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01:15.54DrodoEmpireHi dino
01:17.54dino82_hi
01:28.49dino82_howz all doing
01:29.07DrodoEmpireI'm good. You?
01:42.13dino82_I am great as well, thanks!
01:53.27dino82_oh have to go again see ya
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01:55.10The_RandomnessHello
01:55.27Tek0516O.o All forms of audio and video on my laptop suddenly stopped working suddenly regardless of the player.
01:56.36The_RandomnessInteresting
01:56.52The_RandomnessDrodoEmpire: What time zone are you in? jw
01:57.18Tek0516I just killed everything except a virus scan and it started working again.
01:57.29Tek0516And hello The_Randomness
01:57.30The_Randomnesshuh
01:57.58Tek0516And I think DrodoEmpire is in Atlantic Standard Time.
01:57.58DrodoEmpireAtlantic Standard Time- I live in Nova Scotia
01:57.59DrodoEmpire:p
01:58.27Tek0516Well Atlantic Daylight Time more specifically I think. :P
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11:02.13AdmiralPandahi all
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12:15.16JepardiHi
12:17.59GhelaeHi
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14:15.15AdmiralPandahi all
14:17.35OluapPlayerHi
14:25.31MonetExpanding on funny moments for Sporewiki's TV tropes here and can I get any help
14:26.03MonetI thin I hae a fairly loose sense of humour so help with what's funny is appreciated.
14:27.13MonetAt the moment what I have is just the stuff from Realm of Giants, specifically when Jerkon is pretending ot be a zombie, when Mithra talks about how smashed Kragh gets drinking the waters around Mithra's palace
14:27.26MonetAnd that time Koluap's tail caught fire inside an armoury.
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14:56.44HachimanHi
14:58.05Monethi
14:58.47GhelaeHi
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15:06.38CyrannianHi
15:12.48GhelaeHi
15:14.41OluapPlayerHi
15:15.10Cyranniany u physically attack me
15:15.14Cyrannian*no
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15:17.06ImpyDroidHi
15:17.20GhelaeHi
15:18.22ImpyDroidWormy_:  http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/05/18/barack-hussein-obama-accelerates-his-emasculation-jihad-on-the-u-s-military/ An *anti-Muslim* website complaining about women in military
15:20.33ImpyDroid"We hate Muslims but we should also act like Salafis"
15:27.22ImpyDroid"It’s VITAL that any straight men who want to join the military MUST take self-defence training and become very proficient in self-defence before they ever enter the military — in order to defend themselves from Gay Sex-Attackers Obama MALICIOUSLY placed into the U.S. military.
15:27.26ImpyDroidOh God what
15:31.12CyrannianYou look at strange websites, Impy
15:31.39OluapPlayerCyrannian: work on war pls
15:32.31CyrannianI have stoopid job in an hour so no time until this evening
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15:42.43XhoTHE DARK LORD IS HERE
15:43.39MonetBoo
15:45.04OluapPlayerget lighted on
15:47.19HachimanORE WA OCHINCHIN GA DAISUKE NANDAYO
15:55.03WormydroidA dark Lord amogst dark lords
15:59.48WormydroidOlol I just unleashed a massive burp on the train forgetting I was in public
16:00.24Xho#NORTHERNERS
16:00.41HachimanFucking barbarians
16:04.35Monethttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Funny/SporeWikiFictionUniverse can i get some help filling this out?
16:05.41OluapPlayerI've nothing to add that i've not added already
16:06.50MonetNothing from Her Mongrel WOlf or anything like that?
16:07.21OluapPlayerI don't recall any humorous moment worth noting in that story
16:07.23Xho"After returning to Kithworto's apartment after a long trek through Insomnia, Arkarixus emerged from Kithworto's bedroom and struggled desperately to explain to Kithworto that nothing at all happened on his bed as Kalcedia spreads herself seductively across it."
16:07.39XhoKithworto - i left that universe and that desecrated bed
16:07.58OluapPlayerNu - is my bed now
16:08.38XhoI could imagine Nu taking over the apartment after Kithworto's disappearance
16:08.44Xhofree penthouse woo
16:09.03MonetI was wondering about adding that time the Draconizane captain caught Hachi with his face in her undie drawer but Hachi could have a section all to himself like the Loron do.
16:09.31OluapPlayerI do imagine that thing with Arkarixus on Kithworto's bed was not consensual from his part
16:09.34OluapPlayertwas rape
16:10.27XhoSantorakh - heh
16:10.33Hachimantfw Kalcedia raped an ancient psychic demigod supersoldier
16:10.48Xho#fictionuniverse
16:11.06OluapPlayerIn truth Arkarixus feels indifference-to-disgust regarding Kalcedia
16:11.16OluapPlayerMy headcanon is Santorakh possessed him and made him do it
16:11.31OluapPlayerShe literally got the cheese
16:12.15HachimanHachi's been involved in so much stuff I wouldn't know what tropes or particular moments apply to him
16:12.51Xho"fucked up"
16:15.17MonetWorking on this page made me realise the comedy might not be my forte.
16:15.43MonetI can throw in some lighthearted stuff, but actual comedy a rarity for me.
16:18.37AdmiralPandaPanda - Comedy? Is this some new kind of gore?
16:21.23MonetDrama horror and action is easy, romance I can manage but depends on the moment (possibly).
16:22.58MonetGrukarb's probably my only successful attempt at comic-relief.
16:24.23AdmiralPandaromance I can do pretty well, but I'm best suited to battles
16:25.40HachimanSpeaking of combat
16:25.46HachimanDOOM looks pretty good and I want it
16:25.58HachimanFor the campaign more than the multiplayer
16:26.11AdmiralPandayeah, it does look really good
16:27.31MonetBethesda shot itself in the foot with marketing focus on multiplayer.
16:27.53MonetBut agreed the game looks like the shooter we've all missed.
16:27.57AdmiralPandayeah, from what I hear the multiplayer is actually pretty solid, but the campaign should have been the selling point
16:28.03HachimanAye
16:28.11AdmiralPandait's blood and guts and glorious devastation
16:29.21HachimanI also like the fact that the story is minimal and there's no real RPG elements or complex plot brought into it
16:30.02AdmiralPandamhm, and how it's not exaggerated how little the Doom Marine gives a shit about plot, it's right on the money
16:30.08HachimanAye
16:30.21AdmiralPandalike, duke nukem would smash a screen then give it the finger, DM just smashes the screen and leaves
16:31.19HachimanAlso I love the glory kill system
16:31.28AdmiralPandamhm
16:31.44AdmiralPandareminds me of the execution system in 40k Space Marine
16:31.51MonetI did a brief essay november-december time that partially looked at the action hero evolved form James Bond to John Rambo and then to Neo and Jason Borune.
16:31.55HachimanYeah, now that you mention it
16:32.38HachimanYou get to stamp heads Dead Space-style and fucking kill demons with their own torn off arms
16:32.43AdmiralPandayou would know better than I, but british heroes in general tend to be more of the Bond style, Americans being more Rambo
16:32.56AdmiralPandawhat's really interesting is the detective genre
16:33.26AdmiralPandawhich basically underwent divergent evolution as it moved to America from Britain
16:35.01MonetYes but during the 90s and onwards the action hero (at least in films) stopped being the Rambo/Armie style one-man army.
16:35.30HachimanEh, debatable
16:35.45HachimanI mean you're probably right
16:35.52AdmiralPandaI meant british/european heroes tend to be more the refined style, while americans are more balls-out
16:36.14HachimanAdmiralPanda: Because Europeans, other than Slavs, are not savages
16:36.21MonetAdmiralPanda: I was mainly looking at American cinema in my essay
16:36.38AdmiralPandaMonet: fair enough then, that makes more sense
16:36.44MonetI mentioned James Bond, yes, but also Dirty Harry.
16:38.38XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman Technobliterator: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13240055_1212202085470333_8638981744604995665_n.jpg?oh=575b91bee975832d516faa7c21367560&oe=57E61684
16:38.47Hachimanhur
16:38.54OluapPlayerwow
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16:39.12Wormy_hi
16:39.23MonetHi
16:39.26GhelaeHi
16:39.30HachimanHi
16:40.07Technobliteratorhahahaha
16:40.08Technobliteratornice
16:40.50AdmiralPandaWatching a youtuber read out business email
16:41.19AdmiralPandahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzq2SJ5d6nM god this is funny XD
16:41.43Hachimandat hair
16:42.08AdmiralPandaI know
16:42.12AdmiralPandait's F*CKING CURLY
16:42.17AdmiralPandasorry, that was an in joke
16:42.40MonetDoom Guy, BJ Blazkowitz and the Gears of War team are attempts to relive that 80s charm in an age where most action heroes are more like Captain Price.
16:42.54MonetIn videogameland*
16:43.03Technobliteratorone more exam left
16:43.04Technobliterator:oo
16:43.48HachimanDifference is that Doomguy and BJ were products of the 80s as far as I know
16:44.00AdmiralPandahell, his name is BJ
16:44.04AdmiralPandathat ain't a modern character
16:44.11Wormy_So h3h3 are being sued https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGVOysbC8w
16:44.22HachimanWormy_: Saw that, it's rather unfortunate
16:44.26Hachiman$100,000 as well
16:44.58MonetHachiman: That's true, but unlike Duke Nukem, they survived the transition.
16:45.34AdmiralPandawhich is because Duke Nukem is so outrageously incorrect that you just can't market it to the general audience today :P
16:45.53HachimanAnd the fact that Duke Nukem was kept in development for like 11 years
16:46.38MonetDoom was in development for osmething like 8.
16:46.48Wormy_Looks on Bold Guy's channel. Most of his videos are 99% disliked
16:46.52MonetAnd like Duke Nukem, it changed hands
16:47.22HachimanI don't think so
16:47.28HachimanDOOM was always made by id Software
16:47.57HachimanIt changed publishers sure, though
16:48.17MonetRight maybe that.
16:48.23MonetI'm tired atm
16:48.59HachimanWolfenstein was the one that changed hands
16:49.12MonetBut development for this Doom did start wayy back in 2008.
16:49.16XhoThe New Order's OST is still great
16:49.20XhoTerrifying but gret
16:49.22Xhogreat even
16:50.43HachimanFrom what I know of Wolfenstein: The New Order, it seems that it and DOOM took opposite approaches; Wolfenstein modernized itself while DOOM went back to its roots
16:50.51HachimanFeel free to correct me on that
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16:51.18MonetYou're part right
16:51.35HachimanMeanwhile Nuke Dukem: Never got the poor end of the stick
16:52.37MonetTNO does include modern ideas like stealth, scopes, regernating health and cover shooting, but it also maintained staples of its time like crazy-massive levels, secret areas, medpacks and collectables.
16:52.56HachimanDidn't TNO also have branching story and narrative?
16:53.22MonetThere was only one brnach but I guess that counts.
16:53.36Monetbrancing point, sorry.
16:53.41Monetbah
16:55.18MonetOne of the things I did like about TNO was it took a fresh perspective on the Nazis.
16:56.24MonetWe saw much more of Nazi philosophy than the goose-stepping and Jew-killing that pretty-much everyone does.
16:58.37MonetFor instance there's a letter you can find in one level where a soldier is writing to a lonely-hearts organisation and writes "capable of bearing many children" as a desired quality in the type of woman he was looking for.
16:59.16Tek0516http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1464187929-20160525.png
17:02.02MonetBerlin looks like this http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/wolfenstein/images/4/4f/Berlin_1960.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150327134858 yet here's an actual plan for Pberlin concieved by Hitler http://i.imgur.com/F6uoQ.jpg
17:02.14MonetThat's what I like about TNO anyway.
17:02.21MonetThey made the Nazis interesting.
17:19.20GhelaeWormy_: http://www.nature.com/news/has-a-hungarian-physics-lab-found-a-fifth-force-of-nature-1.19957
17:20.59GhelaeWon't lead to cold fusion, though. Tunnelling by 17 MeV particle would only bring the temperature requirements for nuclear fusion down by an order of magnitude or so.
17:24.49Wormy_Still, I imagine that might be useful.  But if its the case, would we have to account for it in stellar nucleosynthesis and evolution?
17:25.40Wormy_Though if stellar cores don't have to be as hot, that doesn't mean they are any cooler as predicted I guess
17:26.39GhelaeFor all I know it may not make any difference within a stellar plasma, given how weakly interacting it is.
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17:28.20GhelaeMy calculation was just "how hot does the plasma need to be for the distance of closest approach to equal the decay length of a 17 MeV particle".
17:29.33GhelaeI suppose I should have subtracted the radius of the nucleus from that.
17:31.39GhelaeThat's about 1/5 the decay length, so it would make a difference... but it's an extremely crude calculation regardless.
17:36.18Wormy_bbl
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17:37.07The_RandomnessHello
17:37.09AdmiralPandahi u
17:37.18The_Randomnessey
18:00.52OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qzC5cUQcFk Civ 6 gameplay
18:05.36HachimanNice
18:05.44HachimanAlso, I just realized something about the new DOOM
18:06.30HachimanDue to the Glory Kill system, it looks like that the Doom Marine punching a demon in the face is actually more powerful than him shooting them with a shotgun
18:06.54OluapPlayerWhoever calls him Doom Marine
18:06.57OluapPlayerHe's Doomguy
18:07.02HachimanThat's what he's called in DOOM
18:07.30OluapPlayerbleh
18:08.59MonetTHat's what other people call him
18:09.06Monetotherp eopel ingame*
18:09.20MonetAlthough in the original game, he didn't have any name at all.
18:11.03OluapPlayerYes, and the fanbase gave him the name of Doomguy
18:16.56MonetPunching the demon makes a lot of sense to me.
18:16.59MonetIt's manly.
18:19.07HachimanThere's actually a power-up which lets the Doom Marine use his fists to either insta-kill or deal massive damage against demons if I recall
18:19.17HachimanBerserk
18:20.14OluapPlayerYes, that's been around since the first game
18:20.43OluapPlayerBut without it, punching deals scratch damage
18:21.50HachimanSo yeah, his fists are even more dangerous than the guns he uses
18:21.55HachimanExcept maybe the BFG
18:24.47AdmiralPandaglory kills do require you to deal some damage to the enemy already though
18:59.57ImpyDroidMonet: There is one thing about Nazi architecture I like and that is their idea of "ruin value"
19:00.29ImpyDroidBasically the Nazis believed that, even abandoned, a building should look pretty
19:00.54ImpyDroidSo it must be constructed in such a way that its ruins would look impressive
19:01.41MonetI can understand that
19:01.49MonetImmortal architecture
19:05.41MonetSo that even after you leave, your legacy will inspire locals long after the building's purpose has expired.
19:08.34Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rlSj34H
19:08.55Xhowell alright then
19:09.31ImpyDroidWormy_away: Cyrannian's plan foiled
19:10.44Wormy_People boasting how they played GTAV at 12.  I was giveb Manhunt at age 8 http://imgur.com/gallery/zgGkV
19:10.52Xhou fuked up
19:11.03Wormy_Alright, I did
19:11.11Wormy_GTA games then
19:11.38Monet12?
19:11.49XhoI was playing Mortal Kombat at 10
19:11.49MonetMore like 10 and 11
19:12.00XhoAlthough Mortal Kombat was overtly gratuitous and comical
19:12.46Wormy_I remember using plasric bags to suffocate people in Manhunt.  But honestly, I didn't like it that much
19:13.31Xho"wasn't violent enough" - Wormulon, 2005
19:13.35XhoOr whenever
19:13.38Xho2002
19:18.05Wormy_I was disappointed that heads wouldn't be decapitated and kicked about in GTA San Andreas like they could be in Vice City.
19:33.37MonetI don't think I noticed that omittance
19:33.47MonetThe thing I loved most in SA was the jetpack.
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19:39.06Wormy_Wow http://imgur.com/gallery/Aozm1
19:39.47Hachiman"It's basically ludicrous illusions of masculinity undone by a vagina with tusks." - One reviewer's brief summary of Predator
19:40.04Xhodeemuns
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19:42.52ImpyDroidWormy_: http://2static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Agrees+there+is+nothing+like+turning+people+into+dinosaurs+_77951803ded57005f79612df51e80b93.png
19:45.32XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/YOIV999 Good lord
19:46.09HachimanJesus
19:46.12HachimanThat's pretty good
19:46.26OluapPlayerYep
19:49.57Xho"What you should do now is hire some fat guy to walk next to you with a piece of paper tapped to him that has "Smough" written on it."
19:51.15XhoI didn't realise how disproportionately monstrous Smough was
19:51.24Xhofukn fat bastard dat
19:52.06XhoAlso why is every boss in Dark Souls like 4 metres tall
19:52.08Xhoat least
19:52.15HachimanHe's actually supposed to be muscular as fuck beneath his armour from what I know
19:52.43XhoOrnstein's like twice the size of the player as it is
19:52.45HachimanSize correlates with how powerful your soul is as far I am aware
19:52.57HachimanMight be wrong
19:53.55HachimanThen again, natural giants are a thing in Dark Souls
19:53.59MonetIt could take me an hour to list the number of leaders bosses in WoW wh oare gigantic despite being relatively mortal.
19:55.01XhoArtorias looks like a hard boss as well
19:55.09MonetIt could simply be that as player's were used to facing opponents so large they could win by pretty-much stepping on the hero.
19:55.16HachimanAye he is
19:55.41HachimanThing about Artorias is that you fight him while he is insane and comparatively crippled
19:56.02HachimanPeople like to think that he would be almost outright impossible if he was fighting in his prime
20:00.40Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/TscmG
20:04.06MonetMid-air refueling:Total respect ot everyone who does it
20:04.57OluapPlayerIt's unknown how much the boss sizes are actually relevant
20:05.12OluapPlayerThe main reason they're large is the gameplay
20:05.45MonetBut peopel love ot make theories
20:06.34OluapPlayerYes, because it's unconfirmed whether everyone is gigantic or if you're just a midget
20:06.40Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/EHkQuc4
20:06.48MonetThe bosses in WoW are made for a similar reason - you need some way to pick out the due you have to kill among the 20 peopel surrounding him also trying to cut his head off.
20:07.53OluapPlayerAlso, Artorias would be perfectly killable in his prime, because we can kill the guy who crippled him in the first place
20:08.01HachimanTrue
20:08.51Xhohttp://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/05/25/man-has-a-existential-crisis-with-a-spambot/ My general conversational skill
20:09.10HachimanI remember that
20:09.16MonetWormy_: I find it interesting how much this issue comes u pwith Anime.
20:09.25Wormy_Interesting character classification http://imgur.com/gallery/tSFJw
20:09.35Wormy_yeah
20:09.55XhoHuh well that actually is interesting
20:10.10MonetMany American films are already dubbed into languages suited for the audience.
20:10.29OluapPlayerThis is just for humanoid bosses though, there's no need to explain why the monsters are large
20:10.37XhoNot sure where my fantasy characters in that though
20:10.59XhoWell, Ndrhthryr is 101% Warrior
20:11.22MonetIn fact if you watch an American film i nthe cinema abroad, chances are you're getting non-English dialogue. So (aside from dub quality) I hold the opinion the dub v sub argument is overblown.
20:12.34ImpyDroidIf you ask me, I prefer subtitles when needed
20:12.52MonetWhatch whatever version you like jsuit don't bash people just because they like to watch their favourite TV shows in their own language.
20:13.56MonetIf the dub is of poor quality, fair enough. But I think most of our first experiences of Pokemon's Anime was the dub.
20:15.53OluapPlayerOnly people who watch subbed Pokemon are those watching the episodes before they're released outside of Japan
20:16.38XhoNot quite sure about the rest of my characters though, Mhor probably falls in the more extreme end of the Fighter rank as well and probably geared further towards Mage than Ndrhthryr
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20:16.58OluapPlayerur not away
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20:18.19XhoKhaadun and Longinus are around the Paladin sort of area
20:19.01MonetOluapPlayer:Which was harder to do pre-2000.
20:19.03OluapPlayermore like mass murderer who should be in jail
20:19.06OluapPlayerVIOLATED THE LAW
20:19.24XhoKhaadun - pls
20:19.29XhoHow did you find Oblivion btw
20:19.50OluapPlayerWell
20:19.56OluapPlayerI can't give an opinion yet
20:20.01HachimanI would say Khaadun is not all that much of a paladin
20:20.08OluapPlayerBut the argonians are goddamn hideous
20:20.16MonetRasist
20:20.20Xhodunt u be horribl to lizard peepl
20:20.31OluapPlayeri can be horribl, i'm playing one
20:20.35Xhodam u
20:20.37OluapPlayerand I'm butt-ugly
20:20.39Wormy_I want to know what this looked like from the ground http://imgur.com/gallery/ewSNWPf
20:20.56XhoAlthough I have to admit their water-breathing attribute is good
20:21.03XhoI always play Redguard first time around
20:21.33XhoHachiman: Where would you put Khaadun then
20:22.05OluapPlayerBerserker or Dark Knight
20:22.10Xhorly nao
20:22.15XhoHe has magical power tho
20:22.17HachimanI was gonna say
20:22.33HachimanSo do Dark Knights
20:22.37HachimanThat or Death Knight
20:22.40OluapPlayerYeah, destructive psycho magic
20:22.46OluapPlayerdat no paladin bruh
20:22.53XhoKhaadun - *will of siqis'shazun
20:22.59XhoDeath Knight works I guess
20:23.00MonetMagic needs to be holy
20:23.03HachimanMaybe a Cleric or Battle-priest
20:23.14HachimanDeath Knight I feel works best though
20:23.22XhoLonginus is geared further towards fighter than mage
20:23.34XhoSince his spear is actually more like a magical rocket launcher than a staff
20:23.45HachimanStill magic
20:23.53XhoFair enough
20:24.11XhoTo be honest Longinus probably fits exactly in the middle between fighter and mage
20:24.13Wormy_magic of the internet http://imgur.com/gallery/NXFVDjx
20:24.20XhoSeptimus I have no clue
20:24.22HachimanLike, many mages do not use staffs to fight hur
20:24.46XhoSeptimus is probably much further down the route of mage than fighter
20:24.53OluapPlayerSeptimus never uses magic
20:25.03XhoVery rarely
20:25.05HachimanI was going to ask about Septimus' magic
20:25.09OluapPlayerNever has used in any story
20:25.18OluapPlayerThen again he never fights either
20:25.27XhoIn terms of comparison, Septimus' magical power is a candle and Longinus is more or less not
20:25.44OluapPlayerNorrigan - hold bout u hold on my candle
20:25.44HachimanSeptimus needs to level up bruh
20:26.07HachimanOnly stuck on Level 1 spells and cantrips
20:26.10HachimanOr orisons
20:26.15HachimanCannot remember which goes for which
20:26.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/yqjdEkB
20:26.39XhoIn terms of swordsmanship Septimus can hold himself against most but it would be an unfair comparison against those who Kinmo has trained
20:26.43OluapPlayerIt goes to "talking about D&D terminology to people who don't play it"
20:26.44OluapPlayerdunce
20:27.00XhoKalarah on the other hand
20:27.02Hachimanfuk off
20:27.15XhoSorceror or thereabouts
20:27.46XhoI don't think Kalarah has actually ever used a weapon in fiction
20:27.59XhoAll of it is cataclysmic magic
20:28.24HachimanI wouldn't think he needed a weapon at this point
20:28.49XhoKalarah - of course not     level 150 sorceror get fucked
20:29.04Xhosorcerer even
20:29.25HachimanI reckon you would enjoy Pathfinder / D&D if you had the patience for it
20:29.32Xholol
20:29.34XhoI have no patience
20:29.39XhoThis is known
20:29.43HachimanNote "if"
20:29.46AdmiralPandaI think we've talked about this already
20:29.56XhoMhor though
20:30.06XhoMhor is very much a fighter but has magical tendencies
20:30.31XhoI'd say Berserker or Sentinel
20:30.36XhoProbably Berserker
20:31.01HachimanBard best class
20:31.01HachimanI like how Bard is near the very centre of that diagram
20:31.04XhoRiad and Pelagrios are outliers though
20:31.08The_RandomnessBard is best support
20:31.11XhoThey're much further towards rogue than the other two
20:31.43HachimanI was gonna say that Pelagrios fits both Rogue and Fighter criteria
20:32.07XhoDuelist then        funny because Pelagrios does fuck all
20:33.01ImpyDroidWormy_: There were a few protests on land reform in Kazakhstan recently
20:33.14XhoRiad's a bit strange though
20:33.17AdmiralPandaalso, I'm really way late to the Dark Souls discussion, so a few things:
20:33.18XhoI'd say he's a Hunter
20:33.33AdmiralPanda1) the reason a lot of dudes are way bigger than you is they're legitimately way bigger than you, they're called Giants for a reason
20:33.36XhoPossibly Marksman
20:34.58Wormy_ImpyDroid:  What sort of land reform?
20:35.02AdmiralPanda2) the soul=size thing has no in-lore grounding, but it's basically the best explanation that exists for Sif, so yeah
20:35.03HachimanRiad's never used a gun tho
20:35.31AdmiralPandaand Artorias is badass period, just the Chosen Undead is god-fucking levels of badass
20:35.36ImpyDroidNazarbayev started selling land in Kazakhstan
20:36.16ImpyDroidThe Kazakhs are fearing this will allow their country to be subsumed by Chinese
20:36.23ImpyDroid*China
20:36.50XhoHachiman: Archer then
20:37.23XhoWell being a Néva Riad is skilled in using most low-tech weapons
20:37.26Hachimanhttps://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/13238866_1721220151459796_8644016480932404195_n.jpg?oh=9fc41ef1b1a6eec924d2b9a9de39b038&oe=57D1E999 "I usually draw the line at eating ass"
20:37.26XhoSpears mostly
20:38.11AdmiralPandathe term Marksman first came into being in about the 10th century, so you don't need to have a gun to be one :P
20:38.27MonetWas going to say
20:38.35MonetYou can be a marksman was an archer
20:38.51ImpyDroidWormy_: https://youtu.be/pAPhtHk3pjU
20:38.53HachimanAh
20:38.59XhoBone-Breaker probably falls into Sentinel or a little further towards mage
20:39.10Wormy_Hachiman:  Kept a bit of the horses' hoof though
20:39.12XhoDark Knight works
20:39.48XhoMaguruk and Tiritchik are Death Knights/Battlemages
20:39.59XhoAssrivak is...no clue
20:40.05XhoFast and annoying
20:40.41XhoKinmorunddraver -> Bard               "seriously you're giving me a lute here"
20:40.58HachimanBards can do anything tho
20:41.11The_Randomnessyeah, pretty much
20:41.22MonetHachiman: FUnnily enough I saw that picture on Twitter
20:41.34AdmiralPandaanything except seriously announce their job title :P
20:41.50Monet"where do you draw the line?" "about here"
20:42.19HachimanThey cast spells, they are proficient with select weapons, and can perform many skills while being either charismatic or stealthy
20:42.32AdmiralPandathing I dislike about that triangle is a lot of it looks like general numpty-talk, like I fail to see how a Weapon-master is less of a fighter than a warrior
20:42.59MonetBards in Dragon Age are entertainers, diplomats, spies and assassins in one package.
20:43.06AdmiralPandaespecially since they list "adventurer" as a class when adventurer is a thing you are not a class
20:43.23HachimanI think Warlord is a really obscure Pathfinder class somewhere
20:43.28HachimanMaybe 3rd Party
20:43.31XhoHm here's one
20:43.33XhoArcturus
20:43.59AdmiralPandaWarlord's a 4e, pretty sure 2e
20:44.02HachimanAh
20:44.19MonetI recall Warlord might predate Pathfinder yeah
20:44.28HachimanDidn't know there was a 4e
20:44.33AdmiralPandaalthough most of these things don't look like D&D classes (unless you count the fucktillion variants)
20:44.40AdmiralPanda4e is blasphemy and that's all you need to know
20:44.52MonetNo one talks about 4e
20:44.52HachimanMaybe we should play it sometime
20:44.55AdmiralPandamore accurately, it was an attempt to "MMO-ify" D&D as a way of attracting new players
20:45.03AdmiralPandaWE ARE NOT PLAYING 4TH FUCKING EDITION
20:45.07Hachimankek
20:45.11MonetWe just went straight from 3.5e t o5e
20:45.19XhoLoremaster works I guess for Arcturus
20:45.27AdmiralPandaseriously though, nobody talks about 4e because 4e is shit
20:45.30HachimanMonet: Don't forget Pathfinder in between 3.5 and 5e
20:45.58AdmiralPandatechnically pathfinder is between 3 and 3.5, but also it's by a different company
20:46.03HachimanOh right
20:46.08XhoOr maybe Spellsword
20:46.31AdmiralPandaso the comparison to D&D beyond "it came after 3e OGL" is chronological really
20:46.46ImpyDroidHm
20:46.58ImpyDroidDoes Pathfinder have the tinker class
20:47.00AdmiralPanda5e I've heard *interesting* things about from my face to face group
20:47.04The_RandomnessI've heard 5th edition is nice
20:47.11Hachiman5e does sound interesting
20:47.27HachimanImpyDroid: It has an Alchemist class
20:47.30AdmiralPandaI am somewhat tempted to give it a try, but I'm also slightly terrified by small creatures
20:47.50The_Randomnesssmall creatures?
20:47.54AdmiralPandabecause unlike in previous editions, there's no size modifier to dice categories
20:48.00The_Randomnessoh
20:48.02HachimanHuh
20:48.19AdmiralPandaso a rapier does 1d6 damage no matter what's wielding it, cue my friend's pixie rogue who does approximately double the average damage of the fighter
20:48.20ImpyDroidSo Lekren would be a tiny dragonborn alchemist
20:48.22HachimanImpyDroid: Alchemists create Jackyll and Hyde style mutagens, bombs, and magical extracts
20:48.31HachimanAnd he would be a kobold hur
20:48.38ImpyDroidKobold could work too
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20:48.54ImpyDroidI actually had D&D kobolds in mind when creating Klaxxs
20:48.59XhoWell I was gonna say where Taihadrae would fit
20:48.59MonetOr that other diminuative creature we do not speak of.
20:49.02XhoThen I saw 'Necromancer'
20:49.04ImpyDroid*Klaxxa
20:49.04Xhothere we go
20:49.13ImpyDroidI could as well call them kobolds
20:49.14HachimanMonet: Kender?
20:49.21AdmiralPandaI'd be up for trying it, but that would involve someone running it :P
20:49.22XhoEsulus I'm not so sure about either
20:49.53HachimanI'd be up for trying it but that would involve getting to know the rules and putting them into application
20:50.12HachimanApparently 5E is less rules and numbers heavy as Pathfinder
20:50.15The_RandomnessYeah, I'd be up for running it as well
20:50.40AdmiralPandatbh being less rules and numbers heavy than 3e variants is not difficult XD
20:50.46Hachimanhur
20:50.51Hachimanbut muh numbers
20:51.01XhoMaras and Esulus would fall into the same class but what class would that be
20:51.03OluapPlayerImplying you care for numbers
20:51.11HachimanI care about numbers
20:51.13OluapPlayerfish that also doesn't fight
20:51.13AdmiralPandaimplying you can do numbers without me anyway :P
20:51.17Hachimanhur
20:51.30HachimanI'm getting better
20:51.49AdmiralPandaif we do play 5e I know exactly what I'm playing
20:52.04The_RandomnessI'll have to do some reading for 5e
20:52.17AdmiralPandaGreat Old One pact Warlock :P
20:52.21Hachimanhur
20:52.28ImpyDroid<PROTECTED>
20:52.34HachimanI would say she does
20:53.33ImpyDroidAren't D&D Inqs more magic-oriented?
20:53.35The_RandomnessI'd probably play a Bard, because support is fun
20:53.59HachimanThey're melee-oriented with secondary focus on magic
20:54.14HachimanThere is also an archetype that is allowed to use guns I believe
20:54.20ImpyDroidGun is goos
20:54.27HachimanWell I say melee-oriented, they can do melee and ranged weaponry
20:54.31ImpyDroidI'd play as a healer because healing for life
20:54.41ImpyDroidBut you guys won't let me play with you will you
20:54.45AdmiralPandathey're all *allowed* to use guns, if guns are a thing in the setting
20:55.10HachimanYou always say you're not available
20:55.11AdmiralPandain general I'd be up for playing basically anything that isn't a pants-on-head system tbh
20:55.13ImpyDroidOr shooting shit
20:55.15ImpyDroidYeah that too
20:55.33HachimanAdmiralPanda: needs call of cthulhu
20:55.34ImpyDroidI'll be available somewhere around July/August I think
20:55.45OluapPlayerYou're always unavailable plus you have a little monster in your house that always makes you leave for at least an hour
20:55.57OluapPlayerAlso timezones
20:56.05HachimanHow can you kill D&D monsters if you cannot kill them in real life fagit
20:56.13HachimanAnd you call yourself a samurai
20:56.42ImpyDroidHm
20:56.52ImpyDroidCan monks heal in D&D?
20:57.00HachimanThere is a healing archetype but it's shit
20:57.16HachimanMonks are not great healers but there is a Warpriest archetype which is melee-focused that can cast healing spells
20:57.27HachimanUnarmed-focus even
20:57.30OluapPlayerTime to go back to being a ganking shitter in DS3
20:57.33HachimanSacred Fist I think the name is
20:57.47HachimanOluapPlayer: I bet you play a DEX build faggot
20:57.56OluapPlayer40 STR get on my level
20:59.33HachimanOne thing I need to either play or set my players up against
20:59.36HachimanHavel the Rock
20:59.48OluapPlayerStunlock him with an estoc
20:59.49OluapPlayerdone
20:59.53Hachimanfuk off
21:00.12HachimanI'll make you fight him naked and fish for backstabs
21:00.24HachimanLike how it was done in the good old days after Demon's Souls
21:00.32AdmiralPandaImpyDroid: if you want to play a healer, Cleric
21:00.44HachimanOr Oracle with Life Mystery
21:00.45ImpyDroidBut I already played cleric
21:00.48ImpyDroid...I think
21:00.55ImpyDroid...If I remember correctly
21:01.05HachimanYou played a Wizard I believe
21:01.13The_Randomnessyeah
21:01.15The_Randomnesshe did
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21:02.16ALaggyPandaI'd still probably say cleric over life oracle, but the latter is an option too yeah
21:02.24ALaggyPandajust in terms of raw healing ability
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21:05.31DrodoEmpireHi everyone
21:06.11The_RandomnessHey
21:06.31The_RandomnessDrodoEmpire: I'm available if you want to work some more on that super collab stuff
21:06.45DrodoEmpireAlright, maybe in a bit
21:07.00DrodoEmpireI've been busy this week, so sorry for not being around for that >.<
21:07.23The_Randomnessnp
21:07.51The_RandomnessJust ping me when you want to do it
21:09.18HachimanSo apparently, David Cameron has issued a protocol where if the UK successfully votes to leave the E.U., Godzilla will attack from the south and make his destructive way up north
21:12.07Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/3GibQ
21:14.24XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/epicposts/videos/1523907597918361/ Plots in the Fantasyverse are as follows
21:14.57OluapPlayerhur
21:15.17HachimanJesus
21:15.24HachimanWormy_: I'd hate to be that guy
21:15.32HachimanProbably gonna lose his job over that
21:16.15Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/qZTyr38
21:16.24Wormy_I hope not
21:17.20ALaggyPandaXho: accurate representation of being online to RP with u ppl
21:17.40Xhowelcome to sporewiki
21:19.08ALaggyPandamany of whom are british and don't have to deal with significant timezone differences :P
21:20.52OluapPlayerWell that didn't go as well as before
21:23.55ALaggyPandaanywho, one of you rabid bonobos sort out running something and chances are I'd be up for it
21:24.32Hachimanook ook
21:27.06OluapPlayerDon't know what to do now
21:27.18HachimanYou play the gift I got you
21:27.35OluapPlayerLater
21:35.49Wormy_It's my birthday in a couple of hours.
21:35.58XhoYUY
21:36.00XhoI mean
21:36.01Xhoyuy
21:36.05OluapPlayerIt's my birthday right now
21:36.07Wormy_yoy
21:36.10Xhomore yuy
21:36.19OluapPlayerOnly Xho remembered
21:36.32Wormy_Happy Birthday Oluap, sorry I thought it was the 27th for some reason.
21:36.39Xhoi am best user on wiki
21:36.44Xhou all go dai in a pit
21:37.10Wormy_I would have wished it two days late
21:37.30OluapPlayerThat'd be a little embarrassing
21:37.37HachimanIt's nothing personnel; I'm awful with remembering birthdays in general
21:38.34The_RandomnessIt's easy to remember mine
21:38.36The_Randomness4/20
21:38.46Xhonot-so-blazed
21:39.24Wormy_I remember the days when we made adventures and models in Spore
21:39.28Wormy_as gifts
21:39.52Wormy_But I can't even do that, as Spore no longer works.
21:40.16MonetI wish I had more tiem sometiems
21:41.35MonetI'll be honest technically I haven't had a break since December.
21:41.57MonetSo apologies for no happy birthday from me.
21:46.26HachimanDear God, I'm reading up on some funny and bizarre Dorf Fort stories and I came across a gem that Oluap told me about a while ago
21:47.05HachimanA dwarf managed to decapitate a bronze colossus in a single attack by throwing a rabbit at it
21:47.27Wormy_get hachi'd
21:47.35OluapPlayerNot a rabbit
21:48.00OluapPlayerA fluffy wambler
21:48.01The_Randomnesskiller rabbit OP
21:48.19OluapPlayer>Fluffy wamblers are small humanoids that can be found the world over in good regions. They are known and beloved for their warm hearts, gentle natures, and stumble bumblings.
21:48.56Xhofukn level 1 lagosi step the fuck up senpai
21:49.04Wormy_they look like rabbit-hamster hybrids
21:49.23OluapPlayerMore like cute little furred people
21:49.49XhoNow I'm just imagining Clamak throwing Hachi at Julianus' head
21:50.03OluapPlayerStill they're 1/3 smaller than a cat, and a dwarf decapitated a giant bronze golem by throwing it at one
21:50.19OluapPlayerBack in the releases where said bronze golems were all but unkillable
21:50.32HachimanThe dwarf apparently had Legendary +2 in its throwing skill
21:54.38HachimanAnd the story about somebody managing to get his dwarves to colonise Hell came up
21:54.48HachimanWe do dwarven DOOM now
21:55.12OluapPlayerI believe it has been done many times since, that story is quite old
21:56.18OluapPlayerThere's no benefit to colonizing hell other than the cool factor since you can't dig through the stuff it's made from
21:56.59OluapPlayerin colonizing*
22:14.06OluapPlayer2quiet
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22:18.12MonetHmm
22:19.33Wormy_tfw when the best result of your fluid simulation of a turbidity current looks like a dick.
22:19.54Hachimanolol
22:19.55OluapPlayerc-men
22:21.47Wormy_Too naughty for the public final year show real#
22:21.55Wormy_*showreel
22:22.02CyrannianHappy burfday Wormy and Oluap
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22:22.31Wormy_Thanks, mines not 38 minutes yet
22:22.52DrodoEmpireBack
22:22.56The_Randomnesswb
22:25.57Wormy_22...  I rocketing out myearly 20s already
22:26.38Wormy_I remember when we all thought Viceman was really old
22:26.56Wormy_back in 2009 and 2010
22:26.56CyrannianHe was probably like 12 or something
22:27.06Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/552500008243367/videos/587109108115790/
22:27.14Wormy_true, but claimed to be 22 or 23 or something
22:28.36Wormy_And I thought I watched weird shit.
22:29.29Wormy_Xho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGbhJjXl9Rk
22:30.59Wormy_Hachiman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neEAtaBYulM
22:47.50TechnobliteratorHappy birthday Wormy and Oluap \o/
22:50.19Wormy_:3
23:00.44Wormy_ITS MY BIRTHDAY
23:01.10HachimanHappy birthday
23:03.37CyrannianHappy birthday!
23:04.11OluapPlayerditto
23:04.37MonetHappy 22nd B-day!
23:05.00Liquid_Inktackles Wormy to the ground in excitement.
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23:23.08Wormy_Thanks
23:23.40Wormy_Even Google knows.  :scary:
23:24.32DrodoEmpire_Wormy_: https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduTUwY5PKSk4Bt6/giphy.gif
23:25.14Wormy_lol
23:42.20Wormy_So whats this 4/20 meme?
23:43.25DrodoEmpire_...You've never heard of 4/20.
23:43.33OluapPlayerhttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/420-blaze-it apply yourself
23:44.04DrodoEmpire_I'm *really* surprised. XD Basically it means April 20th, which is a bit of a "holiday" for stoners and cannabis culture
23:44.10DrodoEmpire_Its actual origin is disputed
23:44.58Wormy_Not down with the kids anymore, at the ancient age of 22
23:45.09DrodoEmpire_Ah. XD
23:45.49OluapPlayerI'm 23, you're the child
23:48.08Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Selanius#Biography - Started on this
23:49.21MonetI'm 24 next week.
23:50.44DrodoEmpire_sits Monet down, and gets him a bowl of pudding
23:50.47DrodoEmpire_Allright, Monet...
23:50.58DrodoEmpire_We've been talking, and we think...
23:51.07DrodoEmpire_...We think its time to put you in a home. <.<
23:52.09Wormy_shakes with fear, knowing that he is seeing his fate.
23:52.39MonetI'm not that helpless
23:52.49The_Randomnesssteals the pudding
23:53.03DrodoEmpire_D:<

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