IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150420

00:06.22Monet"Mcleod told me that Battlefront’s maps will be set on four planets: Tatooine, Hoth, Endor, and Sullust." http://www.pcgamer.com/star-wars-battlefront-focusing-on-planetary-battles-instead-of-space-combat/ well that's my interest killed
00:07.29Wormy__There are a lot more locations they could have chosen
00:07.54MonetIt feels like the game wil lbe smaller actually
00:08.00MonetWell maybe
00:08.26MonetThe original battlefront you could fight it out over 8 planets ,each of which had 2 maps each ,along with 4 specific capital planets.
00:08.36Wormy__indeed
00:09.09Wormy__I've played all of the series
00:09.15Wormy__even the PSP ones
00:09.18MonetBattleFront 2 had something like 15-18 planets you could visit, along with orbital layers for each one and a deep space map.
00:09.47MonetSo I'm guessing that while they may be limiting to 4 maps, it seems like they might be going for multiple locations
00:09.53Monetfor each planet
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00:11.38Monetbye
00:12.14TechnobliteratorI don't think it'll be smaller when the maps are a lot bigger
00:12.23Technobliteratorand there are 40 players on them
00:12.43Technobliteratorand starfighters on air
00:12.44MonetWhat I mean by "smaller" is less scope.
00:13.00TechnobliteratorWell, on release
00:13.21Monet4 planets and this is *after* The Old Republic which explored a ton of new planets
00:13.42TechnobliteratorI predict it'll be like Destiny in terms of being a multiplayer only game that adds new content to it constantly
00:13.49MonetLike Belasavis, Balmorra and Nal Hutta
00:14.06MonetWell no Nal Hutta is old
00:14.18TechnobliteratorI'm not too horrified by that idea if it doesn't get overhyped
00:14.20MonetBut The Old Republic took us to planets that previous games didn't
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00:14.46MonetPersonally I think Endor as a battle location is overhyped
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00:14.59TechnobliteratorThey'll probably add space combat, prequels content and more planets in other expansions
00:15.00MonetThere was only *one* site on the whole bloody moon that was important
00:15.14Technobliteratoreh
00:15.30TechnobliteratorThere's only one site on Hoth that was important too
00:15.40MonetThat's what concerns me a little
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00:15.55Quark8Hello.
00:16.05MonetHello
00:16.18Monet50% of the planets they're working on were notable for only one location.
00:16.40MonetAnd beyond Echo Base Hoth is ice, ice and more ice.
00:16.57MonetAt least Endor has tribes of teddy-bear people
00:17.44MonetALthough another issue wit Endor is that what was above it was more impressive than what was on it.
00:18.34MonetI don't know much about Sullist other than the fact the majority of civilisation is underground.
00:19.01Technobliteratortbf though
00:19.24TechnobliteratorIt's not like they're going to set more than one battleground on a planet
00:19.41Technobliteratorso how much interesting stuff there is on it doesn't matter too much
00:20.29MonetThat's why I have hopes for Sullist.
00:20.49MonetIt's the homeworld of the Sullistans.
00:21.07TechnobliteratorI just wish they'd make Empire at War 2
00:21.11Technobliterator;______;
00:22.21MonetBut Endor and Hoth...the Empire and Rebellion respectively chose those locations for their hidden bases precisely because there was nothing else of note there.
00:22.51MonetThen again The Old Republic tried adding stuff to Hoth to give us a reason ot visit
00:24.24Technobliteratorwhy did the rebels not just make their hideout a spaceship or something :   |
00:24.29MonetThe planet in the COld War era had been colonised by Talz and there was a huge starship graveyard o nthe surface that included a Republic flagship
00:26.15MonetThe spaceship would have to avoid the Empire by travelling though hyperspace o nroutes that were either lost ot memory or patrolled by the Empire
00:27.07MonetThat and Echo Base was actually pretty well hidden, it's jsut the probe droid sent to Hoth very conveniently landed an hour's walk fro mthe base.
00:28.34MonetRealistically the EMpire would have had to scan millions of square miles of land to find a location less than a square mile in size
00:28.55MonetAnd that's just for Hoth - they looked on thousands of planets thoughout the galaxy.
00:31.03MonetAnother possibility is Hoth can provide for them (kinda) more than a starship
00:31.21MonetIf there was a food shortage, they could hunt taun-tauns or wampas.
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00:34.08Monet_I think Randomness was right about my issue being a memory leak
00:34.26Monet_Firefox crashed again and was apaprently using 1.5GB of RAM
00:34.49Monet_Restarted and now it's using 130KB
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00:39.57DrodoEmpireHey everyone
00:40.05Quark8Hey
00:43.29Quark8How are you?
00:44.23DrodoEmpireFine.
00:44.25DrodoEmpireYou?
00:49.05TekDroidHello
00:57.11Quark8Fine
01:08.48Quark8Be right back.
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03:15.11Comrade_VinnyHey guys!
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06:11.20Wormy_hi
06:15.57Charles_MurrayHey!
06:24.30Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/L20W8JH
06:25.16Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/b6xTLzy
06:25.58Wormy_"at lvl 50" http://imgur.com/gallery/m7fynr9
06:26.02Liquid_InkSea creatures are of course made 90% of blorp
06:26.36Wormy_lol
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10:19.46dromImpyDroid: Danger: Offensive material http://imgur.com/a/94Jue
10:24.10ImpyDroidFucking
10:24.14ImpyDroidBrilliant
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11:04.29AndroImpyHi
11:06.25OluapPlayerHello
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11:24.47HachimanHai
11:26.04OluapPlayer~cuddle Hachiman
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12:25.59ImpyDroidHi
12:28.09HachimanHai Imp
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12:51.59HachimanAndroImpy: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11136723_1087532571262453_7429343632541179972_n.jpg?oh=800d71ad976bd3902843b0fbbb622f5a&oe=55A6FF34
12:52.35AndroImpy"What, puppy? Kill them all? Good idea!"
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12:57.31dromHai
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13:10.44dromThis is interesting. http://i.imgur.com/kiF28oM.jpg
13:11.07dromDude has a condition that gives him 5 fingers opposed to 4 and 1 thumb
13:12.34dromHolt-Oram syndrome
13:15.37HachimanAndroImpy: I am guessing you know what a homonculus is?
13:15.55AndroImpyThe original medieval definition?
13:16.24HachimanAs in, artificially-created people
13:16.31HachimanThat just so happened to be midgets hur
13:16.49AndroImpyOh right
13:17.01HachimanWhy what were you thinking?
13:17.08AndroImpyThe original definition was "little humans that live in sperm"
13:17.08HachimanI thought that was the definition?
13:17.27HachimanOh right hur
13:18.19AndroImpyBasically in the Middle Ages it was believed that sperm was inhabited by miniature human beings that grew into human size when conception began, and alchemist sought to use these to create humans artificially
13:18.24AndroImpy*alchemists
13:18.32dromAndroImpy: http://zippy.gfycat.com/PepperyComplicatedAddax.webm
13:19.43AndroImpySo basically magical IVF
13:20.03HachimanWhat if the Imperials, like those within the Inquisition, once used - and maybe still do - used of a combination of human and foreign alchemical practice to attempt making their own artificial people for controversial reasons?
13:20.33AndroImpyThat could work
13:21.06AndroImpyI imagine Imperials could have taken alchemy considering it fits humans relatively well
13:21.14AndroImpy*taken up
13:21.18HachimanAye
13:21.37HachimanPlus Imperials have a distaste for magic on a physical level
13:23.14dromHell, the car never had a chance. http://i.imgur.com/8ejqYPJ.jpg
13:24.18HachimanI can imagine that the Imperials would use homonculi to effectively "replace" people perhaps amongst other questionable uses
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13:27.46dromhttp://i.imgur.com/CnwOxfD.webm
13:28.35dromAndroImpy: http://i.imgur.com/5Sh695g.jpg
13:28.44Comrade_Vinnydrom: Nuke it from orbit.
13:28.48HachimanOf course, when it comes to replicating people in the Fantasyverse without necromancy, you can only probably replicate the body and not the soul
13:29.13AndroImpydrom: Chechen demon
13:29.17AndroImpyOr Welsh demon
13:29.45dromOr that demon from the radioactive town next to the Ural mountains
13:32.25dromI'm more amazed by the fact that these are drawn on post-its. http://imgur.com/a/mXIPg#0
13:37.11HachimanI can imagine colonies of failed homonculi being a thing that exists in the Fantasyverse
13:38.20HachimanAnd those released into Imperial society have at least some physical deformation that they are told or desire to keep hidden from others, or a majority of them are rather short-lived even by comparison to humans
13:40.26AndroImpyMaybe
13:49.03dromThe Columbia and Challenger diasters do sound really scary.
13:50.54AndroImpyApparently the Immortals of the Persian Empire survived until 1979 and still serve the Islamic Republic of Iran
13:51.14AndroImpyThough they are no longer called that, unfortunately
13:52.17HachimanWhy get rid of the name, it is badass hur
13:53.43AndroImpyAli Khamenei - Our nukes will blot out the sun!
14:00.25dromTriangle relation gone wrong. http://imgur.com/qIH0vaB
14:05.05dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/Fadpn30.jpg
14:05.54dromWomen, how do they work?
14:08.53dromComrade_Vinny: http://i.imgur.com/cxEkp1O.jpg
14:15.37Comrade_VinnyHo my gosh!
14:15.44Comrade_VinnyClaustrophobia activated!
14:26.32OluapPlayerTechnobliterator AndroImpy: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Terrorist_Attack ackbar
14:26.58dromAndroImpy: http://i.imgur.com/521OOM4.webm
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14:44.01TekDroidHello
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15:00.32Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1376390_10153236561041112_6003430055419882364_n.png?oh=de6fea02ecadd876f064bc7aa7a0376f&oe=55D6C52B
15:00.57drom_Oh no. impy's gone
15:00.59drom_:(
15:01.13drom_Anyway, I was about to show him this: http://i.imgur.com/jeZ0sfA.jpg
15:04.56Hachiman"There is a special place in my heart for deoxygenated blood."
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15:50.09TekDroidHello
15:50.25Wormy_how do
15:50.58TekDroidAlright, have a chem exam in 2 hours
15:51.24TekDroidAlso bought Endless Space last night but haven't tried it yet for the previously stated reason.
15:52.19TekDroidO.O I just realized that after tomorrow my summer break starts.
15:52.31Wormy_Chemistry?  Software egineering?
15:52.40TekDroidYeah
15:52.48drom_Wormy_: I also had Chemistry with my Software Engineering.
15:52.55Wormy_Software Engineering is starting to sound as diverse as my geology degree hur
15:53.00drom_Only 1 course though.
15:53.11TekDroidEven the prof said this chem course was useless
15:53.23TekDroidfor software engineers
15:53.38TekDroidAt least next year actually starts making sense.
15:53.42Wormy_Physics, theory of computation I can understand, especially from system programming and engineering
15:53.47drom_We get two 2 physic courses with escalating difficulty and complexity. Same for the 4 vital mathematics.
15:54.22Wormy_Maybe computer engineers might find themselves in a materials science area?
15:54.33TekDroidMy second physics class was electromagnetism and it had none of that, just walls of equations on how circuits work.
15:54.35drom_Plus, three courses of tech, mainly dedicated to product development and project planning.
15:54.41Wormy_But that still sounds like a divergence from software
15:54.45TekDroidIt is.
15:55.22TekDroidEngineers have basically a general first year except for one or two courses, here at least.
15:56.00Wormy_Ah I see
15:56.26drom_There is even an additional mathematics course. I bet it's the calculus.
15:56.54drom_Wait, we already had it.
15:56.57TekDroidNext year is 4 software courses, 2 electronics courses, 2 math courses (MVC and discrete structures), and two electives.
15:57.00drom_And it's not even college or uni.
15:57.17TekDroidSo next year is mostly relevant.
15:57.35Wormy_As for Earth science, its rather connrcted to everything physical, such as dark matter and palaeoclimatology http://www.sciencebits.com/sights-field-trip-milky-way
15:57.59Wormy_And of course many planetary scientists woirk with computer systems engineers
15:58.22Wormy_Example:  autonomous machine lwarning for Mars rovers
15:58.28Wormy_learning
15:59.10TekDroidInteresting
15:59.44Wormy_I hope I get a job that cool one day
16:00.38drom_Booted up Skype after for a long time, man, almost half of my contacts list are dead.
16:00.47TekDroidO.o
16:01.49drom_I mean, they are in reality still alive, but they all are offline and hold no info other than their usernames and public name and email addresses.
16:03.28TekDroidoh
16:04.18drom_Judging from their avatars. They probably haven't been online or touched Skype for months, or even years.
16:06.04Wormy_One or more might not be alive, you just can't know.
16:06.06drom_It's a depressing sight by the fact that most of 60% of the contacts were my pre-gymnasium friends.
16:06.31drom_Friends I had before I moved out of my homeprovince.
16:08.41drom_So depressing that I just want to slap this laptop shut and never use Skype again.
16:11.47dromSome guy I just meet on DF has pretty clever writing for one of his works: "Humans, Robots, Mutants, whatever your bullets desire."
16:14.06Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-9/1560382_1368533446496478_3191374326797011859_n.png?oh=648d49656d0c56d950518930288a5f29&oe=55DC452A&__gda__=1440366496_c57e8d87f012a3930ea3a0e86ab0ee41
16:15.16Wormy_Science gone too far.
16:16.46dromGot in for a summer job wohoo!
16:18.15HachimanCongratulations
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16:19.56Wormy_well done
16:21.04Technobliteratorgrats yo
16:22.27OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Terrorist_Attack
16:23.26Technobliterator"DA SLAPPENIN"
16:23.28Technobliteratorhahahahahahahaha
16:24.49Technobliteratorooh I like it
16:30.21dromDanke mates.
16:31.57dromI'm really hyped to get a catch of how it's like to work in the office (the job is in the IT-department of some heavy industry office), as a summerjob-intern.
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16:54.59JepardiHi
16:55.13TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, Hachiman, what do you guys think of Pokemon Conquest?
16:55.26HachimanNever heard of it
16:55.37HachimanOh wait no yeah I have
16:55.39HachimanNever played it
16:55.40Technobliteratorit's an SRPG Pokemon
16:55.48OluapPlayerI've heard of it but I've never paid attention to it
16:56.28HachimanIt received positive reviews apparently so try it out if you want
16:57.04Technobliteratormy friend's trying to get me into it
16:57.32Technobliteratorproblem is a) still yet to play normal pokemon :  | and b) I haven't had fond experiences playing SRPGs thus far
16:57.37Tek0516Technobliterator: I've played it.
16:57.46TechnobliteratorWhat did you think of it?
16:57.49HachimanPlay normal Pokemon first
16:59.28Tek0516You don't need to play normal pokemon for that though. It's an interesting game though
16:59.52dromThe employer gave me some details: I'm assigned as IT-support: I'm going to go around in the Office and help other people with their computers and work with the printers.
16:59.57Tek0516According to my 3DS I've apparently played...
17:01.26Tek0516My 3DS says I've logged 61 hours, but I probably got at least that when it came out on the regular DS. XD
17:04.49Technobliterator:o
17:06.06Tek0516O.O Apparently the guy next door I share a bathroom with has mono. D:
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17:10.20Wormy_hi
17:12.41Tek0516Hello
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17:42.46dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/HqdyvaC
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17:50.59OluapPlayerspu
17:51.03Xhou
17:51.06OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Terrorist_Attack honk
17:53.38XhoKoluap - ffs stahp doin shit and lemme bucket ur faic
17:55.27OluapPlayerClaw - non
18:15.09Xho4/20 BLAZE IT
18:19.52HachimanYon hyaku nijuu, moyase
18:34.25Xhohai
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18:38.01DrodoEmpireHey eevryone
18:38.03DrodoEmpire*everyone
18:38.04DrodoEmpire>.<
18:39.15GhelHello.
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19:01.17HachimanHai
19:02.35dromWormy_: Remember this? http://imgur.com/a/6uB4A
19:02.50dromThese are fishing lights used to attract fish.
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19:09.19HachimanHai Imp
19:09.52Wormy_Yeah, I read people daying they were
19:09.55Wormy_saying
19:10.38Wormy_odd they use redddish orange lights
19:10.50Wormy_red does not travel far in dark water
19:11.10Wormy_though it could be white lamps in a red algal bloom
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19:13.45DrodoEmpireNevermind.
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19:23.22ImperiosHi
19:25.30dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/6aVNVhy.gif
19:25.32dromGoats...
19:25.43Xho"U FUKIN WOT M8"
19:26.19Wormy_yh m8
19:27.54dromImperios Xho: http://i.imgur.com/p49J3rc.gif
19:28.14XhoSUPA SAIYAJIN
19:29.27dromhttp://imgur.com/a/a3Jxv
19:32.00Wormy_Looks like Bigfoot Silva
19:32.03Wormy_from UFC
19:32.28Wormy_This man is half Neanderthal http://lowkickmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/BigfootSpazout.jpeg
19:37.30Imperioshttp://rusvesna.su/sites/default/files/valuev_0.jpg
19:38.51Wormy_Hm there does seem to be a body type with large long skulls, bulky bodoes and sometimes prounced eyebriws
19:38.59Wormy_eyebrows
19:39.30XhoThat's called acromegaly
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19:40.37Wormy_Several MMA fighters have it
19:40.49Wormy_by the looks of things
19:41.00XhoWell it only usually occurs in very tall people
19:41.26XhoMainly because a symptom of acromegaly is gigantism
19:41.34XhoOr
19:41.38XhoNot a symptom
19:41.43Wormy_And tall people with good reach tend to make into UFC
19:41.44XhoCoincides with it a lot
19:42.53XhoAll famous patients are apparently at least 6 ft 6
19:43.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/rE727R4
19:43.33XhoBigfoot Silva does have acromegaly according to wikipedia
19:43.36dromImperios: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/2seu17/this_is_what_art_activist_do_in_russia_chucking/
19:48.43TekDroid4 down, 1 to go.
19:49.19Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11150330_418138195031625_3273066012935137103_n.jpg?oh=029c502dafed3634ec37689593a9576f&oe=55A62646
19:50.00dromHachiman Xho: http://i.imgur.com/vRvFFz7.png
19:50.21Xholel
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19:50.35Wormy_"Heavens, I'm glad it's a cat, the thumbnail looked like a toilet explosively overflowing with diarrhea."  http://imgur.com/gallery/iHhYJpt
19:51.18Xhohttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11156332_450120061819228_8870065993630645171_n.jpg?oh=5e6b506b86bfe7c7e2f7bfaa875eec11&oe=55D46AF0
19:53.51Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/wiSz34k  Lagrador http://imgur.com/gallery/dNzmIYT http://imgur.com/gallery/Iz0IQJB
19:54.10XhoSo I type in 'wings' in the Gmod Workshop
19:54.13XhoI get Hatsune Miku
19:54.25Xho10/10 search
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19:54.51dromIt has been a quite storm http://i.imgur.com/sNn0Inr.jpg
19:55.12Wormy_So much weed
19:56.07Xho4/20 tumble it
19:57.19drom"Just another cheery day in britain" http://i.imgur.com/dzaLbvI.jpg
19:57.54Wormy_thats our newsagents alright
20:01.49dromThis is just like something straight out from a comic sketch http://i.imgur.com/bRktTK2.gif
20:03.00dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/e1Vr0jj.jpg
20:03.11XhoJust because
20:06.00dromGhel Wormy_: Aaaaawwwww yissssss http://i.imgur.com/knUymtW.webm
20:07.34dromAccording to some guy in the comments, it's plasma.
20:08.34dromThere's another example of this kind of ionizing. http://i.imgur.com/XCVLaiU.webm
20:08.50TekDroidSo I'm trying out Endless Space. Any suggestions for a faction?
20:09.20Wormy_It probably is
20:09.28Wormy_Well, I played as the Sewers
20:09.44dromWhy not a MP game?
20:10.02Wormy_*Sowers
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20:10.34TekDroidWell I haven't played it yet, also I'm not feeling great right now.
20:10.36Wormy_Because I wanted to play a faction of sentient von neumann machines terraforming the galaxy and destroying all that try to stand in my way
20:11.42DrodoEmpire_Back
20:11.48TekDroidHello
20:14.51Wormy_A bit like the DCP >:D
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20:15.35Wormy_A bit like my adminship
20:15.35DrodoEmpire_test
20:17.15Wormy_Well yeah http://imgur.com/gallery/XPmwLn3
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20:18.35DrodoEmpireChrist almighty
20:18.43DrodoEmpireMy internet's shit right about now
20:19.30DrodoEmpiretest
20:20.18dromWormy_: Oh thank you!
20:20.27dromNow I have something to show my classmate haha
20:21.00dromHe just recently got a new smartwatch, he seems to be very attracted to it.
20:21.29Wormy_I wonder how many people will actually do that
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20:29.53dromWormy_ Ghel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yEu2R1gYSs
20:43.42dromI fear these neodymium magnets, because the implantats I've are magnetic. These are about suffice to rip the magnets off my skull through the skin in an arc.
20:44.50OluapPlayerSlow day today
20:51.42dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/ttHgPQi.png
20:52.08Hachimanolol
20:54.43Wormy_drom:  I once ran magnets across my computer screen
20:57.48Xhohttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11150859_1628043307433321_3815420968735951564_n.jpg?oh=8a12e20b4b5d4695fa275041f2f0af8a&oe=559E8993 What I want to do to my mangers and boss
21:10.52dromXho: You reminded me of this. http://i.imgur.com/oqj1avK.png
21:11.29XhoWow what did I do to deserve that
21:13.05drom"Jokes"
21:14.08XhoYeah well I've had too bad a day to really see the fun in it
21:16.41XhoI've realised now that working was a serious mistake regardless of the fact I'm earning money
21:16.51TechnobliteratorOh?
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21:17.49XhoSeriously stay in education for as long as you can
21:17.55dromSorry about it Xho.
21:18.26XhoIt's a means to an end but an office job and the whole routine is the most soul destroying thing in life
21:18.56XhoHow people do it for 50 years is beyond me
21:19.27Xho2 years is enough to make me want to go psycho and strangle my managers
21:19.40HachimanI thought college was even worse for you
21:19.43HachimanHai Aeo
21:19.47XhoHm
21:19.50Aeohi
21:19.52XhoPerhaps I just don't enjoy living
21:20.01XhoIt's certainly been miserable thus far
21:20.22dromWell. Try to gather or get closer to your friends. It might solve your depression.
21:20.53XhoWell my goal is to get to university
21:20.59XhoOr something like that
21:21.00dromWell. Saying this as I'm currently facing an oscillating period of depression as I try to go through my school.
21:21.16XhoAs soon as I start to work towards getting there I think I'll start feeling better
21:21.36XhoI was in a really good mood this morning and then it all just hit me how much I hate working where I work
21:21.57HachimanFull or part time?
21:22.07XhoFull time
21:22.16XhoWhere do you think I am during the day
21:22.21HachimanOh right hur
21:22.43dromWell. I know ya, I got a summer job at an office. I'll be an IT-support guy, the guy who everyone need for their everyday struggle.
21:23.14HachimanI would say try applying for a part-time position in another job once you get into uni
21:23.23XhoYeah I probably will do
21:23.26HachimanMost likely to pay less though
21:23.29dromIt just feels like it's going to be a new chapter of the "Anon works as IT"
21:23.33XhoWell I'll have student loans then
21:23.46HachimanStudent loans are not too bad
21:24.01XhoThe worst thing about my position is that the guy who I work with is the boss' stepson
21:24.04HachimanEarn under £25,000 a year and they will not take anything from you
21:24.10XhoSo he gets a great deal of leniency that I don't
21:24.36HachimanOnce you start earning £25,000+ they take the difference between the amount you are earning and what you owe and take a fifth of that amount
21:24.48HachimanSo around £200 - £400
21:24.52XhoIt's ridiculously unjust and and I can't really do anything about it
21:25.04XhoI'll probably be going to uni twice anyway
21:25.34dromI'm probably going to take two college educations.
21:25.36HachimanMy folks want me to go to uni for about four years once I am done with this two year college thing
21:25.45XhoI want to do a degree in music and then a degree in languages
21:25.50HachimanGoing to be my last college course since I have had two previously
21:25.59dromCivil engineering and Computer Science
21:26.12dromIt's going to be fun, at least what I think.
21:26.19XhoGoing back to the whole work ordeal
21:26.35XhoI know for a fact that if I worked for my dad he wouldn't give me any perks
21:26.52HachimanOuch
21:27.29dromThat's terrible.
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21:27.56XhoSo no I don't intend to stay there much longer, though concerning finances I don't have much of a choice
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21:29.31XhoIf I worked in a different department perhaps
21:30.03XhoThough it's difficult to get away from my managers since they are fairly affluent in the whole building
21:30.20XhoAlso my boss and I don't really get along any more
21:30.25dromThe truth about the intern job I've got for this summer is the same place as where my dad works. I bascially needed money, merites and experience in workplaces like offices. I just bascially asked my dad, who then asked an other guy if their workplace offered summer jobs to anyone. I had to spend few hours on writing and correcting my CV, then wait 1-2 months for a response. The only perks I'll get from my dad that I'll follow with him to the job
21:30.26dromduring my period there.
21:30.41dromOtherewise, I'd have to take a 1-2 hours bus ride to there.
21:30.42XhoWe used to get along very well but then I was ill for two months and now for some stupid reason I don't seem to be worth his time
21:31.20XhoI certainly find work to be very different after I returned from being off sick
21:32.00XhoThey brought in another guy to be trained in my job while I was off and they all like him more than they like me
21:32.12XhoThen again I'm not a mindless happy-go-lucky team player
21:32.34XhoAnd this other guy hates this job as well
21:33.09dromSounds like a good concidence to make friends with him.
21:33.14XhoHe doesn't like the managers either
21:33.30XhoYeah I get along with him quite well
21:33.40XhoIn fact in terms of personality he's almost the spitting image of Wormy
21:34.02XhoHe loves all these alien/conspiracy theories and whatnot
21:34.16Hachimanhur
21:34.23GD12hur
21:34.32dromhur
21:34.36XhoHe also likes the outdoors and is into nature and all that
21:34.58XhoThough he's a lot more artsy than Wormy
21:35.01XhoThat's the main difference
21:35.05XhoHe's Wormy's artsy cousin
21:35.27XhoBut yeah I'm very socially isolated at work
21:35.34XhoThen again I'm always socially isolated
21:35.54GD12Then get a job in programming :)
21:35.55XhoDoesn't usually bother me but in this case it does kind of run a line with getting money
21:36.30XhoI dunno why I'm always different
21:36.41XhoIt doesn't matter what crowd I'm in, I'm always on the outside of it
21:36.44Wormy_I have a suppressed artsy side
21:36.56XhoI can easily socialise and whatnot but it's on prompt and never natural
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21:37.32XhoI must be a lot more expressive than I think I am
21:37.37dromGD12_: Keep in mind that programming isn't either a socially isolated job.
21:37.42XhoBody language wise
21:38.04dromYou have to be a team player, but the perks behind it that you'll bascially find many friends you can have fun with.
21:38.17dromFriends with mutual humor aswell.
21:38.20XhoI hate team playing
21:38.23XhoAbsolutely hate it
21:38.56XhoIn a real life environment it's so twisted from the actual prospect
21:39.04GD12_drom : true - i was joking about the fact that people seem socially isolated before you talk to them and find you click together
21:39.08dromI know ya, I'm the lead for a project my class currently have in Web Development
21:39.25dromEVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND GOES IN THEiR OWN DIRECTIOn
21:39.29GD12_Xho : Only job I can think of that doesn't require team playing is stripping :(
21:39.40XhoThanks for the input
21:39.41Xhohur
21:39.50dromWorst part is: THEY DON'T BEAR THE SAME EXPERIENCES AS HOW I EXPECT FROM THEM.
21:39.58dromIt's bascially a nightmare.
21:40.01XhoIt's all so fake where I work though
21:40.17XhoWe have this 'positive outlook' and inspirational quotes dotted all over the walls
21:40.28Wormy_You could always work in the countryside, where there are less annoying people
21:40.31XhoIn truth most of us are miserable and daydream of killing our managers
21:40.40GD12_HEY PAUL
21:40.44dromWormy_: 20% more rednecks though
21:40.48XhoI work on a machine
21:40.52Wormy_lol
21:41.05XhoSo I could actually pull a metal roller out of it and turn someone's head to paste if I officially lost it
21:41.20XhoThough that's illegal so blah
21:41.35XhoLife would be so much easier if you could physically remove people from it
21:42.00GD12_right click and drag to tash can
21:42.27XhoWell
21:42.37XhoIt's more like right click, mutilate with axe, drag to trash can
21:43.01GD12_i was assuming the mouse was a chainsaw but that works as well
21:43.10dromWormy_: https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Guide_to_medicine#Brain_damage
21:43.12GD12_reservation at dorsia plz
21:43.15XhoIt has gotten to the point where faking responses is no longer in my ability
21:43.28drom"Chaplain's bible applied to the head." as Brain damage. Perfection
21:43.33XhoSo I don't laugh at my manager's awful and cringeworthy jokes any more
21:43.40Wormy_lol
21:43.59XhoBut yeah I have lost all enthusiasm for this job
21:44.05GD12_so whats the plan?
21:44.24XhoWell I have to stick it out long enough to get everything ready to go to uni
21:44.34XhoSo that's finances and qualifications
21:45.00XhoThough at this rate I will have killed someone by July
21:45.23GD12_uni in the uk is like 4k per sem right?
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21:45.25XhoWell more realistically throw something heavy at them and hope it only knocks them to the floor
21:45.28Xho£9000
21:45.55XhoI'm only doing a course in a music college so as far as I know it is considerably less
21:46.01XhoI just wanna do something I enjoy for once
21:46.08XhoThe past 4 years have been exceptionally miserable
21:46.41Wormy_Scottish students don't get student debt in our dis-United Kingdom D:<
21:46.46GD12_i c i c
21:47.25Xho£5,950 per year at one of these courses
21:48.11dromStudent loans also cost here, but they are paid by our municiplities, depending on where you come from. Else you or someone else has to pay for it.
21:48.21drom(debts)
21:48.54Wormy_£9000 on my geology degree,  $6000 on my foundation degree on graphics and programming
21:49.03Wormy_a year
21:49.18GD12_yeah im applying to the UK for grad school as well for the 2016 - 2017 school year so perhaps ill be in the same time zone as y'all
21:49.30Wormy_nice
21:50.54GD12_so if i end up going there i'll learn the english ways of tea, chaviness among other things
21:51.01XhoDear god save yourself
21:51.03GD12_jk
21:51.16Wormy_Eat fish and chips and greggs everyday
21:51.35GD12_at the pub with me mates
21:52.14Wormy_Where are you thinking of going?
21:52.18XhoThe entry requirements to get into these music colleges are great though since I've already gotten in pretty much
21:52.31XhoI just need an actual qualification in a musical instrument
21:52.40XhoSo I'll get a Grade 8 in Guitar and boom done
21:53.31GD12_the UK places I'm thinking off are Cambridge and LSE for a MPhil in mathematical finance / financial engineeering
21:53.49GD12_I've switched focus from research to quantiative/computational finance b/c i heard it makes money
21:53.54GD12_*more money than CS
21:53.57GD12_*pure CS
21:54.01GD12_*I'm a money whore
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21:54.27GD12_hey
21:54.32Wormy_I'm the oppose, I never wanted to be in the industry, but to do research
21:54.33Monethi
21:54.36Wormy_*opposite
21:54.56GD12_I'm a sellout now lol
21:55.52Wormy_I'm not sure what my future is anymore.
21:56.07Wormy_Don't mean that in a depressive way
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22:02.26Wormy_If I fail at pursuing science, I'll consider professional cycling.  If I fail at that, I'll live as a hermit in some Chinese mountain.
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22:03.09Wormy_hello
22:03.21ExternalizerHey.
22:03.44GD12_Hello
22:04.20HachimanHello
22:04.36ExternalizerI must be popular. .__.
22:04.47HachimanNot really, we are just polite
22:05.19ExternalizerWell thanks.
22:05.31HachimanYou're welcome :P
22:05.40Wormy_Also, why is Oluap not a sysop?
22:05.57HachimanActually yeah why is Oluap not a sysop
22:06.01HachimanOluapPlayer: sign in u
22:06.05Wormy_He looks...  Naked without a "@"
22:06.22ExternalizerWhut?
22:10.24Hachimanhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/834/939/868.png I love this
22:10.47ExternalizerThat's life.
22:13.32ExternalizerDoes anyone know how to add a video to a fiction page?
22:14.12HachimanNope, afraid not
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22:14.40ExternalizerTechnobliterator, you are the technical person here. How do I do that?
22:14.42GD12_idk sry
22:15.03TechnobliteratorYou can upload videos
22:15.07TechnobliteratorLike a normal image
22:15.24Technobliteratorbut we should have a youjtube template to directly add youtube vids to pages imo
22:15.55ExternalizerI made an on-spore video and put it on a flashdrive. The video was made on a computer without internet
22:17.07Wormy_<youtube>url</youtube
22:17.11Wormy_>
22:17.28TechnobliteratorNope
22:17.38TechnobliteratorThe <youtube> tag is deprecated, sadly
22:18.05Wormy_I'm sure I only just used it recently.
22:18.42ExternalizerSo....
22:19.01ExternalizerDo I just add it like that, leave it the way it is, and just change the url?
22:19.31TechnobliteratorYou should just upload the video to the wiki and include it that way
22:19.41ExternalizerLink?
22:19.50Wormy_It skips setting up a youtube account, I suppose
22:20.46ExternalizerNo, I mean where do I upload the video?
22:21.23ExternalizerI am thinking of using Forgotten Spore weapons and marking them off as Nathierm Imperium weapons.
22:21.26ExternalizerBut
22:21.32ExternalizerI need a video]
22:24.08Technobliteratorthe same one you use for an image?
22:24.39ExternalizerYou simply press "Upload"?
22:24.55ExternalizerI thought that was for pictures instead of videos
22:25.28TechnobliteratorNo, it's for all files
22:25.31TechnobliteratorIncluding font files
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22:25.46Technobliteratorhi Random
22:25.51The_RandomnessHello
22:26.08ExternalizerEllo'.
22:26.13ExternalizerI'll try that.
22:27.18Externalizer...
22:27.33ExternalizerThe video is only 50 seconds long and it is apparently too big.
22:29.00Wormy_You'll need to compress it down
22:29.09Externalizerhow]
22:29.12MonetThe 10MB limit includes videos doesn't it?
22:29.22Wormy_There's a lot of open source and free software for that, like Handbrake
22:29.38Wormy_How big the file?
22:29.43Wormy_10 MB yes
22:30.08ExternalizerErm...54.4 MB/
22:30.16Wormy_Also, what kind of file type is it?
22:30.22Wormy_Is it an avi?
22:30.27Wormy_eugh
22:30.49ExternalizerAvi. Yeah.
22:33.17Wormy_http://www.wikihow.com/Compress-Video
22:33.23Wormy_Its pretty simple to do
22:34.32ExternalizerThanks.
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22:43.05DrodoEmpireBack
22:44.18ExternalizerHey.
22:45.29TekDroidHello
22:50.30ExternalizerWait, in order to join Andromeda, I don't have to ask Monet, Imperios, or LucarioOfTheGods?
22:50.42Wormy_I'm not sure.
22:50.45HachimanNope
22:50.47MonetYou don't.
22:50.54HachimanYou used to but Andromeda is now a free galaxy
22:52.01Wormy_I ought to make the Magellanic Clouds fiction page soon...  Its suddenly catching on as real estate
22:52.17TekDroidlol
22:52.21Externalizer*Cough* Dingo the Wolfie *Cough*
22:52.21Wormy_And I'm worried about native fictions I have established
22:52.37ExternalizerWhen was the last timne someone made a fiction in the Magellanic Clouds?
22:52.49HachimanMagellanic Clouds should be one of the more Lovecraftian places in the Fictionverse
22:53.15OluapPlayerI'll make an empire of incredibly mundane people there just to spite you
22:53.15Wormy_I don't want to stop people using the clouds but I don't want established stuff rolled over because the clouds are a sudden trend.
22:53.51DrodoEmpireWell its been barely used, Wormy.
22:54.04ExternalizerNo seriously, when was the last time someone made a fiction there? The only person who has made a fiction there is Dingo.
22:54.23Wormy_I'm used to seeing trends develop.
22:54.43Wormy_Patriot recently plodded a giant empire if human Nazis there
22:54.46ExternalizerYou've been here for years
22:54.48Wormy_*of
22:55.02ExternalizerReally?
22:55.07ExternalizerBEST. EMPIRE. EVER
22:55.07DrodoEmpireYes.
22:55.15Wormy_Search Magellanic Reich
22:55.22ExternalizerCan I buy the rights to it?
22:56.04DrodoEmpireFun fact: Reich is just a general German term for "realm". :p The Nazis demonized the term somewhat which is unfortunate.
22:56.38*** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Happy birthday, Random!
22:56.39OluapPlayerDoesn't make them any less nazis
22:56.39DrodoEmpireSame with the swastika, which was used by many, *many* eurasian cultures before the Nazis made it the symbol of evil
22:56.49ExternalizerFucking Nazis.
22:56.56Technobliteratorthree cheers :o
22:57.06OluapPlayery does Random get his name in the top thing
22:57.12MonetDrodoEmpire: The Nazis demonised a *lot* of things
22:57.12OluapPlayerHe's not even an active user
22:57.17DrodoEmpireMonet: True
22:57.22ExternalizerIt's his "birthday".
22:57.30Technobliteratorwell, I think we should do this for everyone's birthday
22:57.31MonetLike "propaganda" and "eugenics"
22:57.34Technobliteratorwe do on FFWiki
22:57.39Technobliteratorit's just a nice thing
22:57.39The_Randomnesshttps://i.imgur.com/bnWmD60.png
22:57.49OluapPlayerGood luck with that then
22:57.59DrodoEmpireMonet: Eugenics isn't exactly a nice philosophy in the first place. :p
22:58.15DrodoEmpireRandom: Ayy
22:58.24The_Randomnessayy
22:58.24MonetDrodoEmpire: no but before WWII it was still talked about in philosophical circles.
22:58.39DrodoEmpireYeah true
22:58.57MonetI recall Tesla wa a supporter. Though he wasn't fond of the more...extreme methods
22:59.14DrodoEmpireI suppose it *was* Nazism that turned us away from a lot of philosophies, like fascism and eugenics
22:59.27DrodoEmpireBecause they took it to such an extreme people were quite turned away from it postwar
22:59.33DrodoEmpirePerhaps for the better
22:59.39TekDroidPossibly
22:59.48MonetThe idea of eugenics  Iguess it was grounded in evolution - better people, stronger, smarter, breed ot make stronger and smarterp eople.
22:59.58Technobliteratorjust let me, an OP or a rollback know when it's your birthday and we'll give you a day of fame
23:00.44MonetExcept the Nazis decided, due to their obsession with compressing 200 years' worth of change into 4, those not considered "good stock" were worked ot death and then gassed or incinerated.
23:00.57DrodoEmpireMonet: Eh perhaps. But it infringes on people's rights to associate and have relationships with who they like. And can be *very* easily misused or misinterpreted to push forward a racist agenda
23:00.58Wormy_The sad thing is, eugenics and social darwinism are what we now know based on false ideas
23:01.33Wormy_Natural selection does not tend to make a species fitter, it can make a species unfit
23:01.38The_RandomnessSocial darwinism is poorly named to say the least
23:02.19ExternalizerWe should've tortured every last Nazi until they want to die. Then torture them more!
23:02.20Wormy_Especially sexual selection, producing rather unfit body features
23:02.21MonetTrue, Darwin himself admitted it's not the strongest or smartest that are guarenteed survival.
23:02.40MonetIt's the most adaptive.
23:03.06Wormy_Modern Darwinism is motly based on a gene-centric view
23:03.18The_RandomnessAlso, the whole "survival of the fittest" nonsense came from the whole social darwinist thing
23:03.19TekDroidOnly thing natural selection does is have those best able to reproduce thrive.
23:04.11Wormy_Even then, a species that is thriving too much can become unstable
23:04.12DrodoEmpire^
23:04.13DrodoEmpireYeah
23:04.54ExternalizerWhelp, that's life
23:05.09Wormy_For example, a population dominated by "hawks" will eventually become out-compted by "doves"
23:05.14ExternalizerNow to use Chronoscopic to travel in time and torture Hitler for years.
23:05.29Wormy_and then swing back again
23:05.58MonetExternalizer: Remove Hitler though and Stalin can conduct his plans unhindered
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23:06.22ExternalizerWormy: That's because they eat up all the doves,and they start to die off. When the hawks start to dwindle, the doves come back since there are no longer any hawks to hunt them. Then the hawks come back to eat the new food
23:06.32Wormy_Nope
23:06.32ExternalizerAnd it repears
23:06.37ExternalizerReally?
23:06.53ExternalizerMonet: I'll torture Stalin then
23:07.00Wormy_The Hawk-Dove analogy refers to behavioral characteristics of a species' population
23:07.22Wormy_There are evoluntionary stable and unstable strategies
23:07.26TekDroidExternalizer: Pretty sure we have some time god-race that would stop you. :P
23:08.03ExternalizerMonet; Screw the Ralzoids and Narza. IMMA DO IT. AND NOONE CAN STOP ME
23:08.12The_Randomnesssigh
23:08.26Externalizer*Tekdroid:
23:08.38Wormy_Hawks use a fighter strategy, and doves may disply aggression but avoid fighting
23:09.18ExternalizerWormy: Then bring a gun
23:09.43TekDroidExternalizer: Then stalin kills one of your ancestors and history explodes from the paradox
23:09.57ExternalizerTekDroid:FUK!!!
23:10.22TekDroidYou destroyed the universe. Happy now?
23:10.26AeoUm, guys, Hitler didn't stop Stalin.
23:10.41AeoGermany lost WW2 and Stalin's side, the Allies, won.
23:10.42ExternalizerWho would you rather be interrogated by? The modern-day CIA or a Stalin Era KGB interrogator?
23:10.49AeoCIA
23:10.59MonetHitler distracted Stalin.
23:11.15AeoPeople who compare those two are forgetting how awful the KGB was.
23:11.37MonetHitler was a catalyst for Russia and the US putting their differences aside.
23:11.45Monettemprarily
23:11.57AeoIt's like comparing being stabed with being flayed and left in a kiddie pool filled with salt water.
23:12.02MonetEven before the invasion of Poland, the US and RUssia were rivals.
23:12.34AeoThey did put their differences aside... for five minutes.
23:12.53MonetIt was an effective five minutes
23:13.19MonetBecause after those five minutes were up, the UNited Stated had something that could get past the Russian WInter
23:13.26Wormy_When a population is overun by Hawks will eventually become unstable, as Hawks are busy fighting, the Doves are spending more energy breeding
23:13.48Wormy_As Doves stay out the way of danger
23:14.11Wormy_Eventually Doves will take over, and then Hawks do very well
23:15.05Wormy_Of course its a very simple model, in nature strategies are much more complicated but it goes to show the action of genes is behind evolution not necessarily a principle to make species fitter
23:15.45Wormy_Genes might lead a species of bird to lay eggs earlier, so there is less competition
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23:15.58Externalizer_Internet is overrated.
23:16.33Wormy_But of course, that creates a feedback loop that makes the birds nest earlier and earlier, until winter becomes too harsh
23:16.47Externalizer_Are we still talking about BIRDS?!
23:17.00DrodoEmpireYES! WE ARE!
23:17.02DrodoEmpire:p
23:17.08Wormy_Well I'm actually talking about Selfish Genes
23:17.32Externalizer_I quite?
23:17.37Externalizer_*quit
23:17.41DrodoEmpire*Selfish memes
23:17.41Wormy_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene-centered_view_of_evolution
23:17.50DrodoEmpire( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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23:18.36Wormy_So yeah, fuck social darwinism
23:19.29The_Randomnessyeah
23:20.38Externalizer_Whelp. I'm bored.
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23:21.33Externalizer_Why are there two teks? Same or different people?
23:21.41DrodoEmpireSame.
23:22.00DrodoEmpireJust on different devices
23:22.01Externalizer_I'm bored. IMMA HAVE THE NATHIERM IMPERIUM DECLARE WAR ON ALL EXISTANCE!1!1!
23:22.06Externalizer_Cause' I'm bored.
23:22.11Wormy_Or different, if we live in a freaky block universe
23:22.22Externalizer_That makes no sense.
23:22.27Externalizer_And who is this "guest"?
23:22.28DrodoEmpireDrodo - *cavalry charge you into oblivion* :p
23:22.43DrodoEmpireSOmeone who hasn't got their nick figured out. Don't worry about it.
23:22.46The_RandomnessI feel like that's been done before
23:22.51Externalizer_Kill you with your own weapons.---literally.
23:23.28DrodoEmpireRandom: What has?
23:23.48The_RandomnessWar being declared on all existence
23:23.53DrodoEmpireOh. XD
23:23.57DrodoEmpireYeah
23:23.58Wormy_http://www.ipod.org.uk/reality/reality_block_universe.asp
23:25.12Technobliteratorany of you UK people wanna discuss politics :o
23:25.37Externalizer_Random: Annihilation?
23:25.40Wormy_Sure, but not if it will bore international users
23:25.41Externalizer_I blame Xho.
23:26.00The_RandomnessYeah, basically the Xhodocto, but I won't bother going into it
23:26.01Wormy_I have a new rant about Nigel Farage
23:26.22TechnobliteratorWormy_, I just took a political test
23:26.33Wormy_And his favouritism of christian assylum seekers over other religious or cultural groups
23:26.42Wormy_How did you rate?
23:26.49TechnobliteratorApparently, my party matches: Green Party - 67%, Labour - 63%, Liberal Democrats - 54%, Conservatives - 41%
23:27.20The_RandomnessOut of sheer curiosity, could you send this political test to me?
23:27.25TechnobliteratorI wouldn't go by that too storngly, I mean, ideologically I might support things, but practically not
23:27.26Technobliteratorsure
23:27.41Technobliteratorhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11471048/who-should-I-vote-for.html you can just pretend you're from london or something :[p
23:28.16DrodoEmpireI could drone on about how shitty Stephen Harper is. :p That's Canada but meh
23:29.07MonetTechnobliterator: While I ao like the suggestions put forward for the Green Party, I'm not sure how well they'd do as a ruling partry
23:29.16TechnobliteratorI agree
23:29.25TechnobliteratorI think they wouldn't be the best at managing our economy
23:29.44MonetMaybe a later date whe nthe coutnry is doing better
23:29.49Monetcountry*
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23:30.01MonetThough I am in full opposition of Labour.
23:30.02HachimanSo long as UKIP does not get in
23:30.04MonetHello
23:30.06HachimanI honestly do not care
23:30.22Wormy_Technobliterator:  I sit between social democracy and Greens on http://www.politicalcompass.org/
23:30.47TechnobliteratorWhy against Labour?
23:30.57Technobliteratordoesnt know much about them
23:31.06MonetMy hatred for Labour is two fold: The first is they drive this country's economy into the ground for the Tories to clean up, second is I really don't like the sound of this Labour-SNP coalition.
23:31.22Wormy_Blairite Labour ad since were the worst government since Thatcher
23:31.28Technobliteratorthey do have a history of doing that
23:31.41TechnobliteratorBut ideologically, I support their views
23:31.56MonetA party for the working class -> Are terrible with finance
23:32.09TechnobliteratorI think socialism - not communism - is the ideal outcome for Britain
23:32.17Technobliteratorthe planet, rather
23:32.24HachimanEw SNP
23:32.28Technobliteratorcapitalism is evil, communism is evil
23:32.30HachimanNot even Scottish people like SNP
23:32.31MonetI'm leaning towards Lib-Dems.
23:32.34Wormy_New Labour are not socialists
23:32.42Wormy_They are the right
23:32.48Wormy_*on the
23:32.52MonetGreens are probably the closest to a socialist government
23:32.53Wormy_Old Labour were
23:32.57Externalizer_I'MMM BORED
23:33.05Wormy_I would support Old Labour if they still existed
23:33.06TechnobliteratorLib Dems? Eh?
23:33.16TechnobliteratorI don't predict Lib Dems will do well
23:33.34Technobliteratorbut the tories fucked them over
23:33.42Technobliteratorfuck man, I dunno who to vote ;__;
23:33.46Wormy_I used to be a Lib Dem, but I think Nick Clegg was useless
23:33.54MonetI forgive Clegg for what he did as Deputy PM because he really didn't have as much power as "Deputy PM suggested".
23:34.29The_RandomnessJust finished taking it: Lib Dems 64%, Labour 62%, Green Party 57%, and Conservative 55%
23:34.48Externalizer_Well, I live in America, so I have no concern for your British politics.
23:34.54The_RandomnessNow back to reading that block universe thing
23:35.19Wormy_Jo:  That explains how Labour shifted http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010
23:35.37DrodoEmpireCanadian politics are... Similar, I suppose? Same system, but parties are shifted around a bit
23:35.39Comrade_VinnyTechnobliterator: That test doesn't work at all -_-
23:35.47Comrade_VinnyGave me 80% for Greens
23:35.47MonetThat and he did stuff like convincing Tories to settle for £900/year tuition fees (when it could have been higher), and trying (but admittedly failing) to put forward an Alternative Vote referendum
23:36.10TechnobliteratorJust because you're in line with their views doesn't mean you support them
23:36.19Comrade_VinnyAnd just to give you an idea, I answered Disagree Very at Should gouv aim to reduce emission
23:36.20MonetComrade_Vinny: Actually if you're pro-communism then Greens is fine.
23:36.22Externalizer_How many sporewiki users are in America? ;___;
23:36.27TechnobliteratorI support the ideologies of the Green Party even if I don't want them gaining any power
23:36.32TechnobliteratorWell, Ex, Random is
23:36.43The_Randomnessmurica
23:36.46TechnobliteratorHe is our only 'murican admin ;p
23:36.46DrodoEmpireExternalizer: Only a few.
23:36.55Comrade_VinnyAnd I answered Agree at Should gouv allow fracking
23:37.03Wormy_I'm a Green
23:37.05DrodoEmpireSurprising amount of Canadians here. :p
23:37.06MonetThe Greens also want other things like free school meals, no tuition fees and open-doors immigration.
23:37.07Technobliteratorunless...I dunno where Morgoth is from? ?_?
23:37.25Technobliteratorwell,Jackal is from US iirc
23:37.30TechnobliteratorTybusen
23:37.31DrodoEmpireLike, a *really* high number considering how tiny of a country Canada is population-wise
23:37.32DrodoEmpireYeah
23:37.51DrodoEmpireOnly some 35 million people in Canada, most of them in Central and Western Canada
23:37.59DrodoEmpireThe East and the North are empty.
23:38.18The_Randomnessyeah
23:38.20Wormy_That being said, I'm not anti-nuclear power or anti-GM (for humanitarian purposes)
23:38.29DrodoEmpireWell under a million people living in Nova Scotia, my home province
23:38.31Wormy_Like a lot of Greens seem to be
23:38.49TechnobliteratorOluap is the most unique in where he hails from, he has us all beat
23:38.55The_Randomness:p
23:39.05Technobliteratorbut brits outnumber y'all mofuckers
23:39.09DrodoEmpireOf course, that has a *lot* to do with an aging population and all of the young people leaving for the west.
23:39.18The_RandomnessOh gosh, don't get me started on the people who rail against nuclear power *and* GM stuff
23:39.23DrodoEmpire^^^^^^^^^^
23:39.27Wormy_We had a user from South Africa once
23:39.28Comrade_VinnyEither that, or the Labour Party is really f*cked up...
23:40.05DrodoEmpireSeriously. Every family it seems has one or two members "go west" for work. Its a disgrace. :L
23:40.21The_RandomnessA friend of mine has a very not so eloquent way of explaining how I feel about it, but I dare not share it here.
23:40.50The_RandomnessWormy_: Finished reading that article, it was interesting
23:40.51MonetComrade_VInny: Labour may be red, but they aren't Communit at all
23:41.24MonetEd Milliband went to Oxford
23:41.27Wormy_Yeah good site that
23:41.33Comrade_VinnyWhat the hell?!
23:41.35Comrade_VinnyPublic spending should be maintained at least at current levels
23:42.02Comrade_VinnyI answered Yes, Labour answered no. What the hell?!?! What kind of Labour Party isw that?!?!
23:42.13MonetYou are not a communist if you studied at Oxford or the London School of Ecoomics!
23:42.56MonetComrade Vinny: Ed Miliband thinks Cameron's "age of austerity" hasn't done enough.
23:43.39Wormy_I know people who are anarchist communists
23:44.01Wormy_Its actually more intelligent than it sounds but I think its too idealistic
23:44.14MonetOn the one hand you have Cameron who's been boasting that Britain's economy has returned ot pre-2008 levels, and on the other you have Ed Miliband who says Camero's policies have only hurt the low-income families.
23:44.21Comrade_VinnyThe government should take rail services into public ownership
23:44.29Wormy_I also worry that it would hurt things like science
23:44.39Comrade_VinnyLabour party answered: Disagree. What the ...?!
23:44.56MonetEngland's rail services are a little different fro mthe US
23:45.09MonetAll our rails and stations are maintained with taxpayer money.
23:45.53MonetVinny remind me why did you look into what Labour thought?
23:46.03MonetOr what they want, rather
23:46.25Comrade_VinnyWormy_: Just looked at the compass you sent. I don't know what is going on, but I know one thing. That Labour Party is in no way a Labour party...
23:46.38Technobliteratorthey are? I thought they weren't
23:47.37TechnobliteratorI'm actually tempted to vote the Green Party
23:48.01Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Old_Logo_Labour_Party.svg/1111px-Old_Logo_Labour_Party.svg.png Vinny this is the Labour party's emblam
23:48.08TechnobliteratorEven though I'm unsure how successful they'll be
23:49.32MonetI suspect the rose is related to the red rose of Lancashire, which is a northern county (Labour's historically been pretty popular up in the northern counties)
23:50.25DrodoEmpirehttp://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AFP_Getty-523166399.jpg - This'd be a *really* good reference picture for Drodo colonial cavalry, or infantry for that matter.
23:50.32DrodoEmpireMight have to keep this in mind for a sketch. :p
23:50.49Wormy_Comrade:  Its because Old Labour messed up, and as businesses made more money, people started to vote Conservatives in.  the Thatcher era began, then after that, Labour was forced to get closer and closer until they are Torie-lite.  Though many people still say even the Tories of the lesser of two evils
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23:51.47Technobliteratoroh god I hope my parents sorted out registering to vote
23:51.50DrodoEmpireConsidering that the colonial militias are equipped in a similar way to the first or second world war uniform-wise, it'd seem to be pretty cool in contrast to all of the super-advanced sci-fi stuff. :p
23:52.09TechnobliteratorI just know any vote is a vote that's not for UKIP
23:52.21TechnobliteratorI wish we could negative-vote parties :p
23:52.26DrodoEmpirelol
23:52.27MonetTechnobliterater: For you or for the family?
23:52.37TechnobliteratorOur political system should be run like redfit
23:52.40Monet(registering I mean)
23:52.40Technobliteratorreddit*
23:52.42Technobliteratorfor me
23:53.02MonetI think it was a do-it-yourself policy this year...
23:53.38Technobliteratoreh, I think it's fucked
23:54.08Technobliteratorwhatever, Green Party won't win anyway ;_;
23:55.00DrodoEmpireDemocracy's dumb. Y'all should just give the monarchy all its power back
23:55.08DrodoEmpireWhat could possibly go wrong?
23:56.15Wormy_75% Green party, 72% Labour, 54% Lib Dem, 32% Conservative
23:56.29Technobliteratordemocracy is the worst form of government, but the best one we have
23:56.35Tek0516We have elections this year and I honestly have no idea who to vote for
23:56.36Technobliterator-Karl Marx
23:57.01Tek0516Democracy is a great idea, except humanity.
23:57.01DrodoEmpireMarx was pretty ehh in terms of ideas
23:57.07DrodoEmpireBut that's an awesome quote
23:57.13DrodoEmpireTek: Exactly.
23:57.44TechnobliteratorMarx said a lot of interesting things, but that's the only thing he ever said that I agree with
23:57.45Wormy_Democracy seems most open to the open-ended progress of knowledge
23:58.10TechnobliteratorOn his death bed, he said "go away, last words are for fools who haven't said enough"
23:58.45TechnobliteratorI disagree with this because, well, the sheer irony is that the fact those last words became famous disproves his point .__.
23:58.55Wormy_development of new ideas with comittment to fallibility and criticism/errror correction
23:59.28Wormy_ONly I could misspell error correction
23:59.36DrodoEmpirehur
23:59.53DrodoEmpireAgain, if only humans were as perfect. :p Its why most systems don't work well

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