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06:44.28krowTekDroid: I found "long t = (long)(f-25510953600000.0);" in DI
06:44.37krowwhat's the factor after f for?
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08:35.58krowTekDroid: I successfully replicated your implementation of the DI calendar, the only difference though is the day. Mine counts one day less than yours.
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08:58.43JepardiHi
09:10.32krowHey
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10:02.37ImperiosHello
10:05.47krowHey
10:30.38krowI just don't under how Bunsen's calendar works
10:30.42krowunderstand*
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11:00.20MonetHello
11:00.48AdmiralPandahi
11:01.48krowTek0516: Your goddamned Farengeto required me to make over 30 lines of shouting code.
11:02.42krowTek0516: Look at all dem lines http://i.imgur.com/ldw0XnA.png
11:03.11Tek0516:P
11:04.40krowCompare that to the rambian calendar: http://i.imgur.com/gVEMFaf.png
11:05.50krowSecondly, I don't understand your implementation of the Bunsen calendar
11:06.18krowrants even more
11:07.00krowAlright, time to do the code handling the Farengeto date calculation
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11:08.51Wormy_hi
11:09.07krowHey
11:10.04Wormy_hi
11:11.13krowTek0516: Can I question about the origins of the 134217728.0?
11:11.44krowNevermind, figured it out
11:42.45Tek0516krow: I think Bunsen was just Earth sith the leap day removed
11:43.12Tek0516*with
11:43.24Tek0516Removed, as in spread throughout the year
11:43.39MonetIt has shorter years I think
11:44.19Tek0516No, IIRC Bunsen is some everything overall year length just no leap day
11:51.57krowTek0516: The ultimatium when ours aren't the same. http://i.imgur.com/it9Ltcq.png
11:53.12Tek0516well for one the real time has a year difference...
11:54.24krowTek0516: Mine run on 1y/263 ratio starting from year 1 A.D. while your's run on 1y/52 ratio starting from epoch (1970)
11:56.32Tek0516The wikitime moves at a simple 7x though.
11:58.19krowTek0516: Here's our clocks synced. http://i.imgur.com/Z1E1LZX.png
11:58.53Tek0516Yeah, that's a bit off
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12:00.09Tek0516Wondered why Farengeto's was so far off, in my clock it's corrected to base 8.
12:04.55krowit is because I'm returning the string as base 10
12:05.49Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/WFhzd7D  cat fax http://imgur.com/gallery/XDQm9  truth about baby carrots http://imgur.com/gallery/pHNKe  http://imgur.com/gallery/I9wNwVJ  http://imgur.com/gallery/oGwCZpy tiny lemon http://imgur.com/gallery/HYZXbVL http://imgur.com/gallery/dBKItdE  http://imgur.com/gallery/YPojgFh
12:05.54Wormy_krow:  http://i.imgur.com/QZdgwTD.png?1
12:06.20krowWormy_: rekt
12:07.51Wormy_traffic light fight http://imgur.com/gallery/169UKQV
12:08.33krowTek0516: The year now match, but the month and day are off with 1 day.
12:08.42krowJust one unit
12:08.44krowdamnit
12:11.11krowTek0516: Secondly, I've noticed that you've implemented a 1 unit offset for both day and month in your clock.
12:11.49Tek0516For the moving around, I believe.
12:12.06krow:V
12:13.45Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Xkd3pI8  http://imgur.com/gallery/XH9gu
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12:19.08Tek0516krom: Or do you mean the actual visible times have an offset?
12:20.03krowYes
12:20.22krowe.g. this "int FUCd = (int)Math.abs(FUC%(64))+1;"
12:20.38krowYou are telling it to calculate, then add 1 unit to it
12:21.05krowWhile my approach is:     this.day = (ms/MILLISECONDS_PER_DAY%DAYS_PER_MONTH).abs().floor();
12:21.12krowShould include the offset or not?
12:24.27krowUsing ceiling instead of flooring, the month now match. But the day is still off with 2.
12:25.39Tek0516oh. It's that way so there's no 0 day. Days 1-100 in a month rather than 0-77.
12:26.56Tek0516Since in base 10 the equation returns between 0 and 63. But like hoe we have no September 0th I correct for that.
12:30.20krowI believe I should return to flooring, because if I round (by either ceiling, traditional rounding and truncating), the year will become 12.
12:30.47Tek0516Yes, it should round down.
12:30.59Tek0516if I understand directly
12:31.05Tek0516*correctly
12:32.21krowI feel like a bird-brain I can tell you
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12:40.46Wormy_<PROTECTED>
12:41.34Wormy_there are delelict brownfield sites all over the place that could be converted to flats or whatever
12:42.31MonetWormy_: Well at least one good thing came out of Osbourne's new housing policy then. Since his proposal makes building on brownfields somewhat easier.
12:42.54Wormy_That is a good move
12:43.33Wormy_We got National Heritage or whatever they are called on our side for some of the countryside
12:46.33Wormy_Mon:  I think its the Labour councillors who want houses everywhere.  I support more housing in brownfield sites but not the green areas
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12:54.01Wormy_The place they want to build on is defined as a greenbelt, a world heritage buffer zone, and a popular walking route
12:54.29MonetThere;s only so much space on this island
13:03.11Wormy_I can't believe they now want to get rid of sports meadows.  Its obscene
13:03.34Wormy_Hopefully all the sports clubs will really against them
13:03.38Wormy_*rally
13:04.23MonetMaybe we need ot reconsider building up
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13:04.29HachimanHai
13:04.35MonetHi
13:04.51MonetWhat largely killed the housing projectsi  nthe 60s was possibly bad planning.
13:04.57Wormy_As I said, there is loads of abandoned buildings and factories, they could build there
13:05.05Wormy_Hi
13:05.24Hachiman"Ignorance is thinking Frankenstein was his monster. Knowledge is realising Frankenstein was the scientist. Wisdom is understanding that Frankenstein was the monster."
13:07.09MonetHachiman: That's quite poignant
13:07.24Wormy_yep
13:07.54Wormy_The real monsters for me were the people who hunted down his monster
13:08.01MonetIf the monster were built today or in the next 20 years, would it still be an abomination?
13:08.27Wormy_To radical groups, yes.
13:08.30HachimanConsider that the Monster consisted of parts taken from graves and the deceased and effectively reanimated
13:08.52MonetI recall that Victor Frankenstein made them onster so big because he was unable to make or use components that were small enough.
13:09.13HachimanFrankenstein had attempted to play God by not only creating life, but recreating it
13:09.18Wormy_In a way, we have this issue with GM, stem cells and vat grown meat or organs, and more precisely, hybrid cells
13:10.10Wormy_I do not have an issue with "playing god", which I think it used in an anti-progressive and parichial stance
13:10.41HachimanI am rather astounded that, as a proto-science fiction novel, the story of Frankenstein is nearly two centuries old
13:11.21MonetVictor became obsessed with restoring or creating life, but when he actually made the monster he was horrified. Is it possible that what he created wasn't what he expected?
13:11.23Wormy_But the scientist who created it probably should have known better about how it should have been treated, and how people would react.
13:12.44Wormy_Mary Shelley also wrote this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Man
13:13.35HachimanI imagine that it was the revelation of the Monster which caused Victor to become horrified rather than the actual Monster itself
13:14.21HachimanAlthough while initially the Monster acted childish due to being fresh into the world, in the novel he is actually shown as being quite a decent and well-read individual
13:14.39MonetHe was very intelligent.
13:16.33HachimanAlso consider the era that the story was set in and was written in; if a mere man such as Victor Frankenstein could create / recreate life, what does this mean for the nature of the existence and influence of God?
13:17.45HachimanEven if the Monster was not a grotesque abomination, the concept behind his origins
13:17.47HachimanFuck
13:18.06HachimanThe concept behind his origins would still have presumably irked the townspeople into treating him as a threat
13:18.36MonetI'm not sure if anyone knew where it came from, it looked inhuman enough for them to be terrified.
13:18.48MonetCome to think of it
13:19.16MonetFrankenstein sounds like a transhumanist story that was wrotten over a century before the movement began
13:19.30Wormy_Personally I feel one of the early science fiction greats was Olaf Stapledon.  The Star Maker, while it has some eccentricities, has exotic alien life, virtual reality (including one for smell rather than sight), cyberspace, dyson spheres (before their time), conscious stars and nebulae, swarm intelligences, using entire worlds as spaceships, a war between intergalactic civilisation and the stars
13:20.04Wormy_correct orders of magnitude and the fate of the universe, and finally a meeting with the Star Maker, a being that creates entire universes foir aesathetic and moral appeal
13:20.04MonetIn some interpretations the experiment was not just thrying ot create life, but make something artifical yet human
13:20.27Wormy_It reads vividly as if the author astral projected and saw it all
13:20.42MonetFrankenstein's monster was quite possibly the world's first cyborg.
13:21.00HachimanThe Monster was shown and proven to be both stronger and more intelligent than the (then-)modern man of the era
13:21.09Wormy_written just before WW2
13:22.28MonetHachiman: He was animated and improved though technology.
13:22.37HachimanAye
13:24.38HachimanIn all honesty, the idea and nature of the Monster and his creation is still quite a controversial subject that has remained in our culture and society over the course of 200 years after the publication of the novel
13:26.40HachimanHumanity is already known to possess the technology to clone functioning biological organisms from collected biological materials - such as stem cells gathered from foetuses and corpses and such
13:27.15HachimanAnd yet the idea of cloning and genetic modification is still vehemently opposed by the public
13:27.49MonetI feel a bit dissapointed at the general interpretation of the monster.
13:27.58Monethttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Frontispiece_to_Frankenstein_1831.jpg this is an 1831 interpretation
13:28.35HachimanHe does not look too grotesque in that picture
13:29.06MonetIndeed.
13:29.18MonetAnd look at those abs.
13:31.10MonetIt was Boris Karloff's 1930s film interpretation that gave us the Frankenstein we know
13:31.17Monetthe monster we know, sorry.
13:31.25HachimanI cannot remember if the Monster was actually described as being physically grotesque in the original novel
13:31.50HachimanI remember some interpretations, may or may not have been the original novel, which made the Monster inhumanly beautiful or uncanny
13:33.47Hachiman"Because of the difficulty in replicating the minute parts of the human body, Victor is forced to make the Creature roughly eight feet tall. As a result, the beautiful creation of his dreams is instead hideous, with yellow eyes and skin that barely conceals the muscle tissue and blood vessels underneath. Repulsed by his work, Victor flees. Saddened by the rejection, the Creature disappears."
13:34.21MonetHe wanted an ideal human.
13:34.38MonetWHich is what made me think, had he tried today, could he have succeeded in a beautiful creation?
13:35.17HachimanWould it have made his experiment any more ethical?
13:35.32MonetProbably not.
13:36.05MonetThen again back in his day many teaching hospitals relied on grave diggers for a cadavear supply.
13:36.17MonetWasn't legal, but it was neccessary.
13:36.39MonetSome doctors became notorious for their deals.
13:37.39HachimanAye
13:38.53MonetAlthough back in 1821, artificial intelligence was a fantasy
13:41.23MonetA Victor Frankenstein of 2021 could try adding microprocessors
13:41.52MonetMaybe he could have created the artificial man of his dreams?
13:42.56HachimanHe may have done, as we have the potential to genetically-engineer foetuses and such in the modern age today
13:43.12HachimanAnd grow organs and tissues in artificial environments
13:44.40MonetWe might be some way off from every little bit of our babies being tailored, but artificially-grown tissues, plus current-gen cybernetics and prosthetics, he might have gotten his dream
13:44.48MonetHe was limited by the technology of the age, essentially
13:45.27HachimanAnd the resources he had access to
13:46.29HachimanKeep in mind he was not creating life from scratch; he was reanimating it from deceased and decayed tissues and such, and that is an entirely different matter from outright creating new biological material
13:46.54HachimanI imagine this is why the Monster's creation concluded with it being hideous
13:47.04HachimanSince it effectively looked like a zombie
13:47.18MonetDid the book say his dream included human flesh, or was that largely a decision he made?
13:48.12MonetActually I think he used machine parts partially because he couldn't find the organic versions?
13:48.28Wormy_I get the impression the author was inspired by the belief that electricity was a vital force of life.  People knew by her time that muscles contract when put under an electric current.
13:48.55HachimanI dunno given I am unsure how popular or widely-used prosthetics and such were in that eras
13:48.58Wormy_So they assumed electricity could reanimate flesh and return life to it
13:48.58Hachimanera even
13:50.15HachimanWormy_: That is actually the exact inspiration behind the story on Mary Shelley's part; she had overheard conversations of new development into electrical technology and the potential for it to influence motion in deceased body parts
13:50.49HachimanAnd as a result, she suffered a waking dream of what effectively played out as the creation of the Monster by Victor Frankenstein
13:51.06Wormy_interesting
13:52.22MonetI think it was around the 1800s when prosthetic limbs started becoming more practical. Wooden hands and such
13:52.58HachimanI imagine he had to use human flesh and animal leather in order to replicate skin for the Monster in order to keep all of its insides from becoming damaged
13:53.06MonetYeah
13:54.17Monet"At university, he [Victor] excels at chemistry and other sciences, soon developing a secret technique to impart life to non-living matter, which eventually leads to his creation of the Monster."
13:55.53Monet"As a young boy, Victor is obsessed with studying outdated theories that focus on simulating natural wonders."
13:57.00Monet"Because of the difficulty in replicating the minute parts of the human body Victor is forced to make the Creature roughly eight feet tall."
13:57.18MonetIt vaguely sounds like he wanted to create an artificial body.
13:58.39HachimanI like that Mary Shelley, despite much of the focus of the story being on the harmful relationship between Victor Frankenstein and the Monster, also portrays the idea of men boldly travelling into and exploring the unknown as a positive; when Captain Walton retreats from the Arctic expedition, he knows that he returns "ignorant and disappointed"
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13:59.12Wormy_indeed
13:59.13Wormy_hi
14:00.32HachimanWhat Shelley effectively does is provide two sides to the argument of whether or not mankind should venture into unknown realms and depths that have not been explored before; her examples including the recreation and reanimation of life and traversing the Arctic continent
14:00.35MonetI recall that questions like these are what can make a novel last.
14:02.37HachimanOverall, though, the two goals share something in common; neither could have been achieved without sacrifice and ambition and both ventures result in the deaths of those familiar with Victor Frankenstein and Captain Walton
14:03.08MonetI recall one thing Nostalgia Critic pointed out about the recent Lorax adaptation was that unlike the TV movie, it doesn't make you think and that it gives you answers; so viewers have no reason to come back and watch it again.
14:03.14Wormy_I suppose unlocking the secrets of nuclear power is an example.  It can be a great source of energy and gives us enormous knowledge of how matter forms and works.  But it also opened Pandora's box, the weapons that could wipe out humanity
14:03.35HachimanAye
14:04.09HachimanEthical and philosophical questions allow works of media to sustain the passage of time
14:05.15HachimanAs the answers are open for interpretation without a direct or given answer, with the opinion of the answer of the question subject to change as modern attitudes change
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14:42.52dromHello again
14:46.58dromNuclear Throne is admittely one of the best games I know.
15:29.30Wormy_awayDebunking "Quantum jumps"  http://edge.org/response-detail/25453
15:33.55Wormy_awayhttp://cafehayek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/miracle_cartoon.jpg
15:49.25Wormy_awaydrom kids http://imgur.com/gallery/9Elkh2p/comment/451535420
15:51.23Wormy_awayI think mine was a crafting program about building a bug house
16:03.59dromWormy_away: "My favorite movie when I was a kid? An instructional video on how to use and maintain a fish tank."
16:04.08dromFrom memory, I can relate.
16:04.38Wormy_awayI used to have an obsession with it too, and then stick insect vivariums
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16:10.58ImperiosHi
16:11.08Wormy_awaydrom:  Do you know anything about the Processing language?
16:11.40Wormy_awayNature of Code uses it, but I'd rather stick to Python or Javascript as they work well for web or Maya
16:12.45Wormy_awayThe OOP principles must be the same of course, but I'm going to need to translate them into Js syntax
16:12.57dromNope. The only languages I do happen to know are Dart, JS, Java, C/C++, C# and little of Python and Bash. Excluding the document parsing languages PHP, HTML, CSS and XML.
16:13.21Wormy_awayKhan Academy based a course in Js on it, but that practically tells me what to do too easily
16:13.31ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: Do you know if Xho will come today?
16:13.40ImperiosI'm up for Wrath of Night
16:13.50dromImperios: It is friday today, there is a chance.
16:14.01OluapPlayerI know he won't be online during the weekend
16:14.05OluapPlayerBut he might show up today
16:15.37ImperiosBTW OP I wanted to discuss Kimorgos's involvement in the section
16:17.39Wormy_awaybbl
16:17.42OluapPlayerAlright
16:20.17Wormy_awaydrom:  Oh well, it will be good experience to transalate it into different languages
16:20.18drom<PROTECTED>
16:20.47Wormy_awayMEL would be a different story, it's a non-OOP so much harder/longer
16:21.15Wormy_awayVery nice
16:21.26Wormy_awayBetter than anything I can do yet
16:21.30Wormy_awaybbl again
16:25.48Imperiosdrom: Awesome
16:26.07ImperiosNow we only need to make the numbers arbitrary
16:28.08dromImperios: The numbers are currently so far arbitrary as I can get with the code.
16:28.56dromSome did give some sense of approval concerning the dates being closer to our current time, which is circa 2803-2805.
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16:31.40CyrannianHai
16:32.38dromHey
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16:41.24CyrannianHello
16:59.57dromWormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/1hf7Sgo.jpg
17:14.08Wormy_awayindeed
17:15.38Wormy_awaydrom, Cyrannian, Imperios:  Scroll down http://imgur.com/gallery/BJO9FAs
17:16.09Cyrannianlol
17:17.16dromSeen
17:17.52dromWormy_away: http://imgur.com/gallery/XDQm9
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17:19.39The_RandomnessHello
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17:19.58CyrannianHello Random
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17:22.13dromCyrannian Hachiman OluapPlayer Imperios: http://imgur.com/gallery/u1BgU
17:22.14Wormy_awayCat fax
17:27.09dromWormy_away Ghelae: http://i.imgur.com/I9wNwVJ.webm
17:27.13dromArgentina
17:28.55dromhttp://i.imgur.com/D1NOEG0.webm
17:40.02dromhttp://i.imgur.com/UPuZN3A.jpg
17:41.24Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/yZTpHW1
17:44.34dromhttp://i.imgur.com/3XqeoWe.jpg
17:47.42Wormy_awayWhy didn't this guy call the agency the debt collector worked for?  http://imgur.com/gallery/dYQ7jBR
17:48.53Wormy_awayProbably for the better anyway, silly violent people
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17:53.30dromWormy_away: Yeah, about that: http://i.imgur.com/AvwDaLd.webm and http://i.imgur.com/XiwPN7Z.webm
17:55.04dromBouncer overreacts by pushing an angry guest by pushing down a flight of stairs. When it erupts to a fight, the bearded guy, who is drunk, gets a uppercut by the blue-shirted bouncer.
17:56.16Wormy_awayYou can kill a drunk person by pushing them like that
17:56.56Wormy_awayActually I saw something that wasn't right once
17:57.50Wormy_awaySomeone ran out of a supermarket with a stolen bag of shopping, the security guard followed and punched him in back of his kidneys wow running, he body slammed the floor.
17:58.01Wormy_away*while running
18:01.14dromYeah. Whatever you do working as a bouncer/security guard, DO NOT push people into dangerous/harmful environments/cirumstances and don't pick a fight on a guy just because he called you an asshole or if you simply don't like him/her.
18:02.23Wormy_awayIf they are beyond safe restraint or won't go away they should call the police to arrest them
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18:02.54dromSecondly, drunk people are unpredictable and weak targets, it can be hard to take care of or help them peacefully.
18:02.55Wormy_awayhi
18:02.55LuxorHypetrain!
18:02.57dromHey
18:02.59The_RandomnessHello
18:03.10LuxorFinally U17 for warframe
18:03.28drommore like grindframe
18:03.46LuxorWell, literally, yes.
18:03.58Wormy_awayOne thing I don't like was the guard who punched the youtuber in the face who was asking people if he could kiss them on the cheek.  For one, the guy asked him and guard let him
18:04.40dromWormy_away: The funny part of this one is the guy who packed a punch, but miss and hit the door. http://i.imgur.com/dEPXLhD.webm
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18:04.51LuxorUnecspected error.
18:05.19LuxorStill 25 mins to verify the files :/
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18:05.35The_RandomnessHey
18:05.40LuxorHai
18:05.45Wormy_awayToo slow in his punch I guess
18:05.48Wormy_awayHi
18:05.59GD12Hallo
18:06.23dromHallo polen
18:06.36dromzuess zat?
18:06.55GD12wat?
18:07.05Wormy_vat?
18:07.09dromsurprise anschluss
18:07.53droma joke so dumb that I'm like that seal laughing for himself
18:07.54LuxorPolish Language, Lesson #1: Good morning = Dzień dobry /Jen' Dobry/
18:08.06The_RandomnessI cannot into joke
18:08.16dromkurwa!
18:08.25LuxorDrom, that's the lesson #2! No spoliers!
18:08.32Luxorspo!lers*
18:08.38Wormy_I had a Polish geology lecturer.
18:08.39GD12lol
18:08.41Luxorlol
18:09.03LuxorU wanna hear a joke?
18:09.08GD12alright
18:09.16LuxorWhere does the Germany lie?
18:09.16dromWormy_: You also went to a college that had a polish bus driver that your schoolmates always played "pranks" on.
18:09.25Wormy_yes indeed
18:09.26dromLike it was something out of a comedy sketch
18:09.30Luxor*Under the Stalingrad
18:09.50Luxorhur hur
18:09.54Wormy_And he bought pheasants from one of the students, and feathers blew all over the bus
18:09.59GD12Is anyone here from Poland?
18:10.03LuxorMe
18:10.11dromtak
18:10.12LuxorDzieńdobry, Gie-De-Dwanaście.
18:10.17Wormy_The whole coillege lecturers included was a comedy sketch
18:10.38drom"coillege"
18:10.43drom*bzt*
18:11.08Wormy_I wasn't attempting a Polish accent there, just encase
18:11.24LuxorLol, u dont spell that in Polish
18:11.30Luxorin fact we have many 'borrowed' words
18:11.47LuxorBut college is spelled /koledż/
18:11.52GD12Luxor, do you have a link to ur fiction?
18:11.57Luxor+
18:12.05dromWormy_: You should novelize your experience in that college.
18:12.07GD12I was probably on hiatus when you joined the wiki
18:12.36Wormy_I don't know *how* the Polish bus driver got tricked, from my college there was one road, one to Derby, one to Chesterfield.  His bus came from Derby, and was going to Derby, but students kept tricking him to go the wrong way for a few miles
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18:13.46Luxor_Got easy translation:
18:14.00Luxor_College in Polish - /Koledż/ - /Coal-Edge/
18:14.23GD12Luxor_ : do you have a link to ur fiction? I was probably on hiatus when you joined the wiki
18:14.23dromYou also told that you (you students of that college) bought lot of chickens and decapticated them?
18:14.37dromOnly to later be sold to the said bus driver?
18:14.43Wormy_drom:  I had lots of fun times there, and i should document it.  However, I was also bullied every day, so it wasn't all good.  I was the only geek amongst a college of farmers, horse riders, horticulturists and townies
18:14.47Luxor_GD12: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AUnited_Republic_of_Nations
18:14.57Luxor_Not completed yet, that's the problem
18:15.08Luxor_I need to find a slave which would finish it for a piece of bread
18:15.24dromWormy_: In what way?
18:16.33dromIn Sweden, bullying means discrimination, unjustified beating and forced outsidership.
18:17.28Luxor_In sweden one of the political parties decided to form a homo manifestation in Stockholm's muslim district
18:17.42Wormy_Well, they picked on me especially because I couldn't relate or socialise very well, I didn't go to xsecondary school and was home educated.  I also wasn't that strong or practical with tools or machines, they all had been brought up tossing hailstacks.  I'd get ganged up on, my stuff stolen and dropped all over the place.  I'd get pushed out of conversations, told I never should have been born
18:17.44Luxor_Other party said 'It's discrimination' and seeks a way to terminate it
18:17.49Wormy_<PROTECTED>
18:18.09Wormy_I got chucked into bushes and scratched because of it
18:18.18GD12Luxor_ : Good start! The models are beautiful!
18:18.32dromLuxor_: Intergration here is garbage.
18:18.34Luxor_Oh mann, I need to get human template asap
18:19.41dromWormy_: Sucks to hear that.
18:20.38Wormy_They were some of the worst, but also most memorable moments of my life, and weirdly more vivid in my memory than university
18:20.53Luxor_Warframe U17 verified, i'll try to appear today once again, but not rly possible
18:20.58Wormy_and it toughened me up
18:21.04Luxor_I need to learn all this Parkour 2.0...
18:21.29Wormy_Hah, that reminds, students would free-run along the buildings
18:23.22GD12\wat
18:23.30GD12parkour sounds cool tbh
18:23.32Wormy_The lecturers were awesome too.  They would let us tear up the fields with landrovers, make fires (as long as they had practical purpose) and took us on long trips to see wildlife areas or historical land use
18:23.50Wormy_And one of them was hilarious
18:24.01dromWormy_: I was victim of verbal abuse from my classmates for many years. So that has thoughened me as well. But I've noticed a downside in that though, I would often easily feel terrible or ill when I hear banter or critism directed to me.
18:24.22dromSo I'm lot more anxious about introducing myself to new communties and friends.
18:24.24Wormy_Yes I get that feeling too
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18:24.29HachimanThat skeleton webcomic was adorable
18:24.43Luxor_Polish Lesson #4 - If u want to say 'hello' to somebody, never use 'Sp!erdalaj' - /S-pier-daal-ai/
18:24.58dromWormy_: Despite that, I'm still friends with them.
18:24.58Wormy_You are right, I might document my experiences from college and maybe upload some photos, since people enjoy hearing these stories
18:25.04dromStockholm syndrome.
18:25.48Wormy_Yes, I don't hate any (all but two) of the people that bullied me.  For the rest it was just group banta and everyvody got it.  But a couple really tried to make my time miserable
18:26.09HachimanShould have eaten their hearts
18:26.14Wormy_I still have all of them on Facebook
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18:28.55dromWormy_: Banter is an everyday meal for me
18:29.24Luxor_HERE I COME WRFRM
18:29.33Luxor_HYPETRAIN CONFIRMED, ILLOOOMINARTY
18:30.01dromFunny that people treat victims of verbal abuse as "robots" due of the lack of emotions when threatened, abused or mocked.
18:31.50Wormy_That was my tactic.  I didn't fight back (though wanted to at times), I had absolutely all my wit drained so I gave up verbally reciprocating.  I just ignored, blanked or nodded, or even pretended to act out this character they were stereotyping on me
18:32.07Wormy_In fact I decided to *be* annoying
18:32.09dromWormy_: I even had that guy who attempted to silence me and my presence by over-voicing me.
18:32.35dromThe others told him to shut up.
18:33.02Wormy_But not to be on your side, but to attack him for *being like you*?
18:33.32dromIt started with that I told him that he was annoying. Start of story.
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18:35.19dromIn fact I managed to humiliate him in front of my class by telling him that he had a "nice ass" when he pulled down his pants when overtaking me and two other friends on a stakeboard.
18:35.53dromShort story, the two friends presuded me to tell it to them again while one was filming my speech.
18:35.56Wormy_I think if I went to that college now I might not have been bullied as much, having been to university and being more socialised, growing a beard and naturally stronger
18:36.01dromIt felt good.
18:36.41dromGrowing a beard is the nicest feeling ever.
18:37.46Wormy_My best come back was when one of them told me how they enjoyed fucking my mum, so I told them "Yeah, she was saying she was disappointed".  It put a stop to that joke but he told me "shut up or I'll break your nose"
18:41.23Wormy_also this short-arsed student bullied me the most, one day he tried to push me off a rock and he couldn't, which earned him humiliation
18:41.45Wormy_the same happened to him when he tried to yank me off a coach seat
18:42.00Tybusenthat portable gravity enhancer came in handy didn't it
18:42.13dromhur
18:42.15Wormy_indeed it did
18:43.22Wormy_I could put up with the group "shits and giggles", but as I said, some did try to single me out
18:45.12Wormy_<PROTECTED>
18:45.13dromI prefer to be more of a listener becuase it helps me to learn about the individuals without risking to make myself a joke.
18:46.30dromThis is because I'm deaf and I hear through implantats capable of a slightly accurate-replication of normal hearing.
18:47.00dromSo I can preceive speech in an other way.
18:47.03Wormy_I start out as quiet, but my problem is that when I've been with people for a few months, I get a bit too much.  My eccentricities can work against me if I'm with the wrong crowd
18:50.18dromTybusen Monet Techno The_Randomness Cyrannian: http://martinlyra.github.io/Ficlock/ c
18:50.31The_Randomnessoh nice
18:50.41The_RandomnessI had something similar to that, but you had to download it
18:50.46TybusenNice
18:50.55TybusenThough Farengeto Time gets cut off on the right side
18:51.14CyrannianVery nice
18:51.39TybusenTek made one like this too
18:51.40Cyrannianhttps://www.chromeexperiments.com/experiment/ancient-earth - This is interesting
18:51.55dromIt is currently not capable of "time-travel" or conversion, neither it does support resolutions smaller than 1980x1050. But said support and features are definitely planned.
18:53.02dromTybusen The_Randomness: Yep, but the thing that differs from the Tek's is the fact that mine is slower.
18:53.10Wormy_I love three.js
18:53.16TybusenI guess one issue of trying to line up IRL time with Fictionverse time is that Fictionverse does not advance at the same rate as IRL time due to the way fiction is written
18:53.45TybusenTek's was aligned such that it was 2804 or so when he first made it
18:54.11TybusenIt's probably been an IRL year since then and we're still in Fictionverse 2804 or so
18:54.48dromAbout the Farengeto time, The_Randomness. The layout is yyyy.mm.dd.hh=mm-ss and I've decided to cut the time and do only keep the dates (year, month and day).
18:55.24dromOf course did I forget to add the "FUC" to the end, but that will be fixed in the next version.
18:56.13GhelI also have "Apalos Time Units" which are basically never used and just appear on the Apalos page (IIRC; I haven't looked at it in ages). That's exceptionally simple; it starts at 0 at the Annihilation and tracks one Unit per real-life year.
18:56.29Wormy_I want to program things like this in the future http://pmneila.github.io/jsexp/grayscott/
18:57.03dromThat does indeed look awesome.
18:57.04The_Randomness:o
18:57.10Monetdrom: CLock's lookign sharp
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18:58.00dromTybusen: Interestingly, Tek's follow the 1 year/52 days ratio while mine follows 1/263.
18:58.01LuxorU17 is awesome!!!
18:58.10dromfollows*
18:59.07TybusenThat certainly is interesting
18:59.45Luxor...test
19:01.15TybusenReally the best purpose of these Fictionverse clocks is to show which dates line up on the alternative calendars
19:01.35CyrannianI was planning on introducing a new calendar for Cyrannus funnily enough
19:04.13Wormy_I better get on my with my projects or I never will!
19:04.49dromWormy_semi_here: http://vincentgarreau.com/particles.js/#nasa
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19:06.20Wormy_Odd, Chrome froze up on that
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19:08.25Wormy_chop*sigh*, nick still in use on a channel I'm not a mod on
19:09.03LuxorPolish Lagnuage - Lesson #5 - Do not confuse Polish with Russian. n e v e r.
19:16.36Wormy_semi_heredrom:  Me tonight:  http://www.swapsamoa.com/images/gr580_ballmer_peak.jpg
19:17.02dromHachiman: There is more: http://tapastic.com/episode/96899
19:20.05dromWormy_semi_here: Why I love Unix: https://blog.glyphobet.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/usingcomicsans1.png
19:20.47Wormy_semi_herethe book that ruined com sans through popularity
19:22.41dromIf Wormy's life was a book: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fixpa/images/3/3e/Coding_Drunk.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110128183850
19:22.59Wormy_semi_here"Guinness press"
19:23.29Wormy_semi_hereI did find a site which described what programming was like with different kinds of drugs
19:23.37Wormy_semi_hereCan't find it now
19:24.35Wormy_semi_hereBut once I created a probabalistic decision tree, spent all day on it, went to bed fatigued and couldn't sleep because a damn coin flip would happen on the verge of sleep "will you sleep or awaken", and i would always wake up
19:24.58Wormy_semi_here*probabilistic
19:25.40dromWormy_semi_here: Here http://brej.org/edit/influence/
19:25.51Wormy_semi_hereThat's the one!
19:26.47Wormy_semi_hereShould have tried something psychedelic, but that might end up sending you to a world like I did that night
19:27.37Wormy_semi_hereI do not even want to think about it too much encase that hypnagogic algorithm is remembered tonight
19:29.30Wormy_semi_hereI get this http://www.researchgate.net/publication/8693347_Daytime_parahypnagogia_a_state_of_consciousness_that_occurs_when_we_almost_fall_asleep
19:41.18Wormy_semi_hereThis applies for me as well https://energyjobgateway.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/what-my-friends-think-i-do-geology.jpg
19:43.40dromhttp://ct.perceptionvsfact.com/ol/pf/se/i57/2/11/2/frabz-Programmer-What-my-parents-think-I-do-What-my-friends-think-I-do-1e5a2b.jpg
19:43.46dromSo accurate that it hurts
19:48.43TekDroiddrom: Very accurate. XD
19:48.52Wormy_semi_hereSo funny
19:49.44dromTekDroid Wormy_semi_here: There is also this: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2b/e6/b5/2be6b5b6bd68520c3fc0f9a1d26ed706.jpg
19:50.09TekDroid>.>
19:51.29Wormy_semi_hereThe closest I can find to countryside management/conservation, from college http://ct.perceptionvsfact.com/ol/pf/se/i50/5/4/4/frabz-Wildlife-Conservationist-What-my-friends-think-I-do-What-my-mom--cf96e8.jpg
19:52.18Wormy_semi_hereEither asking google or using stack exchange
19:53.29Wormy_semi_hereI ought to make one
19:53.59MOnetSemihttps://balnacra.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/artist.jpg this I'd say might be accurate for me. Wel laside fro mthe second frame, my mum understands the industry quite well
19:54.21dromhttp://thecomputerboys.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/datamation-1965-well-dressed-programmer.png
19:57.14Wormy_semi_hereNumber 4
19:57.27Wormy_semi_hereshould be 5
19:57.30MOnetSemihttp://www.muezli.com//ForumPics/Animator.jpeg hmm possibly this too.
19:57.38MOnetSemiAnimation these days is a loot of MATHS
20:00.13dromSo does programming
20:00.27drominteger remaindation urgh
20:00.32MOnetSemiActually good point there.
20:00.39Wormy_semi_hereI wonder if we could make SporeWiki versions of these lol
20:01.22MOnetSemiWOrking in maya...I'd say that animation using 3D software is a little like Programming only society thinks you're illiterate, sleep late int othe day and smoke weed.
20:01.33MOnetSemia lot like programming rather*
20:01.40Wormy_semi_hereWiki beaurecrat - "What I actually do" = IRC
20:02.53Wormy_semi_hereMaya has visual programming tools as well as a MEL or Python editor, but the visual graph editors are just that in buttons
20:02.53dromAverage fantasyverse writers - "What I actually do" = He: let's do the thing              Me: later
20:03.18OluapPlayerWhat I think I do - fiction                  What I actually do - complain about not doing fiction
20:03.45MOnetSemihttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Qbon9RHzr2M/UX0opSYDcyI/AAAAAAAAE38/YJUdEmGyXOs/s1600/funny+lego+meme.jpg that is both genius and evil
20:04.32The_Randomnesslol
20:04.34OluapPlayerJust wear shoes
20:05.13MOnetSemiStill going to eb uncomfrotable walking over it
20:05.58Wormy_semi_hereSporeWiki admin:  New users:  Scary boss  Users:  Authoritarian rule  What I think I do:  Society building /or blueprints  Other admins:  Lazy  Family:  Lazy person typing on Facebook
20:06.03dromYou are also more likely to fall over when stepping on lego with shoes than stepping on one bare-footed.
20:06.12Wormy_semi_hereReality:  IRC
20:08.11dromOR have a version of this: http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/auto-9gag-1767158.jpeg
20:08.25dromugh, I linked a 9gag image
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20:10.32Zillafire101Hello everyone.
20:10.38Wormy_semi_herestill funny do
20:10.41The_RandomnessHello
20:10.42Wormy_semi_herehi
20:10.49GhelHello.
20:11.46dromey
20:13.02dromTek0516 The_Randomness Techno Wormy_semi_here: http://i.imgur.com/1gF1j.jpg
20:13.37The_Randomnesslol
20:17.06Wormy_semi_heredrom https://lispmachine.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/chart-luke-welling.jpg
20:25.13The_Randomnesslol, Java's at the very bottom
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20:32.33SomeGuyOfPolanDzieńdobrywieczór.
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20:40.18GD12Hi
20:40.59Monethi
20:41.04The_RandomnessHello
20:41.11OluapPlayerHi
20:41.28GhelHello.
20:41.40SomeGuyOfPolanHow long did you try to resolve this word?
20:43.22SomeGuyOfPolanThat's the lesson #6 of Polan Lang: Dzieńdobry - Good Morning, + wieczór - evening. So it's Goodmorningevening, suitable for all times of day.
20:44.17SomeGuyOfPolanCya tomorrow!
20:44.25GhelOkay, bye.
20:44.26The_Randomnessbye
20:44.35The_RandomnessBut when can I into polan?
20:44.43GhelAnd there I was going to comment that we also have a word in English that's suitable as a greeting for all times of day.
20:44.46Ghel"Hi".
20:45.14The_RandomnessHeh
20:46.38OluapPlayerWho the hell was that even
20:46.52The_Randomnesshe was polan man
20:47.35dromThe_Randomness: That chart is so accurate
20:48.31The_RandomnessJava feels like a lazy version of C++ when I use it
20:48.38dromAlso I can recitate if C# were a car, in my experience; C# is a fancy sports car, but it has no engine - and has to be towed by a tow truck, restricted to a railroad.
20:49.04The_Randomnessheh
20:49.15The_RandomnessI don't have to deal with memory management myself, but the syntax is almost identical to C++
20:49.37dromExcept that NullPointers makes it explode
20:49.51The_Randomnessyeah, love that error
20:50.35dromFor C++, null pointers are dangling pointers iirc. So that means; that it is a car, with no parking brake.
20:51.32dromAssembly language? YOU are the car.
20:51.48The_Randomnesspretty much
20:51.52The_RandomnessFrom what I've heard
20:52.24The_RandomnessI've heard Pascal is actually a really cool language
20:52.39dromJavaScript: A golf-car pimped beyond recognisation, but it is still a goddamn golf-car.
20:53.42The_RandomnessI've just heard that JavaScript is absolutely awful
20:54.00dromPython: A electrified car for children
20:54.59dromCOBOL: Steam-driven vehicle, back in time when it was a good idea.
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20:55.24JepardiHi
20:55.32dromForthran: A car with a GPS-advisor that SHOUTS at you.
20:56.08The_RandomnessIsn't Fortran the first high level language?
20:57.04The_RandomnessAnd basically the only reason why it's still around is because of old devices
20:57.04dromProbably. But it appeared after Assembly and Flow-matic
20:57.08dromhttp://blog.josephwilk.net/rhetorical-programming/why-are-you-shouting-programmer.html
20:57.47dromModern Forthran no longer enforce capitalized code.
20:58.02The_RandomnessInteresting
20:58.47dromLISP: A car that breaks every entry of the car safety regulations.
21:00.45dromPHP: A car that is easy to use and learn driving with, but it breaks some of the car safety regulations and has alien functions.
21:01.46dromCOBOL is the most evil thing I've ever heard.
21:02.41dromI pity my parents. For they used alongside with Forthran to write and work with it back in time when they were software developers.
21:03.18The_RandomnessWhat sort of language is cobol?
21:04.34dromThe full name "Computer Object Business-Oritented Language" can tell you.
21:04.47The_Randomnessah
21:04.55The_Randomnessthat last half though
21:06.19dromI'm wrong
21:06.26dromThe actual name is: "common business-oriented language"
21:07.42The_RandomnessThat's an interesting name for a language
21:08.26dromIt was mainly used to process transactions, finansical data and enterprise-scale batch and data-processing
21:08.48The_RandomnessAh
21:10.49dromBut the language itself is too verbose so it mainly exists as a support for legacy machines and systems.
21:15.50Wormy_semi_hereMEL feels like a steamwagon in comparison to Python or JS, as it is non-OOP and scripts are 10 pages long
21:22.18Wormy_semi_hereI had to create a script that imports PDB files from the Protein Data Bank into Maya, building up the molecular structure.  It was extremely laborious and only half worked
21:26.00dromReminds me of trying to learn a new language by unconventionally rewritting an app written in an other language
21:26.29dromIn this instance, this was the web app I finished writing the first public revision
21:26.59dromJava -> Dart
21:28.08Wormy_semi_hereThis is what I'm kind of doing.  I'm following "Nature of Code" book but doing it in JS and probably Python so I can work it into Maya and have nice emergent patterns
21:28.13dromDart is a scripting language that works like Java; PHP, LUA, Ruby and Python, just feed it into the language's VM program and bam! You got it running in matter of seconds.
21:28.37Wormy_semi_hereor three.js and put it on the web
21:29.03dromThe best part of it is that you can feed it into the sdk's JS-translator and it has JIT-support.
21:29.28dromThe output JS file is all perfect and flawless.
21:30.10dromIn fact I'm impressed that it loaded and kicked up very fast compared to when I lanuched it from the IDE.
21:30.58dromhttp://rlv.zcache.com/works_on_my_machine_classic_round_sticker-r56ce1cc314be46efbe749e9c58c761d5_v9waf_8byvr_512.jpg
21:31.25dromJust programmer things
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21:39.58Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/The_Halcyon_Scheme#Lyrebird_Feathers - New section of Cyr's and my story.
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21:43.43PrimiusEy m8s
21:43.51The_RandomnessHello
21:44.08PrimiusVincent can we continue our titanpad?
21:44.15GhelHello.
21:45.11Wormy_semi_hereI'll read it later
21:46.59PrimiusWormy, can we do a civ/primfed fic?
21:49.10Wormy_semi_hereNot right now.  You need to arrange roleplays with me.
21:50.14Wormy_semi_hereI could do one in the next couple of days.
21:50.35Wormy_semi_hereI don't know about tomorrow, I'll probs be out at this time.
21:52.44dromGoddamnit I forgot to talk impy about the NTA-NS relations
22:02.04dromThe "isToday()" function in my clock is working!
22:02.13dromNow I can finally go to bed now.
22:05.48Tek0516O.o
22:13.23Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11825648_1610934905821655_8095830371731877324_n.jpg?oh=4c99ae0a905bfd4b27995303e7723147&oe=5645A060
22:14.09The_Randomnesswtf
22:14.31The_RandomnessThat's the strangest thing I've seen this week I think
22:15.43HachimanYou haven't seen the post of the Brony keeping a MLP toy in a jar full of suspicious substances then
22:16.20The_Randomnessmust unthink
22:22.12Zillafire101O_o
22:24.13HachimanWhere did the Orcs in The Lord of the Rings go to learn?
22:24.18HachimanUruk High
22:24.47The_Randomnessdat pun
22:25.55Zillafire101Olol.
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22:43.22CyrannianNight folks
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23:28.46DrodoEmpireHi everyone
23:37.24HachimanHello

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