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01:21.37DrodoEmpirehayy lmao
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01:41.54OfficerJackal_!*
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10:07.55GhelaeHello.
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11:30.29ImpyDroidCyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/H5UYXHj.png Do you have any idea what that comic is about?
11:43.41Wormy_Perhaps its a reference to the different teaching styles.
11:53.11Wormy_morbid http://imgur.com/gallery/KlcDz
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12:19.39Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/CXbLYzy
12:20.45Wormy_Poison garden http://imgur.com/gallery/hM7eC
12:22.17Technobliteratoroh, hi Oluap
12:23.01Wormy_Duchess of Northumberland http://imgur.com/aXeGMUW
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12:31.43HachimanHello
12:32.23Wormy_There is no way the Duchess of Northumberland would be interested in a pauper like me
12:33.20CyrannianImpyDroid: there are 26 counties in the Republic of Ireland and 6 in Northern Ireland, so adding them up together is a United Ireland
12:33.33Wormy_Hachiman:  She has a poison garden http://imgur.com/aXeGMUW
12:33.49ImpyDroidAh
12:35.11HachimanWormy_: Did you know that potatos, tomatos, eggplants, chili and bell peppers, wolfberries, and deadly nightshade are all members of the same family - Solanaceae
12:35.23Wormy_Yes, I did kknow
12:35.32HachimanI found out the other day and had a meltdown
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12:35.46MonetHello
12:35.50HachimanHello
12:36.00Wormy_It is why potatoes contain cynaides
12:36.10Wormy_And why potato fruits are poisonous
12:36.15HachimanI never would have thought my darling potatos shared the same family as deadly nightshade
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12:37.45HachimanJesus
12:38.19Wormy_Wouldn't want to cross her though
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12:38.51ImpyDroidhi
12:38.58MonetDon't appleseeds cotain small amounts of cyanide?
12:39.31Wormy_it does
12:39.58MonetIts an interesting chemical in terms of how nature uses it
12:40.10HachimanI will consider this
12:41.31MonetIn enough amounts it kills sure but at the right level it can make the foodstuff taste foul enough to drive off potential consumers
12:42.30MonetBut as has might have been seen humans have a tendency to take plant defence mechanisms and use them for *flavour*
12:43.17HachimanHumans OP
12:43.22Wormy_I enjoy the heat of chillis.
12:43.39Wormy_The thing is, humans can digest a lot more than a lot of creatures
12:44.58MonetActually I recall there was a suggestion on the radio and in Scientific American recently that certain amounts of the right toxins (like spices) can improve long-term health.
12:45.12Wormy_http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Poison-Diaries-Duchess-Northumberland/dp/1862057311
12:45.20Wormy_metal book
12:46.07HachimanThe Duchess of Northumberland is a real life Poison Ivy it would appear
12:46.12Wormy_I love how it features opium and weed as references
12:47.58Wormy_apparently there is no sweet ending, the poisonous plants do their thing.
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13:39.43Wormy_awayHachiman:  "The concentration of glycoalkaloid in wild potatoes suffices to produce toxic effects in humans. Glycoalkaloids may cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps, and in severe cases coma and death; "
13:41.23Wormy_awayI wonder how hunter gatherers "tested" new foods when they entered new lands.  I reckon they selected the outcasts for the job
13:46.12MonetIsn't there a trick to testing?
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13:48.36Wormy_awayOh yes, like rubbing it on the skin
13:48.55Wormy_awayOr something
13:49.04RobotickingTheres always intresting conversations that go on whenpeople enter IRC arent there
13:49.08Wormy_awaynot that may always work
13:49.34Wormy_awayMost of us just stay logged in
13:50.37Robotickingah
13:50.41MonetI thought there was a trick involving chewing but spitting out
13:50.49Robotickingwhat were you talking about before I logged on?
13:50.54Hachi_AwayGoing shopping bbs
13:55.58MonetHow potatoes actually contain trace amounts of cyanide.
13:56.12Wormy_awayHe didn't heed my advise hur
14:22.33Wormy_awayHAH HAH
14:22.58Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
14:32.01Wormy_awayAmbient space music, nice to work or write fiction with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TpoJI60NWA
14:51.05TekDroidI wrote a whole space game last year with an FTL track on loop. The ambient music thing works. :P
14:54.54Wormy_awayLove writing short sci-fi stories with ambient music.  I might start doing that soon
14:55.20MonetThere is something about the right music's ability to stir ideas
14:55.56Wormy_awayYeah, with collaborative war stories, I listen to soundtrack
14:56.01Wormy_away*movie
14:56.19Wormy_awayOr maybe rock
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15:00.13Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/user/SpaceAmbient
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15:07.49MonetI'm looking at Chinese history and I'm realising that the way I have written the change in paragon families might be unrealistic.
15:09.05MonetThe two Paragon lines before Ultanos ended because they ran our of heirs.
15:09.22MonetBut we all know how erm...promiscuous Draocnis can be.
15:10.59Robotickingah
15:11.30RobotickingYour thinking of some...illegitimate children from those lines?
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15:13.09MonetRoboticking: Draconis consider lying with your sister- or cousin-in-law was okay.
15:13.12Monetas okay*
15:13.21RobotickingGood to know...
15:13.26MonetBut lying with blood relatives is where they draw the line.
15:13.39RobotickingAlright
15:13.50RobotickingYou could use this for a story line?
15:14.21MonetI might rework the paragon dynasties
15:14.38MonetMaybe add a few more.
15:15.21Robotickingah
15:15.35MonetI had owndered about an idea where the electoral committe that chooses the lines may also have a say on whether or not a dynasty is considered unfit to rule.
15:17.12MonetThough I guess in that rgard there would need to be some way of regulating that power.
15:17.55MonetYou'd effectively have this secret council who declares who is and who isn't fit to rule the Imperium
15:18.01Robotickingah
15:18.10Robotickingbut thats alot of power
15:18.21MonetThere is another possibility
15:18.23Robotickingin the hand of the council
15:18.30MonetDraconis have three names.
15:18.56MonetA presonal one, a bloodline one and a family one
15:20.19MonetThe family name could be be determined by the politically dominant bloodline within a family.
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15:25.29Robotickingalright
15:26.56dromHello
15:27.06MonetSo a paragon line could change based on how influential the primary bloodline is
15:27.23MonetWHich I guess is based on the Patriarch.
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15:27.40HachimanhOI!!!
15:28.09dromMonet: So I attempted to do the "Soda War" something mission in EVE:O
15:28.22dromOnly to be banged by 3 hostile Rookie ships
15:28.37MonetPvP?
15:32.31dromPvE
15:32.44dromI needed some money anyway
15:33.10MonetMy advice is rookie ships aren't great for shooting other ships
15:33.42dromYeah. Though I managed through the "Corporate Records" mission single-handed
15:34.28dromYou encounter 6 hostile NPC ships and a hostile NPC flying a rookie in that mission.
15:34.28MonetOKay...
15:34.54dromThey all will come at once
15:35.34MonetA while ago I realised had only given a passing mention to Uriel's mother. Except now I realise I haven't given his moher any name at all.
15:36.02Robotickingthat isnt good
15:36.20HachimanI always ensure to give my characters' parents names
15:37.46dromMonet Wormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/KdRRU4X.jpg
15:38.38MonetYeah I think when I first started I stuck to referring to the family name.
15:40.02MonetCOnsidering what almost happened in Golden Movement I think that paragon lines being overthrown by the praetors is quite possible.
15:41.38dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/VPj0Nxx.webm
15:42.03RobotickingYou guys like foxes dont you
15:42.48HachimanYou cannot - or rather, should not - fuck a fox, so no, I am not fond of them
15:44.40RobotickingYou like to mate with anything you see don't you Hachi
15:45.18dromHachiman Monet Wormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/BTBSauk.webm
15:46.12HachimanOh God
15:46.35Robotickingis that video clip on youtube
15:46.44dromYep
15:47.18MonetThe world's most inappropriate house party.
15:48.20dromI don't know what the guy in funky clothes should represent, but in the comments, someone hinted me that it is a british pedophile
15:48.51MonetThat's Jimmy Saville
15:50.33MonetWho until word came out of sexually abusing children had a very famous career as a somewhat creepy man personally making chldrens' wishes come true.
15:51.02dromI see.
15:53.00RobotickingI cannot find that clip Monet
15:54.34dromRoboticking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5TgvvOYdA
15:54.44Robotickingthanks
15:56.37RobotickingThanks
15:56.40Roboticking...
15:56.47Robotickingwhy did i repeat...nevermind
15:57.57dromMonet: Anyway, speaking of EVE:O. What's the best way to get started on the path to industralist?
16:00.10Monetdrom: I'd say find something relatively cheap to manufacture and look for a blueprint for it
16:00.11dromRoboticking: Regarding your question about foxes. I like them.
16:00.21RobotickingGood to know
16:01.39dromMonet: I see. Got an idea what it would be?
16:02.06MonetI tried breaking into the manufacturing market by making ammo.
16:02.29dromHow well did it go then?
16:02.35MonetUnit-by-unit ammo doesn't make much but the materials costs are relatively low and easy to acquire.
16:02.37dromCurrently I'm just doing mining.
16:04.08MonetDepending what you mine (check blueprints), you could easily make ammo though every unit of raw material you mine.
16:07.03dromAlright, mining business in general?
16:07.46MonetMining may be slow but its a reliable start if you have nothing.
16:09.54MonetBut while you can certainly make money as an industrialist, keep an eye on your material costs.
16:11.23dromAfter some searching, veldspar seems to be a good mineral to mine and sell
16:12.04MonetEveryone wants veldspar.
16:12.36HachimanSo apparently, Naval Air Facility Atsugi in the Kanagawa Prefecture of Japan is thought to be the most haunted naval facility in the world and is home to ghosts both of ancient and contemporary times; one notable ghost is that of an unknown Samurai warrior, who is said to assault people in the base at night via slapping them and disappearing
16:13.19HachimanSo much for a terrifying ghost encounter when all it does is effectively pull a prank on you
16:13.39Monetdrom One thing I like about refining ores into crystals and minerals is that the minerals have much less mass and are easier to transport.
16:13.52dromMonet: mhm yeah
16:14.04dromI'm going to need a bigger ship
16:14.44MonetInduistrials
16:14.59MonetThey're purpose-built for hauling large amounts of stuff
16:17.43dromSo, Orcas?
16:18.32MonetOrcas have ore compressors I think
16:18.41MonetWhat faction did you choose?
16:19.34dromCaldari
16:20.32MonetI'm talking Badgers and Teyras
16:20.33dromOrca is an ORE ship, so you can get it regardless the faction you belong to
16:20.39dromI see.
16:21.06MonetI asked for what faction so I could direct you to the industrial you could most easily get.
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16:23.32MonetAfternoon.
16:23.43XhoSQUAAAAAAAAAAK
16:23.43Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/qt9IGi0
16:23.59dromEvening
16:24.03Wormy_awayhi
16:24.28dromMonet: Fair enough
16:24.41dromI'll see how much I keep this going on
16:25.11Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/RLATJZG
16:25.15Wormy_awaycheckthat out
16:25.45OluapPlayerhi
16:26.21Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/e5Jb2p9
16:27.25Xho"When your connection is so slow the world doesn't load fast enough to catch your fall."
16:28.30Xho"The wreckage of a plane 'full of skeletons' has been found in the jungle and it's said to have the Malaysian flag on it. Could this really be Flight MH370?"                               "How could a skeleton fly a plane???"
16:32.11XhoAnd there's a discussion on whether it's MH370 because of the fact there's skeletons in there and not decomposing bodies
16:32.30XhoI'd imagine 18 months in a jungle would easily accelerate it
16:33.22dromMonet: I noticed that skills have a (nx) modifer after their name
16:33.27dromWhat's that for?
16:33.34MonetDo they know the plane model?
16:34.52XhoDunno
16:35.05Monetdrom: Trying to think but I think some skills take longer to train than others.
16:36.52MonetXho: I'm a little duvious myself.
16:37.43MonetThe palne crashed in the indian ocean and this woman found the wreckage withi nthe jungle of an island, with bodies, in the middle of the East Indes archipeligo.
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16:40.08Monet"So a police commissioner in Borneo says some bloke in the Philippines reports that his aunt reckons she's found a wrecked aircraft, which has seemingly crashed into thick jungle without cutting a highly-visible swathe through the tree tops (so at a pretty steep angle of descent) but which is sufficiently intact that the pilot is still sitting in his seat."
16:40.11Hachiman"The wreckage of a plane 'full of skeletons' has been found in the jungle and it's said to have the Malaysian flag on it. Could this really be Flight MH370?" "How could a skeleton fly a plane???"
16:40.21MonetFound that comment and...I think he has a bit of a point.
16:40.27XhoHachiman: I just posted that u dunce
16:41.03HachimanAnd there's a discussion on whether it's MH370 because of the fact there's skeletons in there and not decomposing bodies
16:41.20HachimanI'd imagine 18 months in a jungle would easily accelerate it
16:41.27Xhocan u fukin not
16:41.29OfficerJackalWell to be fair, in warm, humid enviroments it only takes like a day or two for someone to start decomposing. Yeah.
16:41.35MonetIf this plane has been sitting in the jungle for only a year and a half why is it she found it via a jungle trail and not say a suspiciously straight path though the treeline.
16:41.41OfficerJackalI'd reckon there would be skeletons after a few weeks or a month.
16:42.01OfficerJackalAnd of course, that's not factoring in the wildlife scavaging the corpses.
16:42.18XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11150786_965217926854685_6585818761341112175_n.jpg?oh=6272d948d37d1cf65f4d50329315367e&oe=56982C4C
16:42.29Hachimanhur
16:42.34Hachimandat nostalgia
16:44.06XhoOluapPlayer: Just saw your updates on the Eschaton section
16:44.08XhoI lel'd
16:44.27OluapPlayerYeah we gotta talk about that
16:44.36MonetFor me it doesn't add up because the jungle flora sounds too dense to be a crash that didn't result i nthe obliteration of the cabin.
16:45.08OluapPlayerIf you're gonna have your characters solve all the problems then you may as well write the story by yourself
16:45.29MonetThe thing that would mail if it is the Malaysian flight, for me, is if they can confirm what make this mystery plane is.
16:45.51MonetIf it's a DC-3 then yeah its not MH370.
16:45.55OfficerJackalWell, you said there was no swaths of forest taken out, so yeah it must have gone in a very steep angle. The cockpit and the cabin should have extreme damage if not outright estroyed, yeah.
16:46.05XhoI'll change it around then
16:46.36OfficerJackalSince, going in at those speeds, it's simply not possible for things like the pilot still sitting in his seat.
16:46.43OfficerJackalIt would have pancaked, and exploded in a fireball.
16:47.03MonetIt definitely sounds like a shallow landing
16:48.20MonetBut an 18-month old flight would ahve left a scar.
16:48.20MonetSo I estimate this plane has been i nthe jungle for...maybe at least 10 years?
16:48.24MonetWho knows it could date fro mthe Second World War - it happens.
16:49.01MonetNo wait my mistake
16:49.28dromMonet: Look at the Tech 2 variations of the two industrial ships you pointed me to, I guess Crane is a good choice?
16:50.06Monetdrom: T3 industrials sacrifice cargo space for armour and speed.
16:50.13MonetT2 sorry
16:50.35dromSounds ideal when you have to do runs in nullsec systems
16:50.38OfficerJackalMonet: Yeah... I'd say it's just some older wreckage that, like you said, went in and crashed shallow. Probably some backwater regional airline nobody cared about that crashed awhile ago.
16:50.53XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman: https://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 updated
16:50.55OfficerJackalLike, regional regional.
16:51.27MonetMore likely property of the Malaysian Air Force.
16:51.36OfficerJackalOr that too, yeah.
16:51.39OfficerJackalActually more likely.
16:51.47dromMonet: Crane has more capacity than Badger, but less structure points
16:51.54MonetIt had the Malaysian flag on it.
16:52.11Monetdrom: Check armour points.
16:52.19OfficerJackalOhhhh, alright then yeah, it is more likely a malaysian air force aircraft.
16:53.18Monet'She also found a Malaysian flag measuring 70 inches long and 35 inches wide.'
16:53.22dromMonet: Crane also has more points
16:54.03Monetdrom: Put a Crane on your wish list.
16:54.06MonetThey require Industiral 5 to fly.
16:54.12dromMonet: About 300% the capacitor capacity and stronger shields
16:55.47MonetOKay I've also realises something else off about this claim
16:55.54MonetThe plain was flying from Kuarlar Lumpar to Beijing
16:55.58dromMonet: Going for a Tayra first though, since it favors cargo hold and max speed, where Badger only provides max speed and inherita
16:56.52dromCrane is inherently a Tayra, but pimped and stronger
16:57.57MonetAccording to this claim, the reackage was found ~1500km east and ~300km North of Kuarlar Lumpar and some 2800km+ from the plane's last known location
17:02.11MonetIf both the last radar sighting and wreckage are true the plane flew northwest then after it dissapeared off the radar flew south-east-east over the Gulf of Thailand, possibly part of Indonesia and crashed on the island.
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17:05.37MonetWhatever this woman found it definitely sounds like some kind of Malaysian military aircraft that was for some reason flying over Indonesia.
17:06.11MonetNot Indonesia sorry, too broad
17:06.28MonetThe Phillipines
17:10.07dromMonet: For whether a strange reason, the Minatar ships are sold assembled and ready-to-fly for 3-4 million ISK
17:10.25dromAdd 300 000 ISK for the required book to play that ship.
17:10.40dromAs opposed to the blueprints that cost like billion ISK each
17:10.47dromfor the Caldari industrials
17:11.45Monetdrom: Those blueprints are not one-use
17:12.10dromI see
17:12.19MonetOriginal blueprints (the more expensive version) can be used indefinitely while blueprint copies have a set number of uses.
17:14.22dromHow can you see if that blueprint is not a copy?
17:15.05MonetI think it says if you look on the object's information.
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17:15.11dromTayras are expensiver than Badgers what the hell
17:15.13GhelaeHello.
17:15.34Monethi
17:17.18dromI think I should only sell the minerals straight into the market so people can reprocess them by themselves
17:18.39MonetWith the right skills and level of reprocessing efficiency the constituent minerals can be worth more than the ore.
17:21.09Wormy_awaydrom:  Unproccessed ore and unmodified minerals are barely worth anything outside hobbyists.  It takes a lot of money to mine minerals, let alone process them
17:24.08Wormy_awayIf a mineral is scarce, it may be worth it to extract huge amounts of rock that were previously not economical.  But I imagine space mining would mean that less and less would be mined from planets.  So extremely rich sources on asteroids might be more sellable.  I imagine selling whole asteroid is therefore more worthwile
17:24.28Wormy_awayWhole asteroid fields
17:26.58Wormy_awayOh wait, not talking about fiction are you?  Whether that works in EVE, well, hopefully I past on something usefu;
17:27.12Wormy_away*passed
17:27.20Wormy_awayBe an asteroid baron
17:27.35dromI'm on about EVE:O
17:27.37Monetdrom: Tayras used to go undre the name of "Badger mk II"
17:28.15MonetBut Wormy is sort of on to something
17:29.04MonetVeldspar yields only tritanium which has an average price of about 3.1 ISK per unit.
17:29.42Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12144841_1820317187991332_1751924232490580238_n.png?oh=5a1527919d79d50f4920262a12ee085f&oe=56CDFC86
17:29.43MonetBoth are the most common ore and mineral for mining so its quite undersandale why the price is so low.
17:30.03MonetHachiman: I love Karl.
17:30.11HachimanKarl Pilkington is like my spirit animal
17:30.12dromMonet: Yeah, except the Veldspar is currently 17,80 ISK per m3
17:30.25Wormy_awayImportantly, can you conquer or procure entire asteroids and so on?
17:30.57dromCorrection: 15.80 ISK
17:31.07Wormy_awayI believe Space Engineers does (I'm getting it when its next on sale!)
17:31.28Monetdrom: Tritanium weighs 0.01 m3 iirc
17:31.30HachimanWormy_away: I believe you can procure and mine asteroids in EVE
17:31.52Wormy_awayawesome
17:32.13Wormy_awayI could play EVE but I dare not while I'm studying lol
17:32.24MonetYou can't conquer asteroids, they're really only useful for cutting open for minerals.
17:33.00MonetBut single players can build interplanetary networks.
17:33.32dromAnd conquer the market
17:34.34dromLet me to state that selling the ores straight into the market is more profitable for me, since the reprocessing is less profitable despite the 50% base
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17:36.19MonetIts cool. You should make your mark your way.
17:36.49Wormy_awayIn real life, an assessment of the economical value of an orebody must be made, so that mining and processing will actually be worth it against the cost. I don't know whether EVE simulates that
17:36.53MonetI suppose that's what I like a little about the game; it and most of the community treat you like an adult.
17:36.53MonetMostly
17:37.18Wormy_awaybut there areoften mistakes
17:37.38MonetWormy_away: Ore assessment does happen in the game
17:37.48dromSeems like the demand of ores are bigger than minerals
17:38.08dromAnd they are willing to pay it more than minerals
17:38.22Wormy_awayThat's no surprise really, not very often do you elements in their native forms
17:38.53Wormy_awayIts great if you ore body supports a range of minerals that can be processed from it
17:39.02MonetThere are discussions on what's the best type of ore to mine and you can get a starship module that allows you to see how much ore is in a given asteroid.
17:39.29Wormy_awayMaybe you are right, sellling entire ores (maybe even at asteroid levels) is profitable in space.  Although in RL it is harder to seperate
17:39.57MonetWormy_away: "Its great if you ore body supports a range of minerals that can be processed from it" all other ores do that.
17:41.07dromMany suggest that Veldar is a very reliable and safe mineral to mine
17:41.12dromore*
17:42.40dromWormy_away: I get what you are trying to say about selling ores directly into the market. It depends really
17:42.40MonetI've made money processing an ore called "pyroxeres" which contains minerals one of which while only present in trace amounts can be worth around 500 ISK a unit.
17:43.53MonetVeldspar is reliable and safe because tritanium is used in making literally everything.
17:44.20Wormy_awaybrb dinner
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17:45.07HachimanFuck
17:45.18dromMonet: Yeah, imagine the ethernity of filling a badger full of ore with a civilian miner
17:45.42MonetI will confess
17:45.46MonetI have done that
17:45.55MonetAnd I regret it.
17:46.06dromIt took you hours, right?
17:46.25MonetOh yes
17:46.50dromOn the serious side though, which rate would be optimial for a badger?
17:47.17MonetDon't mine with a badger.
17:48.17MonetDon't use an industrial because 1) you will be bored out of your mind and 2) frigates, while having smaller hulls, can be fitted with two maybe 3 turrets
17:48.57dromventures then
17:50.34dromAnyway, I could perhaps mine my way up to a badger and try some industrial business from there?
17:51.09MonetYeah.
17:51.18MonetIndustrials are trucks basically.
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17:51.48dromRite, what's the best way off industrial business then?
17:51.50XhoPOTS
17:52.02dromстоп
17:52.40dromI dislike putting my life on dependence of market shares and graphs
17:52.47MonetYou want to manufacture industrials?
17:53.35MonetI think that's what puts a lot of people off EVE: Its a capitalism simulator.
17:53.37dromThat sounds a bit too crazy
17:54.18MonetTHe alternative is become a mercenary and either join a merc coproration or do missions for NPC corporations
17:54.37dromHuhuh, sounds more like an Orca is better for me then.
17:56.14dromdemn prices though
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17:57.05OluapPlayerFucking goddamn everything ever
17:57.17MonetYeah Orcas are popular among corporate mining operations.
17:57.31dromdemn price tags on them though
17:57.37drom700 000 000 ISK each
17:58.27dromYou could do transporting though
17:58.39dromlooks on freighters
17:58.49Monetlol
17:59.06MonetYeahno I don't have that kind of money.
17:59.56dromDamn, Amarr's only freighter looks pretty hot
18:00.28MonetAlso freighters have this thing that pirates think of them as Pinatas.
18:01.43dromObvious fact is obvious
18:02.03dromFor what are Industrials useful?
18:02.32MonetThey're your most common form of materials transport.
18:03.37MonetI have a Teyra and with the mods and skills I have it has a cargo hold of about 14,000m3
18:05.05MonetEven wealthy players will use them ebcause they're not as massive or slow a target as a freighter
18:06.26dromI see. But you also told me about the interplanetary network today and months months ago when we talked EVE:O
18:07.07MonetIndeed I did.
18:07.24MonetI guess I forgot to mention that the goods transfer between planets is all manual.
18:07.29dromThey can be used to grant you a solid if not interruptable income?
18:07.37dromAha
18:08.05MonetBut yes, with a good supply you can make a couple of million fairly easily.
18:09.40MonetIt will require a few skills but if you are having cash issues I could supply some of them.
18:17.06dromThat's pretty cool
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18:19.13OluapPlayerFucking kill me
18:19.30Xhokills OluapPlayer in the fucking variety
18:19.47OluapPlayerdat not what i meant
18:19.53Xho2bad
18:21.13Wormy_awayracism in the comments brings me to misery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aV_850nzv4
18:21.14dromhttp://i.imgur.com/g7j8Lhm.webm
18:23.17Wormy_awayI got laughed at once because I asked if someone's cat would steal my toast like a dog.  I was drunk though
18:28.49dromMonet: Made 140 000 ISK today, that'll be enough for today
18:29.00Monetdrom: Not bad.
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18:38.48dromWormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/7KHgx5z.gif
18:40.25Wormy_awayattack of the killer cucumbers
18:41.29dromMonet Wormy_away: Now I'll never see >2m species the same ever again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7xGmdsTSLQ
18:43.42Wormy_awaythats what you get for houses made of plaster and horse hair
18:43.54Wormy_awaylike his own house
18:46.25MonetSemiOr what you get for using cement other than what that ocmpany offers.
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18:52.24Wormy_semi_hereThe Buddha vs. Nietzsche XD http://existentialcomics.com/comic/102
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18:54.49LuxorHereHello there.
18:55.15LuxorHereIs there any universal term for a being able to use essence?
18:55.30dromMonetSemi Wormy_semi_here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yEu2R1gYSs
18:55.40dromLuxorHere: I say magician, ho!
18:55.52LuxorHerehur hur drom, very fun
18:57.24MonetSemiWe've had essence Sages but that's a particular type of essence user.
18:57.42LuxorHereI'll just use "some being capable of using paradigmatic powers"
18:59.12MonetSemiI like using the term "mentalist" personally
19:02.10HachimanI suppose it varies with culture so no universal term if I recall
19:03.36HachimanPersonally I like to call individuals capable of Essence powers "witches", because they, alongside the heretic and the alien, must be purged
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19:07.04Wormy_semi_heredrom:  I did once put on a magnet on the screen
19:07.15HachimanHi Imp
19:07.41dromWormy_semi_here: I assume that you enjoyed the virtual black holes?
19:08.26Wormy_semi_hereIt wasn't that powerful, if I'd used my neodymium magnets it would have gone through the screen
19:08.33Wormy_semi_hereIt was multicoloured
19:08.42Wormy_semi_hereuntil I restarted
19:09.07dromWormy_semi_here: You could also enjoy some finger pancakes if you held it too close.
19:09.32Wormy_semi_hereaye, its only small, so more like finger pinch
19:09.47Wormy_semi_herein fact it did once
19:10.07Wormy_semi_herethe magnet actually snappeed itself in half
19:11.44dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/5FwJlZe.gif
19:11.47Wormy_semi_hereI dropped it on something you see, it fell, broke but snapped together.  I find it takes great strength to pull them part
19:12.33Wormy_semi_heredo it wrong, and you'll pinch for finger tips or even probably break the inger even though its small and made for children
19:12.52dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/qf3ADbj.gif
19:13.03Hachimanhur
19:13.10HachimanI wonder if vampires would be harmed by moonlight
19:13.23HachimanConsidering that the light of the room is reflected sunlight
19:13.30Hachimanmoon even
19:13.50Wormy_semi_herePerhaps its below the thresh-hold of death
19:13.58Wormy_semi_hereAnd actually gooid for them
19:14.15Wormy_semi_hereLike eating too many potatoes would poison you eventually
19:14.25Wormy_semi_hereBut you would be sick long before
19:14.40HachimanSo maybe vampires are harmed by sunlight because it would be like overcharging them?
19:14.50Wormy_semi_here...Could be
19:15.01GhelSo, in principle, you could harm a vampire by focusing a large enough amount of moonlight onto them?
19:15.10dromYou guys just reminded me of that Old Spice's "double solar power" ad
19:15.29HachimanEnough UV radiation onto them, rather
19:15.50Wormy_semi_hereMaybe.  Vampires must have really fragile genes
19:16.01HachimanAlthough if moonlight is good for vampires, I must wonder why they would drink blood for sustenance
19:16.13HachimanI actually dunno what is so nutritious about blood
19:16.37GhelSome species obviously do subsist on blood, but in general it's not the ideal food source.
19:16.51Wormy_semi_herePerhaps they do not have good bone marrow
19:17.02OluapPlayerMythology was not made to be scientifically accurate
19:17.08dromVampires are pale as fuck
19:17.31HachimanIt is not like the panda situation where they evolved in an environment where they must subsist on high intake of low-nutrition foods
19:17.32dromPale skin is also a sign of anaemia
19:17.35GhelOluapPlayer: Exactly. Rather than nutrition and UV, the real reasons for vampires' respective interactions with blood and sunlight are likely to be magic and magic.
19:17.38Wormy_semi_hereI don't know you could probably pull all this together into an explanation about their features
19:18.04GhelYou certainly could come up with science-based vampires.
19:18.05dromAka handwavium
19:18.18OluapPlayerYour tone is very mocking but that is exactly the case
19:18.25GhelNot every attempt at making realistic magic is handwavium, drom.
19:18.47GhelNo, I wasn't mocking. I was actually about to say exactly that, but then you brought up the topic first.
19:18.55Wormy_semi_hereThere is bad handwavium, and good.
19:19.03dromMonetSemi Wormy_semi_here: http://i.imgur.com/lG6CngK.jpg
19:19.07Wormy_semi_hereThe trick is to make your readers not sense it
19:19.20MonetSemiI think vampires drinking blood is directly related to the idea that blood is life.
19:19.21dromHandwavium is an extremely omnipotent element, you shouldn't mess with it
19:20.20OluapPlayerMore like a buzzword
19:21.02Wormy_semi_hereI'm wondering if we could base it on their DNA...
19:21.03GhelMonetSemi: Something like that, I would assume.
19:21.15MonetSemiMy understanding is Vampires drain blood because blood contains the life-material or life-essence.
19:21.47Wormy_semi_hereMakes sense, blood was considered a vitalistic substance and one of the fluids like bile and black bile
19:21.50MonetSemiBack i nthe days where blood was thought ot be created at the source and consumed at the destination the idea must have been that vampires could no longer create blood within themselves.
19:21.54HachimanI remember that there is some sorta semi-scientific explanation as to why vampires consume blood in Blade II while they can consume other foodstuffs alongside
19:22.07GhelSunlight being harmful might also have some such symbolism of the light of day being good, or perhaps it's an exaggeration of their tendency to come out at night.
19:22.10Wormy_semi_hereHence mythology has energy and spirit vampires
19:23.06Wormy_semi_hereThey have found young blood can youthen mice
19:23.25Wormy_semi_hereMaybe they are stem cell stealers
19:23.56Wormy_semi_hereMaybe they bite the neck to get at delicious bone marrow
19:24.23HachimanRealistically, the only solution I can see for which vampires must depend entirely on blood is that it is an easily-consumable substance and certain biological systems and functions have ceased in order to put energy into their more superhuman capabilities
19:24.24dromCould be, but it still leaves out their exaggrated delicacy to sunlight
19:24.37HachimanWith which mild photosynthesis by moonlight could contribute
19:25.12Tek0516Sensitivity to strong UV?
19:25.14Wormy_semi_hereI was thinking it had something to do with having weak DNA by not having a big reproductive population and instead living forever
19:25.17dromYeah, that.
19:26.12dromThere are fictions (not talking about Sporewikiverse nor Fantasyverse) who link their delicacy to UV wavelengths being lethal to them.
19:26.13Wormy_semi_hereI'm not quite sure why I'm thinking some DNA could be more mutated than another by radiation
19:26.14HachimanHow would blood contribute to fixing DNA?
19:26.37GhelThat wouldn't make UV immediately harm them, as in you wouldn't get sunlight turning them to dust.
19:26.48dromSome render the process as "burns".
19:27.21MonetSemiI can't think of mythological explainations but I can think of mystical explainations for sensetivity to sunlight
19:27.44MonetSemiWait was the original Stoker's Dracula sensetive to sunlight?
19:27.49HachimanYes
19:27.53GhelSunburn would result easily if there's little or no melanin in the skin. But easily-damaged DNA isn't directly going to increase burning tendency (it will however make skin cancer more likely).
19:28.25GhelWhat you'd want for that is an increased tendency for inflammation upon exposure to UV.
19:28.48HachimanIt was not sunlight which killed Stoker's Dracula admittedly but I recall that he possessed an aversion to it
19:28.55HachimanOh no wait, I got it wrong
19:29.07dromIn the novel and filmatsation of "Let the Right one in", one of the vampires becomes exposed to sunlight and is lit on fire.
19:29.12HachimanSunlight was not fatal to Stoker's Dracula; his powers were weakened by it however
19:29.15Wormy_semi_hereWe would have to explain their aversion to garlic and salt.
19:29.37Technobliteratorlmao
19:29.41MonetSemiwell garlic, again spiritual.
19:29.45TechnobliteratorI just rewatched the Raiden vs Armstrong fight
19:29.49Technobliteratorat one point Armstrong says:
19:29.56Hachiman"Nanomachines, son!"
19:29.56Technobliterator"they'll make America great again!"
19:30.00Technobliteratorbeat Trump to it
19:30.04MonetSemiGarlic was a medicinal herb.
19:30.04MonetSemiA bitter tasting one at that.
19:30.17OluapPlayerImagine Trump with Armstrong's nanomachines
19:30.20MonetSemiAnd I think the smell of garlic was good at detrerring blood-sucking insects.
19:30.32Tek0516Do many modern works even do the garlic thing anymore?
19:30.38HachimanBlade did it
19:30.52HachimanGarlic is still an anti-vampire icon
19:31.08HachimanPerhaps all vampires are coincidentally people who had a distaste for garlic prior to their vampirification
19:31.08Wormy_semi_hereIn mythology, both garlic and onion were believed to have sprouted whereever the Devil stood on Earth, garlic for his right foot, onion for his left.
19:31.11dromGarlic is also an anti-witch icon
19:31.21Technobliteratoroh boy
19:31.21dromIn some mytologies though
19:31.26Technobliteratorboosting Trump's ego even more
19:31.43OluapPlayerOgres come from the Devil's left foot
19:31.57Wormy_semi_herehur
19:32.07HachimanWHAT ARE YE DOIN IN MA FOOT
19:32.18GhelAversion to garlic could just be a psychological thing. Just a bizarre inexplicable side-effect of vampirism. Wasn't the original idea of salt that all vampires are OCD and will count every last grain of salt spilled on the floor?
19:32.30drom"watch urself before u shrek urself"
19:32.35HachimanI do recall something like that actually
19:32.40Wormy_semi_hereYeah
19:33.09HachimanBoy, if people think scientific vampires are a difficult subject to explain, wait until we move onto scientific lycanthropes
19:33.21Wormy_semi_hereI was about to ask about that.
19:33.26HachimanWhich may or may not be related to vampires, I dunno
19:33.38OluapPlayerur dum
19:33.40MonetSemiWell the Roman scholar Pliny wrote in his book Natural History wrote of a number of beneficial uses for garlic.
19:33.48OluapPlayerPutting realism in a non-realistic thing
19:34.50Wormy_semi_hereWerewolves, "regressive evolution" and superhuman mutants are all in this shapeshifting genetics/disease category
19:35.03HachimanI consider this sorta thing an exercise hu
19:35.04Hachimanhur
19:35.13OluapPlayerIt defeats the point
19:35.19GhelYeah; putting realism in non-realistic things is a challenge.
19:35.21Technobliteratorwoah, Raiden's skin was really tough
19:35.33dromTrying to make sense of non-realistic things is actually a fun particie
19:35.45HachimanTechnobliterator: So is Raiden's synthetic robo-cock
19:35.48Wormy_semi_hereI agree
19:35.49MonetSemiTechnobliterator: It was?
19:35.53OluapPlayerI'm surprised you enjoy Monster Hunter with that attitude, considering nearly everything in that universe should die because of the square cube law
19:35.55drompractice*
19:36.03Technobliteratorthe amount he took from Armstrong
19:36.08Technobliteratoris pretty insane when you look back on it
19:36.11HachimanI can suspend my disbelief for Monster Hunter plus I love fantasy
19:36.34Wormy_semi_hereJust because I like hard SF, doesn't mean I can't enjoy soft sci-fi or hard fantasy
19:36.46HachimanI am not of the opinion that everything should be realistic, I just like a challenge every now and then
19:36.54MonetSemiTechnobliterator: To be fair, 90% of his body is high-grade carbon nanotubes
19:37.13MonetSemiThat's shit's lighter and stronger than steel
19:37.28dromScientific Fantasy also works
19:38.03Wormy_semi_hereProto-science fiction is sort of at the cross-roads with fantasy
19:38.49Wormy_semi_herehttp://www.wardshelley.com/paintings/pages/HistoryofScienceFiction.html
19:38.54Wormy_semi_hereLook at this
19:39.24dromThat text is so tiny ugh
19:39.57MonetSemiLet's not forget that Dracula and The WOlfman were written at a time when Science was really popular amongst the educated classes of EUrope.
19:41.03HachimanAlongside Frankenstein I believe
19:41.27HachimanFrankenstein is like the first proto-science fiction story
19:42.18Wormy_semi_heredrom http://www.wardshelley.com/paintings/pages/fullpics/HistSciFi2.jpg
19:42.30dromThanks!
19:42.31MonetSemiHachiman: Yeah
19:42.38Wormy_semi_hereI did want to write a Jules Vernian adventure story for the Fantasyverse
19:42.58MonetSemiIn fact Frankenstein was based on research coming out of London regarding how the aplication of electricity wasseen to casue muscle spasms in fresh corpses.
19:43.03Wormy_semi_hereWhere a moon docks with Koldenwelt at special times
19:43.13HachimanA universe where Jules Vernian and H.P. Lovecraftian elements coexist would be weird as fuck
19:44.36dromWormy_semi_here: Kinda weird that a sci-fi vampire novel is considered as "Hard"
19:47.07Wormy_semi_hereWhich one?
19:47.28drom"Strain"
19:47.34dromBoth a novel and TV-series
19:48.57Wormy_semi_hereYou don't mean "Andromeda Strain" near "Hard sci-fi title"?
19:49.31HachimanNo, Strain
19:49.55HachimanImpyDroid MonetSemi: Imagine a Fantasyverse equivalent to Blood Bowl
19:50.33dromNo, it is just called "The Strain" but also refered as "Strain".
19:50.34dromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strain
19:52.14Wormy_semi_hereI can't see Strain
19:52.29Wormy_semi_hereI can see Andromeda Strain, which makes sense
19:52.43ImpyDroidShi'a chon end up poking the ball with their armour
19:52.48ImpyDroid*Shiarchon
19:53.02dromWormy_semi_here: Just left to "Hard"
19:53.04OluapPlayerShi'a chon
19:53.08OluapPlayerShiarchon - JUST DO IT
19:53.10dromOh
19:53.30Wormy_semi_hereThat is where I'm looking
19:54.01HachimanShia la Chon
19:54.07Wormy_semi_hereAdmittedly, there is a gap between the two
19:54.34Wormy_semi_hereI'm glad Stephen Baxter is in there
19:54.42dromThere is a fucking line running throu there too
19:54.58Wormy_semi_hereI'm guessing New Space Opera either has a mix of cyberpunk of hard SF on that map
19:55.05Wormy_semi_herewith space opera
19:55.06HachimanImpyDroid: I doubt the Mannazians could do anything against the Sovereignty's greatest Blood Bowl player, John Cenelf
19:56.12dromInterestingly there is also "New Space Opera"
19:56.37dromWormy_semi_here MonetSemi: Get some dawws http://i.imgur.com/wmWl32P.webm
19:57.16Wormy_semi_hereMy whippet with his weak jaw takes his time to chew treats
19:57.32Wormy_semi_hereOr for chews, waits for my other dog to soften it
19:59.09Wormy_semi_hereWeak in dog terms, not human terms.  He ripped the finger nail off my friend when playing catch by accident
19:59.52HachimanJesus Christ that sounds cringeworthy
20:00.27Wormy_semi_hereMy friend happens to be a punk with experience in  metalwork.  So he crafted himself a metal nail, and glued it back on
20:00.40Wormy_semi_hereAnd decorated it with screws
20:02.02Wormy_semi_hereBut yeah I make my dogs stand back before I pick up the item being caught
20:04.27dromnow that's what I call a funny story
20:07.08Wormy_semi_here<PROTECTED>
20:07.52ImpyDroidHachiman Xho: http://40.media.tumblr.com/73d92cb256d9f146cecd2cffdad9945d/tumblr_nq3xi8BD4L1tu1fv2o1_1280.jpg Please tell me I am not the only one who gets this hur
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20:08.03XhoOh god
20:08.25HachimanOh wow
20:09.22dromBritish people in a nutshell
20:09.35ImpyDroidJUST BLOW IT
20:12.01HachimanSHIA AKBAR
20:12.18Tek0516Damnit. Phone almost dead and no charger. Gtg, back in around 5 hours.
20:12.43OluapPlayerYesterday you said allah, so just ackbah
20:12.54Hachimanolol
20:17.57dromABKHAZIA ACKBAR
20:18.36dromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhazia
20:21.34dromAlso the country the crazy slav terrorist utter about in MGS:R
20:22.37HachimanOh yeah, I thought I remembered that name
20:32.06MonetSemiMG:R is being topical there.
20:33.42HachimanMG has always been known for being topical
20:35.12MonetTrue
20:35.36MonetHow much do they talk about history again?
20:35.45Monet(aside from MGS3)
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20:37.19HachimanA fair amount
20:40.30MonetI think the whole mission in Abkhazia relates to when RUssia invaded Georgia in 2008.
20:44.07Monet"Since independence was recognised by Russia, a series of controversial agreements were made between the Abkhazian government and the Russian Federation that leased or sold a number of key state assets and relinquished control over the borders. In May 2009 several opposition parties and war veteran groups protested against these deals complaining that they undermined state sovereignty and risked exchanging one colonial
20:44.07Monetpower (Georgia) for another (Russia)."
20:44.30MonetI am reminded of the line "It [the refinery] is no plant for Abkhaz, it is their prison!"
20:45.24dromHis last words also glorifies Akbhaz before blowing himself up with the refinery.
20:45.53MonetWell he may have had a point
20:46.24Wormy_semi_hereThe God Empress protects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtKJCIeozQ8
20:46.39Wormy_semi_here*Goddess
20:46.56MonetIn November 2014 the Russian and Abkhazian governments wrote up a deal that would create joint Russian and Abkhazian forces
20:48.08MonetA lot of Abkhazians were and perhaps still are worried that Russia's final plan is to annex Abkhazia and SOuth Ossetia.
20:49.13MonetBut whether it actually is...dunno.
20:50.50Monetdrom: That crazy terrorist's beliefs about the plant relate I suppose to how Russia is obsessed with control over the world's oil supply.
20:55.07MonetI can't remember if it was stated whether or not that plant was built after the 2008 invasion.
20:55.41MonetActually I'll stop
20:56.52dromI got to go anyway
21:02.28MonetI think Putin's imperialism might be t odo with his history as a KGB agent.
21:05.10HachimanEh, I dunno
21:05.35HachimanHe's not like Stalin since he is also a supporter of the capitalist movement
21:05.50HachimanI do think he may be a patriot
21:05.54HachimanIf slightly hur
21:06.09Monet"Slightly"
21:07.10MonetWell he's had Russia attack Georgia and the Ukraine, places historically part of the SOviet UNion
21:10.49TechnobliteratorI think his fearlessness has something to do with it
21:11.18MonetThat one is cyclical.
21:11.52MonetHis fearlessness makes hi ma strong leader.
21:13.03MonetI'd say it contributes to these acts of aggression on former Soviet countries.
21:14.58Wormy_semi_hereThe thing is, powerful leaders can distract problems in their own country by displays of paranoia or use of force in another.
21:15.20Wormy_semi_herePutin is probably getting a lot out of simply standing up the West
21:15.26MonetMaybe he is motivated to see a new Russian superstate. Or maybe as Wormy suggests, it's all a distraction fro mwhat is really happening.
21:16.28Wormy_semi_hereFrom what I can see, he is quite a theatrical character in the face of of Russian media.
21:17.25MonetI'm looking at Russia Today. As I've heard it's state-supported
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21:19.07Wormy_semi_hereRussia Today is strangely very left wing, sometimes I learn of protests in London not even mentioned on the BBC, at all or until they have finished, including one about NHS last year.  Though still in the window of propaganda
21:19.49MonetMost of Russia today is about everyone else. Even their "Russian Politics" section is mostly about what other countries' activities are doing to RUssia.
21:20.11Wormy_semi_hereBut a funny moment watching Russia Today was they said Saddam Hussein was found like a "filthy hobo", if that was on BBC or Sky news there would be an uproar from the dogooders
21:21.10MonetWait I'm looking at business, not politics.
21:23.06MonetYeah I'm jsut skeptical about RT.
21:23.40MonetThey did get investigated by Ofcom several times for the way they handled Ukraine.
21:25.05MonetI wouldn't expect the BBC to describe Saddam's discovery state as a "filthy hobo" because it just doesn't sound professional.
21:26.59Wormy_semi_hereAnother funny news channel I watch is NHK World, Japanese news channel in English.  Most of the programming is made to advertise and promote Japan.  It has odd and low budget programming.
21:28.17Wormy_semi_hereThere was a story about competitive indoor climbing.  For some reason they displayed a photograph of a manky injured foot that can happen with inproper footwear, and kept the image onscreen for 3 minutes
21:28.39MonetEwww
21:29.32Wormy_semi_hereThe program featured this teenage girl who has become famous in Japan.  My mother remarked "Yeah, because she is a teenage girl" and concluded the shows have terrible writing
21:30.15MonetIt worked for Miley Cyrus lol.
21:31.05Wormy_semi_hereI'm strangely addicted to NHK, something about its low budgetness is funny
21:31.32MonetWe all have our guilty pleasures.
21:32.33MonetI myself am rather drawn to the rather over-the-top use of blood in Tarantino films.
21:32.59Wormy_semi_hereNHK is like this 90% of the time even though it is a news channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T208OfMmaHE
21:34.08MonetQUentin Tarantino land: WHere apparently the human body contains 20 gallons of blood contained at 800+psi
21:35.27Wormy_semi_hereoh well, you can watch it live http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/live/
21:35.49Wormy_semi_hereThey are force feeding chickens alcohol
21:36.28Wormy_semi_hereActually they are showing a different country for once
21:37.46Wormy_semi_hereMonet:  Have you seen Brain Dead by Peter Jackson?
21:37.58Wormy_semi_hereIt is so gory it becomes hilarious
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22:49.43Wormy_I think the world has had enough rescuing Matt Damon
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