IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160219

00:00.13DrodoEmpireHey
00:00.15HalopediamanWhat have I done. My attempt to create a nation resulted in an absolutely egregious democratic system.
00:01.32DrodoEmpireHm?
00:01.44DrodoEmpireNo need to write too much at first, like I said
00:01.52DrodoEmpireHave you got the page on the wiki, yet?
00:02.49HalopediamanNah, I let a freeflow of things spill out onto a gdoc last night that I just 'finished'
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01:01.38HachimanHello
01:02.29Monethi
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01:14.09DrodoEmpireHey Hachi
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01:41.07DrodoEmpireHi
01:41.36Robotickinghello
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02:00.30Wormy_hi
02:02.22Robotickinghello wormy
02:13.09Wormy_Monet:  Jeremy Kyle got pepper sprayed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn5VTbyiUBc
02:15.33Monet<PROTECTED>
02:19.25Wormy_Jeremy Kyle gets 360 chavscoped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fyp2baH6iA
02:20.16DrodoEmpireohgod
02:21.07DrodoEmpireWhat is Jeremy Kyle? Is that like the British Jerry Springer show? :p
02:21.29MonetPretty-much yes
02:22.12Wormy_Human bare-baiting show, with a DNA test on top
02:22.15Wormy_*bear
02:22.40Wormy_DrodoEmpire:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfA85yjukcQ
02:22.47DrodoEmpireAh
02:22.59DrodoEmpire"GOBBIEST CHAV EVER"
02:23.03DrodoEmpireYep that's the UK alright
02:23.13DrodoEmpire*that's from that is
02:23.43Wormy_You get the ugliest people appear on it
02:25.31DrodoEmpireSeems so
02:25.34DrodoEmpireGeez...
02:25.35Wormy_DrodoEmpire, Monet:  She is... Orange https://youtu.be/3hPWm3nPZFw?t=17s
02:25.54DrodoEmpireOh christ in a wheelbarrow
02:26.01DrodoEmpireWhat are those eyelashes
02:26.35MonetI....think they're eyelashes
02:27.04Wormy_At 1:13 she says "Have you seen the state of her", another woman
02:27.39DrodoEmpirehur
02:33.16Wormy_"Grow a pair" https://youtu.be/3hPWm3nPZFw?t=6m29s
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02:40.35DrodoEmpireHi
02:40.50Just_a_Rockhi
02:44.30Wormy_<PROTECTED>
02:45.29TekDroid...
02:47.49Wormy_<PROTECTED>
02:48.03Just_a_RockGet the trowel, I wanna scrape the messages off.
02:49.02DrodoEmpireOh, yeah, Wormy
02:49.34DrodoEmpireThat wiki contributor has been messaging Thunderlord for a few days now
02:49.46DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/142.177.87.83
02:49.50DrodoEmpireSorta weird
02:51.01Wormy_They seem to know each other
02:51.36Wormy_Whether he means "bro" as relative or as a friend, can't tell
02:51.43DrodoEmpireDOesn't seem
02:51.51DrodoEmpireThunderlord looks like he's confused
02:51.57Wormy_yeah
02:52.17DrodoEmpireWiki contributor's either got the wrong guy or is just sorta creepy. :[
02:52.19DrodoEmpire*:p
03:29.21DrodoEmpireHi
03:30.27HalopediamanHowdy
03:30.34HalopediamanHow goes?
03:31.16DrodoEmpireNOt much
03:31.23DrodoEmpireI got done RP'ing with Monet earlier
03:32.03HalopediamanHow'd that treat you?
03:32.27DrodoEmpireIt was quite good
03:32.51HalopediamanNice
03:33.01DrodoEmpireDo you intend to post your fiction soon?
03:34.36HalopediamanI'm at a crossroads of "I like what I have" and "dear zeus this is terrible delete and start again"
03:34.44DrodoEmpireI'd just post it
03:34.59DrodoEmpireIf it does happen to be terrible, people'll let you know and how you can improve it
03:35.00DrodoEmpire:p
03:35.07DrodoEmpireI get the feeling though]
03:38.45HalopediamanWell I'm starting to question its stance with precidence, I did make it while half asleep afterall. Are nations usually homogeneous? Also I wasn't sure if I should know what section of space everything was located in before or if I figured that out after from talking to people in the community.
03:40.11DrodoEmpireWell...
03:40.47DrodoEmpire"Nation", technically, means a cultural or ethnic group. A group of people of a shared religious and ethnic heritage and language
03:40.57DrodoEmpireState or country is the word you're looking for
03:41.13DrodoEmpire(I.e the French are the nation, and France is their country)
03:41.21DrodoEmpireAnyway that's me being a prick
03:41.27DrodoEmpireYes they can be homogeneous
03:41.31DrodoEmpireThat's rather common
03:42.33HalopediamanI'm emulating terminology I'm seeing used, not using what is technically correct.
03:43.34DrodoEmpireBest use what's technically correct but I digress
03:44.01DrodoEmpireYes, your nation can be homogeneous, and unless its a fairly large empire or one that was built primarily through conquest then its likely it would be
03:46.16DrodoEmpire*country that is
03:51.12HalopediamanWhat I cooked up wasn't homogeneous, I wasn't sure if homogeneous states were what everyone did and anything involving cooperation was an alliance instead of a single governed entity. Essentially what I created was four different alien nations (from the same part of their galactic neighborhood) come together to form a larger empire.
03:51.57DrodoEmpireRight
03:51.58DrodoEmpireThat's fine
03:52.09HalopediamanFantastic.
03:52.10DrodoEmpireAssume what you're doing is within the rules
03:52.18DrodoEmpireWe'll let you know if something isn't
03:52.25HalopediamanOh I'm sure. :P
03:56.17HalopediamanI am the smarterist
03:56.23HalopediamanShould probably log in
04:09.25HalopediamanSo when coming up with technology and numbers I'm realizing that I small scaled pretty hard.
04:27.57DrodoEmpireright
04:28.02DrodoEmpiresorry gotta go
04:28.12DrodoEmpireWe'll talk later
05:27.53HalopediamanSo, uh, anyone versed in the fiction around here, what is the generally held "current" year post things operate in?
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06:22.57Halopediamanwaves to Vincent20100
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09:06.59ImpyDroidHi
09:18.13HalopediamanHowdy
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09:51.01ImpyDroidHi
09:52.05AdmiralPandahi
10:13.40Halopediaman...it was to be so simple...a federal council to rule an empire...but then I decided to add a parliament, and legislature consisting of state executives who in some cases vote based on lower state legislature decisions...
10:14.30HalopediamanNever let me near a constitution drafting to establish a governing body, someone must stop my sinful hands.
10:17.28AdmiralPandathis why meritocracy
10:18.34HalopediamanGood news, one of the four lower state legislatures IS a meritocracy! Sort of. Seriously, this is a crime against government drafting.
10:19.54Liquid_InkNow add a legislature with representatives from all the worker's unions.
10:20.49HalopediamanThat's something I hadn't thought of.
10:22.08Liquid_InkErgatocracy!
10:22.48dromAnyone got the link to Monet's art blog?
10:27.33Ghelaedrom: Do you mean his DeviantArt, or something else?
10:27.59GhelaeI do remember him having something else...
10:29.25dromYeah, his art blog
10:29.30dromAnd I don't mean his dA
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10:37.59JepardiHi
10:38.44GhelaeHello.
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10:39.12dromAh thank you
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11:10.02DanzaDelMondoFuk
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11:14.15ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda Liquid_Ink: I wonder
11:14.28Liquid_InkDo you indeed?
11:14.42ImpyDroid2Since humans are, by Terran standards, better runners
11:14.59Ghelae[11:10] <DanzaDelMondo> Ghel left     -> this is news to me
11:15.31Wormy_Hello
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11:16.09Liquid_Ink[21:14] <ImpyDroid2> Since humans are, by Terran standards, better runners
11:16.11Liquid_InkGo on.
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11:17.17AndroImpFUCK
11:17.47AndroImpAnyway, do you think humans would have extraordinary endurance and speed by SporeWiki species standards?
11:18.10AndroImpOr, considering that many other species develop bipedal gaits, would their running ability be merely average
11:18.33AndroImpLike for example imagine a running Dracogonarious
11:18.38AdmiralPandahuman's running ability is poor by terran standards, it's endurance that they excel in
11:18.51AdmiralPandabut by wiki standards even that is quite poor
11:18.55AndroImpAdmiralPanda: Yeah that's what I meant
11:19.20GhelaeI'd guess that baseline human endurance would be good compared to that of most baseline aliens, but not extraordinary because, as you say, there are so many bipeds.
11:19.31AndroImpBut consider that human abilities will likely be enhanced through biotechnology
11:19.35GhelaeBut then there's genetic engineering, cybernetic implants, etc. to take into account.
11:19.37AndroImpRite
11:20.05AndroImpGhelae: Then again consider that not all SW bipeds are human-style bipeds
11:20.19AndroImpLibertus, for example, would run like, well, raptors
11:20.55GhelaeYes. And obviously some species will be worse at endurance than humans despite being bipeds, due to their exact body plan.
11:20.58Wormy_I think we need to give baseline Terrans something
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11:21.10GhelaeYes. And obviously some species will be worse at endurance than humans despite being bipeds, due to their exact body plan.
11:21.31Wormy_<PROTECTED>
11:21.32ImpyDroidSo humans would be like "good endurance runners but not OP"
11:21.50AdmiralPandaendurance *walkers*
11:22.13ImpyDroidOh wait yes that's right
11:22.30ImpyDroidEndurance running was actually basically out walking an animal right?
11:22.34Wormy_Yes, horses and wolves have better running endurance if you think about it.  They can cover hundreds of km a day, I learned.
11:22.47ImpyDroidWell horses are horses
11:22.59ImpyDroidThere is a reason these two species were among the first to be domesticated
11:23.03ImpyDroidThey can catch up
11:26.47ImpyDroidOh and here is one thing I wanted to ask Ghel and Wormy
11:27.06ImpyDroidIs the hypothesis that humans evolved from semi-aquatic apes legit?
11:27.24Wormy_Actually humans have more than just walking endurance.  It is quite remarkable that people with the right training or lifestyle can hold their breath underwater for 20 minutes, athletically climb, climb vertical walls.
11:27.26GhelaeI believe it's still widely regarded as being pretty dodgy.
11:27.58Wormy_I prefer the Stoned Ape hypothesis.
11:28.16GhelaeI don't think they're mutually exclusive.
11:28.18Wormy_Which is even more dodgy
11:28.39ImpyDroidApe found crack -> went for a swim -> EVOLUTION
11:28.51Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna#.22Stoned_ape.22_theory_of_human_evolution
11:28.56Wormy_More like magic mushrooms
11:29.16ImpyDroidHumans evolved by mushroom symbiosis
11:29.19ImpyDroidHUMANS ARE ORKS
11:29.24ImpyDroidWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
11:31.38Wormy_They probably all play some part.
11:32.43ImpyDroidSo we are stoned dolphin monkeys?
11:32.49Wormy_Meme-gene evolution, psychedelic foodsources, swimming, cooked meat, increased social bonds, variable climate, etc.
11:33.31GhelaeI'd be very surprised if early hominins never went for a dip in a lake or river. But "dolphin" is an exaggeration.
11:33.34ImpyDroidGhelae: What is dodgy? That swimming was the main reason for human evolution or that humans lived at a certain point close to water?
11:33.54ImpyDroidLike I am pretty sure humans swim better than apes
11:34.04ImpyDroidI dunno, must throw a chimp to a lake to see
11:34.10GhelaeThat a semi-aquatic or aquatic lifestyle was the main reason for human evolution.
11:34.26ImpyDroidRight
11:35.22ImpyDroidWhat about bipedalism? Could it provide an advantage in living near a lake or was it for running only?
11:36.00GhelaeBeing able to stand in water and not drown is certainly an advantage to living near a lake.
11:36.35GhelaeBut it could also have only evolved for running.
11:39.05GhelaeWhen it comes to the explanations that the aquatic ape hypothesis provides, there's a quote on the Wikipedia page that explains why they don't really support its validity:
11:39.07Ghelae"Every one of these reasons probably would be sufficient to explain the evolution of the traits in the absence of the aquatic environment. This is more than unparsimonious. It leaves the Aquatic Ape Theory explaining nothing whatsoever about the evolution of the hominids. This is why professional anthropologists reject the theory, even if they haven't fully thought through the logic."
11:39.24GhelaeMissed the first sentence.
11:39.28Ghelae"All of the features encompassed by the theory still requires a reason for it to be maintained after hominids left the aquatic environment."
11:41.28Wormy_Here's an ambitious theory http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/Articles/cas01.html
11:41.37GhelaeSo it's not that what the theory proposes couldn't have happened, it's just that you need palaeontological evidence for it to be scientifically useful.
11:46.04ImpyDroidright
11:46.21ImpyDroidThanks, that answers my question!
11:53.39Wormy_restarting
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11:56.14HachimanHi
11:56.28GhelaeHello.
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11:59.28Wormy_Had to restart while restarting.
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12:00.40Wormy_ImpyDroid, Ghelae:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxKrskPyBuI
12:03.49GhelaeThat's basically it, yeah.
12:05.43Wormy_Recently scientists tried to give an AI program a psychedelic trip.  Maybe we are in for the same fate as the video's ending?
12:13.17Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/7o0VS4k
12:16.09Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Giql2zJ
12:20.42dromdafuq Wormy_
12:21.10Wormy_the 90's
12:21.36Wormy_drom:  When even fruit windups were violent http://jessicadaigle.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/happy-friday-not-too-much-to-report.html
12:21.37Liquid_InkTry watching the full video
12:22.52Wormy_I don't know if I'll make it to the end
12:24.11Liquid_InkOnly three minutes
12:24.14dromLiquid_Ink Wormy_: Watched the full video, it is more terrifying than The Thing
12:24.54Wormy_What the
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12:26.03Wormy_It murdered.  The.  Whole.  Family
12:26.07Liquid_InkMake Impy watch it.
12:26.38Wormy_ImpyDroiDl  Watch this, try to watch all of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyd51lvu3xw
12:26.45Wormy_ImpyDroid
12:26.51Wormy_I feel traumatised.
12:27.03HachimanOh I remember that
12:27.13Liquid_InkI think we're all broken now
12:27.15ImpyDroidNot what I remember
12:27.22ImpyDroidRussian 90s were different
12:30.23Wormy_Hachiman:  Do you remember those disturbing fruit windup comics?
12:30.38HachimanI do
12:30.44HachimanRIP THEIR HEADS OFF AND SUCK THEIR GUTS OUT
12:30.58Wormy_http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MSjW0tl8Bn4/TYNIVWWn7wI/AAAAAAAAALI/uS7ZdWnzYTg/s1600/IMG_1276.JPG  http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eNnO54wETgI/TYNHDV29jeI/AAAAAAAAALA/7R0VQW7XbDo/s1600/IMG_1277.JPG http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T8_94tvcIqA/TYNGQeBuNSI/AAAAAAAAAK4/OW9R7kL741U/s1600/IMG_1278.JPG
12:31.02Wormy_lol
12:31.33Wormy_I had forgotten that
12:32.47dromHachiamn Wormy_: Suicide Bunny
12:33.02dromIt was... subtle
12:33.39Wormy_What was that?
12:33.59dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/icIFR.jpg
12:34.31ImpyDroidWormy_: When was Earth abandoned?
12:34.35ImpyDroidIn SporeWiki
12:34.42Wormy_What I find funny are those rude sweet wrappers http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01470/maoam_1470086c.jpg
12:35.01dromWormy_: http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/img/1011_7_226_2007.jpg
12:35.03Wormy_ImpyDroid:  It has been left a mystery
12:35.16Wormy_It might have something to do with The Eye
12:35.29ImpyDroidI mean when, not why
12:35.37Wormy_Oh, read you wrong
12:35.38dromWormy_ Hachiman ImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/yfD6Jg6.gif
12:35.41Wormy_26th century
12:35.55HachimanOh I remember those little bunny strips
12:36.01HachimanThey were rather amusing
12:36.03ImpyDroidAh right
12:36.23Wormy_drom:  *Oh*, I remember them now
12:36.26dromHachiman: http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p646/hooray33/_origin_Suicide-bunny-8_zps9b86510a.jpg
12:37.13Wormy_drom:  Best Dailymail article ever http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209383/Fathers-outrage-pornographic-Haribo-MAOAM-sweet-wrappers.html
12:37.26dromWormy_ Hachiman ImpyDroid: How about this? http://i36.tinypic.com/2ypeo3t.jpg
12:38.33HachimanImpyDroid: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12743609_1767351033480219_2762723938056697040_n.jpg?oh=c725409df73871d810bd28ae24c83f19&oe=576D4A94 Spot what is wrong with this
12:38.59Wormy_oh dear
12:39.18Wormy_My star sign is a woman
12:39.44HachimanNo no
12:39.51HachimanWhat is wrong with the characters in that post
12:40.03HachimanYou know, the post about Marvel characters
12:40.32dromWormy_: So is mine too
12:40.34Wormy_Oh, DC characters
12:41.01HachimanAye
12:41.13Wormy_Well I once saw a cheap selection of superhero toys in Woolworths that had Marvel and DC characters as "friends" in it
12:42.56Wormy_drom:  https://www.ukmix.org/proxy.php?code=606a9f6e0ba66fe882be8b13b4a2ab6c997ad4090818d42f7b20e7d06b881df8&url=aHR0cDovLzQuYnAuYmxvZ3Nwb3QuY29tL190ZEhFYjNneFVyOC9SeWtTa3BjaVMtSS9BQUFBQUFBQUFvNC9DX2Z0UDk0TTY5VS9zNDAwL21hb2FtJTI1MjBjbG9zMjAxJTVCMSU1RC5qcGc%3D
12:43.11dromWormy_: I don't get it
12:43.24dromI loved that candy anyway
12:43.33Wormy_Indeed
12:43.54Wormy_But the artists couldn't have made that without smiling.
12:43.59dromI didn't get the "pornographic" vibe even if it looks like one
12:44.19HachimanI always found those images uncomforting
12:45.00dromInterestingly, they had that design for more than 10 years iirc
12:45.11dromThey still have it today too, at least in Sweden.
12:45.24Wormy_I don't think it change here.
12:45.49Wormy_Can't find Fruit Windup comics anymore though
12:46.56Wormy_We used to be able to get chocolate cigarettes in the UK.
12:47.02dromIf they wanted to make the wrappers pornographic, it would've been more obvious, add sweating and "moaning"
12:47.19Wormy_Kids would pretend they were smoking
12:47.44dromOh god hur
12:47.52dromThere are also salty sticks
12:48.07dromKids would buy those and pretend they were smoking fancy
12:48.23Wormy_Well that pear oozed some fluid on the right https://b0wie.s3.amazonaws.com/styles/img_wall/s3/maoam.jpg?EXqGE3b04I1nCf6Zu6uew_J9t33TG72t&itok=zgkakWqk
12:48.57dromHe was licking
12:50.02Wormy_Pear seems to be the most wet http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/15989000/ngbbs47fa55d6c19a0.jpg
12:50.16dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/whGVO7z.jpg
12:50.30Hachimankek
12:50.58Wormy_drm:  Did you see?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxKrskPyBuI
12:54.03dromWormy_: Da fuq lol
12:55.03dromWormy_: Regarding foxes as pets, you might like reading this article http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-10/fyi-domesticated-foxes
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12:55.20Wormy_Liquid_Ink:  I've recieved an email.  I'm to go to a government mandated anti-terrorism lesson, because my generation are simply too stupid to be trusted!
12:55.26Wormy_damnit
12:55.41Wormy_with free doughnuts
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12:56.49dromWormy_: Low how the ingress is ironic at its finest
12:56.51dromLove*
12:57.18drom"How a furry-convention-attending, Midwestern-accented fox owner teamed up with a bizarre Floridian exotic animal importer and a Soviet geneticist to bring pet foxes to your living room."
12:58.57Wormy_I think I've come across that before
13:08.52Hachiman"Water, fire, air and dirt; fucking magnets, how do they work? And I don't wanna talk to a scientist; y'all motherfuckers lying and getting me pissed." - Behold the genius that is the Insane Clown Posse
13:11.54Wormy_They look like a rap version of the Tiger Lillies
13:12.10Wormy_https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1hiJCkPX5v4/maxresdefault.jpg
13:12.45Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62-bUnLMcq4
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13:17.00dromAlright gentlemen
13:17.24dromI'm thinking of starting another "XCOM Initative" for Sporewiki
13:18.29dromExcept one thing: On XCOM 2 I've full control of customizing my soldiers
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13:19.16dromSo, all you need to do is pick a soldier from my roster.
13:20.21AndroImpHachiman: Ohgodhur
13:20.31AndroImpBTW seen the new Fog War section?
13:25.09Wormy_drom, Ghelae:  Just found an article on black hole strings,which I based the second Great Exdpedition chapter on.  http://phys.org/news/2016-02-five-dimensional-black-hole-relativity.html
13:26.13Wormy_Though I decided to picture it as a mass of such strings, for a better descriptive effect.
13:29.32dromI love my modded XCOM 2 http://i.imgur.com/WUUEiaZ.jpg
13:32.40GhelaeWormy_away: Ah, right. So it's that 5D ring-shaped black holes can form naked singularities in GR.
13:48.19dromAlright, Sporewiki: Pick your guy you want to go as in my XCOM 2 session. http://i.imgur.com/PD9wbhe.jpg
13:49.07HachimanJay "Wildling" Brown
13:50.41dromAlright. I'll change the nick name to your username, unless you specify something else or if you want to keep the old.
13:51.03AdmiralPandaHachiman: fuk u
13:51.31dromKeep in mind I have the control of changing nationalities too
13:52.51HachimanKeep Wildling, first name Lewis, surname K
13:53.01HachimanNationality is British
13:53.18dromOh, I might need to update his biography then
13:53.27HachimanAdmiralPanda: u kno nuffin jon snew
13:53.39AdmiralPandayou stole the Australian u fuk
13:54.06HachimanAustralian becomes British
13:54.11HachimanAs how things should be
13:54.27AdmiralPandayou seem to have your words backwards
13:54.44Hachimandrom has control of the nationalities hur
13:54.55dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/SgnU7Gh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DqgBNca.jpg
13:55.51Hachiman>Soldier Abilities: Slash, Blademaster, Shadowstep
13:55.57HachimanThis guy is a fucking special snowflake hur
13:56.18dromWell, he is a Ranger
13:56.31dromRangers specialize in close quarter combat
13:56.40HachimanI have not played XCOM 2 so I am largely unaware of the new classes
13:56.55HachimanBut CQC-oriented soldiers sound badass
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13:57.39AdmiralPandaDrom: if one of those sharpshooters is female, name her Natasha Scarlet, nationality russian
13:58.13dino82_hi all
13:58.15dromRangers' field specializations: "Scout" - Stealth, "Assault" - Swordmaster (CQC)
13:58.15Wormy_awayGhelae:  The truth is, in the Great Expedition, is that the whole naked singularities might have been a lie by the Draconis to keep a true secret (plus they probably don't end the universe).  I've left that as unsolved.  But yeah, the article implies they can form any in GR
13:58.16Jepardidrom: I'll go ahead take that Gunnar away from you
13:58.26Wormy_away*anyway
13:59.01Wormy_awayHowever, I believe quantum gravity theories, like fuzzballs, attempt to smooth out the singularity.
13:59.01dromAdmiralPanda: The SGT. Sharpshooter is a female, her specialization is Sniper, which is... Sniper specialization.
13:59.20AdmiralPandathen there you go
13:59.40GhelaeYes... different quantum gravity theories do it, or don't do it, in different ways. It may seem like an incredibly out-of-date idea by the 28th century.
14:00.20GhelaeBBL
14:00.31dromJepardi: Gimme your customization details
14:01.23dromAh oh. I've not given him any field specialization.
14:01.36drom"Demolitons Expert" or "Heavy Weapons", choose one
14:02.21JepardiDemolitions Expert
14:02.49dromAdmiralPanda: http://i.imgur.com/go9Uh4X.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mHHnIOe.jpg
14:04.17dromJepardi: I'll keep that in mind until he gets another promotion
14:04.30dromOr ultimately, when he dies
14:05.07Wormy_What Ghelae describes is a big problem for speculative sci-fi.  It endeavours to create a feel for the exotic and non-anthropocentric, but it must be done with modern ideas.
14:05.34Wormy_What is a problem with naked singularities now may not be by the 28th century.
14:05.54Wormy_I must go too
14:13.19dromAdmiralPanda: Next mission is a Supply Raid, but I've already sent you to training to unveil your hidden ability. So Hachiman is off to go with 6 other comrades.
14:16.06AdmiralPandafair enough
14:17.11dromHachiman: I've given you following equipment: Kevlar Vest, AK-12A (from a mod), Sword, Flashbang Grenade
14:17.22HachimanNice
14:17.36AdmiralPandaif scarlet's hidden ability isn't some permutation of "being a massive bitch" I will be unhappy
14:18.03dromOtherwise I can give you a shotgun, best for CQC, or an SMG to grant you more mobility. Aka more movement
14:18.23dromTake or leave it
14:18.30HachimanHm, let's go with shotgun
14:18.55HachimanJust hope this does not end up killing me hur
14:19.27dromHachiman: When you're killed when I try to utilize your usefulness. I'm not the one to blame hur
14:20.32dromBut since it is a 7-man squad now, you are less likely to get killed, but also less likely to increase the body count.
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14:22.46HachimanHi Imp
14:25.10AndroImpI've been here the whole time hur
14:25.17AndroImpSeen the new section for Fog War?
14:25.17dino82_hi imperios
14:25.28HachimanI don't think so
14:27.04AndroImpHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3
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14:28.20Jepardi_Hi
14:34.32dromHachiman: Okay, Hachiman. You managed to kill an evolved Sectoid with your Sword
14:34.44Hachimanayy lmao
14:35.31dromAaaand you gained a promotion! Your new ability is "Run & Gun"
14:37.20dromJepardi_: Your "Gunnar" is now a Demolitons Expert!
14:41.22dromAndroImp din82 Technobliterator TekDroid: Would any of you like to butt in yourself in my XCOM 2 game? http://i.imgur.com/UNux7X9.jpg        Keep in mind that "Hat Trick", "Wilding" and "Gunnar Johansen" are already occupied.
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14:48.06HachimanHi
14:48.12OluapPlayerHi
14:50.50dino82_hi
14:55.58dromHai
14:56.45dromI'm currently doing a XCOM initative http://i.imgur.com/UNux7X9.jpg The first two are occupied by Hachiman and AdmiralPanda, the Swede occupied by Jepardi. Choose a guy from the roster to join
14:57.12dino82_@drom: Probably not :D
14:57.26dromFound the ADVENT sympathizer!
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15:08.01CyrannianHai
15:11.07OluapPlayer~punch Cyrannian
15:11.07infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
15:11.42Cyrannian~swat OluapPlayer
15:11.42infobotACTION swats OluapPlayer with a OluapPlayer swatter
15:19.12dromAdmiralPanda Hachiman: Want to change your attitude, hehe http://i.imgur.com/GpW9JvE.jpg
15:20.39HachimanDoes it affect combat performance?
15:21.38dromNo. But affects how you act before, during and after missions. Mainly how you move, talk and what VO:s you use.
15:21.42dromWhat I know.
15:22.39HachimanI would go happy-go-lucky for mine
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15:29.50dino82_hi
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15:39.23ImperiosHi
15:40.33ImperiosHi
15:40.52ImperiosHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#Vengeance_of_the_Widow_Queen This one
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15:49.50dino82_whoops connection issues
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15:58.10MonetHello
16:01.55dino82_Monet!
16:02.39OluapPlayerhi
16:03.36Monet<PROTECTED>
16:03.49ImperiosHi Monet
16:03.58Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#Vengeance_of_the_Widow_Queen Monet: Take a look
16:04.05ImperiosThat's me trying to write about love
16:10.53Hachiman"Sheophatia waved her hand in a psychic gesture and forced the head and upper body of the young Artharon to contort, his mouth slamming against his crotch"
16:11.01HachimanJesus
16:12.39HachimanPretty good chapter that
16:13.25MonetIts an interesting perspective
16:14.00MonetThe way she tries to put logic into something as unpredictable as love is pretty fitting of her cultural background
16:15.02dromImperios Monet: *XCOM 2 Initative intensifies* http://i.imgur.com/UNux7X9.jpg
16:15.41ImperiosMonet: I actually estabilished that in 2011 or something
16:15.47Hachimaninb4 Sheopathia starts getting morning sickness at the end of Fog War
16:16.04ImperiosI just never had the chance to show that
16:16.16MonetImperios: Her thoughts certainly take a nice alternative to "love makes no sense and only dumb or backwards people think it has any meaning"
16:16.37dromHachiman: You just got killed in action
16:16.42OluapPlayerShe has bite marks on the back of her neck
16:16.45HachimanNOOOOOOOO
16:16.46OluapPlayercause cats do that
16:16.54HachimanHow did I die?
16:17.03TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, Hachiman, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq4Q3r44LGY
16:17.25Hachimanolol
16:17.30ImperiosBasically, Radeons try to rationalise emotions like love, and rather than losing themselves in passion, try to choose the right person through deduction
16:17.36ImperiosOr something like that
16:17.46ImperiosI remember telling that to Jo
16:17.56ImperiosTeenage!Jo found that awful hur
16:18.08OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: >Revolver Ocelot
16:18.10OluapPlayerI'm dying already
16:18.52Imperiosdrom: Russian woman best woman
16:20.08dromHachiamn: We were ontop of a church with zero cover to get beside. The first pod we discovered was two stun lances and a MEC unit.
16:20.14OluapPlayerolol Huey
16:20.58dromStory short, they got the initative, the MEC ran up and mircobomb half the squad and they all fell two stories. Only you survived the bombing and fall. Only to then finished off by a stun lancer.
16:21.34MonetRemind me a little of my first attempt at a raid on the ADVENT Blacksite
16:21.41TechnobliteratorQuiet: A Sniper denied of her clothes
16:22.24OluapPlayerThat was fantastic
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16:22.31HachimanAye that was incredible
16:22.37MonetI try a rooftop approach, get the drop on a group of ADVENT - an advanced soldier, a stun lancer and a MEC, but the stun lancer throws a grenade that destroys the roof and sends 3/4 of the squad down two stories.
16:22.41ImperiosHachiman: Wait how do you call a RAdeon/Artharon hybrid
16:22.43Hachimandrom: Damn, that sounds dramatic
16:22.50ImperiosCrat?
16:23.08HachimanCouse?
16:23.55Technobliteratoryeah
16:24.00Technobliteratorit's amazing
16:24.01OluapPlayerAbomination
16:24.10Imperioshttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/69/08/f6/6908f699f6837e9895573d370b225745.jpg This
16:24.40OluapPlayerThat looks like a rat animated by Dreamworks
16:24.40dromHachiman Monet: Fuck it, savescumming to my rescuse!
16:25.22Monet<PROTECTED>
16:26.11ImperiosSo I was googling for "rat cat" and I found this
16:26.15ImperiosHachiman: http://orig08.deviantart.net/b068/f/2009/344/1/0/cat_and_mouse__by_artelleart.png
16:26.20HachimanNON
16:26.32HachimanRadeons have a thing for getting with weird alien warrior people hur
16:26.55OluapPlayerJerry was a cunt and I enjoyed every episode where he lost
16:27.33Hachimanhur
16:27.40ImperiosRadeons are a very weird take on the "green alien space babe" trope
16:27.43HachimanTom was also an asshole though
16:27.55OluapPlayerHe was, but Jerry was a bigger asshole
16:28.04AdmiralPandathey were both bastards, which is why I was so immensely satisfied no matter who got harmed
16:28.17MonetIsn't Jerry mostly innocent in about like half the episodes? I swear there are a number of episodes where he's just trying ot get by or live peacefull and Tom wants ot get rid of him.
16:28.21ImperiosLike they are kind of cute but very hard to actually get to
16:28.46OluapPlayerThere are, but there are also episodes where Jerry provokes Tom into chasing him and gets away with it in the end
16:28.47ImperiosUnlike most "sexy alien" races which are hot *and* slutty
16:28.53ImperiosLike asari for example
16:29.28MonetI agree with Panda; they both had times of being jerks.
16:29.42HachimanButch is best <3
16:29.53AdmiralPandaAsari are a perfect example of why fantasy is brilliant, because they're a species with a cultural imperative to fuck everything
16:30.11OluapPlayerhur
16:30.31MonetAdmiralPanda: ANd no risk of SPace HIV
16:30.57AdmiralPanda^
16:31.26AdmiralPandajust a minute chance of the non-asari picking poorly and getting their brain fried
16:31.47ImperiosOluapPlayer: Just so you would know
16:31.54ImperiosThe mouse here is a guy
16:31.57HachimanYes, asari have an imperative to fuck everything; including krogan, salarians, batarians, vorcha,
16:32.15OluapPlayerWhat you on about
16:32.18AdmiralPandahanar
16:32.19drom<PROTECTED>
16:32.20dromFuck yeah
16:32.30Hachimanhur
16:32.38MonetImperios: Both Tom and Jerry were dudes.
16:32.50ImperiosIAs in
16:32.56Imperioshttp://orig08.deviantart.net/b068/f/2009/344/1/0/cat_and_mouse__by_artelleart.png This picture
16:33.12HachimanAsari are inclined to fuck the most grotesque species in the galaxy
16:33.21OluapPlayerI know it's a guy, they're anthro versions of Tom and Jerry
16:33.26OluapPlayerDon't get why you're telling me that
16:33.30AdmiralPandawhich means Hachi might actually have a chance :P
16:34.11ImperiosOluapPlayer: The mouse looks girly on that pic
16:34.30OluapPlayerNot really
16:34.33OluapPlayerAnd I know it's Jerry
16:34.36OluapPlayerStill don't get your point
16:35.01MonetHachiman: One of my stand-out favourite moments was when this Asari was getting cold feet over a poetic Krogan and ocnfest to Shepard that "Krogan live for a thousand years. It's not like with humans when you can just screw them for a century before they die" and Shepard pulls the best "the fuck you say?" face ever.
16:35.18Hachimanolol
16:35.50ImperiosMonet: http://orig07.deviantart.net/8b33/f/2013/332/f/4/uk_immigration_troll_by_valendale-d6vxwz0.jpg
16:36.08ImperiosMonet: That's kinda what Sheophatia thought hur
16:36.21ImperiosRadeons live for 400 years, Artharons live for 40
16:36.29HachimanAlso bloody hell, krogan can live for thousands of years
16:36.50OluapPlayerI thought Radeons were longer lived than that
16:36.53MonetWell...yeah
16:36.54OluapPlayerHow do you not know that, you're the resident ME ragetard]
16:37.01MonetWreks is pretty old.
16:37.08OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure Wrex is over a thousand
16:37.12HachimanI must have missed it
16:37.22HachimanI did not imagine the krogan being a particularly long-lived species considering that pre-Genophage they bred like rabbits
16:37.36HachimanAnd species that breed quickly do not have particularly expansive lifespans
16:37.48OluapPlayerActually I don't remember any mention of krogans dying of old age
16:38.27MonetIt might be Krogan are one of those species that don't have a maximum lifespan
16:38.51OluapPlayerNo one knows how old they get because they don't survive that long
16:39.14MonetWhen you have a redundant nervous system, backup organs, a powerful immune system and an advanced regenerative ability, you're pretty resistant ot the ravaging effect of time.
16:40.34OluapPlayerStill I'm a bit amused that Radeons only live 400 years, that means the Dracogonarious can live over twice longer than them
16:42.31ImperiosRadeon - FUK U
16:42.37ImperiosI dunno I might retcon that
16:42.49ImperiosOr state that their lifespan became longer after the New Dawn
16:42.49OluapPlayerDracogonarious - no do ur homework
16:42.59OluapPlayerdat dun make sense
16:43.06ImperiosScience
16:43.14MonetOluapPLayer: Was Wrex born before or after the Krogan Rebellions?
16:43.37OluapPlayerWas it not during?
16:43.40ImperiosThey had a pretty big scientific renaissance after the AW
16:43.51MonetThen he's at least 1500 years old.
16:44.05OluapPlayerI think I recall mention of him dating back from the Rebellions
16:44.33OluapPlayerAgh where's Xho
16:44.36OluapPlayer~summon Xho
16:44.36infobotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Xho's coordinates
16:45.21ImperiosMonet: http://orig07.deviantart.net/8b33/f/2013/332/f/4/uk_immigration_troll_by_valendale-d6vxwz0.jpg
16:45.41MonetThe human lifespan back in the stone age was aroudn 35, but that's mostly because there were a lot of young deaths
16:45.43OluapPlayerYou already posted that
16:45.45OluapPlayerExactly 10 minutes ago
16:45.58ImperiosOoops
16:46.11MonetEven i nclassical times, if you didn't die in youth, you had a fairly solid chance of living to 50 or 60.
16:46.46MonetDespite the medicical ability of the time, Leonardo da Vinci lives to about 75.
16:46.51Monetmedical*
16:47.06HachimanYeah it is dumb that children are taught that people had shorter natural lifespans before the modern age
16:47.32HachimanBut then I feel a lot of things children are taught is dumb
16:47.37MonetHachiman: It's simplification of the data.
16:47.38OluapPlayer60 is short compared to 100
16:47.56Hachiman100 is not the average hur
16:48.08OluapPlayerYet
16:48.11MonetAverage lifespan estimates tended to factor in infant mortality rate.
16:48.22MonetHachi's right.
16:48.36OluapPlayerThe elderly are growing in number every year
16:48.46MonetAverage lifespans in the developed world tend to be between 80-90.
16:48.53OluapPlayerIt's actually a problem some places will suffer. Too many children and too many elders, not enough adults
16:49.09HachimanThen you know what this calls for
16:49.10HachimanA cull
16:49.17OluapPlayerYes
16:49.19OluapPlayerCull the children
16:49.23HachimanAnd the elderly
16:49.28HachimanThey will be dead soon anyway
16:49.29OluapPlayerNo just the children
16:49.34HachimanMay as well help them
16:49.39OluapPlayerGrandpa is cool tho
16:50.16MonetThat's mroe simplification
16:50.18HachimanI may be biased because a lot of grandparents I know of are intolerant, judgemental traditionalists
16:50.26HachimanIncluding my own and I hate them
16:50.53OluapPlayerBetween the stereotypic elder and the stereotypic kid, I'd take the elder every day
16:50.56OluapPlayerI hate children
16:51.03MonetIn developed nations, the "replacement rate" as it is called, tends to dip below the average of two children epr parent.
16:51.25Monetnot average sorry
16:51.36Monetthe minimum
16:53.31Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12742284_2198682896821424_2208949401494065899_n.jpg?oh=269fb78526ef87dc73683696c9c60996&oe=572ECACF Speaking of children
16:54.25Monet<PROTECTED>
16:55.20Technobliteratoralso
16:55.25Technobliteratorthe elders are going to die soon anyway
16:55.39Technobliteratorno cull needed
16:55.40Monet<PROTECTED>
16:56.23HachimanI agree with depriving children of their naivety of how the world functions
16:56.36MonetWHen they learn the truth you basically shatter their understanding of how the world works. And they come up with theories that suggest some sort of organised chaos.
16:56.48OluapPlayerThe point is that elders will live longer thanks to advancing technology, and there will be less working adults
16:57.48HachimanWhat I propose is essentially a real life equivalent of Logan's Run with added infantile decimation
16:58.49MonetOluapWorker: Or improving technology could mean people would be able to work longer int otheir adult life.
16:58.49AdmiralPandais it bad that I just designed a cyberpunk character to kill people by cyber-kicking people in the nuts
16:58.50AdmiralPanda?
16:59.37OluapPlayerI've not been Worker in nearly a year hur
17:00.24HachimanAdmiralPanda: Lemme guess; spiked tip boots
17:00.42AdmiralPandaI was more thinking enhanced myomar cyberlegs with popup monoblades
17:00.52MonetAs much as I despise Rueprt Murdoch. The dude's 84 and still and is still executive chairman of both Fox and NewsCorp.
17:01.15MonetHe's 84 and still working.
17:01.22AdmiralPandaso basically you get capoeira kicked in hte balls by a monoblade propelled by fuckoff powerful cyberlimbs
17:01.24AdmiralPandahave fun :)
17:01.44MonetBye-bye pelvis.
17:01.45OluapPlayerCyberfoot, meet cyberdong
17:02.57AdmiralPandaI mathed out the damage and basically unless you're a military cyborg the blunt force trauma is almost guaranteed to KO you, if it doesn't kill you outright
17:02.58HachimanThis is why Cyberpunk is a great system
17:03.21Hachimanand y we need 2 try dis at sum point grr
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17:04.00ImperiosMonet: T
17:04.17ImperiosMonet: And that's why you will eventually face a Great Migration-style population shift :p
17:04.20ImperiosMUSLAMIC RAY GUNS
17:04.33AdmiralPandawud du but no ppl
17:04.40Hachimanoluap pls
17:04.44MonetOluapWorker: if you think today's oldest are old, remember we have fururists claiming the last few years of newborns are the first of immortal generation.
17:05.12MonetOluapPlayer*
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17:07.32Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Republic-class_Star_Dreadnought - New ship, c dis
17:07.42HachimanYou missed us whining at you to play Cyberpunk and Monet informing you that the newborns in the last few years will be the first immortals
17:07.57OluapPlayerdemocracy bich
17:08.14OluapPlayerYou missed me saying "fuk yo futurist shi"
17:08.15ImpyDroidSeriously though, though it will likely take a lot more time than what wing nuts say, but the European population will likely one day be displaced
17:08.36ImpyDroidLike it did during the Middle Ages
17:08.56HachimanBut you can play an elf / orc / dwarf in Cyberpunk
17:08.59HachimanAnd beastmen
17:09.01AdmiralPandajust sayin, all I want is for someone to get bisected vertically between the legs by a guy with a chainsaw hand
17:09.43MonetImpyDroid: We might end up doing what Europeans did 500 years ago - Move ot another continent and fill it with Europeans who then whine about immigrants.
17:09.45ImpyDroidWhat kind of cyberpunk is this that has orcs and elves
17:09.51ImpyDroidShadowrun
17:10.03ImpyDroidMonet: But there is no land left
17:10.09ImpyDroidUnless we go into space
17:10.14MonetImpydroid: A cyberpunk setting with some very good genetic engineering/cosmetic surgery
17:10.15HachimanWell they are not *true* orcs and elves; you just modify your appearance to look convincingly like them
17:10.15MonetImpyDroid: MArs.
17:10.53MonetOr better, the ESA builds a colony ship to Europa.
17:11.07HachimanCyberpunk's culture is quite bizarre when it has become a cultural norm to pay for biological augmentation in order to possibly look like a fantasy stereotype or an anthro
17:11.16HachimanOr something from an anime
17:11.44MonetIn some ways I think it might be forward-thinking
17:11.52ImpyDroidMonet: America in space
17:12.00Hachimandis is wat feminism is doin 2 our country
17:12.19AdmiralPandaor look like a bunny girl and get twenty thousand euro worth of cyberware to make yourself the ultimate whore
17:12.28MonetLook at the poeple who get fake muscle implants or buy enough plastic ot make themselves look like dolls.
17:12.30Hachimanhur
17:12.54MonetBuying surgery to become something you can't normally be is becoming a social expectation.
17:12.57HachimanYet on the other side of the coin, you can pay to go full Raiden mode
17:13.36OluapPlayerThis talk reminds me of that one comic where you're misled into thinking the guy wants to do surgery to become a woman but he actually turns into a dragon in the end
17:13.48Hachimanwat
17:13.58OluapPlayerYou never seen that?
17:14.03HachimanI don't recall
17:14.11OluapPlayerLemme find it
17:14.20Hachimanneva knew dey wrote comics bout monet hurdur
17:14.26MonetOluapPLayer: IS that the one where you have a kid playing with princess dolls and model castles?
17:14.36OluapPlayerYes
17:14.53MonetI think IMp linked it once
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17:14.58GhelaeHello.
17:15.00OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/968/780/2e5.png here
17:15.01MonetHi
17:15.34MonetYeah i remmeber this comic
17:15.45AdmiralPandasince we're talking about RPGs, for Hachi's nordic campaign I'm going to play not a fighty guy
17:15.57AdmiralPandaeither social, skill or backline
17:16.35HachimanYet you considered a dwarf for social when they have a CHA penalty hur
17:16.53OluapPlayerliving dangerously
17:17.11Hachimannot gonna accept ppl who dunt go minmaximus grrrr
17:17.22OluapPlayeri'm off ur game then
17:17.30Hachimanfuk u
17:17.46AdmiralPandawas considering dwarf rogue becus pick locks and shit
17:17.58HachimanSo yeah, Panda decided that this time around he is not gonna play Genocidecles
17:18.23OluapPlayerYou speak it like he always does that
17:18.29HachimanHe does that a lot of the time
17:18.34OluapPlayerI'm the one who always goes for Genocidecles
17:18.52MonetI can't say anything as I've only been in a couple of games
17:19.10AdmiralPandait's more that I basically always play martial characters but it's rarely the martial part of them that I enjoy
17:19.52MonetI remember Panda plays paladins (one was a charmer) and Oluap made a cute cleric girl who decided ot get cat ears.
17:20.02HachimanWOLF ears
17:20.09OluapPlayerand a tail
17:20.09AdmiralPandausually it's the RP and the ability to walk away from enough damage to kill the rest of the party put together
17:20.14MonetI haven't played enough to reliably say who often plays what.
17:20.27MonetHachiman: Still pointy and on the crown.
17:20.42AdmiralPandaHachi always plays pervs
17:20.50OluapPlayerThat was still my best decision in rpgs ever
17:21.05AdmiralPandabtw if we do ever play cyberpunk and you don't get a Mr Studd(tm) I'm going to be very disappointed
17:21.13Hachimanhur
17:21.24HachimanAnd not the decision where you performed necromancy despite being the Cleric of a Good deity hur
17:21.27OluapPlayerThe temptation to add more wolf girls in my game is pretty big
17:21.38HachimanWell there are catfolk as a race
17:21.48HachimanNot in my game but yours
17:21.50OluapPlayerIt was okay though because the result of that necromancy became the goddess's best dog
17:22.03MonetAnd an angel by the end
17:22.23AdmiralPandaI'm still not entirely sure why I let you do that, probably mostly out of not wanting to crush a poor newb's dreams
17:22.32MonetHoly megawoof.
17:22.34OluapPlayerMy logic at the time was "i'm gonna turn these bones into a servant of the god"
17:22.42Hachimanbut dats slavery
17:22.55OluapPlayerIt's not slavery if it's an animal
17:23.06MonetHe's right
17:23.08Hachimanfien              animal abuse
17:23.13MonetPet
17:23.21OluapPlayerbut he became immune to swords and arrows
17:23.25OluapPlayerI helped him if anything
17:23.30AdmiralPandahe was still dead
17:23.41OluapPlayerOnly half so
17:23.41AdmiralPandayou just raised a puppet from its cadaver
17:23.43HachimanWE killed him nonetheless
17:23.57MonetMaybe we could have considered a more badass name than "shambles"
17:24.03OluapPlayerShambles was an adult tho
17:24.04HachimanShambles is a fucking great name
17:24.26OluapPlayerI gave him belly rubs in his ribcage
17:24.29OluapPlayerAt least in my head I did
17:24.49HachimanShambles was a good boy
17:25.01MonetAnd here I thought I as the wolf-fan.
17:25.13MonetI think Oluap might have surpassed me.
17:25.19OluapPlayerI've never seen you express liking over wolves
17:25.39HachimanBut yeah, somebody or more people need to consider opting for frontline duty in the Nordic campaign because I am not dealing with four spellcasters
17:25.45HachimanOr three spellcasters and a support
17:25.54OluapPlayerALL WIZARD PARTY GO
17:26.05MonetOluapPlayer: I'm subtle. I have an entire favourites library on DA of wolves and werewolves.
17:26.19OluapPlayerI see
17:26.26HachimanThat's hardly subtle
17:26.38OluapPlayerIt is when he doesn't tell anyone about it
17:26.42HachimanTrue
17:27.19HachimanAlso if I end up with an All Wizard party or anything of the like I am gonna be so pissed hur
17:27.37OluapPlayerdunt u wanna watch the magic missiles fly
17:27.44Hachimani want u 2 liv
17:27.58MonetAls opossibly the other clue is I'm an absolute sucker for Fenrir.
17:28.24OluapPlayerHire dumb strong orc bodyguard -> level up until we reach OP spell level -> buff dumb strong orc bodyguard so he's even stronger -> nuke the countryside
17:28.25HachimanI get reminded of that one DS2 video where like three guys were cosplaying as the Xanthous King and bombarded invaders with pyromancy
17:28.37AdmiralPandaso what you're saying is Monet is going to play a barbarian
17:28.42AdmiralPandaand wear a lot of wolf pelts
17:29.06HachimanOh I should also note
17:29.07MonetMaaaybe
17:29.19HachimanThere will be plenty of Anglo-Saxons / Christians to raid, pillage, and sack
17:29.30OluapPlayerur real world names mean nothin to me
17:29.31HachimanBecause you are Vikings and you will do as Vikings did hur
17:29.48AdmiralPandaso yeah we're basically going to be raiding nonstop
17:29.56AdmiralPandaand bringing back all of the attractive ladies
17:29.59OluapPlayerIs that so?
17:30.06HachimanRaiding, drinking, killing the occasional monster
17:30.15HachimanActually no you will be killing lots of monsters
17:30.23MonetOluapPlayer: Fenrir: Giant fuckoff massive wolf and one of Loki's sons.
17:30.33AdmiralPandanah, just raiding
17:30.34HachimanAnd also lots of other people hur
17:30.35OluapPlayerI know who Fenrir is. I was asking Hachi and Panda about the game
17:30.36AdmiralPandaand drinking
17:30.54AdmiralPandawhy fight monsters when there's people who are squisher and with more attractive ladies?
17:31.05OluapPlayerbecause monsters are much manlier than silly humanoids
17:31.14OluapPlayerAnd the ladies love monster slayers
17:31.14MonetOluapPLayer: Sorry. My bad
17:31.16HachimanBecause you get good shit from killing monsters and if you go with the easier options you will be less rewarded
17:31.43AdmiralPandaiunno ladies are a pretty big reward
17:31.53Hachimanu fink beowulf earned his reputashun by goin 4 easy pickins          i dunt fink so son
17:32.08HachimanAlthough Beowulf was also a tremendous liar now that I think about it
17:32.09AdmiralPandaand since you're going for realism there'll be plenty of well-sponsored churches and chapels to raid full of golden chalices e.t.c. :P
17:32.51MonetMonsters don't drop money. Except dragons of course.
17:33.05HachimanImportant thing is that you will not finish the campaign without killing at least one asshole dragon
17:33.05OluapPlayerYou sell the monster's valuable bits for good coin
17:33.29MonetHachiman: Yay
17:33.33HachimanAlso the number of monsters you kill equates to how many attractive women you earn without having to raid
17:34.14OluapPlayerIf that's the core of the campaign, I think I'll go for dwarf fighter
17:34.15AdmiralPandabut we don't have to pay/seduce the women we get from raiding
17:34.39HachimanThat is rape though hur
17:34.44OluapPlayerAnd wear a BIG, POINTED HELMET
17:34.52OluapPlayerHORNED even
17:35.02HachimanI am not gonna argue against horned helmets
17:35.14HachimanLike as much as people say they hate them, I find them cool nonetheless
17:35.28OluapPlayerNow I just had an idea
17:35.33AdmiralPandafrankly, what do you expect?
17:35.36OluapPlayerGet a monster's horns and put them on the helmet
17:35.50MonetIt's not that they're not cool, its their questionable practicality.
17:36.27HachimanOh also, in case it concerns anyone
17:36.30HachimanHalf-giants are a playable race
17:36.32OluapPlayerActually that's an interesting concept, I might go for that
17:36.38OluapPlayerI want increasingly deadlier horns in my helmet
17:36.51HachimanNeed feats for lethal headbutt damage hur
17:36.54MonetOluapPlayer: http://orig13.deviantart.net/5b05/f/2014/272/c/d/megaloceros_by_sameerprehistorica-d6hs7bo.jpg How about these for headwear?
17:37.28OluapPlayerThat's for the ceremonial helmet
17:37.35HachimanKeep in mind he is a dwarf and that is larger than a person hur
17:37.46HachimanActually wait dwarfs are medium creatures in Pathfinder
17:37.48HachimanI keep forgetting
17:37.58OluapPlayerThey're medium creatures everywhere, not just Pathfinder
17:38.03MonetStill an impressive pair though
17:38.33OluapPlayerI just need to buff my STR until it reaches the point I don't have to care hur
17:38.37MonetThey're short, not tiny.
17:39.21HachimanDo not finalize anything until Session 0 which should be taking place this Saturday if I recall
17:39.32OluapPlayeraka tomorrow
17:39.42HachimanOh yeah hur
17:40.45OluapPlayerI want to play every class fully at least once. I played a fighter once but that campaign lasted what, 3 sessions
17:40.57MonetI'm going ot be away for the day tomorrow but hopefully I'll be back by the evening
17:41.02OluapPlayerAt some point I want a class with a familiar so I can have a CUTE red panda
17:41.03Hachimanu betta b
17:41.22HachimanIf you wanted a red panda familiar you should have decided to go Oriental hur
17:41.53OluapPlayerWell a fighter can't have a familiar, so it'd not matter regardless
17:42.07OluapPlayerAnd I only learned red panda familiars were a thing after you sent me Bestiary 5
17:42.48MonetYou could still buy one as a pet right?
17:42.48HachimanTrue
17:43.03HachimanCan you buy red pandas in Norse lands hur
17:43.08OluapPlayerBig burly horned dwarf and his adorable red panda pet
17:43.17MonetPossibly
17:43.35OluapPlayerIt's fantasy, you don't need to follow real world geography hur
17:43.42Hachimanbutbut thematics
17:43.44MonetTheoretically said Red Panda might have been bought by a trader in Constantinople.
17:44.05OluapPlayerNot that I want one in this campaign. If we're getting animals for the party I'd rather get one that'll help in combat
17:44.10OluapPlayerLike a wolf
17:44.39HachimanI can only imagine how Random will react to Panda deciding to be a Rogue
17:44.48Hachimancus dat meens randum cant b a skill monkey agen
17:45.26OluapPlayerThen I put a little horned helmet on the wolf too
17:45.48HachimanI am not letting you put a horned helmet on a wolf hur
17:45.55OluapPlayerWhy not hur
17:45.56HachimanYou are free to give it armour
17:46.06Hachimancus helmets on animals is silly
17:46.19OluapPlayerOkay mr srs bsns
17:46.41OluapPlayerNext game I should force you to wear proper clothes and shoes all the time
17:46.58HachimanI am slutty, not silly
17:47.17HachimanAnd walking around barefoot is an expression of my elven heritage u racist fuk
17:47.33MonetMaybe the wold could wear a helmet that's practical for wolves?
17:47.43ImperiosWhat the hell are you two even talking about hur
17:47.47MonetIf it can wear armour why not a wolf-suitable helmet?
17:47.50ImperiosAlso
17:47.52Imperios>Constantinope
17:47.58ImperiosBYZANTINE <3333
17:47.58OluapPlayerYou don't restrict the players from having fun
17:48.05OluapPlayerIf I want to put a helmet on a wolf, I damn well will
17:48.33HachimanA wolf-suitable helmet works but I know that Oluap plans to strap a literal miniature Viking helmet on its head hur
17:48.41ImperiosWhat are you talking about hur
17:48.46ImperiosAnother RPG of yours?
17:48.52OluapPlayerSame way I gave Clotholaire a wolf tail for no practical reason but ti look cute
17:48.54OluapPlayer*to
17:49.35OluapPlayerYes
17:49.58HachimanNO!!! vikings r..... NOT CUTE
17:50.16OluapPlayerNot with that attitude
17:50.20Hachimanhur
17:50.27HachimanAnd yes, another Pathfinder campaign
17:50.50AdmiralPandasee, more reason it should have been oriental, cos then cute girls in cherry orchards
17:51.16HachimanYou're the one who said Nordic first hur
17:51.41OluapPlayerAfter we reach high level, we breach dimensions and pillage the oriental world
17:51.41OluapPlayerand steal a red panda while we're at it
17:51.41dromJepardi_: Your Gunnar Johansen has reached Sergant rank! Demolition is you new ability, and you've gained a nick: 'Blaze'
17:51.41AdmiralPandaI said nordic because I forgot I wanted to play an alchemist, shut it you
17:51.47Hachimandis is y u shud fink bout ur decishuns b4 u maek dem
17:52.04AdmiralPandafuk u, u put it to a vote before I had time to think about it
17:52.26AdmiralPandaif the vote was left to session 0 I would have remembered I wanted to play an alchemist
17:52.41OluapPlayerWhy not just play an alchemist now?
17:52.51HachimanCus he feels Alchemists are not thematically fitting
17:53.03AdmiralPandacus they're not
17:53.16OluapPlayerThen make them fit
17:53.23HachimanI didn't outlaw them hur
17:53.36AdmiralPandaslaps Oluap
17:53.43OluapPlayerrude
17:53.57AdmiralPandanot gon play somethin that I can't put imagery to, and nordic alchemist just don't math out
17:53.58HachimanPersonally I feel a drugged-up brewmaster-turned-berserker is fitting
17:56.01HachimanBest thing about playing a Norse-oriented campaign is that I can give you all ironic nicknames when you start getting gud
17:56.17HachimanOluap the Tall, for example
17:56.47OluapPlayerEh
17:56.49OluapPlayerSounds dum
17:59.05MonetEvery nickname has a story
17:59.37HachimanIvar the Boneless, for example, is theorized by some to be called that because he was big-boned
18:00.04HachimanA lot of other people say he is called the Boneless because he could not use his legs properly and had to be carried by shield
18:03.22MonetSounds like his name was a friendly joke
18:04.23HachimanAye
18:04.30HachimanVikings were like that
18:06.17Monethttp://forces.tv/16132374 something a bit like that still happens today
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18:06.45MonetAre you a Sgy. James Gordon? Expect your squaddies ot start calling you "Flash"
18:06.47MonetSgt.*
18:12.29MonetSo callign Oluap's dwarf "the tall" I can see that
18:13.53OluapPlayerI would rather have a nickname that fits the character
18:14.43HachimanOluap the Horny
18:14.49Hachimancus horned helm c
18:15.27MonetAye
18:16.03MonetIts rare for a nickname to intentionally sound badass.
18:16.24HachimanOne of the most badass Vikings had a nickname which essentially translated to "Ragnar Hairy Breaches"
18:17.27Hachiman*Breeches, rather
18:18.16HachimanPresumably because he had hairy legs or something
18:18.44MonetAccording to this http://www.space.com/16280-buzz-aldrin.html "Buzz" isn't Aldrin's first name, it's shorthand for the way his sister pronounced "brother" as "buzzer"
18:19.08HachimanHuh
18:19.36MonetWell in a way it is his first name.
18:19.57MonetHe adopted it, but was born Edwin Eugene Aldrin Jr.
18:21.16HachimanAnother thing I find kinda amusing about Vikings is that by traditional naming conventions, Vikings could and often would have names like "Bjorn Bjornsson" or "Skarssen Skarssensson"
18:21.44MonetYeah
18:21.57OluapPlayerVikings didn't have much imagination
18:21.57MonetLief Eriksson -> Son of Eric the Red.
18:22.04AdmiralPandain hte middle ages, central europe shared 23 distinct names
18:22.07AdmiralPandajust 23
18:22.11HachimanJesus what
18:22.36MonetOluapPlayer: Still happens in Nordic countries. They don't believe in family names
18:22.39AdmiralPandafactoring in regional variations of course, btu yeah 23 names
18:23.31MonetWell, I think some of the Nordic countries have adopted more mainline conventions but iirc no one in Iceland has a fmaily name.
18:23.37HachimanOluapPlayer: Well the full name would equate to "Bjorn, Son of Bjorn" when translated, but as far as I know Vikings could change their surnames to a nickname
18:24.55HachimanLike Bjorn Ironside, whose name would have been Bjorn Ragnarson before his name was changed
18:25.05HachimanRagnarsson even
18:27.35HachimanAlso what
18:28.30HachimanLeif Eriksson was Erik the Red's son?
18:28.39HachimanI had no idea the two were related
18:29.09MonetThe name's a slight clue.
18:29.13MonetThen again I guess Erik is pretty common
18:29.20HachimanYeah I was gonna say
18:29.33HachimanErik is a rather common name so I figured that he must have been related to a different Erik
18:30.45MonetWho his father was did become advantageous to discovering America
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18:31.51LuxorHereAye
18:32.08Monethi
18:32.17GhelaeHello.
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18:32.54LuxorHereI think I have a neat idea for a fictional empire existing 3 billion years BNE, and an idea to mix it with Da Reckoning.
18:33.09HachimanKinda funny that Leif's family has a history of crime
18:33.27MonetCrime?
18:34.17HachimanThorvald, Erik the Red's father, was exiled from Norway and settled in Iceland due to manslaughter; Erik himself was exiled from Iceland for a few years because of "some killings" he committed
18:34.19MonetI know they had a colonial lineage.
18:35.29MonetI guess it made them quite a mobile family
18:36.02HachimanSome of Erik's thralls on his farm accidentally caused a landslide on one of his friend's neighbouring farms, Eyiolf the Foul, who killed the thralls; in turn, Erik murdered Eyiolf
18:36.20HachimanAnd Eyiolf's kinsmen demanded Erik's exile
18:38.29HachimanWhen he moved to Iceland, he requested some items of sentimental value to him from a friend he had gifted them to in order to look after them; he ended up having to take them himself after being refused them by said friend, Thorgest, and ended up killing Thorgest's sons and a few other people
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18:39.01ZF101Hello all.
18:39.06HachimanHi
18:39.19LuxorHereAye
18:39.33HalopediamanWhat an inspiration to us all.
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18:39.36HachimanIt seems the easiest solution for Erik was just to fucking murder people who crossed him hur
18:41.04MonetCould be one reason he was called "the red"
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18:43.14HachimanAlso apparently Leif and his wife, Thjothhild, had disputes over the fact that Leif disliked being a Christian and she refused to have sex with him when he decided to stick to the traditional Norse pantheon
18:44.27MonetLemme guess, he stabbed her.
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18:44.43ZF101Or something worse, considering the times.
18:45.03Wormy_hi
18:45.25HachimanOh wait sorry, I got mixed up
18:45.28ZF101Hello all.
18:45.44HachimanErik was married to Thjothhild, not Leif
18:46.11HachimanLeif actually became an evangelist I think
18:46.17HachimanWhich his father thought was dumb
18:46.36MonetHe converted to christianity
18:46.55MonetAnd was married to Thorgunna
18:47.00HachimanYeah
18:47.28MonetApparently his children were named "Thorgils" and "Thorkell"
18:47.36HachimanI can just imagine Erik being a grumpy old man
18:47.59HachimanHis ancestors did not raid and massacre Anglo-Saxons for this shit
18:50.17MonetThen again I'm not entirely sure where form europe Christianity spread from
18:50.41MonetBut most likely it was spread my merchants.
18:56.16OluapPlayerI feel bored and tired all the sudden
18:57.48AdmiralPandaI feel bored and tired cos it's 5am and I can't think of any character ideas I like
18:58.17OluapPlayerGo to sleep
18:58.55AdmiralPandano
18:59.45HachimanYou're not gonna do yourself any favours by staying up
19:00.17AdmiralPandagot places to be in 3 hours so it's too late to go to sleep
19:00.23HachimanOuch
19:04.47Wormy_You could probably sleep for 3 hours and get up reasonably well.
19:04.56Wormy_Without entering deep sleep
19:05.11MonetI think I once did that last year
19:05.21Wormy_I did it too much this year :P
19:05.22HachimanI would not recommend it
19:06.02MonetYou feel like crud when you wake up
19:06.34Wormy_I find I would feel worse at 5 hours sleep, than 2 or 3 hours, obviously it takes me that long to enter deep sleep.
19:08.24Wormy_But I will feel worse later in the day.
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19:30.30Wormy_semi_hereGot my project, an evaluation report and a presentation to hand in Monday...
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20:06.08MonetSo I decided to watch NC's opening to Labrynth
20:06.56MonetAnd there was a skit on how traumatising 80s kids' movies were
20:11.49MonetLike Watership Down and the Secret of NIMH
20:15.19MonetI think American Tail also had a few rather dar kmoments.
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20:19.35Wormy_semi_spacesemi what?
20:19.48Wormy_semi_spaceMy brain was somewhere-else.
20:20.12OluapPlayersemi space, evidently
20:21.00Wormy_semi_spaceWhat would be a semi space?  Geometrically speaking.
20:22.14OluapPlayerLike space but only a bit
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20:22.45XhoaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
20:23.19Wormy_semi_spacehi
20:23.40XhoHi
20:23.46Xho11 hour day at work
20:23.48Xhonot cool
20:25.13Ghelae~give Xho a cookie
20:25.13infobotACTION gives Xho a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
20:25.20GhelaeNot peanut this time. That's a surprise.
20:25.44OpelSpeedsterI know that feel, I have 11 hour study days on wednesdays as well.
20:25.45Wormy_semi_spacelol
20:25.49OpelSpeedsterI always come home tired and with a headache.
20:26.14GhelaeWormy_semi_space: Mathematically speaking, I believe semi space would be exactly half of space.
20:27.21Wormy_semi_spaceWould that be, half the equations of a space? Literally a space cut in half?  Are fundamentally, half of the primitives that make a space (which I have trouble conceptualising)?
20:27.33Wormy_semi_space*or fundamentally
20:27.36Xho11 hour study day
20:27.36GhelaeLiterally a space cut in half, yes. Like a semi infinite line is a line that comes to an end in one direction, but not the other.
20:27.47OluapPlayerhi
20:28.04Xhorah
20:28.37Wormy_semi_spaceOkay that is sounds rather mundane.
20:29.21OpelSpeedsterYeah... mercifully it's only on wednesdays.
20:30.02OpelSpeedsterThough last year was arguably worse; this year I have more free time.
20:43.33dromHachiamn: Twice the time you got almost killed
20:43.42dromFortunately, I was able to stabilize you
20:43.57dromGod bless the Ukranian Specialist
20:44.35Hachimanhur
20:44.41HachimanWhat almost killed me?
20:44.52dromHachiman: A building was lit on fire and collapsed on you
20:45.02HachimanJesus
20:45.42dromI didn't pay attention to that because it was the result of a Muton standing on its roof, only to be blown up by my two grenadiers.
20:46.20MonetThe flight home must have been awkward.
20:47.25dromOddly enough you came home as "wounded" not "gravely wounded" http://i.imgur.com/7Uafdt5.jpg
20:48.18dromGod bless assault rangers. Them and their insta-kill blades
20:49.01HachimanI am a fucking badass, that is why
20:49.53Imperiosdrom: What do you mean the Ukrainian has not died yet
20:50.12dromImperios: She is the one to far left
20:50.21ImperiosNOOO
20:50.24ImperiosUKRAINIANS MUST DIE
20:50.56dromShe is doing far better than AdmiralPanda's Russian (the female sniper)
20:51.10dromSo I'm going to coin her as mine
20:52.32Hachiman>20 kills
20:52.33HachimanJesus
20:52.53dromMore than half of those were sword kills
20:52.59dromOne by shotgun
20:54.41drom"Hidden Ability unveiled for Hachiman!" ---> "Lighting Reflexes"
20:55.01dromAnd you've Shadowstep, which is pretty much the same except it applies for ALL overwatches and reaction fires
20:55.10dromHow useful </s>
20:55.56dromAnyway, Hachiman. You are now a Captain
20:56.14HachimanSweet
21:01.41dromTa-da http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/X-COM_2_Initiative
21:02.42dromFeel free to request a persona from me
21:03.07Imperiosdrom: Call her "Ksyusha Buryan"
21:03.57dromWhat does that mean? hur
21:05.45OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ1d2PQ2f1s
21:07.02Technobliteratorhahaha
21:07.04Technobliteratorbased modders
21:07.30Technobliteratorit makes the mission so trivially easy
21:08.03OluapPlayerIt is even without mods
21:08.08OluapPlayerYou just drop boxes on her head
21:08.21OluapPlayerThat was the first mission I got an S in
21:09.05HachimanOh wow
21:09.45HachimanI remember Monet's old XCOM Initiative thing
21:09.53Hachiman"Col. Lewis has been an outstanding performer despite several cases of stress-induced panic, even more extraordinary is that many of these panic-attacks have saved lives."
21:10.39OluapPlayerAll the ayys were distracted by the soldier going literally apeshit, giving the others time to ambush them
21:10.45Hachimanhur
21:11.10HachimanI hope XCOM 2 managed to improve on the enemy
21:11.13Hachimanayy i
21:11.25dromYeah. The enemies are lot more annoying to deal with
21:11.42dromBut they are easy to pick off by one and one if you get all the squad size upgrades
21:15.08drom8-man squad! Roll out to crush filthy alien sympathizers!"
21:15.21Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEQTvEmWXkk deer lord
21:19.23MonetHachiman: I remember a few times where a panicked Col. Lewis managed ot shoot down Mutons who were preparing ot kill other soldiers
21:20.06HachimanMutons do not have shit on me
21:20.44MonetI can't recall if that included a berserker.
21:20.47MonetBut probably
21:21.06Monetdrom: Can I have a soldier?
21:22.43dromMonet: Yes. I'm currently on a mission, I'll return you later
21:22.47drom6
21:24.17MonetI think the best bit I remmeber is Xho's soldier was amazing, a lethal soldier, a bane to the aliens, and I think the dossier would consider "the only way this guy would be more dangerous is if he was psychic"
21:24.45HachimanDid he test positive?
21:24.45MonetLo and behold after a test, Xho's soldier *was* psychic.
21:24.56HachimanOh GOD
21:25.29OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6JzJWDgNYI Quiet gets played like a damn fiddle
21:25.52MonetHachiman: I think that was also Command's reaction.
21:26.14MonetComplete with dramatic removing of glasses to reveal a horrified stare.
21:26.56Technobliteratorlmao
21:27.12Technobliteratortfw I know the Japanese text but not the words
21:28.03Hachimani dunt get it
21:28.23OluapPlayerHe's fucking punching her around
21:28.47HachimanOh God I just got to it
21:30.01dromStuntard runs up to Hachiman, triggering his bladestorm
21:30.11OluapPlayerOh boy it gets better
21:30.13dromNeedless to say, the stuntard was turned to kebab
21:33.06dromA pod of 3 Sectoids
21:33.08dromFUCK ME
21:36.08ImpyDroidWormy_: Can you rename [[File:Vorgormon Demoness.png]] to Olgroha Krava.png please?
21:36.19ImpyDroidNo Morgothbot
21:36.19dromOh. I got Hachiman to flashbang the 3 Sectoids, they ran away
21:36.21ImpyDroidDrat
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21:38.05ZF101Hello all.
21:38.45ImpyDroidXho: What rank would the Vorgormon and Fendrassi demons have in the Dominion military
21:40.49Opel|AwayHi Zilla
21:54.45dromAlright, time to blow up the first Blacksite!
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21:57.00Wormy_semi_spaceImpyDroid: Done
21:57.56Wormy_semi_spaceDeleted redirect so if you linked it anywhere it will need relinking.  I would but in this case I'm busy.
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21:59.23DrodoEmpireHi
21:59.28OpelSpeedsterHello
21:59.31Monet_2hi
21:59.33GhelaeHello.
21:59.37Halopediamanhowdy
21:59.54ImpyDroidMonet_2: http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-004jpg-c74967.jpg HOLY SHIT
22:00.43Monet_2...a Warcraft cosmology?
22:01.03ImpyDroidA canon one even
22:01.07Monet_2This. Is. Awesome
22:01.36ImpyDroidThis is a preview of the new Warcraft Chronicles thing
22:01.38ImpyDroidAlso this
22:01.48ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-011jpg-0d80a7.jpg MON
22:01.57Monet_2....and as I move on to this link http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/02/19/ragnaros-and-ysera-featured-in-21-page-preview-for-world-of-warcraft-chronicle-volume-1
22:02.00Monet_2SYNCHRONICITY
22:02.06Monet_2CYNCHRONICIIIITTYYY
22:02.18OluapPlayerEh?
22:03.09ImpyDroidThat's the original troll capital
22:03.12ImpyDroidReed hur
22:03.21Monet_2I WANT THIS CHRONICLE!
22:03.40ImpyDroidMonet_2: http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-012jpg-c7496b.jpg So Azeroth looked like this
22:03.52Monet_2IU am genuinely nerdgasming right now!!!
22:06.49ImpyDroidMonet_2: http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-015jpg-c7496c_765w.jpg Cyrannian and you having an argument
22:09.37Monet_2Admittedly that does look rather cool
22:10.23ImpyDroidhttp://assets2.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-007jpg-0d80a6_765w.jpg Oooh Old Gods got some backstory
22:10.27Monet_2So accrding to IGN this compendium will be on sale for $40
22:10.28Monet_2WIN!
22:11.20Wormy_semi_spaceYou want order and disorder?  How about a little ordered disorder, and disorded order?  http://www.dana-mad.ru/gal/images/Maurits%20Cornelis%20Escher/Selected/m_c_escher_selected_order%20and%20chaos.jpg
22:12.44ImpyDroidMonet_2: http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-006jpg-19cefe_765w.jpg
22:19.18dromOh shit, my Brazilian grenadier managed to insta-kill a Muton with a receiver on an Overwatch
22:20.44TekDroidIs that bad?
22:21.04dromNo it is good
22:21.16dromBecause Mutons are bad menaces in XCOM 2
22:21.22dromWorse than XCOM
22:22.14ImpyDroidhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbjtzfYUEAEt4z-.jpg:large And the new orc leader is
22:24.43Monet_2Saurfang's a good choice.
22:25.25Wormy_semi_spaceMaybe he should brush his teeth.
22:26.10Monet_2Heh
22:37.25Monet_2ImpyDroid: I feel like streaming painting some WoW related artwork to celebrate this news.
22:37.36ImpyDroidCould do
22:38.44Monet_2Any suggestions?
22:39.18Monet_2http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=380570 is it me or do Varian's armor uget an upgrade?
22:40.36Monet_2Yeah it's definitely changed
22:40.45HachimanI wonder if it is too late to retcon Kezoreg's backstory
22:41.09HachimanLike, just write Lezia out of it entirely
22:41.13Monet_2What changes were you considering?
22:41.34HachimanAnd change the result of his ugliness from Xhodocto corruption to Tyraz' Descension in his blood
22:42.08Monet_2Who'd his mum be?
22:43.15HachimanSome concubine or something that Tyraz had a stand with
22:43.26DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:210592
22:43.30DrodoEmpireSomeone needs assistance
22:44.25HachimanI basically want to write the dum out of Kezoreg
22:44.58Monet_2Fair enough
22:48.07HachimanActually fuck it
22:48.13HachimanWould take too much retcon
22:48.25HachimanSo much I imagine people would be unwilling to do it
22:49.00Monet_2Does Lezia's involvement affect much other than the circumstances of his birth?
22:49.26HachimanIt does
22:49.44HachimanIt's part of the reason why he ends up living in the Collective with Maryah and why he gets so angsty about it
22:50.21HachimanAlong with the thing about Lezia's Xhodocto corruption affecting him pre-birth which has led nowhere in the entirety of fiction he has been written into
22:51.28Monet_2Maybe instead of Lezia, Tyraz's affiliation with the Xhodocto corrupted a comcubine?
22:52.21Monet_2<PROTECTED>
22:52.40HachimanIt's too late to do anything now
22:52.51HachimanI may as well just leave it and accept the fact I am stuck with a cancerfest
22:53.25Monet_2I think its still salvageable
22:53.38Monet_2We just have to work out where we can bend the canon.
22:53.39HachimanIt would take too much work
22:54.13Monet_2Think of it as a creative challenge ot overcome.
22:54.22HachimanIt's too much of a change
22:54.37HachimanIt would take a lot of rewriting stuff with a lot of people which no one has time for
22:55.10Monet_2Compartmentalise.
22:55.18HachimanOnce I am done with the Zazane stuff I have planned I will be honest-to-God ecstatic that I will get to work on something different
22:55.28HachimanI have had enough of the Zazane
22:57.04Xhokill dem all
22:57.09Monet_2Take deep breaths, relax.
22:57.11Xhogive in to ur hatred
22:57.29XhoMonet and I seem to now be playing the role of the angel and devil on Hachi's shoulders
22:58.20Monet_2Work out what needs changing, break it down into chunks. For instance you say that a lot of people will need ot be involved i nthe rewrite. Who will need ot be contacted?
22:58.28Monet_2How many peopel is "a lot"
22:58.30ImpyDroidI understand Hachi
22:58.41ImpyDroidOur old fiction tends to be the most flawed
22:58.48ImpyDroidYou should work on other stuff definitely
22:59.07ImpyDroidNeed I remind you, however, that you already tried to get rid of the Zazane two times
22:59.33HachimanI will succeed a third
23:00.19ImpyDroidHachiman: Whoever gave birth to Kezoreg, she is probably an electrocuted corpse buried beneath the Ecclesial Palace of Spode by now
23:00.34HachimanIsn't Lezia canonically dead already hur
23:00.44Monet_2No idea
23:00.49Monet_2She's like Kenny.
23:00.59HachimanPeople like Kenny
23:01.04HachimanNobody likes Lezia
23:01.21ImpyDroidI like Lezia ●~●
23:01.22Monet_2Popularity aside I mean
23:01.39ImpyDroidShe is a remnant of the old Spore Wiki when things were simpler and funnier
23:01.49dromMonet_2: Here is the roster http://i.imgur.com/ExGaDxy.jpg
23:01.50HachimanImpyDroid: Shit taste 0/10 waifu Iovera is better
23:02.01XhoCould've written her death into the Asgord Genocide
23:02.10dromPick the one you want to go, but don't forget the list here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/X-COM_2_Initiative
23:02.13ImpyDroidAllow me to cherish the memory of us roleplaying Iovera and Tyraz's foreplay
23:02.23ImpyDroidAh these were the days
23:02.25XhoYOU CAN'T CHERISH THAT
23:02.28XhoTHAT'S NOT RIGHT
23:02.30XhoTHAT'S NOT RIGHT AT ALL
23:02.38ImpyDroidIT WAS HACHI'S IDEA
23:02.42HachimanFuck off cunt
23:02.47ImpyDroidHE STARTED THE RP
23:02.47XhoI DO NOT WANT TO VISUALISE ALIEN DRAGON ON ALIEN RAT ACTION THANKS
23:02.54ImpyDroidI HAD TO PLAY ALONG
23:02.54dromSexwiki
23:03.07TechnobliteratorThere was definitely a time when people liked Lezia
23:03.07Technobliteratorbut the Kraw are completely inactive now
23:03.07Technobliteratorso the Loron are the only comic relief species again
23:03.15dromYour most important source of Sporewiki sex
23:03.21XhoI never really liked Lezia that much
23:03.29Xhodats y angazhar break her mentally
23:03.33Xho10/10 best xhodocto
23:03.38HachimanI would say Hachi is partially comic relief
23:03.42dromMonet_2: Basically, the first four are taken
23:03.43HachimanHachi is not a species however
23:03.45Monet_2Technobliterator: Suddenly I feel bad for making the Kraw srs.
23:04.02ImpyDroidAllow me also to cherish the memory of Angazhar pretending to be a schoolboy going to the same school as Kezoreg
23:04.14HachimanStop cherishing shit-tier memories
23:04.22XhoThat was funny though, Angazhar was possessing children
23:04.25ImpyDroidNever
23:04.36HalopediamanWhat abhorrent activites are you people up to in here? <_<
23:04.45ImpyDroidYou guys are awfully ashamed of our horrible past
23:04.48dromSex, sex, sex
23:04.52dromIt is all about sex
23:04.55Monet_2drom: I'm drawn to Luca 'Ace' de Luca.
23:04.58XhoHalopediaman: You've been on this IRC for how long and you've just asked that question
23:05.00ImpyDroidIt is hilarious, not funny
23:05.07dromMonet_2: Monet de Monet
23:05.07ImpyDroidnot horrible even
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23:05.22HachimanIf I was allowed to erase those memories at the cost of removing one of my vital organs or limbs with a shotgun, I would
23:05.34ImpyDroidAre you fucking serious
23:05.40ImpyDroidThat was hilarious as fuck
23:05.46dromAnyone else wanna sign up for as a soldier on my XCOM2 game?
23:05.51ImpyDroidWe were teenagers back then
23:05.55ImpyDroidDo not forget that
23:06.01HachimanYes and a cringefest
23:06.06HachimanWe are adults now
23:06.15Monet_2drom: If I die, I'm going to haunt you.
23:06.26dromGood
23:06.26HalopediamanWhat can I say Xho, until two days ago I just glossed over the wierd stuff.
23:06.28ImpyDroidAnd an important part of being an adult is to accept one's childgood
23:06.32ImpyDroidchildhood
23:06.40HachimanI accepted it and now I want to get rid of it
23:06.42ImpyDroidAnd let go of the past
23:06.44Monet_2Hachiman: What do we get out of pretending that immaturity never happened?
23:06.48ImpyDroidWhy would you
23:06.56ImpyDroidThis was funny
23:07.06ImpyDroidVery funny too
23:07.07Xhoexplosion in 3 2 1
23:07.16HachimanThat we no longer remember that the immaturity happened and we can fool ourselves into believing we have always been about serious business, that's what
23:07.19Monet_2It was fun and we learned from this immaturity.
23:07.40ImpyDroidHachiman: But we are not a serious business
23:07.48TechnobliteratorThat might be comforting, but it's not healthy
23:07.52ImpyDroidWe are not professional writers, we do not get money from our stuff
23:07.54dromAaaand, list updated! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/X-COM_2_Initiative
23:08.04ImpyDroidSo we should not pretend we are adults when we still are not
23:08.35Monet_2Techno's right. Pretending we have no inner child is unhealthy.
23:08.38ImpyDroidThere were actually shameful moments, but that is not one of them
23:08.56Technobliteratorof course, there are people who do earn money from our sutff
23:09.19XhoRemoving your inner child basically turns you into me
23:09.19Monet_2If you want to be 100% mature and serious as you say then why watch South Park?
23:09.43dromMonet_2 Hachiman: Monet's guy's biography here: http://i.imgur.com/o3WvDX5.jpg
23:09.46XhoConsistently contemplating existential dread and glazing over at a computer monitor for escapist nonsense
23:09.58ImpyDroidSeriously though I have had many shameful events in my childhood
23:09.59dromAnd my character's biography here: http://i.imgur.com/SroMudZ.jpg
23:10.03ImpyDroidBut this is not one of tuem
23:10.16HachimanI did not say I wanted to be 100% mature and serious, I just want the cringefest that was our youth on Sporewiki removed so I do not have to subject my memories to them
23:10.17Monet_2drom: SO I'm a pre-war vet
23:10.27Monet_2Cool
23:10.28TechnobliteratorI support removing IRC logs :p
23:10.34dromNO
23:10.41dromslaps Technobliterator
23:10.53HachimanI agree
23:10.55XhoI don't like the IRC logs
23:10.55dromHISTORY IS IMPORTANT
23:10.57ImpyDroidHachiman: Without this cringefest there would never have been this wiki
23:11.02TechnobliteratorI strongly support the removal of those :p
23:11.06ImpyDroidBesides
23:11.09ImpyDroidWe were 14
23:11.10XhoIt can open up a can of worms that's for sure
23:11.14ImpyDroidSome were even 12
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23:11.21ImpyDroidIt was perfectly normal for us to be silly
23:11.25TechnobliteratorI was 12!
23:11.31TechnobliteratorI think
23:11.41Monet_2drom: Though it's a little wierd that apparently my character is apparently a veteren depsite being seven when the aliens invaded.
23:11.44ImpyDroidI was 13 when I first came to the wiki I think
23:11.50Monet_2A ranking officer ate age 7.
23:12.07ImpyDroidMonet_2: Child soldiers
23:12.09Monet_2Damn XCOM must have been desperate lol
23:12.16dromMonet_2: You are officially XCOM's <young officer from Star Trek>
23:12.17ImpyDroidAnd so were you
23:12.35ImpyDroidThis was a great time and there is no reason to feel sham
23:12.38ImpyDroidshame
23:12.47TechnobliteratorI remember when Imp joined the wiki, he seemed fairly mature despite occasional stupid comments
23:12.56Technobliteratorthen suddenly he joined IRC and regressed to being immature
23:13.04Technobliteratorand I found it odd
23:13.23ImpyDroidI am mature in general conversation and immature in personal conversation
23:13.30ImpyDroidI am also unstable
23:13.36ImpyDroidWhich is still true now
23:13.48Monet_2If we pretend what we were in the past never was how can we be mindful of who we ar enow?
23:14.04ImpyDroidIt was not so much regression as it was me showing my different side
23:14.22Monet_2How can we be mindful of what we could become if we shut away what we were?
23:14.27ImpyDroidMonet_2: Admittedly, you were not there during ye plde days
23:14.32ImpyDroidolde days
23:14.42dromImpyDroid: Ayy! I found my soulmate!
23:14.46ImpyDroidThen there was the time when we made everyone ascended
23:14.54ImpyDroidLiterally
23:15.06ImpyDroidEvery race had demigods fighting for them
23:15.11Technobliteratoroh yes
23:15.15Monet_2ImpyDroid: I'm pretty sure i've had my stupid/immature moments though
23:15.17Technobliteratorthose powercreep days
23:15.40Technobliteratorthose were pretty awful
23:16.34Monet_2And we learned that there's mroe to ascension than throwing around reality-warping magic...right?
23:17.08Monet_2O rwas that later?
23:17.08HalopediamanNonsense
23:17.23ImpyDroidMonet_2: That was during the late War of Ages
23:17.38ImpyDroidEveryone brought their gods
23:17.59HalopediamanHow aptly named for the context of this conversation.
23:18.19ImpyDroidI had ascended golden Radeon, Cyrannian brought the Thirteenth Tribe that blessed people left and right
23:18.34TechnobliteratorI had the Taldar, and I still do 8D
23:18.40ImpyDroid^ That
23:18.46ImpyDroidThere was also Falco
23:18.56HachimanDon't diss Falco
23:19.04Technobliteratorhe was a legend
23:19.07ImpyDroidFalco was the guy with a race of pyromaniacs
23:19.15ImpyDroidLike literally they worshipped fire
23:19.17ImpyDroidThe Flame
23:19.31ImpyDroidSo he had flame-ascended guys
23:19.35ImpyDroidBY FIRE BE PURGED
23:20.07ImpyDroidHachiman I believe first brought Tyraz's descension at this point
23:20.19ImpyDroidWormy had Tricarrion and Bo Ramik
23:20.31ImpyDroidEverybody was godrace fighting
23:20.47TechnobliteratorWormy never had any gods, he was one of the users, along with Random and Ghelae, who was opposed to the idea of having godraces at all
23:21.43MonetLately I've wondered if VOlakrus is old hat.
23:21.53XhoAnd then I fucked everyone over, at least twice
23:22.00MonetAs my main-focus antagonist
23:24.10MonetAnyway. What we're all feeling is perfectly natural
23:24.23ImpyDroidOh one more guy
23:24.32ImpyDroidKKIA'SIHM
23:24.43ImpyDroidHe was among the first to start the ascended craze
23:24.49ImpyDroidMushroom that is
23:24.50MonetIt's early-instalment wierdness. We were not sure of our project, we were all still inexperienced, a bit young.
23:25.31MonetNot sure what we wanted our universe to be. So it ended up peculiar compared to the coherent universe we have now.
23:27.06ImpyDroidI have always thought our universe was a bit weird
23:27.14ImpyDroidBut I accept it as it is
23:27.51MonetBy the sounds of it, it used to be wierder
23:28.17ImpyDroidI'd say it started off more or less tsme
23:28.28ImpyDroidThen escalated into craziness
23:28.31Monet<PROTECTED>
23:28.43ImpyDroidThen calmed down
23:28.51ImpyDroidMonet: Mushroom is Mushroom
23:29.48Monet<PROTECTED>
23:30.52ImpyDroidUh-uh
23:31.04ImpyDroidUh-huh even
23:35.27ImpyDroidWell his fic was always a bit more OP than the others
23:36.45ImpyDroidAnyway gys
23:36.50ImpyDroidThat being said though imagine if we ever wrote a story set in the Fictionverse, but in the time and place that is more grounded
23:36.54ImpyDroidIn reality that is
23:37.14ImpyDroidBut is tied somehow into the world of today
23:37.23DrodoEmpireThat'd be interesting
23:37.25HalopediamanBah, looks like I won't be finishing my writeup tonight DrodoEmpire
23:37.32DrodoEmpireAh, okay
23:37.38ImpyDroidLike perhaps a fic set on 22nd century Earth
23:38.20MonetWhat sort of thing do you have in mind?
23:38.24Monetfor this setting
23:38.39Xho....like the Civ universe idea that we keep trying to float
23:39.58HalopediamanActually, speaking of setting, is there a generally held "present" year in the Milky Way?
23:40.07XhoYeah
23:40.18XhoSomewhere between 2811 - 2813 at the moment
23:40.21XhoDepending on who you ask
23:40.22DrodoEmpireHalopediaman: There's a clock you can download, but 2811-2813
23:40.30ImpyDroidMonet: Something like rebuilding the old Earth from the nuclear apocalypse
23:40.36HalopediamanNeat, thanks
23:44.10HalopediamanI also don't suppose anyone knows the relatively backwater sections of the Milky Way, assuming there are any? Or maybe there is an abundance. It's hard to tell, lots of information to sift through. I want to avoid stepping on toes as it were.
23:47.25MonetThe Milky Way isn't Star Wars
23:47.51MonetThere's no "third galaxy" thing.
23:50.06HalopediamanI'm not familiar with that term.
23:50.12ImpyDroidACTUALLT
23:50.30ImpyDroidWhat about making a story about the first human interstellar flight
23:50.51MonetHalopedia: Basically how rich/well-developed your planet or civ is isn't dependant on how lcose to the core of the galaxy you are
23:51.23MonetAlways bugged me that the outer rim of the Star Wars Galaxy was basically like the Third World.
23:53.07ImpyDroidGuys?
23:53.39HalopediamanOh, no, that's not what I meant. I noticed the galactic arms were broken into sectors and I was wondering if there were areas where people's work wasn't as dense that I could more easily justify my empire having little outside influence in its formative period.
23:56.58TechnobliteratorIt's like that in Cyrannus, however
23:58.53MonetCyrannus does take a fair bit of inspiration from Star Wars though.

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