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00:02.47OpelSpeedsterTechnobliterator: To be fair, the UNO is not really that bad
00:05.05Liquid_InkIt's better than that attempt to compliment it.
00:05.50TechnobliteratorHaha, thanks Liquid
00:06.16TechnobliteratorI was referring more to other fiction pages, though, many of which are bloated
00:06.26TechnobliteratorAnyways, time to sleep, gnight
00:07.53Liquid_InkGoodnight.
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11:51.49MonetHello
11:52.01GhelHello.
11:56.15MonetStill trying to work out how but bees to me seem kinda cute in macro-shots.
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12:15.46GhelHello.
12:16.56AdmiralPandaMonet: You mean as in a close-up shot?
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12:18.50Wormy_hi
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12:19.26Wormy_Lol, had my first supermarket delivery > detergent leaks over the half the shopping
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12:26.57HachimanHai
12:27.08GhelHello.
12:29.47Wormy_hi
12:30.28OluapPlayer~cuddle Hachiman
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12:32.01Hachiman<3
12:34.24Wormy_Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/b9X4T
12:36.27Hachiman"And he ejaculates on EVERYTHING"
12:37.05Wormy_OluapPlayer:  http://i.imgur.com/X74XqWs.gif
12:37.36OluapPlayerSeen
12:38.13Wormy_The Starfish King http://i.imgur.com/ATi816N.gif
12:58.48Wormy_I typed in "biggest starfish" into google images.  Wish I didn't
13:06.57HachimanOh?
13:09.01Wormy_Brought up images of obese men's arses
13:11.35Hachimanolol
13:19.02Wormy_But but but.  Are they edible?  http://phys.org/news/2015-04-blueberry-species-colombian-forests.html#nRlv
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13:43.02HachimanHai Imp
13:47.22MonetAdmiralPanda: Yes (wasn't looking at the IRC)
13:52.24HachimanWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQkVqno-uI Second part
14:01.17Wormy_<PROTECTED>
14:01.44Wormy_<PROTECTED>
14:02.22Wormy_Hachiman:  Great, that channel is brilliant and more original
14:02.48Wormy_Hm I've not had good luck today have I?
14:03.09Wormy_[13:19] <Wormy_> Lol, had my first supermarket delivery > detergent leaks over the half the shopping
14:03.28Wormy_Actually I suppose being given it back was good luck
14:13.54HachimanI wonder what would happen if you threw several neutron stars into one another
14:19.39Wormy_If enough of the mass combined, it would collapse into a black hole
14:19.58Wormy_But my guess is that some would be ejected
14:20.49Wormy_It would also create enormous gravitational waves
14:22.10Wormy_There's a possibility it might create quark stars, or even electroweak stars if enough radiation pressure prevented collapse.
14:23.10GhelGravitational waves should will certainly be produced by neutron stars which collide due to their orbits decreasing, but I'm not so sure about the case of tem simply smashing into each other from a distance (like a galaxy-sized partice collider).
14:24.45GhelAnd if their combined masses are heavy enough to form a black hole, then I would assume the whole process happens too quickly to allow anything to escape (bearing in mind the neutron stars' surface gravities are huge in the first place), but it has at least been suggested that neutron star collisions are responsible for some gamma-ray bursts.
14:26.35GhelIf they can form a quark or electroweak star, then that doesn't form an event horizon so perhaps some matter could escape.
14:35.06Wormy_I just remembered
14:35.18Wormy_The idea of a "kerr loop"
14:36.04Wormy_Arrange a group of spinning neutron stars into a tightly packed ring.  Their mass and angular momentum will collapse into a spinning ring-shaped singularity
14:45.04Wormy_Or rather, their spin will increase as they collapse anyway
14:50.33Wormy_Hachiman:  Lots of curious diagrams for Interstellar http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--xJKIg4Jr--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ovhksy5qlesslilfebpv.png  http://i.imgur.com/tiRaZD3.jpg
14:53.14HachimanJesus
14:54.03Wormy_This is what I find is pretty cool http://phys.org/news/2015-02-interstellar-technology-black-holes.html
14:59.09Wormy_What the hell
14:59.24Wormy_" When an unsuspecting student inserts a blood soaked alientampon and mutates into a murdering monster, a group of students unite their forces in order to confront her with weapons and courage"  http://movieweb.com/movie/alientampon/
15:00.29Wormy_Other than the Martian, 2015 looks a little dry in the area of speculative SF films
15:03.57HachimanJesus
15:10.01Wormy_This could be quite funny, actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixels_(2015_film)
15:31.37ImperiosHiya
15:31.40ImperiosJepardi: https://static.ylilauta.org/files/16/orig/ph1uld04/mongolit.jpg
15:32.35HachimanMongolian?
15:33.01ImperiosFinnish
15:33.17HachimanBut
15:33.23HachimanFinnish people are not even Asian
15:36.31ImperiosThat's the point the picture is trying to make, Finnish people are European geographically but they have a smidge of Oriental features due to the fact that their ancestors came from somewhere near Ural
15:37.14HachimanUral
15:37.17HachimanIs that not Russia
15:37.36Imperios...Yeah it kinda is
15:37.55ImperiosWe have some Finno-Ugric people - not Finns but, like, related
15:38.15ImperiosCarelians, for example, they're right here
15:38.19HachimanWell then if they are pseudo-Russian then they are not really Asian hur
15:39.03ImperiosUral is not exactly Europe either
15:39.04ImperiosWell
15:39.14ImperiosUral is the *goddamn line that separates Europe and Asia*
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15:40.31ImperiosIt's not really ancestral Russian homeland, that would actually be what is now Ukraine probably
15:42.38ImperiosThe native peoples of Ural are Turkic and, well, Finno-Ugric
15:43.29TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, what namespace is The Skewer in
15:43.31Technobliterator?
15:50.00OluapPlayerCaptain
15:50.26Technobliteratoralright
15:50.28ImperiosHachiman: http://orig03.deviantart.net/d897/f/2012/130/e/9/warhammer__the_age_of_strife__near_the_end_by_quantumbranching-d4z9gqq.png
15:50.47TechnobliteratorAll instances of The Skewer to Shu'rahkavarh or just links?
15:50.58HachimanOh cool
15:51.03Imperios"Destroyed in the early days of the Age of Strife, nobody even remembers the name of this long-extinct nation."
15:51.04ImperiosEh
15:51.20HachimanI love pre-spacefaring Imperial stuff like the Unification Wars hur
15:53.46ImperiosI would like to have a movie about it
15:54.01ImperiosIt would be a *perfect* way to begin a 40k film franchise
15:54.23HachimanAye
15:54.50TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, the bot is replacing all instances of "The Skewer" and "the Skewer" with "Shu'rahkavarh" atm, hopefully that's what you wanted
15:55.00TechnobliteratorI can use revertbot if you only want the linsk changed or anything
15:55.07HachimanAnd we would get to see the Thunder Warriors in action
15:55.10OluapPlayerThat's what I want
15:55.10ImperiosAye
15:55.15TechnobliteratorSweet
15:55.24HachimanOf which either GW or Forgeworld need to make revised and updated models for them
15:57.35HachimanSince Forgeworld prides itself on Horus Heresy miniatures then I can see them making really good Thunder Warrior miniatures
15:59.09HachimanAlthough of course if a *true* Warhammer 40k movie was ever made it would give a brief two minute introduction to how shitty Terra was prior to the Unification Wars, glorify the Emperor and his Space Marines, and then probably be set during the Horus Heresy
16:02.02HachimanIf anything I would like to see movie treatment of the Eldar
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16:04.24TechnobliteratorI feel like WH40K doesn't work in a movie setting
16:04.31ImperiosEvent Horizon anyone?
16:04.42TechnobliteratorThe lore is  just far, far too rich for them to tell a story in 2 and a half hours
16:04.51OluapPlayerSevere lack of Xho
16:05.05TechnobliteratorAnyone who isn't a fan of WH40k already will be completely left out of enjoying the film
16:05.21OluapPlayerThat can be said about any franchise
16:05.21ImperiosDidn't hurt LotR, the trick is taking a small part of the narrative, presumably its very beginnning
16:05.28ImperiosHorus Heresy, Great Crusade, etc
16:05.28TechnobliteratorNot necessarily
16:05.37HachimanThat is like saying anyone who was not already a fan of Mad Max will not enjoy the newest Mad Max installment
16:06.03TechnobliteratorI feel like you'd have to explain much more about WH40K for someone to really connect with the film, to know what's going on, and 2 hours isn't enough time
16:06.20TechnobliteratorStar Trek, you can easily explain at least the premise in 2 and a half hours
16:06.44ImperiosDepending on the time period
16:06.51ImperiosIf there is proper introduction, you can muster it
16:07.09TechnobliteratorBut WH40K, okay, you can explain Marines vs Chaos Marines or something, then you'd leave out the Tau, the Orks, the Eldar, etc, I just don't think you can fit in that many into a film that people can understand and doesn't feel disjointed
16:07.43TechnobliteratorEven then, you'd be explaining the story of Blood Ravens or Ultramarines, not both, vs Chaos
16:08.06TechnobliteratorWith books? That works fine, because you can write several different novels about particular subjects; I just do not feel that it works well for a film
16:08.11TechnobliteratorI'd love them to prove me wrong, though
16:08.14HachimanMarvel manages just fine
16:08.25TechnobliteratorI wouldn't argue it does so that well
16:08.28HachimanSeveral films set in the same universe with completely different storylines
16:08.39TechnobliteratorAvengers feels horribly disjointed to anyone who hasn't seen the previous films
16:08.56TechnobliteratorAnd those films serve more or less as different prequels to Avengers
16:09.28ImperiosLike with Marvel, you don't have to take the whole franchise
16:09.30ImperiosAt least at once
16:09.50TechnobliteratorBut if you don't do that, then you're excluding a lot, and people would not be happy about that
16:10.23HachimanBut I reckon that many WH40K fans, including myself, would prefer they focus on a more specific part of the narrative rather than try and encompass everything and make a mess of things
16:10.27TechnobliteratorThere's a difference when you have lots of videogames set in the franchise' lore, and lots of novels, but unless they make multiple films, a single film for the franchise do not work
16:10.35TechnobliteratorWell, maybe so
16:10.42TechnobliteratorBut it'd be difficult to please that many people with a film
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16:12.12HachimanA series would probably be better than a film franchise however
16:12.32ImperiosMovies + TV series would be a best scenario I believe
16:12.36HachimanAye
16:12.47Technobliteratorbtw, Oluap, if you're expanding all your fiction pages, would that include Rogue Boyz and BCN ones? I could do those for you if you want
16:12.57Technobliteratoris nearly finished with exams and has done half of them todaty
16:13.12Imperios*the best
16:13.36ImperiosThen again there is the problem of rabid fans complaining about the inevitable changes in fluff that the movie would entail hur
16:13.41OluapPlayerI have no plans to work on those pages
16:13.56HachimanA Warhammer 40k series that encompasses storylines in a similar manner to how Game of Thrones manages to encompass its various expanding and evolving storylines would be fantastic
16:13.58OluapPlayerMy priority is fiction created solely by me
16:15.18HachimanAlthough undoubtedly such a series would require a *lot* of funding given the stylistic aesthetic of Warhammer 40k
16:17.21ImperiosThat's why I think a film set on Earth would succeed
16:17.34HachimanAye
16:17.47OluapPlayerearth a shit
16:17.49ImperiosA more relateable setting, a nice way to set up the franchise, and not a lot of money
16:17.49OluapPlayerwher da orkses at
16:18.01MonetThe Tau could be omitted from an exposition intro
16:18.20ImperiosAlso, Mad Max-esque aesthetics
16:18.31HachimanOr if a film series was to follow the exploits of say Ciaphas Cain or Gaunt's Ghosts
16:18.32MonetHistorically they've only been around since the last millennium
16:19.07HachimanA Ciaphas Cain cinematic series could be the next Pirates of the Caribbean hur
16:19.16MonetAnd even then, 3/4 of the Imperium probbly dont't know the Tau exist.
16:19.39HachimanMonet: A large part of the Imperium does not even know Orks, Chaos, or Eldar exist let alone Tau
16:19.41MonetOr if they do, they're seen as yet another hostile alien
16:19.55MonetHachiman: Except Orks are everywhere
16:20.00OluapPlayerneeds movie wiv da orks krumpin da humies
16:20.07OluapPlayerfreebotas of da eye of terra
16:20.22HachimanYou underestimate how many under-educated worlds there are within the Imperium's borders
16:20.32HachimanThat have never seen a xenos before it is too late
16:20.45MonetOKay then.
16:20.54MonetPerhaps the Tau are even less well-known than Orks
16:21.09HachimanTau are less well-known than the Orks, they are far more obscure and recent
16:21.09MonetSIce you can only really find Tau on the far corner of the Eastern Fringee
16:22.28MonetMovies being a visual medium could help here
16:22.29ImperiosHachiman: TAU ARE BLIND AND HAVE UDDERS
16:22.43OluapPlayerhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4d/Zua-Zaoi_Image.png/revision/latest?cb=20150604162224 bzz bzz
16:22.44HachimanORKS ARE ROUGHLY AS STRONG AS AN AVERAGE HUMAN
16:22.49Technobliteratorwll
16:22.51Technobliteratorwell
16:22.58Technobliteratorif you don't have plans to work on them, that's more reason for me to do it
16:23.00Technobliterator:P
16:23.03HachimanOluapPlayer: Ooh I like it
16:23.21HachimanHextapedal insectoid space barbarians hur
16:23.38HachimanAlso I cannot get over how cool those horns are hur
16:24.23MonetPerhaps a narrator gives an overview to scenes of said aliens and threats in action
16:24.39drom_Funny how Mad Max reminds me of Carmageddon
16:25.43HachimanI would say a Warhammer 40k series with GoT-style narrative technique yet done in the style of say a Marvel/DC cartoon could be quite promising, if a bit disappointing but then funding
16:25.50HachimanOr Avatar
16:26.16Imperios"But everything changed when the Emperor attacked"
16:27.14HachimanWell imagine how much it would cost to render a group of Space Marines, let alone a Primarch or two, with photorealistic CGI
16:27.22HachimanOr practical effects
16:27.57HachimanAnd then add in everything else beyond the Imperium
16:28.57Wormy_Do you think Warhammer lore will ever go past the Emperor's death?
16:29.04Wormy_40K of course
16:29.31ImperiosHachiman: There was that recent movie
16:29.34Wormy_His machine is malfunctioning and no-one can remember how to fix it
16:29.37ImperiosJupiter Ascending or something
16:29.41ImperiosThe aesthetics are pretty similar
16:29.45HachimanWell it is confirmed in canon that the Golden Throne is failing which equates to the Emperor losing his life support
16:29.58HachimanImperios: That is true but I heard that movie was pretty meh from a narrative standpoint
16:30.12HachimanAnd a lore standpoint as well
16:30.17ImperiosNot meh, but actually bad in the "so bad it's good" way
16:30.23MonetJupier Ascending was one damn shiny turd.
16:30.39HachimanYou could argue the same justification for Transformers
16:30.51HachimanWhich is why everyone goes and sees the movies whenever they come out
16:31.06OluapPlayerThe lore won't progress
16:31.21OluapPlayerUnless they decide to do what they did with Warhammer Fantasy and end the setting
16:31.54HachimanYeah what people need to understand regarding Warhammer 40k is that unlike Warhammer Fantasy, it is not a story or conjoint narrative
16:32.03HachimanIt is a *setting* with lots of background
16:32.23ImperiosHachiman:  It's essentially Transformers for women from what I've heard
16:33.52HachimanIf anything, Michael Bay working on a Warhammer 40k movie would actually be an improvement considering he cannot possibly do worse regarding narrative and character development than Games Workshop themselves can
16:34.28OluapPlayerI've never actually watched a Michael Bay movie
16:34.37OluapPlayerMostly because I don't watch movies in general
16:34.47ImperiosHachiman: He should make a movie about Orks
16:34.51ImperiosSpecifically, Ork Meks
16:35.40OluapPlayerTransformers, Ork Mekboy edition
16:35.43TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, you are lucky then
16:35.45Technobliterator:p
16:35.45Hachimanhur
16:35.53dromI've got myself an idea... and I need names of 14 races. I've already put in 10.
16:35.55OluapPlayerOptimus Gargant
16:36.02HachimanPeter Jackson works on a movie for Eldar
16:36.07HachimanMichael Bay for Orks
16:36.12TechnobliteratorI don't watch movies much either, because I feel watching movies is boring without friends
16:36.38TechnobliteratorI can only watch a film when out with friends at the cinema or at someone's house
16:36.40OluapPlayerI stopped watching television and movies after I became locked into the internet
16:36.48Technobliteratormore or less same here
16:37.32HachimanEh I still have interest in movies and TV, like with Game of Thrones and any scifi or action films that come out and such
16:37.56OluapPlayergame of dums
16:37.59MonetI really *really* need to start watching Thrones.
16:38.01Hachimanfukk off
16:38.09Imperios^ what Oluap said
16:38.19ImperiosMe, I watch period pieces and that
16:38.44HachimanStuff without violence or science fiction tends to bore me if anything
16:38.56ImperiosPeriod pieces have violence hur
16:39.11OluapPlayerEdgy fagit
16:39.15Hachimannon
16:39.15ImperiosI currently watch that Korean dorama about the Imjin War and the Russian series about Catherine the Great
16:39.32ImperiosThe latter features Catherine's glorious naked ass BTW
16:39.33HachimanI like emotional struggles coinciding with physical ones
16:39.40MonetEww
16:39.50ImperiosMonet: Eww?
16:39.55HachimanSounds like a series I need to catch up on
16:39.59HachimanAlso Monet confirmed for gay
16:40.42MonetYeah yeah lol
16:41.30HachimanAlso I cannot see how you complain about Game of Thrones when you admit that Catherine the Great practically *was* Game of Thrones
16:41.34OluapPlayerget off da computer sarec
16:41.40HachimanAs in, copious sex and violence hur
16:41.54ImperiosThatg's funny because Catherine's husband is portrayed as kinda gay in the series
16:42.05HachimanGay or underheel
16:42.37ImperiosThere is a scene where she basically stands naked before him and he is doing mock military drills
16:43.39ImperiosAlso, since Peter III was obsessed with Prussia IRL, there he is portrayed as obsessed with Frederick the Great
16:43.49MonetCatherine - LOVE MY BODY!         Peter III - That is some fine in-line marching.           Caatherine - >:(
16:44.15HachimanI like how we move onto this from a discussion about Warhammer 40k media
16:44.40HachimanWhich reminds me, WH40K needs to bring more attention towards badass women that are not Sisters of Badass
16:44.47HachimanBattle even
16:44.57MonetFreudian slip lol
16:45.13ImperiosSpeaking of Freudian slips
16:45.16dromAnd now I need the names of 5 races.
16:45.21Hachiman"Badass" and "Sister of Battle" do not really fit in the same sentence honestly
16:45.27OluapPlayerBut why should they focus on women when their main chars are all huge bara men
16:45.34ImperiosYaoihammer
16:45.44OluapPlayerB-brother-captain-kun
16:46.07ImperiosActually come to think about it
16:46.07Hachiman>Ciaphas Cain    >Ibram Gaunt     >All main chars are huge bara men        >Favourites Orks
16:46.38OluapPlayerr u sayin dats a bad thing
16:46.41HachimanOrks are like the most homosex faction in Warhammer 40k barring Slaanesh cultists who are just omnisex/polysex if anything
16:46.43OluapPlayerbig bara green men
16:46.55OluapPlayerOrks can't be homosex
16:47.00OluapPlayerThey have no concept of sex at all
16:47.07ImperiosThey're just homo
16:47.31MonetTHey're all dudes though
16:47.38OluapPlayerThey also hate each other as much as they hate everyone else. So if anything, they're all homophobes
16:47.46HachimanA race of muscular men who do little more than wrestle with their big, green exposed bodies and like to shout and chant and push around smaller, more effeminate nude green men
16:48.08MonetHachiman: ...That. Is. Genius!
16:48.15ImperiosYou
16:48.21ImperiosYou just ruined Orks for me hur
16:48.28ImperiosActually now it makes sense
16:48.38ImperiosValhallans are specialised at killing Orks
16:48.42ImperiosValhallans are Space Russian
16:48.45Imperios...
16:48.48OluapPlayer>big, green exposed bodies            >not wearing the biggest and spikiest armor available
16:48.54OluapPlayerThose ain't orks those are grots
16:49.16MonetCept the grots are the smallest and wimpiest
16:49.17ImperiosThere is an ofificial model of an ork shaman with nipple piercing
16:49.24ImperiosOkay, that's Fantasy, but still
16:49.32HachimanEven with big spiky armour most Orks are depicted as showing off their wondrous biceps hur
16:49.39MonetIMperios: David Bowie: The Ork
16:49.53ImperiosDavid Bowie is not an ork, he's a grot
16:49.57ImperiosA grot king
16:50.07HachimanReminds me of the Night Goblin Warboss
16:50.34Imperios...Did anyone get the reference BTW
16:50.37MonetImperios: Grot-like everywhere but his dick lol
16:50.42HachimanAye I di
16:50.44Hachimando even
16:50.53MonetAnd now I get the joke
16:51.09HachimanSkarsnik, Warlord of the Eight Peaks
16:51.11drombleh, I'll just fill the last slot with Imperios' Althar
16:51.33Imperiosdrom: Wait, what are you even talking about hur
16:51.48MonetRandom tangeant: Looking at Alternate Histery Hub makes me wonder how many realise how hard it is to become a superpower.
16:52.11MonetI can understand why people make superpowers but....
16:52.23dromImperios: Doing a silly thing with Brant Steele's simulator
16:52.28MonetYeah there's a reason there's only ever been a few.
16:52.42HachimanEh I dunno
16:52.46HachimanIt was easy sailing for Japan
16:53.17MonetThere's one that has Sparta become greater than Rome.
16:53.48HachimanThey went from a reclusive and isolated island divided by clan-states to an east Asian superpower within less than a century or so
16:54.01HachimanMonet: I would love to have seen a Sparta-dominated Greece hur
16:54.01drom"The Dark Loron, The Taa, The Zazane, and The Xhodocto form a suicide pact, killing themselves."
16:54.04dromThat was quick
16:54.45MonetHachiman: It would have required Philip of Macedon to accept Spartans leading the League of Athens.
16:54.54ImperiosIt would be quite corrupt I imagine
16:55.00ImperiosCorrupt and expansive, similar to Russia
16:55.32HachimanIf I recall, the Spartans were prohibited from leading the League due to being too proud and vainglorious
16:55.51MonetAnd they had demanded "we lead or we don't join"
16:56.31HachimanYeah as impressive a state Sparta was, a lot of Spartan politicians seemed to be assholes hur
16:56.43ImperiosSparta was kinda corrupt as a state
16:57.13ImperiosIt was essentially a military aristocracy/oligarchy, meaning that it was kinda ossified as a state
16:57.17MonetTHey were allies of Rome during the latter's wars with Carthage. Then Rome stormed all of Greece after Carthage was left ot burn
16:57.20OluapPlayerhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c1/Chaos_Marigrax.png/revision/latest?cb=20150604020334 also made a new picture of Marigrax
16:57.31OluapPlayeri'd update his model but he appears like this in too many pictures
16:57.40HachimanAye check out pimped Marigrax
16:57.54MonetOluapPlayer: I was always curious what the "chaos" prefix meant
16:57.59ImperiosThey see me glowing
16:58.01ImperiosThey hating
16:58.10OluapPlayerChaos -> infused in Chaos Energy
16:58.12Wormy_Looks like a B movie! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfZLTnaDHo
16:58.22MonetOluapWorker: Damn...
16:58.35OluapPlayerThat's how the Corruptus was revived during the Annihilation
16:58.45OluapPlayerThe Xhodocto pimped them up with some Chaos Energy
16:59.25MonetQuite the upgrade
16:59.38HachimanWormy_: A movie about killer wasps sounds like the most horrifying thing
16:59.56dromI know this is pretty watered out and uninteresting. But I'll just leave it here: http://i.imgur.com/BCR2pGx.png
17:00.09MonetImperios Hachiman: So for an Empire of Sparta would require all of the Leage of Athens to comply with Sparta's bigheadedness
17:00.11Wormy_yep
17:00.39HachimanIf only Sparta could compete with the rest of Greece on a military level
17:01.32MonetAs capable as they were as soldiers, it was the sheer size of the Roman army that unified the country.
17:01.52HachimanI mean Sparta had the most prominent military of the Greek city-states if I recall yet I doubt they had enough military potential to challenge a combined of the other Greek states
17:02.04Hachimancombined front even
17:02.29MonetHachiman: The same situation was what prevented any of the Italian city states achiving total victory uring the renaissance
17:02.39Monetduring*
17:02.58MonetToo many fronts for one small nation to prevail in.
17:03.04Monetat all of them*
17:03.10HachimanOne scenario I would like to envision is what would happen to a Korea that remained unified
17:03.54HachimanWhether it would lean more towards the communist or capitalist equation
17:04.33MonetEither the United States or Russia would pull out of the treaties that split Korea, or Japan never invades it for the farmland.
17:04.50Monetthose are two possible ways I can think of that could have happened.
17:06.22HachimanOluapPlayer: Nice work on the Zua-Zaoi history section
17:06.37HachimanAlso holy shit the Zua-Zaoi had not received an edit since 2013 prior to now
17:08.03MonetActually Japan's situation, when compared to England and Italy, I am starting ot see the plausability of agri-worlds.
17:08.08OluapPlayerThey've been neglected for a very long time
17:09.09MonetAt it's height, something like 1/4 to 1/2 (needs verification but it was a massive figure) of the grain that was sold in the city of Rome all came from Africa.
17:09.31HachimanFucking how
17:09.52MonetThe Nile.
17:09.54HachimanAfrica of the modern era is almost useless for farming
17:10.08HachimanWhich is why so many people live in poverty and poor conditions
17:11.02MonetBecause of the ravages of colonialism
17:11.24MonetColonists who moved to Africa were drawn by fertile soil in areas like Tunisia and the Nile
17:12.55MonetThose two places in particular had such lucious soil they were the foundations of the Carthaginian and Egyptian empire's repsectively.
17:13.17HachimanHm fair enough
17:13.34HachimanI tend to forget that deserts are not just sand exclusively
17:13.41MonetAfrica became known as "the breadbasket of the empire".
17:15.14MonetJapan and Itally are rugged territories. Not gerat land for large tracts of farmland. As a result, both countries, when they built their empires, became rather dependant on importing food from conquered coastlines that were more expansive and not as mountainous.
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17:15.45HachimanFucking eugh
17:16.21MonetHachiman: Japan and Itally are rugged territories. Not gerat land for large tracts of farmland. As a result, both countries, when they built their empires, became rather dependant on importing food from conquered coastlines that were more expansive and not as mountainous.
17:16.41HachimanAye that makes sense
17:16.46ImperiosThey took our metuhl
17:17.13HachimanAlthough I should note that Japan did not invade Korea and China primarily for farmland, even though such would have been significantly useful for their growing people
17:17.25HachimanWell, *attempted* to invade China
17:17.34ImperiosThey kinda did invade it
17:17.36ImperiosManchukuo
17:17.36OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Zua-Zaoi page remade
17:17.45ImperiosOr are you referring to the Imjin War
17:17.53ImperiosThat wasn't really colonialism
17:18.04MonetIt was useful yeah, but only very rarely does war or an invasion occur for a single reason.
17:18.16HachimanI am talking about the late 1500s invasions
17:18.18HachimanAlso lemme read this
17:18.29OluapPlayerF5 that
17:18.34ImperiosImjin War
17:18.41ImperiosIt was more of a series of continuous raids than anything
17:18.45ImperiosAka goddamn pirates
17:18.51Hachiman"The Zua-Zaoi are arthropod, insectoid aliens who vaguely resemble cockroaches. They sport a gray and black fur across their bodies"
17:18.53Hachiman#nope
17:19.04HachimanBugs with fur are the fucking worst hur
17:19.12Imperios...Actually wait a minute
17:19.21ImperiosIf Japan had pirates and used them in the Imjin War
17:19.25ImperiosThere could be pirate ninjas
17:20.26HachimanImperios: Following the pacification of the Samurai clans, the Shogun was left with a great number of warriors who now had no purpose in life due to being unable to switch between social classes anymore due to Ieyasu prohibiting such
17:21.23ImperiosYeah essentially a way to unify the country
17:22.38HachimanOluapPlayer: Ooh I like
17:22.51ImperiosThat was only the largest of invasions though, Korea was always under Japanese attacks, but these were normally raiders and pirates and the like
17:22.55Imperios*had always been
17:23.04ImperiosNot the actual militaryt
17:23.08HachimanPatriotic cockroach barbarians
17:23.32HachimanThe thing with the pheromones is also pretty nice, I like that
17:23.59OluapPlayergib quot pls
17:23.59HachimanThe fact they can fly now makes them significantly more terrifying than before hur
17:24.05Imperiosunquote
17:25.27OluapPlayerFew can fly for more than 5 minutes straight
17:28.09HachimanQuoted
17:28.46OluapPlayeru done gud
17:28.48HachimanI am honestly quite eager to see what you do when you redesign Vouinas
17:29.31OluapPlayer2lazi2
17:29.41Hachimanwow fuk off den kike
17:29.48OluapPlayerhur
17:30.03OluapPlayerI'm just looking for some background noise because I can't work without background noise
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17:31.54HachimanFucking internet
17:32.27Hachimanhav u tried listenin 2 mehtul moosic
17:32.48OluapPlayernot reely
17:32.56OluapPlayerI'm listening to MonHun music now hur
17:33.03Hachimandats borin
17:33.16HachimanNot even playing Witcher hur
17:33.18OluapPlayer>imblygn
17:33.30OluapPlayerIf I play Witcher, I won't be able to chat anymore
17:33.40ImperiosOluapPlayer: Quoted
17:34.11Hachiman>Geltastra mentions lions
17:34.21OluapPlayerGeltastra - breastplates, breasts, breasts...yes yes breasts
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17:34.41ImperiosHur
17:34.42Knight_AlienHello
17:34.43Hachimanhao dus a batshit loony radeon kno wat a lion is
17:34.57ImperiosHachiman: Funnily enough I made lion-like creatures for Vendespode
17:34.59OluapPlayerfuk ur nitpickin
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17:42.18OluapPlayer~dropkick Cyrannian
17:42.19infobotACTION sends Cyrannian flying like a yipping chihuahua
17:42.31Cyrannian~jump OluapPlayer
17:42.31infobotACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of OluapPlayer
17:43.19CyrannianSo, tis June so if anyone has any featured fiction suggestions, let it be known
17:43.29OluapPlayerur mum lul
17:44.48OluapPlayerWell I'll nominate the Khahurnim Elves for creatures again
17:44.49Cyrannianstfu bich
17:44.56OluapPlayerThat's all for now
17:45.06HachimanI nominate the Zua-Zaoi
17:45.32dromWormy_: You all are fucking dead http://www.three.co.uk/makeitright
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17:47.21Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/l/t1.0-9/s526x395/11406929_1394801360542919_3992443005912630452_n.jpg?oh=a193639b7e46bca35156fb9fa7d63308&oe=55EE7806 Fifty Sheds
17:47.39OluapPlayerhur
17:48.44Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:June_2015:_Featured_Creature_Poll
17:49.38dromCyrannian: Much for peace http://i.imgur.com/zsaeISN.png
17:50.03CyrannianWhat's that?
17:50.49dromYet another modified Hunger Games simulator. I did that cause I felt empty and bored.
17:51.34dromAnd that's the killcount the particants have made.
17:51.42dromYour Libertus tops it with 4 killings.
17:54.43Cyrannianrite, any other suggestions for story, empire and character?
17:55.05OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/96/PosVouinas.png/revision/latest?cb=20150604175445
17:55.06HachimanHm
17:55.23HachimanOluapPlayer: Well fuck
17:55.38HachimanThat is honestly horrifying
17:55.58dromUnfortunately not
17:57.35OluapPlayerTime to update the size chart
17:59.47CyrannianVery nice work Oluap
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18:03.01OluapPlayerhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/28/Shu%27wok_Servants.png/revision/latest?cb=20150604180141 well that was quick
18:03.29HachimanVouinas is fucking huge#
18:03.33HachimanLiterally Primarch-sized
18:04.20dromhttp://satwcomic.com/art/day-at-the-beach.png
18:22.38Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:April_2015:_Featured_Story_Poll
18:22.45CyrannianWhoops wrong one
18:22.56Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:June_2015:_Featured_Story_Poll - There we go
18:26.09Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:June_2015:_Featured_Captain_Poll
18:28.55Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:June_2015:_Featured_Empire_Poll - There, the votes will be counted tomorrow
18:40.58GhelHello.
18:43.19TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, woooooooah
18:43.21TechnobliteratorNic
18:43.23Technobliteratore
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18:57.25XhoI AM A FLYING HUMMINGBIRD
18:57.25XhoBZZZ
18:57.35OluapPlayer~slap Xho
18:57.35infobotACTION slaps Xho, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
18:57.42Xhoy u do dis
18:57.48OluapPlayerhummingbird ded
18:58.06Xhou dik
18:58.51OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Zua-Zaoi chek remade page
19:00.05XhoVouinas
19:00.07XhoJesus Christ
19:03.14OluapPlayerhoog bug
19:06.25XhoQuoted
19:07.22OluapPlayergud spu
19:07.52Xhoc:
19:08.25dromReading a thread from an user residing in Yemen
19:08.32dromAll misery and fear
19:10.26XhoThis is why you don't go to Yemen
19:13.24dromThe most interesting thing about it is how his everyday life is like there.
19:13.34dromHe lives in middle of a battlefield
19:17.29Xhohttps://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/11352434_876102522454320_1025841138_n.jpg
19:17.42OluapPlayerolol
19:17.52OluapPlayerXho Wormy_ Technobliterator: Are you available for an rp?
19:18.01TechnobliteratorYup
19:18.10Xhoyeh
19:19.36OluapPlayerwormy pls
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19:20.52ImpyDroidHi
19:21.05OluapPlayerHi
19:21.07OluapPlayerWormy_: poke
19:21.50ImpyDroidWhat is going on
19:22.22Xhoimp no understand
19:22.24ImpyDroidXho: http://i.imgur.com/m6G38lM.png That Indian song
19:22.37OluapPlayerNothing, the IRC's been dead for the last hour
19:22.49XhoImpyDroid: Holy Shiva
19:26.28dromI'll never understand Homestuck
19:26.46HachimanHomestuck = Shit
19:27.20XhoWormy_: moov u soil-eetin northerner
19:29.10Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11219528_1617873638429705_2037863484924941861_n.png?oh=e5eb305b57b80b491b65d331004e8393&oe=55EF16F3 Burns
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19:29.57OluapPlayery worm ded
19:30.24XhoNo clue
19:30.29XhoWell I'm gonna go redo a page
19:30.47XhoOne can guess what page
19:30.58XhoSomewhat unpopular character as far as I can tell
19:31.14OluapPlayersantorakh
19:31.19XhoNOOOOOOH
19:31.24OluapPlayerbrb
19:32.14XhoIt's actually Akhemazdrís I'm redoing again
19:33.07XhoJust a character I've never really managed to get quite right
19:34.56dromHachiman: That's why I won't ever ever understand it
19:37.29XhoI think I might make Akhemazdrís more enigmatic
19:37.50OluapPlayerBack
19:37.55XhoI mean not very much was written about Akhemazdrís in the Orichalcum Elf religion and he was one of the three main deities
19:38.07OluapPlayer~kick Wormy_
19:38.07infobotACTION kicks Wormy_
19:38.16XhoI might liken him to Sithis
19:39.31OluapPlayeri've already stated my opinion on him
19:39.31XhoThough when I think about it considering there's been no real contact with Akhemazdrís for over 250,000 years there wouldn't be much written about him at all
19:39.36OluapPlayerAnd I guess i'll just leave the rp for another day
19:39.49Technobliterator:/
19:40.22TechnobliteratorThis is why I let people control my characters when I'm not present for this stuff
19:40.47TechnobliteratorI can't be omnipresent so I can't always be in rps even if I really want to, but at the same time it's selfish to not allow one to take place because of me
19:40.48OluapPlayerThis section is too important to leave anyone out
19:48.41XhoI'm not sure whether I want Akhemazdrís to be popular really
19:48.57XhoHe is a character that throws contradictions into the air and an evil space god isn't really meant to be liked
19:49.21XhoMore of an unpleasant worldbuilding element
19:49.55OluapPlayerDeliberately writing an unlikeable character is not really good writing
19:50.45XhoAll I have to say is Joffrey Baratheon
19:51.19dromProblem Sleuth is however amausing
19:52.25XhoI guess he's like Caligaduro but much closer to home and much lazier
19:52.26OluapPlayerDon't know who that is
19:52.39XhoJoffrey Baratheon is a character from a Song of Ice and Fire
19:52.53XhoHe's basically a sadistic psychoting teenager king
19:52.54OluapPlayerDon't know what that is
19:52.59XhoGame of Thrones basically
19:53.01HachimanGame of Thrones
19:53.05OluapPlayerBleh
19:53.10OluapPlayerBleh to u
19:53.46XhoOf course I could always make Akhemazdrís semi-canon in the Fantasyverse
19:55.07XhoRight now it looks like Akhemazdrís is a theoretical polar opposite to Isiris...among many other deities hur
19:55.29OluapPlayerCrux is Isiris' polar opposite
19:55.59XhoHm
19:56.06XhoAlways thought Caligaduro was a polar opposite as well
19:56.46XhoI suppose that's more Caligaduro - Celestial Deities
19:57.24XhoIt makes sense in my head that Akhemazdrís is a theological outlier
19:57.37OluapPlayerYour head is your own hur
19:57.45Xhosure hope so
19:57.55Xhoi dunt want u lot pokin around in it
19:57.59OluapPlayer2late
19:58.03Xhonuh
19:58.12XhoI dunno
19:58.36XhoI guess what I'm trying to say is that acknwoledging Akhemazdrís' possible existence is as far as one needs to go
19:58.45XhoI guess it's just like any other deity
19:58.49XhoYou either believe in them or not
19:59.06dromWormy_: http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Gravity_Brassier
19:59.25XhoEspecially one as vague and as unknown as Akhemazdrís not even the Orichalcum Elves considered him an important deity
20:01.42XhoIn that case I might make a Shadow Drake leader and disassociate them with Akhemazdris
20:04.14XhoHe's like the father no one wanted
20:04.22Xhosad god
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20:05.38Zillafire101Hello all.
20:06.02XhoHi
20:07.02Comrade_VinnyHEy!
20:07.29Technobliteratorhi there
20:07.43TechnobliteratorOluapPlayerDeliberately writing an unlikeable character is not really good writing
20:07.48TechnobliteratorI would argue that it is useful in some cases
20:07.56TechnobliteratorThen again, I have done it, so I might just be defending myself there
20:08.16OluapPlayerNot going to talk about this
20:08.24HachimanBut Vamp and Raiden were likeable in MGS4 hur
20:09.00TechnobliteratorRaiden was not deliberately likeable, he failed utterly
20:09.22TechnobliteratorThe reason is audience immersion
20:09.57TechnobliteratorWhich works particularly well in videogames
20:10.05TechnobliteratorThe more you hate a character, the more you want to see them dead
20:12.22XhoI've removed Akhemazdrís from the Source page anyway
20:13.07TechnobliteratorI think I misstepped with Lak'rajah, he was conceptually disjointed and conceptually flawed, so I'm all for no longer considering him canon
20:13.22dromTechno: Almost every story need a character built to absorb and endure dislikement and hate from readers.
20:15.11Zillafire101Yeah, like everything I create.
20:17.58TechnobliteratorLak'rajah ended up forced and annoying instead of goofy, when he was meant to be hte latter
20:18.19TechnobliteratorAw well, I am probably one of the poorer writers on the wiki
20:18.25TechnobliteratorWhich is half the reason I lost motivation
20:18.43OluapPlayerI sure as hell would not have collaborated with you as much as I did if you were a poor writer
20:19.50XhoThere's a term for worshipping against a deity though I forgot what it was
20:19.58HachimanHeresy
20:20.22XhoNo you revere a deity but only in the form of warding them off
20:20.25TechnobliteratorInfidel?
20:20.28TechnobliteratorExcorcism?
20:20.44GhelOh, the Egyptians did that, didn't they?
20:21.09XhoYeah
20:21.21Ghellooks up Apep on Wikipedia to see if the word's there
20:21.49XhoI think it's just 'worshipping against'
20:21.50GhelNope.
20:22.03GhelYes, "worshipping against" is all I can find.
20:24.13Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Akhemazdr%C3%ADs dere
20:25.14XhoOf course the worst case scenario is that Akhemazdrís is a colossal Void Denizen that rebelled against Caligaduro
20:25.16XhoNot a bad idea actually
20:25.31XhoNot actually a worst case scenario either
20:26.09XhoConsidering the Orichalcum Elves believed that Akhemazdrís was Caligaduro's first inadvertent creation it would kind of roll together
20:27.38XhoWell he'll always remain as my most unpopular character I think
20:28.01GhelSo the god of evil creates a powerful entity who then rebels against him... sort of like an anti-Satan.
20:28.31XhoPretty much
20:28.35XhoThough that's only a theory
20:29.18XhoThe Celestial Deities in general are quite vague and theoretical
20:29.32XhoThe most comfortable theory is that they're facets of Isiris
20:30.33XhoThe most uncomfortable theory is that they're facets of a sister deity to Isiris that exists in an entirely different scope
20:30.45HachimanSister deity to Isiris
20:30.49XhoBut that's beyond Koldenwelt so I'll leave it up to your interpretation
20:30.55HachimanI was gonna say
20:31.22Technobliteratoranyway, thanks, Oluap, that means a great deal coming from you
20:31.46Technobliteratorbecause I consider you one of the best writers on the wiki atm, and by far the best driving force behind a collaboration
20:32.06XhoCelestial Deities aren't really meant to be understood nor...uh
20:32.11XhoI don't know the word in English
20:32.13TechnobliteratorBut I feel like I am put to shame by most writers here
20:32.40Xhoprofundizar...
20:32.43XhoTo be gone deeply into
20:33.36TechnobliteratorI am, at best, good at concepts, but I don't have the skill that the majority of users have, like Hachi with characterisation and general writing, Cyr with page design, Xho with...well, more or less everything :  |
20:33.52Xhoget rekt nub
20:34.13XhoSeriously though the stuff you did is definitely some of the most memorable things I've done
20:34.24XhoOr contributed towards
20:34.34XhoAnd I think everyone else who has contributed towards it would agree
20:34.54OluapPlayerI did make a second and then third subrace of Lorons didn't I
20:35.16HachimanYeah, I would agree, Oluap has done some great collaborative fics
20:35.30XhoI was talking about Jo's stuff but yes Oluap as well
20:35.33TechnobliteratorI think Oluap is the best driving force behind a collaborative fiction
20:35.39OluapPlayerBorealis would probably never have worked without your fiction's participation
20:35.47XhoIn fact I think nearly every user has done something memorable
20:36.03TechnobliteratorI mean, when I think of it that way, sure
20:36.12OluapPlayerActually scratch that
20:36.17OluapPlayerBorealis wouldn't exist without your stuff
20:36.32TechnobliteratorThat's not true, I came to Borealis after you'd started it
20:36.47OluapPlayerAfter I abandoned it entirely you mean
20:37.14OluapPlayerBorealis only started having fiction in it when UNO moved to it
20:37.32TechnobliteratorWell, I recall developing the Kormacvar and Cold Relays before you'd played ME
20:37.46OluapPlayerCorrect
20:38.28TechnobliteratorWhen I reminisce like this, it doesn't seem so bad, but I think half the reason I became inactive - other than Dota, which I regret sorely : | - was that I lost confidence in myself because of how much better everyone else was, and felt like I was falling behind and no longer having fun
20:38.44TechnobliteratorI should really push myself to get caught up again
20:38.56TechnobliteratorI know I've said that before, but I really should
20:39.06OluapPlayerThat's what you should do
20:39.11OluapPlayerStop complaining and get to work
20:39.30OluapPlayerYou know everyone here will welcome you back
20:39.50Technobliteratorhm, well
20:39.54TechnobliteratorI wonder where I can start
20:39.59Technobliteratoroh, other than the Media page
20:41.38Technobliteratorokay, I'll do what you people do
20:41.41TechnobliteratorMake a to do list
20:41.45TechnobliteratorAnd cross stuff off of it
20:42.07XhoAs long as you stick to it
20:42.18XhoI made one and it looks like I'm never gonna get around to it
20:42.24OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Vouinas this is done
20:43.20OluapPlayerfukd his relations up
20:43.55OluapPlayerF5 that
20:45.42Xho>born around 1300 AD                           Vouinas - EVER HEARD OF THE PARDONER'S TALE                   I DIDN'T WRITE IT
20:46.33OluapPlayerhur
20:49.52HachimanI love it
20:50.10HachimanI like how he goes against the stereotype of being a dumb brute despite being stronger than Arrtkar
20:50.20HachimanAnd he's rather likeable as well
20:50.39OluapPlayerArrtkar - kikes all of them
20:50.52OluapPlayerHe's stronger than Arrtkar but if the two fought he'd get his ass kicked very quickly
20:51.48Xho"I am much stronger than you'll ever be! "                   Nu - nigga u ever heard of acid trip
20:52.18XhoOnly where Nu believes he's stronger than Vouinas
20:54.22OluapPlayerNu - I GOT THE POWA          POWA
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20:59.38External_Internet is BACK! YUS
20:59.59MonetHello
21:00.04OluapPlayerHi
21:00.12OluapPlayerNow all i have left is Arrtkar's page and I'll finally have expanded all the Corruptus pages
21:00.31Zillafire101Hello.
21:00.53ImpyDroidXho: Worship in terms of warding them off
21:01.07XhoWe've already figured that out
21:01.08ImpyDroidMisotheism is not exactly that but it is close
21:01.20ImpyDroidActually that is pretty much it
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21:02.56HachimanQuoted
21:03.20OluapPlayeryiy
21:03.28External_Tek0516: What device when you are "TekDroid" do you use for IRC? I used my iPod Touch before for IRC, but that sucked.
21:04.04OluapPlayerVouinas - how bout stop eatin with ir tail u gross shite
21:04.19OluapPlayerur*
21:04.42ImpyDroidSow what are you talking about outside of theology
21:04.53ImpyDroidThe proper word is misotheism btw
21:05.08Tek0516Externalizer: I use my Android phone. >. {
21:05.12HachimanI misread that as misogynism for a moment
21:05.19OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Vouinas I remade this page
21:06.11ImpyDroidHachiman: Gods' Rights Activists
21:06.58ImpyDroidYOU ALREADY COMMIT HERESY BY LOOKING AT YOUR GOD FUNNY
21:07.06ImpyDroidMY DIVINITY MY RULES
21:07.31External_Tek0516: Never use an iPod for that. Never.
21:07.44External_I think the font shown when I typed was around 5.
21:08.44Hachimanhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/81/Varugr_the_Frenzied_Lord.png/revision/latest?cb=20150604210816 Speaking of Corruptus
21:08.45ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Wow, his new portrayal is... surprisingly suave and magnetic
21:09.01OluapPlayerVarugr - ANGRI
21:09.14ImpyDroidHachiman: ...Where are the red highlights
21:09.18Zillafire101He got a pimp stick
21:09.36OluapPlayerVouinas didn't really have a portrayal before since he was the most underdeveloped servant
21:09.38HachimanAlso count how many eyes he has
21:09.55ImpyDroidHe did have red highlights didn't he
21:09.56XhoSantorakh - better be 5
21:10.04Hachimanhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9f/Varugr.png/revision/latest?cb=20130608020020 Old Varugr
21:10.09OluapPlayerVarugr was always green
21:10.14External_Hachiman: That guy looks badass.
21:10.23External_New Varygr.
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21:10.54ImpyDroidMy mind is playing tricks with me
21:10.57ImpyDroidAh well
21:10.58Wood_PulpHello everyone
21:11.03External_Skin complexion is more realistic and scaly and I love it.
21:11.05ImpyDroidHi
21:11.12External_Hey.
21:11.13HachimanSo yeah new Varugr now has armour, some more mutations, a sword, and spider eyes
21:11.14ImpyDroidBut yeah he looks nice
21:11.27XhoSantorakh - 8 is not 5
21:11.28MonetHachiman: Was going ot say does he have an eye in them iddle of his head?
21:11.34ImpyDroidI like his new mouth
21:11.36HachimanYep
21:11.39OluapPlayerI can't see any eyes
21:11.45ImpyDroidAlso is it just me or is it slightly... erm
21:11.47ImpyDroid...
21:11.49OluapPlayerBecause the picture is really fucking tiny on my end for some reason
21:12.01ImpyDroidFreudian
21:12.06MonetAnd the preview mode here http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Varugr_the_Frenzied_Lord.png is blurry
21:12.06HachimanYeah for some reason the picture will not increase in size
21:12.22OluapPlayerThat one is clearer
21:12.26OluapPlayerI see an eye on his forehead
21:12.45OluapPlayerKoluap - VORE FETISHIST
21:13.01MonetHis new tail-mouth looks sweet
21:13.02HachimanAlso those tendril things on his tail
21:13.04HachimanThey move
21:13.16OluapPlayerYou'd expect them to, he's a Corruptus demon
21:13.20MonetSo slquirmy tail
21:13.22OluapPlayerThey all have moving tendrils everywhere
21:13.28Monetsquirmy*
21:13.34HachimanImpyDroid: Are you referring to vagina dentata hur
21:13.49ImpyDroidEither that or din
21:13.51ImpyDroidDik
21:13.57ImpyDroidDik tail
21:14.23HachimanOluapPlayer: If I give you the .png would you be able to make him a better and bigger image?
21:14.33HachimanRoughly in the same style as the one in the pic I uploaded
21:14.57OluapPlayerI could try
21:15.02ImpyDroidActually, Geltastra should have a diktail
21:15.06OluapPlayerno pls
21:15.08HachimanFor some reason the one I uploaded is small
21:15.11HachimanAnd blurry
21:15.23XhoSantorakh - shu'wok man all ur servants are fetishists
21:15.33OluapPlayerShu'wok - this is not what we planned
21:15.47HachimanI still wonder why Shu'wokerama hired Varugr hur
21:15.55OluapPlayerMade me remember the time where I tried to ship Arrtkar with Telfinne
21:16.00HachimanVarugr is practically Caligula as a demon
21:17.04XhoKrath - all servants are strange                         must delete corruptusservants.exe
21:17.18ImpyDroidGeltastra - arsac     come here        I found a new use for my tentacles
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21:17.25HachimanAlso I should note that Varugr is descended both in the Corruptus and Zazane sense
21:17.29HachimanSo dual-Essences
21:17.36HachimanAnd probably access to a Demon Form
21:17.54MonetDescended form = mouths everywhere
21:17.56External__freaking...
21:18.03External__Why are there two Externals
21:18.51OluapPlayerTagutan - ur not dat special ok
21:19.05HachimanVarugr - shup three-eyes
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21:19.19MonetSarec - Look whose talking
21:19.21OluapPlayerShu'wok hired Varugr because he works through giant angry alien demon bird logic
21:19.54HachimanVarugr probably thinks he looks attractive to look at
21:20.14MonetVarugr - Chicks really dig a tail-mouth and eight eyes
21:20.26OluapPlayerGeltastra - >male         nah
21:20.45External__Seriously
21:20.51External__Why are there so many Externals?
21:21.00HachimanImperios: You should give Geltastra a mouth which extends up her abdomen and stomach
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21:21.08HachimanHi Aeo
21:21.11OluapPlayerleave gel pretty pls
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21:21.13External__Erotic...
21:21.15Aeohi
21:21.25External__Technobliterator HELP
21:21.29External__THE EXTERNALS
21:21.33Technobliterator?
21:21.50External__On my screen there are THREE Externals.
21:21.52MonetArsac - And yet only I have four wings and a tentacle tail.
21:21.57Technobliteratoreh
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21:22.13External__External_ External____ External_____
21:22.20External__External_____ now
21:22.21TechnobliteratorWhat do you want me to do about it :  |
21:22.25ImpyDroidHachiman: Wait you mean another mouth or have her actual mouth so that
21:22.30*** kick/#sporewiki [External____!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-vdsfkdkeqteemoyd] by Technobliterator (External____)
21:22.33HachimanAmpyjer ,piyj
21:22.36HachimanFuck
21:22.38HachimanAnother mouth
21:22.39*** kick/#sporewiki [External_____!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-vdsfkdkeqteemoyd] by Technobliterator (External_____)
21:22.43*** kick/#sporewiki [External__!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-vdsfkdkeqteemoyd] by Technobliterator (External__)
21:22.45OluapPlayerHoly fuck how did you manage that
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21:23.03TechnobliteratorOk, that's all of them
21:23.08MonetActually Oluap since you are the master of creepy, Any ideas for mutations for Arsac?
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21:23.18External"Puente el naranjo"
21:23.22OluapPlayerI'm flattered
21:23.24ExternalThat was my captcha.
21:23.26XhoI think you kicked the wrong one there Jo
21:23.29OluapPlayerAnd hm
21:23.32ExternalThanks technobliterator.
21:23.35*** kick/#sporewiki [External______!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-vdsfkdkeqteemoyd] by Technobliterator (External______)
21:23.38Technobliteratornp
21:24.00ExternalAnd you did kick the wrong one before. :P
21:24.00OluapPlayerShe's missing an eye isn't she?
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21:24.10MonetOluapPlayer: That's Thotus
21:24.19OluapPlayerI could swear Arsac only had one eye
21:24.28MonetOh wait she does
21:24.32MonetHer other one is robotic
21:24.33OluapPlayerdur
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21:24.54ExternalMOTHER
21:24.56OluapPlayerHave fleshy growths appear near the robot eye
21:25.03ExternalMORE MES
21:25.04OluapPlayerEither that, or several small eyes grow next to it
21:25.14ExternalThis has to be a glitch.
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21:25.25HachimanProbably your connection
21:25.31MonetThotus lost an eye but when he was corrupted I think I indicated that he ended up with a fleshy mass over the hole.
21:25.39*** kick/#sporewiki [External____!b1649b92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.100.155.146] by OluapPlayer (wibble)
21:25.41*** kick/#sporewiki [External___!b1649b92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.100.155.146] by OluapPlayer (wibble)
21:25.41ExternalI'm a virus.
21:25.42*** kick/#sporewiki [External_!b1649b92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.100.155.146] by OluapPlayer (wibble)
21:25.50OluapPlayerThis is getting annoying now
21:25.59ExternalIf another External joins.
21:26.08MonetGo home drunk you're External
21:26.14OluapPlayerhur
21:26.19Externalk
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21:26.35Externalfuking
21:26.38MonetOluapPlayer: I like the thought of smaller eyes.
21:26.43OluapPlayerRestart your browser or something
21:26.48Technobliteratoror just
21:26.49ExternalLet me leave and regoin
21:26.55MonetShe has a crapton of scars if that's any inspiration.
21:26.59XhoOh dear god this is hilarious
21:27.03XhoThat was me the entire time
21:27.04Technobliterator:  |
21:27.12*** kick/#sporewiki [Xho!b1649b92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.100.155.146] by OluapPlayer (wibble)
21:27.12HachimanOh my fucking God
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21:27.20XhoNOH
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21:27.36OluapPlayerDon't fucking do that
21:27.44External_Test?
21:27.52OluapPlayerIt was Xho using your name
21:27.57OluapPlayerYou're good to go
21:28.00External_Testfuk u
21:28.07External_Test>:(
21:28.07DrodoEmpirewat
21:28.23Technobliteratoroh, I should've known
21:28.25ExternalFunn-ish though.
21:28.34XhoI was bored and I like causing people misery
21:28.42*** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Beware Xho, the evil impersonator.
21:28.54OluapPlayerFuck off with that
21:28.55ExternalGG tech
21:28.56HachimanKick him again
21:29.01*** topic/#sporewiki by OluapPlayer -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/
21:29.03Externalnu
21:29.03GhelExternal: Originally, it was because if you don't close IRC properly (or more commonly, if you disconnect) then log back in before about four minutes have passed, then the previous log-in won't have properly logged out.
21:29.09Technobliteratordaw
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21:29.18DrodoEmpireHey
21:29.21OluapPlayerMonet: One thing you could have is have eyes pop out of the scars when she's really angry
21:29.21ExternalHey.
21:29.21Technobliteratorhi sosh
21:29.25GhelThen you asked why there were two Externals, and Xho just decided to have fun.
21:29.30SoshanimHey
21:29.34Ghel~give Soshanim a cookie
21:29.34infobotACTION gives Soshanim a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up.
21:29.44CyrannianHello!
21:29.50HachimanArsac's Eyes - u fukn wot m8
21:29.52SoshanimHey!!
21:29.55ExternalGhel: Everytime my graphics card does crap my computer freezes.
21:29.59ExternalSo that might be why
21:30.09OluapPlayerThough I'd say she shouldn't have too many mutations at this point. After all she's still a recent descension
21:30.09ExternalXho: Nice timing though.
21:30.22XhoThanks
21:30.27XhoI could have kept that going for ages
21:30.27MonetOluapPlayer: Recent and still somewhat in control
21:30.36ExternalAt least
21:30.43OluapPlayerShe does have a Vanguard tutouring her
21:30.44GhelBut next time you find multiple versions of you logging in, check the IP addresses..
21:30.46ExternalUntil someone found an I.P similarity
21:30.49OluapPlayerOr at least I assume Geltastra tutours her
21:30.52XhoI was about to say
21:31.00XhoSomeone would have sussed it out that I was doing it
21:31.14HachimanYes
21:31.14MonetEyes around her robot eye works.
21:31.21HachimanOf course that is what Geltastra does with Arsac
21:31.22Technobliteratorhm, I can't think of anyone who would do that
21:31.30External"81.100.247.75 "
21:31.35ExternalI'll keep that in mind.
21:31.46TechnobliteratorNope
21:31.52TechnobliteratorIP addresses change constantly
21:32.00TechnobliteratorIt may be different tomorrow
21:32.08MonetHachiman: Lesbo deemun sex.
21:32.09OluapPlayerI'd not have thought you were doing it because I expect you to be a civilized person
21:32.11ExternalThey do?
21:32.19GhelWhat I meant was, check the IP address isn't the same one that you logged in with.
21:32.20OluapPlayerBut I was obviously wrong u lil shit
21:32.21TechnobliteratorYes
21:32.43ExternalXho: Have fun with the sharks. C:
21:32.43GhelBut even without that, it is possible for someone other than Xho to impersonate you.
21:32.55MonetWHen I first thought about her mutations I had wondered about this happening with her eye http://static-2.nexusmods.com/15/mods/120/images/12663-2-1274094187.jpg
21:33.08TechnobliteratorI can't think of anyone who would
21:33.20OluapPlayerThat's a possibility
21:33.46MonetAlthough given her eye was sophisticated bionics, imagine that but more...organic.
21:33.59OluapPlayersquish
21:34.24MonetNow I just had this thought that any cables that sprouted could pulse
21:34.38XhoI used to do something on the IRC where I went 'bye' and then 'hello' in random succession
21:34.43XhoIt caused the IRC to explode in confusion
21:34.49TechnobliteratorOkay, once exams end, I'll probably set myself up with a to-do list for here
21:35.04OluapPlayerThey could
21:35.07TechnobliteratorAnd maybe install Spore, but I don't know how to do it from Steam without running into the same problems as before
21:35.19External"External_______"
21:35.30ExternalHow many "_"s was that
21:35.43Ghel7.
21:35.50ExternalThat was rhetorical.
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21:36.15TechnobliteratorAlso, pretty sure what we witnessed today were baby steps towards DDoS
21:36.20*** kick/#sporewiki [External________!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-vdsfkdkeqteemoyd] by Technobliterator (External________)
21:36.32External...
21:36.34GhelThat was 8.
21:36.35TechnobliteratorOkay, who did that
21:36.37Externaly
21:37.09TechnobliteratorAhah
21:37.13*** kick/#sporewiki [Ghel!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-vdsfkdkeqteemoyd] by Technobliterator (Ghel)
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21:37.19Wormy_I come back to IRC and see this.
21:37.21OluapPlayerWould you fucking stop already
21:37.24Tek0516O.o
21:37.24TechnobliteratorCaught in the act
21:37.27OluapPlayerThis is not funny
21:37.28XhoDear lord Ghel what is this
21:37.29ExternalNice ghel.
21:37.39XhoTWAS NOT EXPECTED OF YE
21:37.51XhoIt's only funny when you're doing it
21:37.56TechnobliteratorI went through all possible suspects
21:37.57ExternalI just overloaded my IRC screen with the "WHOIS" command
21:38.00OluapPlayerWormy_: Where were you all day
21:38.03Wormy_I don't know who is who at this point
21:38.15XhoI should mention I'm not actually here tomorrow
21:38.17Wormy_OluapPlayer:  Having a really bad day
21:38.18ExternalWell
21:38.21XhoNot for long anyway
21:38.34OluapPlayerWell I'm not gonna ask further
21:38.35ExternalI'm obviously the real External. All others are FAKE
21:38.45GhelAs far as I know, we're all who we say we are right now. It's only External whose had his identity stolen so far today.
21:38.58Wormy_One of those days where bad things keep mounting on you
21:39.08Ghelwho's*
21:39.08TechnobliteratorI don't see why you can't find some fun in this, given that clearly none of this is malicious, but suit yourself
21:39.12ExternalStolen around...7, 8 times?
21:39.19Wormy_Anyway, I'm slipping out again, I need to do more chores
21:39.29GhelI'd be able to tell you how many times it was if I hadn't been kicked.
21:39.50GhelBut if the largest number of underscores was seven, plus my fake eight, then eight times makes sense.
21:39.51ExternalHow many times did Xho join
21:39.52OluapPlayerIt spams the chat with useless shit
21:39.57ExternalPlus you
21:39.58OluapPlayerThat's like encouraging vandalism
21:39.59Wormy_Well, as long as the real External doesn't feel upset or his time wasted.  And this doesn't keep happening, then I can see the fun side.
21:40.17Wormy_And keep in mind other users in the chatroom
21:40.19ExternalNope.
21:40.27TechnobliteratorBut it's not vandalism if it's just for laughs
21:40.29Wormy_But I can't talk, because I can come in drunk
21:40.52XhoWell I found it funny so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5DTyNDx1L0
21:40.53Wormy_But yeah, be mindful of others
21:41.19OluapPlayerI should start telling everyone to go fuck themselves for no reason then, after all it's just for laughs
21:41.34TechnobliteratorExcept doing that is genuinely malicious to people, this is not
21:41.39Wormy_escapes the madness in epic rocketpack fashion
21:41.52OluapPlayerHow is harassment not malicious
21:41.59TechnobliteratorIf people find things funny, I do not have a problem with allowing it to continue
21:42.00OluapPlayerAre you being serious right now
21:42.06TechnobliteratorOkay, then
21:42.09Externalshoots Wormy_s rocketpack
21:42.10TechnobliteratorExternal, did you feel harassed?
21:42.15ExternalNope.
21:42.20TechnobliteratorThen it's fine
21:42.27TechnobliteratorIf you did, then there would be a problem
21:42.33TechnobliteratorAnd I would agree
21:42.46OluapPlayerFine then let's not have any moderation here
21:42.56OluapPlayerIf anything is allowed for laughs then why ahve rules at all
21:42.58TechnobliteratorThat's just being absurd
21:43.31TechnobliteratorIf this was genuinely malicious, I would agree, but the chat does not appear to be of the opinion that it is
21:43.37HachimanYeah I am finding this rather annoying as well
21:43.46OluapPlayerI'm not going to stand for this and you cannot convince me this was not a bad thing
21:44.00XhoWell I'm not gonna say anything because I won't say anything nice in this situation
21:44.27TechnobliteratorThat is not what I am trying to convince anyone of
21:44.50TechnobliteratorHowever, this discussion, on the other hand, is detrimental to the channel, so I will allow you to think what you wish
21:45.01OluapPlayerOh fuck off
21:45.19OluapPlayerMe giving my opinion on it is detrimental now
21:45.24ExternalI'd say something, but I changed my mind.
21:45.27TechnobliteratorNo
21:45.33XhoJesus Christ everyone give it a rest
21:45.33TechnobliteratorOur arguing is detrimental
21:45.37TechnobliteratorWhich is more or less my fault
21:45.43XhoPeople didn't like it
21:45.45XhoSo what
21:45.53OluapPlayerI seriously don't know why I bother sometimes
21:46.01CyrannianPerhaps we should discuss something else
21:46.05XhoPlease
21:46.29OluapPlayerThere won't be discussion because I'm out of here
21:46.50XhoIs it me
21:46.54ExternalAlright, before anyone else talks about this lets find something else to rant about, mkay?>
21:47.04XhoOr does he currently have a stick up his backside at the moment
21:47.13TechnobliteratorI'd apologize, but he probably wouldn't accept my apology
21:47.26XhoHell I'm not apologising
21:47.27ExternalTo Oluap?
21:47.31TechnobliteratorYes
21:47.44HachimanEugh
21:47.50HachimanYeah I am out
21:48.11TechnobliteratorI saw that leave coming
21:48.29TechnobliteratorThey're probably going to talk about how we all suck, but on the one hand, I can't blame them
21:49.00XhoEveryone seems to have a stick up their backside at the moment
21:49.20XhoDoesn't matter anyway I'm hardly active here
21:49.41TechnobliteratorI don't see what the big deal was if External found fun in it, and that was the only point I was trying to make
21:49.49External^
21:49.56TechnobliteratorThe other was that us arguing would not help the channel either so I was going to end the discussion
21:50.03TechnobliteratorWhich he took as me insulting him
21:50.06Externalyey im special
21:51.30XhoThat and if you're offended I seriously hope you have a cup of man the fuck up next to you
21:52.12XhoAh I just remembered why I'm not an admin any more
21:52.13TechnobliteratorI didn't see the need to be so anti-fun, but that's me. Oluap tends to not like that kind of silliness, and is a lot more uptight than me :  |
21:52.26TechnobliteratorWell, you're not because you removed your own powers
21:52.30ExternalI already said I wasn't. I don't see how anyone could be offended by what happened.
21:52.34XhoI mean the reasons behind it
21:52.37GhelOluap did give the impression that his point of view was "if we allow people to do things to people that those people don't mind, then what's to stop us allowing people to do things to people that those people do mind?"
21:53.13XhoA brain for one
21:53.39TechnobliteratorWhat's stopping us is, as I explained, that if the user actually does feel harassed, then we can stop it
21:54.06TechnobliteratorIf they do not, and people are enjoying it, then there is no need
21:55.02TechnobliteratorOh well, it doesn't help that he hasn't had a great day, so I'll leave him alone for a while and hopefully we'll mutually forget it
21:55.05TechnobliteratorShit happens
21:56.03ExternalTechnobliterator: We'll look back...probably next week and laugh.
21:56.24TechnobliteratorI won't, I don't read the logs
21:56.28TechnobliteratorI have my own logs
21:57.21XhoI have no clue why but I feel like fucking everything up entirely
21:57.25XhoThis is probably my nocturnal phase
21:57.26GhelI don't think External meant literally "we'll all get together and have a mass read-through of the logs". :P
21:58.36TechnobliteratorWe've had much worse drama on the IRC, anyway
21:58.38Technobliterator:   |
21:58.43Xho:                                       |
21:58.49Technobliterator:                                                                                 |
21:58.57Xho:|
21:59.06Ghel|:
21:59.09XhoWEREN'T EXPECTING THAT WERE YA
21:59.14XhoOkay I wasn't expecting that
21:59.25Technobliteratorhah
22:02.44External|           :
22:02.51ExternalHad to be in the moment. C:
22:04.58GhelMy |: was originally supposed to be a :| where the | had gone so far to the right it had looped around and ended up on the left.
22:05.54ExternalSo
22:06.07External:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |
22:06.56GhelNo.
22:07.15XhoOh my
22:09.23GhelAlternatively,
22:09.25Ghel|No:
22:10.42GhelWhich actually looks like a face with an o-shaped nose and a Z-shaped moustache. Or somebody kneeling on a flat surface with their arms straight out in front of them and a :o face.
22:11.06ExternalGhel, to me it looks like a |No:
22:11.29GhelThat's |too: obvious.
22:12.34GhelOkay, that doesn't really look like anything at all (except a |too:).
22:15.23GhelWell, I'm going to go now. Bye!
22:15.35Externalbai
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22:22.31Wormy_awaynick Wormy_
22:22.52Wormy_awaytest
22:23.11Wormy_You know what I find silly
22:23.29Wormy_The whole ridiculous argument after the incident
22:24.37External^
22:24.45Wormy_That is the real problem here.  No respect for reach other here anymore.  Its really not great that people are leaving and feeling alienated.  This has nothing to do with the incident, and everything to do with this total lack of coutesy
22:25.21XhoIt's because people expect life to be comfortable
22:25.27XhoOr anything to be comfortable
22:25.51Wormy_Its nothing deep really.
22:26.00Xhotis nao
22:27.30Wormy_I'm okay with people having a laugh, but this is a public chatroom, if they don't like what is going on then it there is no big reason to argue with them about it, regardless of whether they are right or wrong.  Several users felt alienated tonight.  I suppose we all do time to time, but not everyone can take it.
22:27.49Wormy_This is a perspective thing
22:28.02MonetI was happily talking and suddenly the whole channel appeared ot fall into argumentative chaos.
22:28.10MonetI feel confused
22:28.28Wormy_That's the point.  People are arguing about subjective matters.  And that won't get anywhere.
22:28.56TechnobliteratorMy issue is that I do not feel it is fair to stop or add negativity to a discussion just because you personally dislike it
22:29.10XhoExactly
22:29.14Wormy_And by stating that, you make them feel alienated.
22:29.29TechnobliteratorIt doesn't matter who it is, if the whole channel is fine with it except for you, then you can do other things than which the channel
22:29.31XhoPersonally I think people should pull the sticks out of their asses
22:29.57Wormy_It doesn't matter who is right, or who is wrong in this case.  But it does ruin this chatroom for everyone when there is a total lack of this understanding, or even empathy.
22:30.15TechnobliteratorI understood why he felt that way, but I disagreed with it
22:30.36TechnobliteratorAnd I gave my reasons for it
22:30.43Wormy_I'm not trying to lecture.  This is what I see what I come in after being gone for most of the day.  What I see is quite sad.
22:31.20TechnobliteratorI regret how I presented myself, and I regret coming off as equally douchy, and making the channel argumentative
22:31.35TechnobliteratorBut I said what I thought had to be said
22:32.05Wormy_I think subjective arguments should just be dropped quickly.
22:32.11TechnobliteratorAnd if the user in question does not feel harassed, I do not think there is issue with the subject
22:32.25TechnobliteratorNo, I feel more like people should stop taking such a strong issue with a difference of opinion
22:32.51TechnobliteratorThis is a recurring problem for the wiki when people do not take it well and arguments get far more heated than they need to
22:32.59XhoBasically people need to grow up
22:33.08XhoAnd handle it accordingly
22:33.11TechnobliteratorThis is not a problem with Oluap, however
22:33.11Wormy_This it shouldn't be taken in that direction.
22:33.19MonetEveryone is different
22:33.44MonetWe have users from all corners of the world, of curse we're not all going to have the same opinion.
22:34.32TechnobliteratorOluap didn't see it as a difference of opinion hurting his feeling, he saw it as the channel not being run well if no uptight action was taken
22:34.34Wormy_I mean, I've managed to stop myself logging on drunk, at least on this chat.  Because I know it entertains no-one.  I also take most of my science / philosophy discussions elsewhere for the same reason
22:34.47XhoEntertains me hur
22:34.54XhoI shouldn't really be talking anyway
22:35.00Wormy_And Cyrannian
22:35.01XhoI'm not exactly one for correct conduct
22:35.11TechnobliteratorI saw no issue with the discussion, and more issue with trying to end it just because a minority disagree, if said minority are not personally oppressed by it
22:35.38XhoFucking hell if the internet and society in general has become so heavily bent on people's opinions and subjective matters
22:35.41XhoThen I want off this reality
22:35.50TechnobliteratorNot really
22:35.57TechnobliteratorThis is the only channel that I've noticed with this problem
22:35.59Externalwell, bye guys.
22:36.20TechnobliteratorA difference of opinion here too often leaves with someone throwing a fit and leaving, and I cannot understand why
22:36.35CyrannianDrunk Wormy often drops pearls of wisdom
22:36.36TechnobliteratorI do not see why people get so upset and take things personally
22:37.02XhoI'm risking saying it but we do have a considerable number of users who are autistic
22:37.12XhoIt's probably something to do with that
22:37.26XhoWhat's the term
22:37.26TechnobliteratorThat is nothing to do it with
22:37.36Wormy_The point is, the difference in opinion is obviously destructive.  I understand your position, when you are in the heat the moment, you don't want to back down.  But it doesn't win anything really
22:37.47TechnobliteratorPlease do not ascribe the arguments to things like that
22:38.05TechnobliteratorWormy_, this should not be the case, however
22:38.09XhoOh are you offended now
22:38.19Wormy_All it creates is this sad state of affairs when people leave
22:38.29TechnobliteratorPeople should not find a disagreement so upsetting that they feel the need to leave
22:38.39Wormy_But they do
22:38.52Wormy_They feel alienated by an uncaring crowd
22:38.57TechnobliteratorAnd should not, because this is the only channel I have observed that has had this issue
22:38.58XhoI'll let you discuss this among yourselves since I need to work tomorrow
22:39.04Technobliteratorgnight xho
22:39.08Wormy_bye
22:39.09CyrannianConflicting personalities and opinions are to be expected, simple cool-off periods of limited contact usually work after a while.
22:39.12SoshanimBye bye
22:39.18TechnobliteratorIndeed they do
22:39.33XhoIn that case everyone's emotionally screwed and they need a cup of tea
22:40.30MonetTea is good for the soul
22:40.42SoshanimAnd calms the spirit
22:41.04Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:41.06XhoEarl Grey Tea certainly puts me into a mood for recording
22:41.18TechnobliteratorI feel (hope) that Oluap will forget about this and forgive me. But in general, I feel like this is a recurring issue at all, where arguments over simple opinions become so heated that people take it personally and leave
22:41.29TechnobliteratorIt prevents fruitful and productive discussion
22:41.30Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:42.07XhoOluap's very stubborn and and kind of retreats into himself so it's hard to get your point across to him
22:42.14XhoAs witnessed
22:42.18TechnobliteratorThis is not a problem with Oluap specifically, though
22:42.24Xhojo stahp dis
22:42.27TechnobliteratorThis is a problem with the channel
22:42.53CyrannianWhat do you recommend in that case?
22:42.53XhoMight be just me to be honest
22:42.54Wormy_That's right.  We want this chatroom to be productive (or constructive), and a fun place to go to.
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22:43.21SoshanimWell that was weird
22:43.24XhoDancing around a campfire an hour a day
22:43.35SoshanimPhone decided to disconnect
22:43.35TechnobliteratorMy only recommendation would be for people to stop taking things so personally or for their feelings to be hurt by what is simply that, a difference in opinion
22:44.13TechnobliteratorI admit, I more than likely used to suffer from the same problem
22:44.21XhoFun times
22:44.28Technobliteratormy defense is that I was a stupid teen when I joined
22:44.39Technobliteratora very stupid teen
22:45.08TechnobliteratorIf we had this discussion on my channels I frequent, it would have gone more like so:
22:45.47XhoI think we should just put up the wiki policy 'Listen to Xho or die'        I like that policy
22:45.53Technobliteratorafter I presented the issue, and we both gave our points of view, then we would either collectively decide to ignore the issue, or we would discuss with the wiki whether there should be a genuine policy made on how uptight we can be on the channel
22:46.04Wormy_I don't want to say that people should not say their opinion.  They should, but they need not battle their opinion.  In that case it is doing this chat a dis-service for everyone.
22:46.19TechnobliteratorI do not feel that what I was doing was battling
22:46.24Wormy_It loses its fun and productivity
22:46.52Wormy_I suggest a little more courtesy for the wiki's sake is in order
22:46.53Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqHSrJ2mLo0 Everyone listen to this and vacate your cognitive functions
22:46.56TechnobliteratorI was responding to what he was saying
22:47.21SoshanimBoth of you are saying the exact same thing
22:47.23MonetI was never fun of the debate structure where one side argues with the other until the other admits defeat.
22:47.33Moneta fan*
22:47.37TechnobliteratorThat is not what we were doing
22:47.43XhoDebates here have a bad track record
22:47.46XhoA very bad one
22:48.08TechnobliteratorOne cannot come to compromise without learning both points of view
22:48.09MonetTechnobliterator: Not right now, no,
22:48.15XhoThis isn't the kind of place where you can voice an opinion without some thick-skulled idiot contradicting it                         Okay I'm getting too aggressive now
22:48.22XhoI'm gonna go before I start abusing everyone
22:48.38Wormy_Jo:  Think about Oluap's perspective,  You showing your opinion would have been confrontational.  Sure, that is him thinking that.  But there is no point carrying it on.
22:48.43Xhoinb4 someone says you've been abusing everyone for 6 years
22:49.08Wormy_That is what I mean by courtesy or empathy or whatever should be.
22:49.17Wormy_*whatever the word
22:49.37TechnobliteratorWe should take this to PM
22:49.52TechnobliteratorIf you are okay with discussing it
22:49.58XhoRight I'm actually gonna go now because 1) The more tired I get the more abusive I get              2) I'm tired
22:50.09Technobliteratorgnighjt xho
22:50.13Technobliteratorfor the second time
22:50.15Technobliterator:  |
22:50.23SoshanimRight, sweet dreams
22:50.29Cyrannianhands his decapitated head to Xho
22:50.38XhoCyrannian: I'll kiss it goodnight
22:51.52SoshanimLove how Xho needs a blood sacrifice to calm down and disconnect
22:51.59Wormy_I've had enough of this conversation.  I've stated all that I think about it
22:52.33TechnobliteratorWell, it is, kind of, already over
22:52.38Technobliterator:p
22:52.47SoshanimI believe everyone made their opinions loud and clear today
22:53.20SoshanimAnd everyone's point is a good point
22:53.29SoshanimLet's find a way to compensate
22:53.35Wormy_STOI wasn't going to say anything.  But if I didn't say anything, I fear I am not doing the right thing
22:54.06DrodoEmpireyells "Hitler did nothing wrong!". Its a good point, Soshanim said so.
22:54.10TechnobliteratorThat's how I felt earlier, but anyway, let's forget about it
22:54.23SoshanimAfter all, this wiki has endured long after its own game's downfall because of its community
22:54.32Technobliteratoroh yes
22:54.38Technobliteratorand after the cleanslate
22:54.40Technobliteratorand 2014
22:54.42Technobliterator:      |
22:55.11SoshanimWe'll get through this :)
22:55.35TechnobliteratorConsidering what has happened in the wiki in the past
22:55.38TechnobliteratorThis is a small issue
22:56.29DrodoEmpirehttps://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11406927_1151343681559526_6087009168445336515_n.jpg?oh=25994e505a468e40473fc59afcffff3f&oe=55E87481
22:57.27SoshanimLol Drodo, I'll limit the boundaries, influence  and power of my sayings to this chat... and not history
22:57.29SoshanimLol
22:57.52DrodoEmpireOh. 3:
22:58.24SoshanimHahaha
22:58.53SoshanimSo guys
22:58.58DrodoEmpireHm?
22:59.06SoshanimI may not be a tea fan
22:59.28SoshanimBut I share your love
22:59.36SoshanimMorally
23:00.05Wormy_STOI'm a tea --[caffeine]-- addict
23:00.37SoshanimSo when you say you are drunk you are actually drunk in caffeine?
23:00.37Wormy_STOThere have been times when I've had roughly 2 cups an hour. every waking hour
23:00.46SoshanimHahahaha
23:00.55Wormy_STOEither caffeine or alcohol
23:01.05SoshanimOh I see
23:01.08Wormy_STOThough I'm not addicted to alcohol in the same way
23:01.14SoshanimI like to remain pure of those
23:01.23SoshanimBoth alcohol and caffeine
23:01.29Wormy_STOYou can get decaf tea
23:01.49Wormy_STOIn fact sometimes they taste better because they use better tea leaves
23:02.28CyrannianI'm fond of coffee, but I'm not big on alcohol
23:02.50TechnobliteratorI'm not big on either
23:02.53Technobliterator:         |
23:03.18SoshanimJo you are the best
23:03.32Comrade_VinnyCyrannian: I still don't understand how you can be Irish AND not drunk...
23:03.44SoshanimHe is Cyrannian
23:03.52SoshanimIt's simple
23:04.24Comrade_VinnyPersonnally, I don't really enjoy coffee, but a bit too much alcohol
23:04.33Wormy_STONot all of us fit the stereotype.  I do though. I'm a brit who loves tea and beer
23:05.07SoshanimI like water
23:05.08TechnobliteratorI should probably back off from the IRC for a day or two
23:05.24TechnobliteratorIf only to allow everyone to cool down
23:05.25SoshanimWhy?
23:05.50TechnobliteratorI won't completely leave it
23:05.54Wormy_STOI do not believe that is necessary.  This is a chatroom problem, not your fault.
23:05.56TechnobliteratorI'll just, well, talk less
23:07.20DrodoEmpireSo
23:07.25TechnobliteratorI think people can do with a break from me, is all
23:07.32TechnobliteratorI'll still be idling ofc
23:07.53Wormy_STOI just think in confrontational situations, if difference of opinion isn't a productive form of IRC conversation, it should just be left at thay
23:08.18CyrannianNobody is at fault, these things are to be expected. Not everyone can get along and that's regrettable. Though since you and Oluap have always been friends, this will blow over quickly.
23:08.24Wormy_STOI mean other users were just as involved, this is not your fault
23:08.44DrodoEmpireSnoop Dogg, *the* Snoop Dogg, is in my hometown. o.o
23:08.47TechnobliteratorI'm not worried for my sake, more for his, he'll probably want a break from me as well
23:08.49Technobliteratorwait
23:08.51DrodoEmpireMy hometown is in bumfuck nowhere
23:08.53TechnobliteratorSnoop Doggy Dogg? :o
23:08.56DrodoEmpireYes.
23:09.11TechnobliteratorTell him I said I love his first album and everything he did after that was utter trash
23:09.13Technobliterator:D
23:09.16DrodoEmpirehur
23:09.25DrodoEmpireFilming for the Trailer Park Boys, so it seems
23:09.29Wormy_STOSnoop coming near me as well for some tiny little festival nobody outside the Midlands has heard of this
23:09.37TechnobliteratorWhich one?
23:09.43Wormy_STOMaybe this is where his career has taken him to
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23:10.34The_RandomnessHello
23:10.39DrodoEmpireHey
23:10.46Technobliteratorhi Randum
23:11.21Wormy_STOLooking for it
23:13.18Wormy_STOJo:  Matlock http://www.ynotfestivals.co.uk/
23:13.32Wormy_STOYou have probably been to Matlock.  Everbody has been to Matlock...
23:13.36Technobliteratorahh
23:13.52DrodoEmpireIts... Really, really bizarre to see my town on the news. o.o
23:13.57Wormy_STO*in the Midlands
23:14.16DrodoEmpireTruro doesn't appear on most maps
23:14.22Wormy_STODrodoL:  My home town caused an international incident
23:14.51The_RandomnessIt did?
23:15.22Wormy_STO<PROTECTED>
23:15.54DrodoEmpirehur
23:16.37TechnobliteratorCyrannian, https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11406960_918215358239541_2145317439655669012_n.jpg?oh=a98a9320d1c27c83337780e5ea0bcf04&oe=55EC9AE4
23:17.29CyrannianThat is such a cool picture
23:17.51The_Randomness^
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