.04Needle-Blaggy<PROTECTED>
17:26.12Needle-Blaggyhuh. so you can just send space.
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17:27.22Needle-Blaggyhello drom
17:27.27dromSo someone offer themselves to be a GM for a tabletop RPG called "Hollow Earth" - I joined.
17:27.33dromoffered even
17:27.37Needle-BlaggyWow
17:27.39dromHello, Needle-Blaggy.
17:28.53dromThinking of this, I wonder when will a heavily sci-fi one will come around the corner.
17:29.38dromIf I am not the one who is hosting it, of course.
17:29.38DrodoEmpireCharles_Murray: hur
17:30.52dromDrodoEmpire Charles_Murray Xho Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/SuT6w79.png
17:30.56dromAlso, Imperios.
17:31.46Xhomurica
17:32.27dromBesides. Xho: http://i.imgur.com/md01Fy1.png
17:33.38Imperiosdrom: But America cannot melt countries
17:33.41ImperiosClimate change does not exist
17:34.09dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/nlzu3gP.png
17:37.16Xho"XAXAXAXAXA"
17:37.33Needle-BlaggyXAXA
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17:38.41HellrockHello everyone.
17:39.06DrodoEmpireHi
17:40.30XhoDrom: very accurate
17:40.34Needle-Blaggy"IT WAS ROSJA, NO DOUBT!"
17:40.42Needle-BlaggyWITHOUT*
17:40.45Needle-BlaggyFUCK misquote
17:44.20Needle-Blaggyoh that was good read
17:52.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/2JojN3l
17:56.40Wormy_How do cats like fish when they don't like water?
17:56.40Needle-BlaggyHA Wormy_
17:56.46Wormy_Glitch in the Matrix much
17:56.51Hachimandrom: What's Hollow Earth like?
17:56.54Needle-BlaggyWormy_: not really>...?
17:57.33Wormy_Cats love fish, but they don't like going in water unless they are big cats
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17:58.09DrodoEmpireI think hatred of water is more a house cat thing
17:58.11DrodoEmpireAnd only some
17:58.42MonetMy family cat loved standing under a dipping tap.
17:58.49Wormy_Its always housecats that drag carp from the neighboring garden pond
17:58.58XhoCats are weird
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17:59.03DrodoEmpire^
17:59.23HachimanHi Tree, Oluap
18:00.08Wormy_How do whales drink, is another one
18:00.45DrodoEmpireHow come you can't sneeze and piss at the same time
18:00.46DrodoEmpire>.>
18:00.54TreebeardHello Hachi
18:01.12Wormy_(I know that they get it through digestion, I'm just shitpoisting at this point)
18:01.32Wormy_Drodo:  You can if you have a weak bladder hur
18:01.50DrodoEmpireAh fair enough
18:02.52HachimanWait
18:03.01HachimanYou can't sneeze and piss at the same time?
18:03.07HachimanI need to test this
18:05.37Wormy_Okay, get yourself really bursting, and then pour pepper in your nose
18:05.52Wormy_LA Beast style
18:06.19XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516589_1231400200217188_392841599135230182_n.jpg?oh=facc8d4c3043d33d090dfe7afd904365&oe=57FF7A20
18:06.38Wormy_If you injure yourself, do not hold me accountable.
18:06.49OluapPlayerhur
18:06.54HachimanXho: Norman Reedus and the Funky Fetus
18:08.03Wormy_bbl cooking dinner
18:16.35Xho"Music You Need to Hear"           "The Life of Pablo"
18:16.38Xhoitunes pls
18:19.58OluapPlayervote for pablo
18:20.26XhoNOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
18:26.18XhoHachiman: Well it's official, gonna see Animals As Leaders on the 18th July
18:26.28HachimanFuckin noice
18:26.43OluapPlayerAnimals As Leaders
18:26.48OluapPlayerdats jus the fantasyverse
18:27.15Xhoaye
18:27.22OluapPlayerhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CljoKUVWAAEhh3b.jpg #thuglife
18:27.38Xhodafuq
18:28.49DrodoEmpireV/\?
18:30.33HachimanV/\
18:30.55DrodoEmpireyus
18:32.03Xho|>
18:32.37OluapPlayerwat goin on
18:32.41Charles_MurrayApparently it takes two birds to turn on a cigarette. Noted.
18:33.11HachimanV/\ = Vape Naysh
18:33.16Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13406828_1734774710138772_336729748048312781_n.jpg?oh=e52452af7e893987ced71f614bf4f0f9&oe=57C710E6 Good lord what
18:33.33HachimanWhat the fuck
18:34.05MonetNot the Strangest ancient engraving I've ever seen
18:34.32Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13310335_1739746096301174_292497487900278172_n.jpg?oh=1ddce037d5fe275f42ca1969343ab74b&oe=5805A8BD here comes dat 19th dynasty
18:34.57DrodoEmpirehere come dat cancerous meme
18:34.58DrodoEmpire>.>
18:35.58Monet<PROTECTED>
18:36.07MonetA Roman Brothel
18:39.56Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11993281_1632993456983565_7648973337450268406_n.jpg?oh=f640f00d5d4cce4b7fff151bc27ebf5e&oe=57FA5829
18:41.19DrodoEmpireayy lmao
18:42.35Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11041640_1609558569327054_7980102762057064990_n.jpg?oh=2458222755b8ec9d4fa80f8889c47297&oe=580FCE97 Still the best
18:45.51XhoFunny because Freud believed that Moses originally believed in Aten and Judaism stemmed from Akhenaten
18:46.22XhoLikeliness of that being true is incredibly low
18:50.04XhoHachiman: You think the Sohet/Khaepsha have similar naming conventions to the Egyptians
18:50.16HachimanThat being
18:50.36HachimanTechnobliterator: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13522003_1605843273039310_1391443205468602007_n.png?oh=20271e0aba6ea7d88378829beb0d1bcc&oe=57FBEC07
18:50.51Technobliteratorhahaha yeah
18:50.53TechnobliteratorI heard that one
18:51.02XhoHachiman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_royal_titulary
18:51.53HachimanHm, interesting
18:53.03Xho"Horus Mighty Bull, Arising in Thebes, He of the Two Ladies, Enduring in kingship like Re in heaven, Horus of Gold Powerful of strength, Sacred of appearance, He of the Sedge and the Bee, Enduring of form is Re, Son of Ra, Thutmose, beautiful of forms"
18:53.07XhoEgyptians went full pelt on it
18:53.18Charles_Murray*BOINK* https://i.redd.it/qn64ypzxdu4x.gif
18:55.15dromHachiman: We've not gotten started with it yet
18:55.27dromBut it is basically 1930's, but with dinosaurs
18:55.30dromSo...
18:55.45dromIndiana Jones with Dinosaurs and Disney's Atlantis
18:56.04XhoHachiman OluapPlayer Imperios: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baka_(prince)
18:56.18OluapPlayerstep the fuck up senpai
18:56.50dromCharles_Murray: This is why impact bombs are better
18:57.22Xhou meen step the fuck up sˁ-Rˁ
18:57.37Charles_MurrayI think that was an impact bomb
19:04.28ImperiosXho: Funny because the Japanese refer to their loved ones as "brothers" and sisters"
19:05.09Xhodo dey nao
19:06.21ImperiosWait I thought that was a shared Korean-Japanese thing
19:07.24XhoNot something I'm aware of
19:09.06Imperios"onii-sama"
19:09.10ImperiosThat's what I was referring to
19:09.15ImperiosIs that like "oppa"?
19:09.33XhoI've never really heard it being used coloquially
19:11.51XhoLooking on the internet, it's Yakuza terminology
19:12.56MonetFeels wierd for it to be this light at 8pm
19:13.30MonetThe shops are closed, only resturaunts are open (some) but I could sit outside and watch the clouds.
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19:14.09CyrannianHello
19:14.16MonetHello
19:14.21TreebeardHello
19:14.25MonetFeel like sowrking on stuff...
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19:14.41TreebeardHello
19:15.14dino82_hi
19:15.17CyrannianHello dino!
19:15.33Monethello
19:16.08CyrannianMonet: I'm free if you want to work on one of our stories from a while back
19:16.35MonetI have an idea on what if Dino is also available.
19:23.34ImperiosMonet: Just go to Saint-Petersburg
19:23.56ImperiosTHe sun never sets on the last remnant of the Russian Empire
19:25.21Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13465933_494289974104438_234016144635246348_n.png?oh=98f264dfc7e862dfc2d0c0b3c829af8a&oe=57F2D8CA
19:26.31XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13434681_1730370857219698_1306445169060097024_n.jpg?oh=81a2b88d5f0dff63d4fc1971fa942d53&oe=57F6BEBF 10/10
19:26.40Hachimanhur
19:32.07OluapPlayereyebrow butt
19:41.03DrodoEmpiretest
19:43.37HachimanQuestion; is it pronounced "nekko" or "neeko"
19:46.39dino82_:d
20:12.27OluapPlayeru will never know
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20:14.07The_RandomnessHello
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20:18.01HachimanFuck
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21:05.14AdmiralPandahi all
21:07.29XhoHi
21:28.03XhoHachiman: nekko u dunce
21:28.14Hachimanrite
21:30.05XhoSeriously what is Death Stranding
21:32.50HachimanA funky fetus
21:34.37HachimanIn seriousness, it's Kojima's new game
21:34.46HachimanNo actual gameplay or plot details have been revealed yet
21:34.50Wormy_back
21:34.56HachimanAlthough the trailer is apparently representative of the game
21:36.53XhoSo
21:36.55XhoNuts
21:37.09Wormy_https://twitter.com/PessimistsArc/status/745633401324068864
21:37.46XhoThose were the days
21:37.55XhoNot that I remember most of it
21:38.20Wormy_I remember the age of floppy discs, dial up internet and chunky monitors
21:38.34XhoI remember dial up vaguely
21:39.09CyrannianSame, I remember the noise more than anything
21:39.09XhoI remember my sister setting up a computer back when this room was her bedroom
21:39.16XhoDunno how long ago that was now
21:39.21XhoMust be nearly 18 years ago
21:40.05XhoI never actually used the internet until 2006
21:41.23Wormy_I used to use the internet as a child, but only to look at deep marine lifeforms
21:41.33Wormy_Which I was obsessed with
21:41.44Wormy_Also played old Maxis games like SimLife
21:41.55Wormy_I remermber flash games too
21:41.57CyrannianI was obsessed with paint
21:42.11XhoThe Sims was the first video game I ever played
21:42.20XhoTo memory anyway
21:42.22dino82_Really?
21:42.24CyrannianThough I remember playing old Maxis games like SimPark and SimCopter
21:42.26dino82_Nice!
21:42.40Wormy_I wish Spore was more like SimEarth or SimLife
21:42.41XhoSpyro may have come before it
21:42.46dino82_My first game was either the first Pokemon game on the Gameboy or Tomb Raider at Windows 94, or MDK, one of the three
21:42.57Wormy_The depth of those games were huge, they just look crap
21:43.06XhoSimEarth
21:43.07Xhowow
21:43.08Xhodat game
21:43.29XhoI always had that game on the fastest speed and always lamented how the world ended after 10 billion years
21:43.36XhoNever understood why until about 15 years later
21:43.57dino82_MDK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LWrjeOHgjY
21:44.28Wormy_https://videogamesoftheoppressed.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/simlife.png
21:44.42XhoI vaguely remember my sister playing Silent Hill 1 when it came out, luckily I was not subject to its horror
21:44.44Wormy_There is something prophetic about Spore in that
21:45.05Hachiman>VAPING TESTICLE SWEAT: VOMIT ALERT
21:45.15HachimanState of YouTube these days
21:45.16XhoExcept I remember one small scene where there was probably a 10ft long smear of blood
21:45.36XhoHachiman: Well Franku needs to do the first three and he's embodied it
21:45.44Wormy_I became subject to the horrors of Animatric at a young age
21:45.55Wormy_Quite frankly couldn't sleep
21:46.39XhoNot quite sure what the scariest game I've ever played
21:46.41Xhois
21:48.34XhoThe only game that makes me jump nowadays is the Fallout games thanks to the severe lack of warning of NPCs coming to kill you
21:48.41Wormy_lol
21:49.02MonetXho: If I can find it, PC Gamer tied to dissect the meaning of Death Stranding's trailer
21:49.05XhoI had a bit of a jump the other day when I failed to see a Glowing Yao Guai right next to me
21:49.13Wormy_Being cornered by three Yao Guis made me scream like a girl, I didn't even know they were in the game
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21:49.27XhoAnd came across a Charred Feral Ghoul as well, shit's serious
21:49.52Wormy_I found Manhunt a bit gross, tbh
21:49.59XhoTheir base level is 62 and I'm level 51
21:50.05HachimanMonet: Send me that shit
21:50.22CyrannianI used to be terrified of the butler in that one Lara Croft game in the mansion
21:50.36Wormy_Also I played a game a bit like Silent Hill but where I was going through an old school, killing demonic teddies and stuff.  PS2 era
21:50.43MonetXho: Hachiman: http://www.pcgamer.com/kojima-a-baby-and-william-blake-an-attempt-to-analyze-death-stranding/
21:51.12MonetCyrannian: He was creepy. But I was one of those who liked locking him in the walk-in fridge.
21:51.50Wormy_Xho:  Feral Ghouls in F4 seem tobe super-sesitive
21:52.14Wormy_They start chasing even when I'm just being detected
21:52.17MonetHearing him panic as Lara leaps over him and then watching his arms and tea-tray clip though the door...good times.
21:52.39Wormy_Cyrannian:  Have you played any of the Fallout games yet?
21:53.01CyrannianIndeed, I got Fallout 4 at Christmas, which came with a free copy of F3
21:53.01XhoSeems like it
21:53.13XhoCyrannian: Oh god no not the butler
21:53.26Wormy_How are you finding it?
21:54.03Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxT8ie751rs
21:56.46CyrannianWormy_: I find it tough to get into, which is strange because I still regularly play Skyrim
21:57.16XhoFallout's always been tougher than Elder Scrolls
21:57.55MonetI got stabbed in the back by a GUnner with a knife yesterday.
21:57.58Wormy_I feel the gameplay isn't that special but the world and its silliness draws me into it
21:58.35Wormy_Being chased by a flaming robot that tried to give me coffee was hilarious
21:58.50Wormy_and blew up in the process
22:00.06CyrannianIndeed, the amount of times I randomly explode while exploring...
22:00.55MonetWatch out for mines
22:01.02MonetAlso be careful i nurban firefights
22:01.13AdmiralPandaFallout 4 made me very very happy for exactly one reason: Power Armour
22:01.23MonetEveryone in 2050s America decided it would be a great idea to install nuclear reactors i ntheir cars.
22:01.25AdmiralPandabut I still go back to NV for the story and roleplaying
22:02.10AdmiralPandaMonet: To be fair, their nuclear tech was a lot better than ours, and it's not like you need to put new fuel in on a regular basis, just coolant
22:02.29MonetStill
22:02.39AdmiralPandaI squeed a little when I realised that the fuel pumps are for coolant, thought that was a really nice touch
22:02.44CyrannianI do love the art style of course
22:03.08Wormy_!950's were going that way, you could get radioactive material in chemistry sets for children.
22:03.11AdmiralPanda^ especially the plasma rifle, I love the retro sci-fi look about it
22:03.13Wormy_1950's
22:03.30MonetStill, just a coupel of shots did this http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258210114350049303/8A81805C887595414040779A4AF7E926076F3B32/
22:03.30CyrannianI play as a lady because Jack from Mass Effect
22:03.31AdmiralPandamy plasma sniper might not be the best weapon but god do I love having it on my wall
22:03.58AdmiralPandaI've always played as a lady because A) Fallout 1 pregen character and B) Fallout NV's lesbian perk dialogue
22:04.13MonetI'm not complining because the chain reaction was awesome to watch.
22:04.17AdmiralPandawhich is why I was sad that they force you to be in a married relationship in 4, like bitch I wanna be a lesbian
22:04.22Wormy_Everything feels suped up in F4 compared to 3.  Blooming Blote flies actually hurt
22:04.46AdmiralPandaWormy_: That's cos they changed how the damage system works more than anything else
22:05.02Wormy_yeah
22:05.16AdmiralPandathe switch from damage threshold to damage resistance as the primary means of protection
22:05.29AdmiralPandaDT is a really interesting system from a mechanical standpoint; I love it
22:06.08AdmiralPandaoverall though, tbh I mostly now just play F4 for sniping, power armour and my settlement empire when my ego needs a stroke; everything else I go back to NV
22:06.33AdmiralPandamysterious magnum best gun ever, especially in a western-styled world
22:07.46Wormy_There is one really silly thing I don't like about F4, and that is that you can't put a weapon over your shoulders or in a holdster
22:07.55AdmiralPanda^
22:08.10AdmiralPandaI got a mod that adds holsters for pistols, but haven't been able to find one for other weapons
22:08.24AdmiralPandatbh most of my mods are purely cosmetic, only have three* that modify gameplay
22:08.28AdmiralPandamight be more but I think it's only 3
22:08.32AdmiralPandaoh that reminds me
22:09.04AdmiralPandaMonet: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6443/? this is the mod I was talking about that makes the Minutemen suck less
22:19.44Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13524349_1231570840200124_1901653449204804877_n.jpg?oh=025c3472df0eca9a522fc702ab525a71&oe=57C3FC70
22:21.37Cyrannianaye
22:22.05CyrannianI just did that conjuration ritual to get the Daedric armour
22:26.50MonetI think I might boot up Twitch and stream Fallout 4
22:27.52AdmiralPandadef watching that
22:28.15AdmiralPandaI will endeavour not to constantly talk in your ear about everything you're doing wrong :P
22:28.45MonetI might not be able ot keep track of the chat
22:29.17AdmiralPandaI'll steam message you then >:D
22:29.39AdmiralPandabut seriously I won't, unless it's something pretty significant
22:31.07AdmiralPandalet me know when you start
22:31.42Monet<PROTECTED>
22:32.13MonetSo every time I encounter Codsworth he calls me "Mr. Bastard"
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23:26.49AdmiralPandahttp://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561198037756929/ steam broadcast to watch Monet play
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23:31.25Charles_BotHey Technobliterator : Do you know if there's any way I could paint a cell within a table a given color?
23:31.39Charles_BotThe background of a cell, that is
23:33.41Technobliteratoryup
23:33.52Technobliteratorstyle="background-color:[here]"
23:34.59Charles_BotTyvm!
23:36.10dino82_New Rambo Nation Cadet Uniform around 15 AQF (upcoming timedate), a flightsuite uniform for Academy Cadets of Rambo Command: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sia_(Cadet)lARGE.png
23:37.51AdmiralPandahttp://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561198037756929/ URL might have changed to Monet's stream
23:38.24Charles_BotOooh! Very fancy! I love the collar
23:38.46Charles_BotInteresting to have a uniform change in Rambo Nation after so long
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23:39.56Charles_BotThey're going from a bright and shiny uniform to a darker and more serious one, it seems. Should we read into the change? ;)
23:41.50Charles_Botdino82_: inb4 Rambo nation's military alertness is reflected in its uniforms. The darker the uniform, the grimmer the situation is
23:42.14dino82_@Charles: Thanks! Yeah was in due time! And perhaps the military alertness does show itself.
23:42.16dino82_:D
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23:46.01dino82_hi
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23:51.24The_Randomnesshm
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