IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160501

00:01.46MonetSeems quiet tonight
00:02.37OluapPlayerIt is
00:03.46MonetI feel like making a Taremanon quote. bbs
00:07.48DrodoAwayMovingb computer
00:42.23Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Taremanon_Valocanus#Quotes there
01:30.39Wormy_https://twitter.com/rogerkimball/status/713720441194553345
01:32.19MonetNice.
02:01.31Wormy_A satire account of a Barbie doll volunteer "helping the country of Africa" https://www.instagram.com/barbiesavior/?hl=en
02:04.06Wormy_Monet:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36173856
02:04.15Wormy_boom
02:11.11MonetLoving Obama's game-face
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02:23.00The_RandomnessHello
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03:01.29HalopediamanWhat's up ya'll?
03:02.27ZF101CHAOS!!!
03:02.30ZF101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE
03:03.55HalopediamanTrump Trump Trump
03:05.23ZF101Trump for the trump god!
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10:25.22Wormy_hi
10:29.45ImpyDroidHi
10:29.49ImpyDroidHappy Orthodox Easter
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10:51.54JepardiHi
10:52.08Wormy_Easterios:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36178906
11:10.42EasteriosWormy_: Trump did not come through the wall legally
11:11.59Wormy_I dun geddit
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12:03.01HachimanHi
12:03.10GhelaeHello.
13:24.38EasteriosiH
13:25.06EasteriosHappy Easter my culturally Catholic-Protestant fellows
13:26.56GhelaeHappy Russian Easter to you too.
13:28.33EasteriosRussian Easter that happens to be Worker's Day too
13:28.50EasteriosUltimate Russian holiday
13:29.09EasteriosGlory to comrade Jesus who has risen from the dead to bring the proletariat unto salvation
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13:43.15EasteriosHi
13:43.19EasteriosHappy Easter
13:44.08OluapPlayerHi
13:44.12OluapPlayerHappy Workers's Day
13:55.50Wormy_awayHappy Both Days
13:56.37Wormy_awayEasterios http://i.imgur.com/H8fCJww.jpg
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14:06.33EasteriosWormy_away: Comrade Jesus will save us
14:06.38EasteriosHi Tek
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14:27.17AdmiralPandaI just averaged a character sheet every five minutes over twenty minutes
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14:46.05Wormy_Damn computer, I've just lost a little agent based model I was coding :,,(
14:46.13Wormy_Maybe they took over the computer hur
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14:49.06TekDroidHello Charles_Murray
14:51.35Wormy_hi
14:58.03Charles_MurrayHey!
14:59.38EasteriosHi
14:59.41EasteriosHappy Easter
14:59.58TekDroidIt's Easter? ...oh, Russia.
15:00.32Wormy_I fancy opening an Easter egg I've still got
15:04.43Wormy_bbl again
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15:58.35DrodoEmpireHi everyone
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16:06.37Wormy_awayhi
16:07.01EasteriosWormy_away Hachiman: https://youtu.be/YPxXumEZSF4
16:07.07The_RandomnessHello
16:08.31Wormy_Looks like dirty linguistics scared everyone away from Titanpad!
16:09.15The_Randomnesslol
16:10.38EasteriosWe did not progress much I think
16:18.15The_RandomnessYeah, although it did seem like there was a little bit of discussion that started regarding the sort of sounds to use and potential morphology
16:20.26GhelaeI'm thinking of posting the entire IPA on there and telling people to remove sounds they don't want.
16:22.43The_RandomnessThat may be a good idea, actually
16:23.27EasteriosThen set out the laws for forming syllables
16:25.55AdmiralPandaGhelae: to answer your query as to why I wasn't getting involved in the main project, this :P
16:26.02AdmiralPandathough when you get around to warfare let me know
16:26.47GhelaeIf you want to add suggestions for early warfare, you're more than welcome to. Not all of us are linguists.
16:27.07GhelaeI'm sure Drodo would appreciate the change in topic.
16:30.25Wormy_I ought to summarise the geoscience section at some point
16:32.06EasteriosGhelae: Perhaps to make Space Latin more relevant, perhaps it never lost prominence amongst the Collabians?
16:32.15Easterios*only one Perhaps
16:32.46EasteriosI mean Latin only stopped being an international language in like the 19th century
16:32.49GhelaeMaybe. Like if Europe had done more to keep using Latin?
16:37.29GhelaeAlso, the first table of consonants is up on the pad if you want to start removing sounds.
16:46.11GhelaeOkay, they're all up.
16:49.02Wormy_That's a Pokemon http://imgur.com/gallery/veDzg0r
16:49.37The_Randomnesslol
16:49.49The_RandomnessI'll take a look now, although I don't know if I'll be able to do anything
16:50.17Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/zBIon
16:52.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/GThYK
17:04.40DrodoEmpireAdmiralPanda: I've done work on history and warfare so far
17:04.46DrodoEmpireMostly broad concept
17:04.48DrodoEmpire*s
17:05.20AdmiralPandaso I've heard, I'm mostly staying abreast of the whole thing since it doesn't interest me that much, but discussions of warfare are always interesting
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17:28.39Wormy_Easterios:  Looks like North Korea has the same Worker's day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4XSXTbrU-I
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17:30.09MonetHello
17:30.15GhelaeHello.
17:31.07OluapPlayerHi
17:31.18OluapPlayerYou got just in time, I've just encountered my first Forgotten Beast
17:31.27OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/VkJPtfh.png
17:34.43MonetOh lovely
17:35.33OluapPlayerLuckily I dug around the caves so it should not be able to enter the fort
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17:43.07ImpyDroid2Hi
17:43.20ImpyDroid2Happy Orthodox Easter Mon
17:46.50OluapPlayerThis python has a cool title
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17:47.02OluapPlayer"Fenglel the Doomed Deceiver"
17:47.03OluapPlayerspu
17:47.43Xhomeow
17:48.45XhoSo I went to see Captain America: Civil War
17:49.46OluapPlayermerica
17:50.11XhoI'd give it a solid 8.5/10
17:51.58EasteriosGi
17:52.00EasteriosHi
17:52.03EasteriosHappy Easter
17:52.26EasteriosOr should I say
17:52.30OluapPlayerYou're really eager to tell everyone how it's easter over there
17:52.31EasteriosCommuneaster
17:52.58EasteriosWhy not hur
18:08.38MonetHi
18:08.54MonetXho: I found it quite a solid experience as well.
18:12.22Xhosí
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18:13.45XhoBlack Panther was probably one of the best things about it
18:15.30MonetAgreed. I also liked how they did Spider-man
18:15.48MonetWait, has anyone else seen the film?
18:16.27GhelaeI might be seeing it in the next couple of days.
18:17.46Monet#SWCASpoilerWar - anyone who has seen the film or doesn't care about spoilers, talk here.
18:18.28HachimanImp hasn't seen it
18:20.39TekDroidSWCA?
18:20.56TekDroidOh.
18:21.15MonetSporewiki Captain America
18:21.29TekDroidThat movie doesn't even start here until this weekend
18:21.34GhelaeAlso stands for Spoiler War to make it recursive.
18:23.07TekDroidI wonder if releasing the movie here on Mother's Day weekend was a coincidence. :P
18:23.55ImperiosHm not much time left today for study
18:24.02ImperiosGuess I'll work on fiction
18:24.09ImperiosWhich page to do that is the question
18:24.54ImperiosI have Alhassal, PAE's chief diplomat, and the Klaxxa
18:25.12OluapPlayerdo allahu
18:25.12XhoEither that or do Arddraigr's page
18:26.11MonetCould roll a dice or flip two coins
18:26.46MonetHead-head Alhassal, head-tail PAE diplomat, tail-tail klaxxa,
18:27.14GhelaeThat biases it towards the diplomat.
18:27.29Xhotail-head Arddraigr
18:27.43GhelaeThat's better.
18:28.11GhelaeJust make sure you can tell the difference between head-tail and tail-head.
18:28.22MonetI was more thinking the two coins could have been flipped together but that owrks.
18:28.27OluapPlayerIf you don't then get glasses immediately
18:29.34MonetHe already has glasses.
18:33.51OluapPlayerIt was a joke
18:35.36MonetI know
18:36.24MonetJust not as funny if the person already has glasses.
18:44.59AdmiralPanda"It's not a hate crime, there just happened to be three frenchmen that walked in front of my bullets while I was, uh, conducting a live fire training exercise. Yeah, let's go with that." < typical DayZ conversation
18:46.22AdmiralPandafinally got the game and gave it a try, was immediately inducted into a bandit clan on account of my australian-ness
18:47.32The_Randomnesslol
18:51.25AdmiralPandaapparently their thing with prisoners is they force them to wear pink shirts for humiliation purposes, I however was both not humiliated, and in fact quite grateful for the shirt, and that was the start of a beautiful friendshio
18:51.27AdmiralPandaship*
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18:57.26Zf101Hello all.
18:57.33GhelaeHello.
18:59.54Monethello
19:06.14AdmiralPandabreakfast icecream is best icecream
19:12.25XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman Imperios: Well I decided to make a kind of Storm Elemental
19:12.37OluapPlayerrite
19:14.13HachimanOh?
19:15.03Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0a/Kharin-Eza.png/revision/latest?cb=20160501191427 meow
19:15.44OluapPlayerSo it's a lion
19:16.01XhoWell they come in all different shapes and sizes
19:16.07XhoBut that one's a lion
19:16.30XhoA very big lion of course but a lion
19:17.16OluapPlayerNormal lions are already very big u kno
19:17.41XhoWell in the 7 metre range rather than 3 metre
19:19.02MonetVery big cat then
19:19.48HachimanNice
19:22.50Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elemental#Fundamental_Elementals get stormy
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19:24.32OluapPlayer_Fuck off Chrome
19:26.45XhoAll these Facebook posts talking about their 6000 word dissertations
19:26.51Xhobitch sporewiki stories are longer dan dat
19:28.09ImperiosXho: I am reminded of a foo dog
19:28.46ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE Seen this?
19:29.05HachimanNo because Trump is a tired meme
19:29.09MonetXho: Yes but our stories contain more punching and explosion.
19:29.33OluapPlayer_I don't watch Trump videos
19:30.52MonetAlso dissertations involve a lot of research.
19:30.55Xho"Dark Souls 3: Shrek Defends His Swamp"
19:31.00XhoWhat have I started watching
19:31.10HachimanWHAT ARE YE DOIN
19:31.19OluapPlayer_IN MA SWAHMP
19:31.36MonetI recently handed in my proposal, I needed ot accompany it with at least twelve sources.
19:31.42DrodoAwayI've been away for a while, actually. >.<
19:32.12ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3e/Javina_Closeup.png/revision/latest?cb=20160501193151
19:32.17ImperiosDecided to remake Javi
19:32.18ImperiosXho too
19:32.38HachimanLooks good
19:32.53Xhosí
19:33.01XhoPLAYTIME              IS OGRE
19:33.11XhoSeriously that fucking club
19:34.45OluapPlayer_That's the Great Club
19:34.56OluapPlayer_Good weapon if you've the stamina to use it
19:35.08OluapPlayer_And don't mind taking 5 years to swing it
19:35.23Xhopyramid head power sgo
19:35.26Xhopowers go even
19:35.44ImperiosGuyz pls notice me
19:35.59OluapPlayer_wut u wan
19:36.00OluapPlayer_]
19:36.01OluapPlayer_t
19:36.03Zf101Bye bye everyone
19:36.06OluapPlayer_Slight stroke there
19:36.07ImperiosThe pic
19:36.18Xho[20:32] <Xho> sí
19:36.24OluapPlayer_Pic is good
19:36.36OluapPlayer_I'm kind of distracted right now
19:37.32AdmiralPandaspeaking of great clubs, got really bored so I cleared DkS 1 twice yesterday
19:37.56Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-Js-I7fSE why
19:37.58ImperiosHachiman: Do you think the eyebrows fit her?
19:38.05ImperiosI enlarged them a bit
19:40.13ImperiosXho: http://cs7002.vk.me/v7002012/1a589/DioGOvfckFM.jpg Ruins of the ancient ASUS civilisation
19:40.58Xhohoh
19:41.02XhoThat's like 11 months
19:41.16OluapPlayer_Man at Arms Reformed is cool as fuck yo
19:41.20OluapPlayer_Don't complain
19:42.49XhoI know
19:42.54XhoOr do I
19:42.59Xhono not really
19:43.26XhoSeriously though Pyramid Head's knife
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19:43.28Xholotsa etal
19:43.29Xhometal
19:56.57AdmiralPandayou want lots of metal, they did the Buster Sword
19:59.29OluapPlayer_They also made Artorias's sword
20:00.01XhoThat's the one I'm watching now
20:01.46XhoNeeds Soul Edge
20:02.15XhoI don't actually think Soul Edge is possible, any version of it
20:03.08Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/8/81/Soul_Edge_%28SC5%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110513090917
20:03.29XhoExceptionally annoying since that version of Soul Edge doesn't appear in game
20:03.46MonetThat eye won't last very long
20:04.35OluapPlayer_These guys can probably do it, given enough time and resources
20:04.58Xhopossibly
20:05.05XhoIt would be impossible to wield though
20:05.14XhoVery difficult at the least
20:05.28MonetYeah. There's no way to keep a firm, comfortable grip on that handle.
20:05.34XhoIt's about 1.8 metres long to begin with
20:05.51MonetSo it's a two-hander.
20:06.04XhoYeah it's usually described as a Zweihander
20:06.04OluapPlayer_They make the weapons for show, not to be viable
20:06.09MonetThat makes the handguard even worse.
20:06.10OluapPlayer_Look how much they struggle with Artorias's sword
20:07.02Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/4/4a/SoulEdge_SC2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080818205145 That's the most notable version of it
20:07.04MonetIt's definitely possible, if difficult to build.
20:07.06OluapPlayer_Oh yeah they also made the Saw Cleaver from Bloodborne
20:07.13OluapPlayer_That one was also good
20:08.09EasteriosMonet: Warching Thor 2
20:08.31EasteriosWHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF FUCKING SPACE VIKING LONGBOATS WITH LASERS
20:08.49AdmiralPandayou say this like that's not fucking awesome
20:09.13EasteriosIt is awesome but it borders on silly hur
20:09.38MonetAsgard is defended by guys with spears and swords.
20:10.34EasteriosI honestlu want to see Xandarians and Asgardians interact
20:10.51EasteriosOr at least recognise the vast differences between the two alien races
20:11.30AdmiralPandaMonet: and a metal dude that shoots laser beams out of his face-hole
20:11.51AdmiralPandathey're all over the place really
20:11.51MonetAdmiralPanda: Aye
20:11.55Easterios"Hey; how about we take a sword?" "Who the hell do you think we are, Asgardians?"
20:12.41MonetI tihnk as a world, Asgard is in the area of 'so oadvanced they can afford ot use melee weapons'
20:12.52Monetas primary weapons
20:13.21EasteriosYes I imagine they are more powerful in general so they have no need of advanced tools
20:13.36EasteriosActually are they really that advanced or just naturally powerful
20:14.33AdmiralPandaboth
20:14.34MonetWell consider that whatshername translated the technique of the scanner she sat in into technobabble.
20:14.55Monet"In Asgard, magic and science are one and the same"
20:15.14EasteriosHn
20:15.30EasteriosI wonder if Asgardians partake in greater galactic politics
20:15.56EasteriosLike we had this collector guy both on Xandar and in Asgard
20:16.01MonetI don't recall that happening in the comics.
20:16.33XhoGood lord that sword
20:17.04EasteriosI am not sure if making Asgardians sciency was a good decision
20:17.37XhoI do wonder how heavy that greatsword make is
20:18.05MonetIt's not obstrusive science.
20:19.55MonetSif and another guy do visit the COllector in a stinger
20:23.10TekDroidI think they clear interact but presumably the Asgardians are more isolationist, perhaps limiting themselves mainly to those worlds the bifrost goes to.
20:24.46MonetThey definitely seem isolationist
20:28.47EasteriosSo like some sort of isolated space island holding to ancient traditions
20:28.58EasteriosSpace Brits?
20:29.26MonetThat description made me think SPace Japan
20:29.39EasteriosGRORIOUS ASGARDIANS STEER
20:30.03MonetWell they did have a longstanding warrior class.
20:30.12TekDroidIt's also possible it's not entirely ancient by comparison and are actually vastly more advanced than the GotG civilization.
20:30.46TekDroidAn ancient and powerful empire that watches over the inferior younger races.
20:32.14MonetPerhaps
20:32.42MonetWe saw glympses of the other realms in Thor 2
20:33.27Easteriosdirty Xandar peasants -- GLORIOUS ASGARDIAN MASTER RACE
20:34.41MonetActually Xandar might be the biggest change in the MCU.
20:35.59EasteriosHm?
20:36.21MonetWell in the ocmics th eNova Corps are a grand total of 500 people
20:36.44MonetAnd use space magic
20:38.31MonetThe ocmic Nova Prime, for instance, can fly.
20:45.48TekDroidSo the GotG movie changed it more from Science Fantasy to Science Fiction?
20:46.38MonetLooks like it.
20:50.23TekDroidInteresting.
20:51.26EasteriosHuh
20:51.41EasteriosSo in their initial concept they DID fit in with Asgard
20:52.49MonetMarvel and DC seem to like their magic aliens.
20:53.32MonetTHat or, from reading up, the Nova Corps are Marvel's version of the Green Lantern Corps.
20:53.39TekDroidMagic aliens probably helps tie in on power levels with the rest of its super heroes.
20:54.07MonetALso I never quite understood what allowed the Skrulls to shapeshift.
20:56.47TekDroidI wouldn't be surprised if we see some larger interaction at some point.
20:57.05TekDroidOr at least a broader idea pf how they interact in general.
20:57.22EasteriosAlso I wonder why the hell there is an Asian guy in Asgard
20:58.47EasteriosLike I should not complain about the only male Asian character in the entire MCU but still he feels a bit misplaced
20:58.59Monethttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/55328/2909789-warriors_threethree.jpg he's in the comics is why
20:59.34EasteriosOh God that Mongol face
20:59.37TekDroidThen I guess Imp's question becomes why he's in the comics.
21:00.02EasteriosOkay in my headcanon he is the residential Finno-Ugric god
21:00.40MonetWel ldespite being Asgardian, one of the Warriors Three looks like a fencer.
21:01.38EasteriosAnd Heimdall is obviously a bright Loa who immigrated to Asgard looking for a job
21:03.10EasteriosOr a refugee
21:03.18EasteriosScandinavia does accept many refugees after all
21:03.24MonetI think the Asian one is a supposed ot be a Vanir.
21:03.24EasteriosASGARD YES
21:04.31MonetThe outfits in the films are imo miles better than the comics https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Warriors_three.jpg/250px-Warriors_three.jpg
21:05.03EasteriosLooks simpler
21:05.22MonetRobin Porthos, Posh Obelix and Genghis Khan: THe Warriors Three!
21:08.09Easterioshttps://i.imgur.com/Wa802X4.jpg He better look like that
21:12.36OluapPlayer_Easterios Hachiman: I just had a thought. We could use a name for the big Ondarei-Sohet-Ordnung-Kormacvarah alliance
21:12.57EasteriosOld Geezers
21:13.08HachimanOAPs VIPs
21:13.18EasteriosWait I just realised
21:13.39OluapPlayer_This is a serious suggestion mind
21:14.00EasteriosIf we shoehorn Sohet as fire we will have an elemental pentad
21:14.20HachimanArchon Pentumvirate
21:14.36OluapPlayer_I don't see how
21:14.55XhoOrichalcum Elves - rly            ur just gonna leave us out heer
21:15.18OluapPlayer_Their own fault for refusing to cooperate with anyone
21:15.32Monetair, earth, fire, water, aether?
21:15.46XhoWell I imagine their stance on the alliance changed with different rulers
21:15.54XhoEspecially in that certain dark period with insane rulers
21:15.58EasteriosNot sure about their proper name but let them be a league
21:16.10OluapPlayer_There's no air or fire in there
21:16.16EasteriosWe do not have enough leagues in SporeWiki and this is a pretty good name for an alliance
21:16.32OluapPlayer_Explain why it matters hur
21:16.44Monetimp suggested Sohet could be fire
21:16.46HachimanAnd explain the element stuff please
21:16.52EasteriosWait actually no
21:16.55OluapPlayer_Sohet didn't use fire
21:17.04HachimanSohet do not have any association with fire
21:17.04EasteriosWith Oris I think this can work
21:17.12EasteriosIf we use the Chinese elements
21:17.22OluapPlayer_Orichalcum Elves were not members of this league
21:17.23MonetoluapPLayer: Desert, heat.
21:17.30HachimanHeat is not fire
21:17.31EasteriosRight then
21:17.40EasteriosThe League of Four is a possibility
21:17.43HachimanAnd the Sea of Sand was probably less desert when the Sohet were around
21:17.50HachimanOr at least, in their region
21:17.51OluapPlayer_But I'm serious, why league in specific
21:18.02XhoHachiman: "WELCOME TO THE SAND FIELDS, MOTHERFUCKER"
21:18.07OluapPlayer_I don't really know what a league is
21:18.18EasteriosOluapPlayer_: Well it was used IRL for several important intergovernmental organisations
21:18.29EasteriosLike for example alliances of Greek cities
21:18.31XhoBut no the Orichalcum Elves' policies varied too much over 25,000 years
21:18.34EasteriosOr the precursor to the UN
21:18.38EasteriosThe League of Nations
21:18.41OluapPlayer_I see
21:18.53MonetLeague of Corinth, Hanseatic League etc.
21:19.03EasteriosHanseatic League too
21:19.26EasteriosNow they could be named for the city they were founded in
21:19.36HachimanToo specific in my opinion
21:19.41HachimanAnd a bit too biased
21:19.52MonetUnlike a duo/tri/ent-umvirate, a league is less dominating.
21:20.10EasteriosHachiman: Usually in that case it is a small town where alliances are signed
21:20.20Easterios*in a small town
21:20.35Monet"pentumbirate" implies the ancients ruled an empire together.
21:20.48HachimanYes, let us name this alliance of four grand ancient and highly-sophisticated superpowers after a single city or town
21:20.49XhoOut of the 34 rulers of the Orichalcum Elf Imperium only around five of them would have been open to a UN-like cooperation
21:20.57EasteriosHachiman: It happened IRL
21:21.06HachimanFine, I won't argye
21:21.07Hachimanargue*
21:21.24OluapPlayer_Instead of arguing you can suggest something else
21:21.26EasteriosOR
21:21.37EasteriosHow about they signed it in some forest or something
21:21.45Hachiman>some forest
21:21.47EasteriosSo like named after a geographical location
21:21.47XhoProbably talking about 7,500 years apart or so as well
21:21.53EasteriosPerhaps a sacred place?
21:21.57EasteriosOf some sort?
21:22.13MonetWell ot could be named after the city the alliance was formed.
21:22.19OluapPlayer_It could work, but where?
21:22.25EasteriosHm
21:22.35XhoNot to mention a 2,500 year long tyranny would have probably permanently tarnished the Orichalcum Elves' reputation
21:22.47EasteriosXho: Are there any super sacred Isis places on Koldenwelt
21:22.50Easterios*Isiris
21:22.53OluapPlayer_I personally would be more inclined to a name symbolizing over how they're all beastfolk
21:22.59OluapPlayer_But I got nothing to suggest
21:23.01EasteriosFurry League
21:23.03XhoNothing collectively really
21:23.06HachimanThat place where the Eye is
21:23.10HachimanBut other than that
21:23.20EasteriosHell maybe that could work
21:23.25EasteriosLeague of the Eye
21:23.27OluapPlayer_The Archipelago didn't exist back then
21:23.27XhoWell
21:23.31OluapPlayer_Neither did the Eye
21:23.32HachimanYeah that's the thing
21:23.32XhoYeah that
21:23.39Easteriosdun
21:23.42Easterios*dum
21:23.42HachimanA beastfolk-inclined name could work
21:23.54EasteriosHm
21:24.22EasteriosI'd say Wild Pact but like none of them were really wild
21:24.25Xho"We All Think the Orichalcum Elves Are Stupid League"
21:24.38OluapPlayer_Void Denizens - consider us members
21:24.45Xhofuk
21:25.01EasteriosPact of Talons?
21:25.08Hachiman>talons
21:25.12EasteriosThe Talonpact?
21:25.13HachimanOnly one of them were birds
21:25.18XhoKinmorunddraver - birds rule fuk off
21:25.24EasteriosOrdnung have something resembling talons
21:25.28OluapPlayer_Stop greentexting and do actual discussion
21:25.48HachimanWow alright, calm down
21:25.55EasteriosHachiman is bitter at me I believe (though this is my fault admittedly)
21:26.02HachimanI'm not bitter
21:26.02EasteriosNow
21:26.05OluapPlayer_Perhaps Pact of Claws instead of Talons
21:26.13EasteriosPact of Claws could work
21:26.25OluapPlayer_Even though the Ondarei Mharinis had no claws of any description
21:26.41XhoPact of Claws and Fins Because We're All Diverse Here
21:26.42EasteriosHm hm
21:26.54EasteriosXho: Pact of Diversity
21:27.07Xhotumblr pact                              Nalashtannylor - KOLDENWELT WAS A MISTAKE
21:27.08EasteriosDedicated to checking the Void's privileges
21:27.12OluapPlayer_Trigger Drakes
21:27.31Xho"remove squawk"
21:27.40OluapPlayer_Caligaduro - i did
21:27.47Easterioshm
21:27.48XhoNal - :c
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21:27.52JepardiHi
21:27.57Xhomeow
21:28.12OluapPlayer_Hello
21:28.27HachimanThe Earthsea Order / Pact / League?
21:28.28XhoMakes me wonder about the status of the more animal-like Simulacra among Theriocephali races
21:28.37XhoThere's got to be some divinity-by-association stuff going on there
21:28.40EasteriosEarthsea League
21:28.44EasteriosI actually like it
21:28.52OluapPlayer_That fits all the races yeah
21:28.52EasteriosI believe Jepardi implied most Theriocephali respect Harstag
21:29.05XhoMakes sense
21:29.13OluapPlayer_Too broad for one person to decide
21:29.20HachimanThat
21:29.53EasteriosThe first name was actually Earthsandtreesea League
21:30.11XhoWell they've got Stag, Bird, Cat and FOOW to choose from so
21:30.28EasteriosFoow?
21:30.28OluapPlayer_I've only for two beast races who revere any Simulacrum
21:30.31XhoCrux
21:30.35XhoWoof backwards
21:30.40OluapPlayer_One refers Zarmagahla, the other Zran Kar
21:31.13XhoAlthough Crux is actually more like some abominable death lizard thing
21:31.16EasteriosWell Kalisearan mothered several monster races on Koldenwelt so there is a connection
21:31.17HachimanI imagine Crux has some association with hounds and wolves despite not looking like one
21:31.25OluapPlayer_She mothered 'some' races
21:31.27EasteriosMaybe he has another form
21:31.43EasteriosA connection to these races then
21:31.54EasteriosPresumably many of them were feline considering she is a cat
21:32.02OluapPlayer_The Kormacvarah revered Isiris, the Ondarei revered Tritonomarth
21:32.13XhoHachiman: So I decided to type in images of a Roc, I got anti-aging skin cream
21:32.13HachimanThe Colossi are probably revered more by beastfolk than the Simulacra
21:32.17Hachimanhur
21:32.17EasteriosOrdnung revered Alar'xashan but they are not birds
21:32.41EasteriosThey are more like
21:32.45XhoTrying to think what Theriocephali races I actually have
21:32.47Easterios...What the fuck are they even
21:32.57XhoMahanayans and Skeltadraskeli actually
21:32.59MonetMole people?
21:33.00OluapPlayer_I thought you described them as being dog people
21:33.12OluapPlayer_Why is why Klaxxa see Mortium as a dog
21:33.20HachimanThe Sohet probably revered only Isiris given that part of their hubris was that they thought they could do what gods could do
21:33.30XhoSkeltadraskeli have inclinations of worshipping Asv-Aldz so
21:33.32OluapPlayer_Which is why*
21:33.42Xho[WHY IS WHY]
21:34.05XhoFantasy Mahanayans I have never expanded upon so
21:34.08OluapPlayer_They're supposed to be kobolds. Kobolds are usually either dogs or lizardmen
21:34.24EasteriosHachiman: Wouldn't they become irreligious at that point
21:34.30HachimanProbably
21:34.42XhoOrichalcum Elves - man even we didn't go that far
21:34.55XhoOrichalcum Elves - well we did twice but the first time around we killed those people
21:35.12HachimanThey thought that they could stand equal to the gods and ended up metaphorically stepping too close to the Sun
21:35.36Xho"can u not" - Sun
21:36.28XhoAll my races follow a religion except for the Athsulisstai
21:36.32OluapPlayer_Norrigan - how awful
21:36.54XhoWell it is a belief but not in any deity
21:37.04OluapPlayer_It's a bit hard to have atheist races in a world where gods literally live in the surface
21:37.20XhoAthsulisstai - well fuk dem
21:37.30OluapPlayer_Unless you're like "i dont believe he's a god"
21:37.40OluapPlayer_Until he comes over and throws half the continent sideways
21:37.43HachimanSohet were not atheist per se considering they still saw the gods as gods
21:37.47XhoThey subscribe to the whole ancestral spirit theme rather than gods
21:38.07HachimanI dunno, complex situation and not prepared to go into it hur
21:38.07EasteriosXho: Athsulisstai, the Fedorakin
21:38.36EasteriosDystheism? Mesothelium?
21:38.40Easterios*Misotheism?
21:39.11XhoMisotheism works
21:39.30XhoThere's the recurring motto of their kind which says "Koldenwelt belongs to no one"
21:40.01XhoAlthough they tend to interchange identities with Koldenwelt and Isiris at times though Isiris is more of a force than a living being to them
21:40.30XhoThey have no real opinion of the Colossi and they don't like the Simulacra at all
21:40.35OluapPlayer_Tritonomarth believed Koldenwelt and Isiris were the same thing, which the Ondarei Mharinis probably followed
21:42.09XhoIn the religions across my fiction Isiris isn't treated wholly as a deity except for the Nalashtannylor worshippers who are more open to the idea of it
21:42.21XhoAlthough Nalashtannylor is still their supreme deity
21:43.28XhoThe Néva's beliefs are quite variable come to think of it
21:44.51XhoI did have that idea of that snow-leopard-esque species who worshipped Nalashtanylor under that Nine-Faced God analogy
21:45.05XhoSince there's actually no race on Koldenwelt currently that calls him the Nine-Faced God
21:45.21OluapPlayer_Don't the Néva and Khaadun's people do it?
21:45.41XhoThey're both monotheistic
21:46.12XhoWell that's a lie the Néva vary it
21:46.25XhoAlthough there's no Nine-Faced God theme to them
21:46.51XhoIt's usually only the Night-Father and Kartansimal sometimes
21:46.59XhoOh and Nalúnt
21:47.14EasteriosNine Faced God
21:47.19EasteriosI sense Game of Thrones
21:47.28XhoUnfortunate coincidence
21:48.00XhoIt was originally meant to represent all the alignments at once in a more complicated fashion but it will blur those boundaries more
21:48.13XhoAs a Simulacrum he's more complicated than that
21:48.41EasteriosSo D&D style
21:49.03XhoYeah, they're all analogies and they have depicitions of those kinds but none of them are actually incarnate
21:49.34XhoAlthough some more hardline believers say that certain entities are the incarnate forms of Nalashtannylor's nine faces
21:49.41XhoStorm Elementals for example
21:50.17XhoSome might believe that that lion-shaped one is one of Nalashtannylor's avatars
21:51.22XhoOr Kartansimal, Nalúnt, Thunardormir etc
21:51.27OluapPlayer_We don't even know what it is
21:51.30OluapPlayer_Other than a big lion
21:51.36Xhotis a storm elemental u
21:51.47OluapPlayer_write bout it dangit
21:51.50Xhoi did
21:51.52Xhodid u not c
21:52.13OluapPlayer_So you did
21:52.18OluapPlayer_I had not noticed
21:53.01OluapPlayer_y Thunardormir tho
21:53.04OluapPlayer_he not stormo
21:53.07XhoLightning
21:53.11HachimanColossus of Lightning
21:53.20OluapPlayer_colossus of BOOZE
21:53.30OluapPlayer_and pickaxes and hatred for elves
21:53.31HachimanWhat about the Old Colossus of Lightning?
21:53.36XhoThat too
21:53.52Hachimaninb4 Thunardormir is Armok
21:54.02OluapPlayer_Thunardormir is too nice to be Armok
21:54.32OluapPlayer_Mind you when I suggested the term "child magic" it was more of a relative thing. I imagine all types of magic have always existed together
21:54.44HachimanChild magic
21:54.51HachimanIs that like pedomancy or
21:54.55OluapPlayer_Yes
21:54.57OluapPlayer_Yes why not
21:54.58XhoWell we did say there's a lot of interchangeability
21:55.15XhoOr that Sun/Storm can be deconstructed into their 'child forms'
21:55.50XhoAs for Nalashtannylor he's treated as encompassing storm, thunder, wind, water, ice, earth and darkness at times
21:55.57XhoNot all at once but
21:56.09XhoDifferent cultures have different views
21:56.40XhoLightning in place of thunder because I took it from an older source
21:56.56OluapPlayer_get updated
21:57.00XhoNEVER
21:57.05HachimanI wonder what else kind of races would worship Thunardormir
21:57.12EasteriosHm
21:57.19OluapPlayer_As of current
21:57.21OluapPlayer_none
21:57.21HachimanSurely not just dwarves revere him, even if he does appear as a dwarf
21:57.25EasteriosI have these Armenian folks but they worship Pheonas as their main deity
21:57.40EasteriosKlaxxa I imagine would pay some respect to him
21:57.44OluapPlayer_Currently the only races who refere Thunardormir are the Khargrim and the Kyrsacov
21:57.53OluapPlayer_There's no one else
21:58.08EasteriosThough not as a god
21:58.21HachimanIt would be weird for say a beastfolk race to worship Thunardormir and then discover there is an entire race of people that look like him
21:58.43OluapPlayer_tips warhammer
21:58.53OluapPlayer_I just felt like saying that
21:58.57Hachimanhur
21:59.15XhoI imagine the Néva would if they lived that far south
21:59.29OluapPlayer_Néva - dats not a dorf
21:59.41HachimanIt would be like, the dwarves are considered Thunardormir's chosen people or something
21:59.45HachimanJew Dwarves
21:59.47XhoNo Néva is going to actively tread the barrier of inhospitable cold to interact with the weak southerners tho
21:59.53XhoThat's their view anyway
22:00.06OluapPlayer_Colossi in general don't see anywhere as much worship as the Simulacra do right now
22:00.19EasteriosHachiman: Maybe Thun is depicted as an animalistic being in their tales
22:00.29HachimanHis beard is actually seen as fur
22:00.39XhoI imagine that the Colossi are probably more prevalent across Theriocephali races than Deiwos races
22:00.44Xhoworship that is
22:01.01OluapPlayer_They have one worshipping race on average
22:01.27MonetThe colossus issue reminds me of the FIctionverse issue of the disproportionate quantities of ascended and descended.
22:01.39OluapPlayer_Thunar has the Khargrim, Earth Dragon face has the Klaxxa, Tangilaruka had the Bizargar, Almonohuim has the Merovar
22:01.43HachimanExcept we always have a set number of Colossi to exist
22:01.56HachimanThunar has a majority of Dweorg in general
22:02.00MonetWHat I mean Hach is the bad types get al lthe attention.
22:02.10XhoMonet: It does make sense though
22:02.22OluapPlayer_Lorchakim has the Hikamera Elves
22:02.32HachimanAnd the Light Drakes
22:02.42XhoSince the Simulacra represent more chaotic spheres I imagine it was originally out of reverence/fear of the Simulacra's power that had drawn mortals to worship them in the first place
22:02.47OluapPlayer_No one likes Xitannoth so I assume no one worships him
22:02.50XhoThe Simulacra are essentially a higher order of beings than the Colossi
22:02.58OluapPlayer_I'd argue that
22:03.01HachimanXitannoth could be like the Colossus equivalent of Loki
22:03.22EasteriosIsn't he already
22:03.23OluapPlayer_I believe they're on the same level of godhood
22:03.25MonetFrom the perspective of KOldenweltians, Xho might have ap oint.
22:03.27HachimanMalign God of It's Just A Prank Bro
22:03.58EasteriosNow I imagine Xitannoth and Kalisearan doing silly things together
22:04.11OluapPlayer_Xitannoth - not THAT kind of silly thing
22:04.13EasteriosAs well as *doing* *silly things* *together*
22:04.14HachimanSylvester and Tweety-Pie
22:04.15MonetThey might be on the same level, but the Simulacra are more likely to influence civilised ocmmunities.
22:04.17Easteriosdammit ninjad
22:04.19OluapPlayer_i ninja u
22:04.23OluapPlayer_haw
22:04.38XhoThe Simulacra's dominion over their own realm does tip the balance in their favour
22:04.50MonetThat too.
22:04.58HachimanRegarding what I have planned for Wind Colossi, rocs and griffins stem from one of them and I had considered having a race of weaboo tengu worship one of or both of them
22:05.01OluapPlayer_The Simulacra's advantage is that they can quickly move around the place while the Colossi can't, as far s we know
22:05.30XhoNot counting Isiris and Caligaduro because they actually are higher orders of beings
22:05.42OluapPlayer_Kalisearan can go rape both people of the far north and the far south while a Colossus would have to walk all the way there first
22:05.57HachimanI certainly hope no Colossus has rape on their mind
22:05.57XhoAlthough the general consensus seems to be that the Colossi all seem to stem from Isiris' conscience
22:06.01MonetThe Colossi and Simulacra may be as powerful as each other in practice ,but perceptively, the Simulacra are something higher, being ableo t influence mortal minds and hold their own realms.
22:06.27OluapPlayer_I guess it's a matter of perspective
22:06.31OluapPlayer_They're equal in power in my eyes
22:07.01HachimanNeeds Fantasyverse Nurglites worshipping Teratoma
22:07.07HachimanPapa Teratoma
22:07.12XhoI did have a dreadful theory that all of the Simulacra stemmed from Caligaduro's conscience and they're all dickhead children of the void
22:07.16OluapPlayer_Even less people liked Teratoma compared to Xitannoth
22:07.22XhoNot improbable but incredibly absolute
22:07.43OluapPlayer_His whole backstory is about how everyone hated him
22:07.47OluapPlayer_That's what I write when I'm sad
22:07.59MonetEqual in power but this is the fantasy world, where power isn't just a rating on a scale.
22:08.12EasteriosHachiman: Actually a cult of Tumblrinas
22:08.21Easterios"DOWN WITH NON-TOXIC PRIVILEGE"
22:08.38OluapPlayer_Teratoma - this is why i killed myself
22:08.39HachimanNurgle is a pestulent literal globule of shit who represents toxic filth, decay, and death yet people still like him because he is not really actively malevolent
22:08.56HachimanPlus, those who can survive his diseases are made stronger
22:09.07XhoThere is a chance of having a Void analogue to the Colossi since Caligaduro is the underhanded force to Isiris, but considering they'd only exist in the Chaosphere there's no point writing about it
22:09.11OluapPlayer_No one could survive Teratoma's diseases
22:09.35OluapPlayer_He ruined the world near him by his mere presence
22:09.54EasteriosXho: So like guys like Sepulchrus
22:10.06OluapPlayer_Sepulchrus is not a god
22:10.10OluapPlayer_I've said this more than once
22:10.28XhoWell what the Colossi are to Isiris would be the same kind to Caligaduro
22:10.29HachimanSepulchrus is more like a demigod imo
22:11.02XhoThough the best I could describe them would be immaterial consciences floating in the void rather than something walking
22:11.10OluapPlayer_Not your opinion, it's a fact
22:11.16OluapPlayer_It's written in his page ffs
22:11.45XhoAs if Rama-Squid and Kaicaiusarin were active creations of Caligaduro those 'Void Colossi' would be like recessive thought made manifest but not entirely corporeal
22:12.06OluapPlayer_Rama-Squid - we're daddy's favorites
22:12.53XhoI wouldn't exactly know what they'd be called because Void Colossi implies they're like the Colossi on Koldenwelt
22:13.38HachimanHow about Simulacra
22:13.39HachimanWait
22:14.15XhoWell like I said that idea of the Simulacra stemming from the void isn't impossible but it's very far fetched considering the lack of control Caligaduro has over them
22:14.23XhoAs a theory
22:14.35OluapPlayer_Of course it's not impossible
22:14.39OluapPlayer_Three of them are from the Void hur
22:14.53XhoI mean the other eleven
22:14.57XhoOr eight
22:15.02OluapPlayer_lrn2count
22:15.19XhoAlthough they're all Source-linked so that immediately debunks the theory
22:15.43EasteriosThese SimCols I think would just be high-ranked demons of their respective worlds
22:15.57HachimanLike Leucocytus
22:16.01EasteriosYeah
22:16.07EasteriosOr as I said, Sep
22:16.14EasteriosOr potentially Pheonas
22:16.45OluapPlayer_Pheonas is a level above Sepulchrus or Leucocytus
22:16.50OluapPlayer_since he's actually divine
22:17.08EasteriosTrue that
22:18.28OluapPlayer_Rama-Squid does have an equivalent of high-ranked demon in Skuumuraveth but I never had the chance to use him in a story
22:18.32OluapPlayer_And probably won't for a while
22:18.45XhoPelagrios - pls noh
22:18.52HachimanI remember I thought about the idea of not all of the New Colossi actually being born into the world just yet
22:19.12OluapPlayer_That's a bad excuse to not make them
22:19.17HachimanAs in, some are still forming or waiting to come to life
22:19.25XhoWAKE ME UP INSIDE
22:19.32OluapPlayer_BEFORE YOU GO
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22:21.05XhoThere must be a way to re-format the Simulacra and Colossi pages
22:21.11XhoAs to condense them
22:22.25OluapPlayer_I can't think of any that would not make the pages butt-ugly
22:22.30OluapPlayer_I'm fine with how they are now
22:22.45XhoWell the Colossi page has very disproportionate image sizes
22:23.06OluapPlayer_They're proportional to the text next to them
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22:26.30TechnobliteratorPage design?
22:26.31HachimanFucking cunternet
22:26.32TechnobliteratorI can help
22:26.33Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Talven_Empire Guys we have a decently written page
22:26.33Technobliterator\o/
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22:59.26Wormy_hi
23:01.49Wormy_Hachiman I just watched a hilarioys German comedy called He's Back, where Hilter wakes up today and people mistake him for a comedian and put him on national television.  However, the film cleverly played with modern politics and had Borat like scenes of people reacting to him (even positively) not knowing it was a film while in public.
23:02.20Wormy_Then he gradually sways the German people and joins the Green party
23:02.47Wormy_it was pretty bizzare
23:03.34Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_Who%27s_Back_(film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtW1Lq5c04E
23:03.49TekDroidO.o
23:04.54HachimanWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6nEaT6QaWQ
23:04.57HachimanModern alchemy
23:05.18Wormy_It put Hilter in the finniest of modern circumstances
23:07.06The_RandomnessThat looks entertaining
23:08.18Wormy_watches this homonoculus thing
23:10.38Wormy_Hachiman:  Its not like band aids existed in ancient times
23:10.53Hachimanhur

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