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08:03.20Liquid_InkHello
08:05.22GhelaeHello.
08:06.17GhelaeHave you checked the #cyrannus logs to see how Wormy and I continued that discussion yesterday?
08:07.11Liquid_InkNo, I'll look low
08:07.13Liquid_Ink*now
08:08.26Liquid_Ink"There's no such thing as "pure energy", so nothing could technically be less realistic than life that's made from it." I knew that, that's why I said that gaseous and liquid life was more realistic than it. Yet it appears so often in fiction.
08:09.11Liquid_InkThe reason why I asked about beings made of gas was to get a more decent scientific stuff for energy beings rather than saying "made from PURE ENERGY"
08:09.18Liquid_InkAnd yes, it has to be capitalised.
08:10.06GhelaeIndeed.
08:10.38GhelaeUfog would be the most realistic alternative, though.
08:10.58GhelaeGas tends to diffuse and liquid tends to go "splat" on the floor.
08:11.18Liquid_InkUfog?
08:11.43Liquid_Inkfigures that out by continuing to read the logs.
08:17.25Liquid_InkDon't you love it when Wormy goes into one of his little rants?
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09:02.53Liquid_InkHello
10:00.06GhelHello.
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10:09.50ImperiosEllo
10:10.14GhelHello.
10:10.14AdmiralPandahi
10:12.46ImperiosHm...
10:13.15ImperiosI cannot decide whether to make my Mesoamerican-esque humans build their cities in a jungle or in a desert
10:13.50GhelJungle seems more typically Mesoamerican to me.
10:13.56GhelOr stereotypically.
10:15.28GhelWhy not both?
10:15.43GhelAs in, build them in both jungles and deserts.
10:32.35ImperiosHm... that would mean there are four main Tropical Land human populations.
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10:32.54ImperiosFreelanders, Khoyan'xa, Karacay, and these disfigured Shiarchon fanboy humies
10:32.55ImperiosHi Mon
10:33.15AdmiralPandah Monet
10:33.16GhelHello.
10:33.22MonetHi
10:55.16MonetI wonder if I ma have made Uriel a little too nice for a man of his position.
10:55.59MonetThat or he's just very good at controlling his temper
10:58.19AdmiralPandaI think it's the latter
10:58.32AdmiralPandaremember what he did to the guy who tortured his daughter? I don't think that's the extent of his rage
10:59.06MonetYet when he did I distinctly remember that he took several users by surprise
11:01.42MonetWhich makes even me to dread the potential result of him completely flipping his shit.
11:03.43MonetHe has gone further than "almost choking a slaver to death" in other universes, however in those his actions were combined by a gradually failing sense of sanity.
11:05.10MonetFrom my perspective losing your shit under full faculties is more powerful than losing your shit combined with a case of the crazies.
11:05.23Monetpowerful an effect*
11:05.41AdmiralPandayou know, I once wondered what Tyraz would be like if he was pushed past insanity like Hel' was
11:05.59AdmiralPandait's a scary prospect
11:06.27MonetI recall we have been given hints. Remember Tyraz's Demon persona?
11:06.52AdmiralPandamhm, if it functions similarly to Hel', then Tyraz and his Demon would be joined
11:07.16MonetWe might get all demon form al lthe time
11:07.44AdmiralPandaexcept a demon form in perfect control of his actions
11:09.38MonetActually if I recall correctly for the most part when we see Demon Form that is Demon - Demon once mentioned to Arsac that when Tyraz undergoes transformation, Demon takes over to contain the energies and prevent Tyraz's body from destroying itself due to a power overload
11:10.55MonetArsac once took a trip inside Tyraz's head and he did encounter the Tyraz we know - as a scared little boy holding a toy sword
11:11.02MonetThis was several years ago though
11:11.51MonetBut you are right, Demon will be in full control
11:12.44AdmiralPandanot just Demon
11:12.48AdmiralPandaa mix of Demon and Tyraz
11:13.03AdmiralPandaall of both of them, fused together inextricably
11:13.19AdmiralPandano distinction between the two, both working in cohesion for the better of the whole
11:13.36AdmiralPandathat's why Hel' is so dangerous- both sides of him work in perfect harmony at the same time
11:14.16MonetThat's the tamed Demon state - the two personalities will merge and the user will have full control.
11:14.46MonetHowever in this case, it will be Demon calling all the shots because its sick of being rejected nd ignored and wants to take over
11:15.03AdmiralPandaI was just talking about if Tyraz was affected the way Hel' was
11:15.17MonetOh right.
11:15.31MonetYeah that's Tamed Demon.
11:16.37MonetThe only two entities that are known about who have achieved this state are Zagdala Breek and Kordan Rex.
11:16.43ImperiosMonet: I think I imagine Uriel's personality to be a mask
11:17.21MonetImperios: Yeah?
11:17.45ImperiosThe Paragon's position is a REALLY lofty one
11:18.25ImperiosI imagine he has to cast this nice-yet-powerful persona to maintain the Imperium's stance in the Gigaquadrant
11:19.05MonetHowever, the Alcanti Royal Academy has been conducting a clandestine research project to understand how to attain the Tamed Demon state. There's a small section of the Zazane population who have somehow attained Awakensed Sin and despise the fact they have become mosnsters as a result
11:20.08MonetImperios: That's an interesting theory. I think I've indicated on his page that service in the ITN may have fostered some darker side to him.
11:20.48ImperiosThen again if he was that he'd be similar to Iovera
11:21.16Imperios"Maintaining a mask" is what Iovera has been doing for the entirety of her life
11:21.59ImperiosAlthough that is what most Radeons do in general
11:22.00ImperiosHm.
11:22.38MonetRadeons and Isio'Nar
11:22.39ImperiosCome to think about it, does the Divinarium seem like a nice place to live?
11:22.41ImperiosYa
11:23.14MonetI see it as "okay so long as you follow the rules"
11:23.53ImperiosIts life quality is arguably the highest in Andromeda, but the social pressure and conformism it fosters would probably break most people who weren't born there
11:24.13MonetAlthough personally I'd be forever apprehensive living there. I'm an artist I NEED freedom of thought
11:24.23ImperiosYa
11:24.46ImperiosThe Divinarium as it is now is essentially *both* an utopia and dystopia, from my point of view at least
11:25.18Monet"Paraise for those who serve its will unquestioningly"
11:25.23ImperiosYep
11:25.27MonetParadise*
11:25.37ImperiosProbably while there are places like Praestol
11:25.45ImperiosSpeaking of which I should probably finish its page at last
11:25.51MonetYes
11:26.01ImperiosAnd make a page about Thessina
11:26.19ImperiosMy problem is that unlike, say, Oluap, I can't make short pages
11:26.24MonetPraestol's the kind of planet that outcasts dream of, where they can live how they please without a watchful eye of the government
11:26.27ImperiosThey make my eyes bleed slightly
11:27.17MonetThat drink that was mentioned in one of the ads we saw sounds like its illegal across most of the AGC
11:27.32Imperiosdefinitely
11:27.59Monetdrinks that cause memory loss and death are like ban bate to food standards firms
11:28.07Monetbait*
11:28.27ImperiosIt was mostly a light-hearted joke hur
11:28.33ImperiosBut yeah I imagine so
11:28.51MonetI know, it was a good joke. Especially the microscopic fine-print
11:29.00ImperiosI personally imagine Praestol to be the Andromedan version of Hong Kong
11:29.39MonetI don't have much experience of Hong Kong's economy or legalities
11:29.52MonetBut I am reminded of Illium from Mass Effect 2
11:29.57ImperiosWell it's one of the most free markets in the planet
11:30.01ImperiosAlso, TRIADS
11:31.14MonetWas Praestol's anti-Commonwealth undertones inspired by local sentiment during British wondership of Hong Kong?
11:31.22Monetownership*
11:32.18ImperiosSorta
11:33.02ImperiosThe March's thugs are closer to Neo-Nazis though
11:33.17MonetIn my lack of knowledge of what Hong Kong is like culturally, I prefer it to be independant or British, since I dun like the authoritarian Chinese government
11:33.30ImperiosAsk LawfulInsane
11:33.34ImperiosHe's Cantonese AFAIK
11:34.46MonetALthough regarding masks...there's the Paragon cult of personality
11:35.42ImperiosTrue
11:35.47ImperiosUriel has to appease them
11:35.59MonetI've mentioned that he's not all that fussed about what they do, but I have also shown on a story in my stuff page that he does use it to further his own agenda.
11:39.10MonetOn a draconis planet that suffered an ablation cascade and regressed int oa victorian society, he uses their mythology to encourage them to join the Imperium, as well as enlightening the plnaet's monarch as to what "paragavatus" (a word from an ancient dialect to them) means.
11:41.08MonetI got one comment asked about why he didn't consider trying to dissolve the worship of the paragons on that planet.
11:43.14MonetFrom a secular viewpoint he *is* letting them think he is a god.
11:43.26MonetWHich is a questionable thing to do
11:44.58MonetBut dissolving the belief could have negative shockwaves though the rest of the cult scattered across the Imperium
11:45.12Monetbelief on that planet*
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11:51.45dromUrgh, I'm feeling very tired.
11:52.08dromJust like, the sun is taking all my energy.
11:52.51ImperiosHi OP
11:53.12OluapPlayerhi
11:54.09ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Tropical_Lands I added my humies there
11:54.18OluapPlayerI've seen
11:55.24MonetHello you two
11:58.26Imperiosdrom: Praise it
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12:18.59HachimanHey
12:19.30dromImperios: Praise to what?
12:19.47dromTF2's update with breads makes me hungry.
12:20.39HachimanSo I'm watching this sci-fi horror movie, Pandorum, and the film opens with the main character waking up from cryostasis - covered in a layer of dead skin he's been unable to shed while asleep
12:20.40HachimanSo the first minute or so in his introduction is just him peeling this layer of flabby dead skin from his body
12:21.00HachimanI'm wondering if that would be an occurence in cryostasis
12:24.06ImperiosI assume so
12:24.08Imperiosdrom: the Sun
12:24.10ImperiosHi Hachi
12:24.36MonetHachiman: If it was though cryogenic stasis then perhaps not
12:25.15MonetWhile the vody does regularly shed skin it is true, the idea of cryogenic stasis is to slow down the body's processes to a near-preserved state.
12:25.19Monetbody*
12:26.23dromImperios: I guess I am a stage 1 vampire.
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12:26.43GD12Hello
12:27.13MonetThis process also slows down cell division and metabolism. So unless it somehow kept the person alive with all bodily processes proceeding as normal yet preventing degenerative ageing, no, a person in suspended animation won't eventually get buried under their own dead skin.
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12:29.08dromHey there GD12
12:29.52dromdemn bread is making me hungry for breasd, what a nice luck that we are going to have smörgåstårta tomorrow.
12:30.11HachimanSmorgastarta?
12:30.33HachimanIs that Viking for "picnic"
12:31.38GD12i googled it and it does look good
12:32.45dromHachiman: Noh, a cake of Swedish pride. http://www.ica.se/imagevaultfiles/id_25802/cf_1286/666905_hog_o_kramig_b200904.jpg
12:33.34ImpyDroidLooks like a salad
12:34.48dromIt's a bread cake with salad, sliced egg, cumucber, tomato and prawns. There's variants though.
12:35.11dromIt's best served as cold.
12:35.33dromOr mild for some.
12:37.14HachimanCake with vegetables
12:37.16HachimanEw
12:37.24GD12bread cake w/ut sugar
12:37.25GD12hao
12:37.36HachimanBecause cake and vegetabkes
12:37.39Hachiman*vegetables
12:37.55dromAnd prawns, mind you.
12:37.58GD12vegetbikes even
12:38.18dromveggy bikes.
12:38.32dromnever knew that bikes could eat humans
12:38.43HachimanYou know I imagine that vessels in the future will be fitted with procedures to prevent decomposition and decay in order to keep the crew and edible resources healthier
12:38.53ImpyDroidya
12:38.57GD12anyway i can  gt bck to work on fiction once i return to my home from travel in around 20 hours or so
12:39.08GD12stasis for steak
12:39.10HachimanWhich means that corpses on-board vessels I imagine would go through a state of mummification rather than actual bodily decomposition
12:39.23HachimanLoss of bodily liquids and nothing else
12:39.27ImpyDroidWell without microorganisms, nothing would decompose
12:39.39ImpyDroidSo yeah
12:39.42MonetThis is true
12:40.19MonetWell, skin would pale and hair would go white as well
12:41.03MonetBut other than that, so long as you remove all resident bacteria and fungi the body shouldn't decay.
12:41.35MonetViruses are a non-issue because they require living cells to reproduce.
12:43.02dromCabbage pudding is even a real thing in Sweden.
12:44.01ImpyDroidNow I thought of something.
12:44.14ImpyDroidAre there any space hulk-like ships in the Fictionverse?
12:44.24GD12ngh healthy things
12:44.25HachimanAs in, embedded into comets
12:44.27Hachiman?
12:44.43ImpyDroidAs in, huge derelict ships
12:45.14dromGD12: It contains meat anyway. http://cdn.arla.se/Files/1225492162/8c748280-25ec-43e6-bb0d-65c1902829b8.jpg?preset=Main
12:45.26GD12i c
12:45.49GD12i dont think they get derelict since theres alot of accountability among ships that use non warp
12:45.55GD12i mean warp as in 40k usage
12:46.07GD12because there aent and hyperspatial storms of warp (startrek) sroms
12:46.40MonetI have used derelict ships once or twice in my fiction.
12:47.21MonetBut if you're looking for space hulks as in "derelict made up of a mishmash of ships" the only exampe lI can think of was what Regnatus did with the Iron Fist.
12:48.10OluapPlayerThe Iron Fist was a mishmash of ships before Vorius found it
12:48.21ImpyDroidYeah
12:48.24Monetmy understanding is realspace is way too vast for that to happen
12:49.25MonetAnd when objects collide in orbit around a planet or moon they're more likely to smash each other into thousands of tiny tiny pieces
12:49.59ImpyDroidHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Tropical_Lands I added (more of) my humans
12:50.32MonetSpace hulks in 40K happen because the Warp is "fuck logic" made manifest.
12:50.54ImpyDroidYa
12:52.54MonetObjects in orbit move way too fast to cngeal
12:54.29GD12bbl
12:54.44MonetSaturn's rings are made up of ice fragments that are rarely bigger than a two-story house and are constantly smashing against other ice fragments (and admittedly congealing on ocasion because ice is sticky).
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12:54.57Wormyhi
12:55.01MonetHi
12:55.12WormyI believe the Christians think that Christ has returned
12:55.21MonetAgain?
12:55.47WormyI'm seeing "He is risen" signs everywhere, not just in one town or city but right through East Midlands
12:56.02HachimanI think they mean either Godzilla or Jesus
12:56.12OluapPlayerThere's a difference?
12:56.26Wormy"He is risen" is rather bad grammar
12:57.18HachimanMonet: Apparently Tywin Lannister is voicing Emperor Emhyr var Emreis in Witcher 3
12:58.43MonetShiiiit...
12:59.40MonetEmhyr is emperor of what I can best describe as the Aldmeri Dominion in the Witcher Series
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13:00.14GD12well apparently i don't have to go down now hur
13:00.16GD12hi wormy
13:00.22GD12i read that you read the section on the logs
13:00.43Wormyhi
13:00.43MonetIt was largely based on the Roman Empire and hile the Northern kingdoms treat elves and dwarves like shit, the Empire of Nifgaard is the Roman Empire led by elves.
13:01.33MonetNilfgaard*
13:01.34dromHelp, my legs feel like they don't want to carry me anymore.
13:05.05ImpyDroidWormy: 'He is risen' is not bad grammar
13:05.08MonetSorry. I'm jsut suddenly exited that Witcher 3 will include the most poweful political figure in the setting's world as well as the ability to see the Witcher's resident Evil EMpire.
13:05.31ImpyDroid"be" + v3 is an archaic form of a perfective
13:05.43WormyIts bad grammar today
13:06.14ImpyDroidWhat about "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds"?
13:07.40WormyOppenheimer was quoting a word frrom the Baghavad Gita translated
13:07.53GD12Yeah
13:07.59GD12During the trinity test
13:08.04Wormy*Bhagavad gita
13:13.01dromHas is better, we should stop employing bad translators.
13:19.52MonetHachiman Imperios Is there any possibility we could do Realm of Giants or start the Shattering today?
13:20.04HachimanIt's a possibility
13:20.08HachimanBut not right now
13:21.01WormyMonet:  Solar Freakin Roadways have responded to Thunderf00t  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI8c2f8r0UU
13:21.10MonetNot right now no, but later
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13:22.55Sporeraptorhi
13:23.03HachimanYou know what the Fictionverse doesn't have enough of; adorable elf races
13:23.10HachimanAnd nekos
13:24.43WormyThat 2 million dollars could have gone to medical science or even alternative energy concepts that actually work.
13:26.41Monet"glass is harder than asphalt"
13:27.09MonetIf that was true how come a footbal ldoes mre damage ot a glass pane than it does to an asphalt road?
13:28.36WormyGlass has a Moh's scale of hardness of only 5-6
13:29.45WormyThat means dirt with grains of minerals harder than it, and there are plenty of them about, on tires, will scratch the glass to uselessness
13:31.08WormyThey could use sapphire glass but then a small fragment would go straight through a car window.
13:31.21Wormyand its 100x more expensive
13:31.58MonetI feel sad that we live in an age where knowledge and information is more accessable than it has ever been in the past and still some people don't quite graps the basics of science.
13:32.05Monetgrasp*
13:32.35WormyThe couple behind the solar roadways say they source their glass from recycled glass, so it will neither be any grade or quality
13:33.37WormyIts because solar power sounds sciencey, people automatically assume it as authority, as something to trust.
13:34.09WormySad, because the lesson of science is to "take no-one's word for it"
13:35.57Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/i0zVQr2.png?1 Boom, remade drow/Derevar
13:36.08MonetI remember doing a powerpoint presentation on the misconceptions generated by the general public abotu the scientific community. One exampe I gave was how peopel were frightened that there was a slim chance that the LHC would create a black hole
13:36.11OluapPlayerdem pecs
13:36.21MonetVery skinny
13:36.37HachimanWell they're elves, elves are supposed to be skinny hur
13:36.45HachimanThat and the previous model was 70% legs
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13:37.06JepardiHi
13:37.57OluapPlayeraye
13:38.05OluapPlayerDrow, more like Legs
13:38.06HachimanShould I leave a redirect behind?
13:38.08ImpyDroidHachiman: They look sinister
13:38.17ImpyDroidAlso slanted eyes hur
13:38.17ImpyDroidYeah
13:38.23OluapPlayerI'm not a fan of fiction redirects
13:38.54HachimanIf I don't include a redirect wouldn't that red link all the links of drow?
13:39.06MonetIt would
13:39.18MonetI say leave a redirect behind, its not like it inconveniences anyone
13:39.20WormySolar panels are quite inefficient still.  If people finding solar roadways truly do care, they should fund research instead
13:39.41MonetWOrmy: This idea of using recycled glass sounds like pandering ot environmentalists t ome
13:39.51OluapPlayerWell you can do that
13:39.55OluapPlayerI'm just saying I wouldn't do it
13:40.19WormyCould well be
13:43.51WormyThat claim that the turing test has been passed by a machine is also nonsense http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/11/turing-test-computer-simulates-boy
13:43.56HachimanWould it be justified to call the Derevar "Mirror Elves", as they are a sorta anti-image of Koldenwelti elves?
13:44.30WormyYou know, I wonder if the media is behind a lot of misconceptions of science in the public
13:45.52MonetWormy: I' ve come to conclude that.
13:45.57OluapPlayerHachiman: Can't see why note
13:45.58OluapPlayernot
13:46.11MonetHachiman: Not sure on that one.
13:46.32WormyI've noticed quite a few real computer scientists and AI researchers arguing against the claim
13:46.41HachimanWell I can't think of a better name currently hur
13:47.54MonetMos Empire humans for instance consider all evles dicks
13:51.42HachimanImpyDroid: What could I call the Derevar?
13:52.00ImpyDroidHmmm
13:52.12HachimanWhat I got in mind is Mirror Elves but I think a better name can be decided
13:52.29MonetShadow elves?
13:52.37HachimanHmm
13:52.43HachimanShadow Elves isn't bad
13:52.46HachimanI like it hur
13:52.55OluapPlayerShadow Elves sounds a bit too much like Dark Elves
13:52.59OluapPlayeraka Shiarchon
13:53.23WormyWhen this happens, I'll be more convinced http://xkcd.com/329/
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13:54.00MonetWell duh, Drow are dark elves in most settigs
13:54.16OluapPlayerYeah and we already got dark elves in our setting
13:54.19Monet"shadow" refers to their deceptive nature.
13:54.20ImpyDroidShadow elves?
13:54.23ImpyDroid...damn ninjad
13:54.36ImpyDroid'Lost Elves', perhaps?
13:54.44ImpyDroidA bit like the Lost Draenei
13:54.51HachimanHmm, Lost Elves is good
14:01.31MonetWormy: Remember the MMR controversy?
14:07.37MonetEveryone was wored into a panic about a poorly researched paper that everyone treated as true
14:08.21MonetThen there was the misinformation that autism could be cured lik any disease.
14:09.01MonetBarmy things like using chenicals to forcefully expel trace heavy metals from the autistic child's body.
14:16.29MonetThere is no greater tool for public control or manipulation than misinformation passed off as truth.
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14:19.49Hachimanhai
14:20.50MonetHi
14:20.57HachimanI mean
14:20.58Hachimandumbo
14:22.06WormyIndeed
14:22.07OluapPlayerdumba
14:22.50Technobliteratorya dad
14:22.52Technobliterators
14:38.02ImpyDroidhai
14:42.20MonetImpyDroid Hachiman: What time might be good for you two for fiction stuff?
14:44.52ImpyDroidSoon
14:46.12ImpyDroidI'm returning from roller skating at the moment
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14:56.19OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#The_First_Attack vampires and shi
14:57.09HachimanOoh I really like the new pic on that page
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14:57.55OluapPlayerKanna would be in it
14:58.03OluapPlayerBut you never uploaded his PNG
14:58.23Hachiman...
14:58.24HachimanFuck
15:13.43Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/t1.0-9/995499_10151711777561840_1392710695_n.jpg
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15:15.18Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/1959958_10152279766083676_1936076907_n.jpg Holy shit, this is how rain looks from a plane
15:15.30OluapPlayerPretty hur
15:16.26Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10461370_730332683689834_453990694255650318_n.jpg
15:16.46OluapPlayerdat shark
15:20.02HachimanI'm wondering what sorta society I should give to the independent Derevar
15:20.13HachimanOr even if there should be independent Derevar at all
15:22.00MonetHmm. That's an interesting question.
15:22.43HachimanAlso everybody reed http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#The_First_Attack
15:23.22MonetAlthough living as a small independant community in times lik the Fantasyverse has its dangers
15:24.32HachimanI should say that the Derevar were largely independent and lived in the lands that would become the home territory for Count Dalverat and Castle Nightshade
15:25.02HachimanAfter Dalverat and the vampires were created, the Derevar were warded away from those lands
15:25.43HachimanOluapPlayer: I imagine that since Derevar are anti-magical in nature, there aren't any Derevar vampires
15:27.06OluapPlayerHachiman: Makes sense
15:31.12HachimanImpyDroid2: Gimme some name ideas for the Sovereign!Derevar capital
15:35.09HachimanWhy is IRC dead
15:35.16OluapPlayercus u dum
15:36.27MonetI waswatching this hypothetical video on if a Godzilla attack was real. One thing the video pointed out was the stupidity we have seen from the US military in these film is somewhat justifiable - Godzilla is a priorrity target and killing a beast that powerful may be more important than saving any lives caught in his vicinity
15:37.06HachimanThat doesn't justify the lack of evacuation
15:37.44Monetlast-minute evacuations of a major metropolitan city are a pain in the arse as we saw.
15:38.12MonetPrettymuch moments after it was announced that Godzilla was coming a city's streets would be gridlocked with traffic
15:39.20MonetThat's the downside of our modern cities. We rely so much on road infrastructure that a mass evacuation of any large city wold have to deal with traffic congestion
15:40.11MonetA city like San Francisco would need a day or two to get everyone out, which as we saw fro mthe pace of the film - was time they didn't have
15:42.00HachimanHmm, I wonder if Devarar hybrids are possible or not
15:42.12HachimanThe Devarar may be compatible with humans but perhaps not with other elves
15:42.59OluapPlayerdats so hipster
15:43.03OluapPlayerCreature:Hipster Elf
15:43.07Hachimanolol
15:43.39HachimanWell the Devarar are anti-magical creatures and they're generally considered naturally unpleasant to be around by magical creatures
15:43.51HachimanHumans aren't magical creatures like elves are
15:44.51HachimanEch I hate not having anything to listen to while I write
15:45.05OluapPlayerListen to Monster Hunter music hur
15:45.33Monetbbl
15:50.31ImpyDroid2Hachiman: Hmmmm
15:51.54ImpyDroid2Umbral Refuge? Shadow Harborage?
15:52.33HachimanI like Umbral Refuge
15:53.55ImpyDroid2I imagine most elven cities to have descriptive names for some reason
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15:55.16OfficerJackalHello!
15:56.20GhelHello.
15:58.00Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10384473_852710221416657_1593308044488433447_n.jpg Sleeping baby giraffe
15:58.37OluapPlayergiriffi
15:58.38ImpyDroid2etuC
15:59.15WormyImpyDroid2:  Is this good grammar?  "The continents Laurussia and Gondwana were forming a vast global continent, Pangaea, meeting at the equator.  The Laurussian foreland..."
15:59.29WormyShould I use a ; ?
15:59.48Wormybefore ir after Panaea
15:59.49ImpyDroid2Don't think so
16:00.13Wormycool thanks
16:02.06HachimanImpyDroid2: How tall would you say humans are in the Fantasyverse
16:02.15HachimanI can imagine Derevar being roughly human-sized
16:04.04ImpyDroid2Slightly shorter than IRL humies, in general
16:09.10ImpyDroid2like 168 cm or something
16:10.56HachimanWhat's that in meters hur
16:11.12OluapPlayer1,68
16:11.15OluapPlayerdumbo
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17:09.43Imperiosfoooh, back
17:10.10OluapPlayerImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#The_First_Attack chek
17:11.29ImperiosNiiice
17:11.32ImperiosI like the little details
17:13.24ImperiosLike Khensu's statue, for exmaple
17:13.38ImperiosIt kinda helps to flesh out the lore
17:13.42OluapPlayer:>
17:14.07OluapPlayerJavina is supposed to be introduced in 2 sections from now btw
17:20.14Imperiosrite
17:20.20ImperiosDo you have anything in mind for her arrival?
17:20.54OluapPlayerI don't
17:22.07ImperiosSince they're in the Sea of Sand, they could actually visit Alhassal
17:22.17OluapPlayerThey're not at the Sea of Sand
17:22.27OluapPlayerThey're at the Tropical Lands atm
17:22.55ImperiosOh, right
17:28.41ImperiosMy mistake
17:35.32ImperiosRight, in that case
17:35.44ImperiosHachi: Seen the Freelander sections?
17:35.49ImperiosI ask you because Oluap already ahs
17:36.23HachimanI think I have
17:36.26HachimanActually I dunno
17:36.42Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Derevar_Elf#History How is this?
17:37.01OluapPlayerThe Source link is goofed
17:37.34ImperiosNice
17:37.43ImperiosI like
17:38.53OluapPlayerYeah it's pretty good
17:39.39ImperiosEspecially since you've given them some dwarven qualities as well, which is unusual
17:40.04HachimanDwarven?
17:41.08ImperiosAside from living underground (it's a usual drow trait anyway) they were once miners, are anti-magic and use/used unique metals
17:43.14HachimanI imagine the lands of the Nightshade Clan to be littered with Derevar skeletons and remnants of old Derevar architecture
17:43.55OluapPlayerskellies
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17:44.06HachimanI should say that the flooding of the Derevar's underground tunnels was probably the nail in the head for their race
17:44.13Hachiman*nail in the coffin
17:44.23HachimanHai
17:44.38ImperiosHi Mon
17:44.42OluapPlayerhi
17:44.42ImperiosNail in the head
17:44.43ImperiosOuch
17:44.55MonetHello
17:45.11HachimanSince the Derevar refused to expand significantly beyond the Shadow Grottos, I imagine they would've expanded downwards in their tunnels like ants
17:45.29HachimanThem being flooded and collapsed would mean that many, many Derevar would've died
17:46.39HachimanAlso feel free to suggest other events that could've occured in their history
17:48.19ImperiosWell there probably had to be some interaction between them and the Ordnung
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17:48.35Hachiman_Fuck off shitty internet
17:48.49Hachiman_Anyway, feel free to suggest other events that could've occured in the Derevar's history
17:50.57Imperios[21:48] <Imperios> Well there probably had to be some interaction between them and the Ordnung
17:51.56Hachiman_D'you think the Dragonrise would've affected them?
17:52.11ImperiosI imagine so
17:55.22Hachiman_Also would you say the Derevar are purple or dark blue?
17:55.31ImperiosThey're indigo :P
17:55.37Hachiman_rite
17:58.51WormyIs anyone going to watch the opening ceremony
17:59.04ImperiosUh?
17:59.07WormyI'm not big on football but I might anyway
17:59.15WormyWorld Cup Brazil
17:59.29OluapPlayerlol no
18:00.02MonetNah. Not keen on football
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18:00.35Wormyhi
18:00.44OluapPlayerOnly good thing about the World Cup is taht it gives me an excuse to stay at home today
18:01.02GD12Hi
18:01.04Wormyhah
18:01.32WormyI bet its been well overhyped
18:01.36Wormyby the media
18:01.55WormyTbh I got sick of the hype for the London Olympics
18:03.16Hachiman_I hope there's a terrorist scare so it gets cancelled
18:03.29OluapPlayerToo far
18:04.04WormyThe NSA will be watching you Hachi closely
18:04.14Hachiman_Whoops
18:05.13Hachiman_Honestly though, I think the World Cup is both pointless and utterly shameful
18:05.26Wormyyeah
18:06.21Hachiman_No doubt that the flood of tourists is gonna work against Brazil's favour
18:06.32Hachiman_Considering how fucking roudy football fans are
18:06.47Wormyugh
18:06.50MonetI saw something on Sky News about "Brazil Riots" earlier
18:06.54Wormyfootie fans
18:07.11Hachiman_Yeah the Brazil riots have something to do with the public transport services I think, not sure
18:07.24OluapPlayerThey do
18:07.30MonetHah
18:07.47OluapPlayerThey want bigger salaries
18:07.53OluapPlayerWhen they're already very well paid
18:07.59Monet"We can't all get on the bus. FIIIIGHT"
18:08.27OluapPlayerNot buses, trains
18:08.46MonetReally footie fans?
18:09.00OluapPlayerThis has nothing to do with football fans
18:09.02MonetPeople in India stand up and even hang onto the trains.
18:09.09Monetoh
18:09.13Monetmy bad
18:09.22OluapPlayerThe people driving the trains are the ones rioting
18:10.01OluapPlayerAnd it's causing a shitstorm because a lot of people depend on the trains to move around, go to work etc
18:10.54OluapPlayerThese shitters have no reason to be rioting, they probably gain more per month than I do per year
18:10.57WormyThe Fire and Rescue services in the East Midlands are having a strike about pensions
18:11.04Wormyright now
18:11.16WormySo I hope I don't get any fire tonight
18:11.32MonetI saw that
18:11.35Hachiman_http://i.imgur.com/3nG92ae.jpg
18:11.53OluapPlayerImperios: Is there a "general" clothed human model?
18:12.20ImperiosGeneric as in
18:12.25ImperiosThere are several, ya
18:12.39OluapPlayerI want a generic human so I can make a generic vampire picture
18:12.44MonetOne guy got interviewed and mentioned one of the reasons for the protests is that after foreme pass the time when they are physically fit, they may as well be unemployed
18:12.53Imperiosrite
18:13.25ImperiosI generally see two human models as generic, Mannazian and Alhassan
18:13.29ImperiosWhich one you'd prefer?
18:13.52MonetHachiman: Lol, so self centred PC guy
18:14.02OluapPlayerMannazian I gues
18:14.26Angrybirdshttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140612100127/spore/images/0/03/Manticore.png
18:15.00ImperiosActually, wait, no
18:15.08ImperiosSaphronian model would work best
18:15.13OluapPlayerrite
18:15.15OluapPlayergimme then
18:15.18ImperiosIt's the most modern one and Saphronia is the closest to vampire lands anyway
18:15.21ImperiosSave for Hopedan
18:15.42Imperioshttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140612181454/spore/images/d/d9/Saphronian_Tribal_Warrior_PNG.png saphronia stronk
18:15.57MonetAngryBords: It looks like the manticore has a hole in its tail fin
18:15.57OluapPlayerhumies
18:16.24OluapPlayerhttp://static.tumblr.com/0aa2203bc9f0d83b6dec03430147e383/e3zsoqi/gzqmttvxe/tumblr_static_manticore_by_kikicianjur-d384nro.jpg dats not a manticore
18:17.16WormyEnts
18:17.25WormyEnts have taken over the stadium
18:18.18ImperiosChop them
18:18.33ImperiosI actually wonder what complexion would Javina have if vampirised
18:18.44OluapPlayerWhat do you mean complexion
18:18.52WormyI read that has vapourised
18:19.00MonetOluapPlayer: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Two_F-22A_Raptor_in_column_flight_-_%28Noise_reduced%29.jpg nor does this look liek a raptor
18:19.12OluapPlayeryeh dats not a raptor
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18:19.24GD12Hello
18:19.26MonetIn a way it is
18:19.40Imperioscomplexion as in skin colour
18:19.41Wormyhi
18:19.45MonetThe US F-22 is dubbed the "Raptor"
18:19.54OluapPlayerShe'd become paler and get fangs
18:19.57OluapPlayerThat's it
18:20.20WormyShe would avoid garlic
18:24.23MonetOluapPlayer: Giving a vehicle a cool, theatening, symbolic or exiting name is a requirement for modern military equipment.
18:24.44WormySPITFIRE
18:24.53WormyLove that name
18:25.30MonetLike "Challenger", "Dreadnought", "superfortress", "Typhoon" "Raptor"
18:25.52GD12aye
18:26.05GD12Spirit Nighthawk Lancer
18:26.21GD12A Russian missile is called Satan hur
18:26.42MonetLol
18:27.13MonetI follwoed this tradition with DI warships: Battlemaster, warlord, sunwrath, dragonfire
18:27.40AngrybirdsMonet: That's because modern militaries kind of need to justify buying that equipment to their people.
18:27.49ImperiosToy call it that
18:27.53ImperiosYou call it that
18:28.35WormyHarrier jet
18:28.42WormyFlying Fortress
18:28.56MonetWell I guess it makes sense with Comanche and Apache helicopters.
18:29.17AngrybirdsMirage
18:29.18WormyI'd really love iot iof the Royal Navy named one of their ships, Thunderchild
18:29.22AngrybirdsRafale
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18:29.30Knight_AlienHello
18:29.47Wormyhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Correa-Martians_vs._Thunder_Child.jpg
18:29.47AngrybirdsI love the name of the Eurofighter Typhoon.
18:29.57GD12hi
18:30.04GD12Grippen
18:30.07GD12Saab Grippen irc
18:30.16GD12Su-25 Frogfoot Su-27 Flank
18:30.22GD12*er
18:30.58OluapPlayerhttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140612183042/spore/images/4/43/Vampire_Victims.png dere done
18:31.36ImperiosDem teef
18:31.38Hachiman_Nice hur
18:31.43ImperiosI like
18:31.44WormyDaring class http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_destroyer
18:31.50OluapPlayerNow the picture represents something
18:31.51MonetWormy: I think Harrier might be the company name, not sure
18:31.58OluapPlayerDoesn't matter if you're man, elf or beast
18:32.01OluapPlayerVampires can and will get you
18:32.28MonetThe one on the right looks like an alien heh
18:32.45OluapPlayerThat's a wood elf
18:33.04WormyThey definately went for a futuristic look http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Duncan_%287899777334%29.jpg
18:34.21WormyIts called a "Hawker Siddeley Harrier"
18:34.27MonetVery sleek
18:35.12WormyThats all stealth armour I think
18:35.53MonetSo it doesn't come up on radar?
18:36.56ImperiosMonet; I inteded the elves to look like Auschwitz Xenomorphs yes
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18:37.28Wormyyep it reduces http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_cross_section
18:37.37MonetImperios: I was more reminded of Greys
18:38.20MonetWormy: 50 years since the collapse of the Empire and Britains still gives good reason as to why her majesty's royal navy is one of the best navies in the world.
18:38.43Wormyindeed
18:38.53WormyThey still patrol the seas
18:39.02WormyRouting out pirates
18:40.49Hachiman_https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10418280_922252424467647_5435780368073350074_n.png
18:41.31Hachiman_https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10374924_347408892073115_933981191281134826_n.jpg What the fuck
18:41.33MonetHehe
18:42.09MonetHachiman: You have to be clever with bullies
18:43.05Wormycheckmate
18:43.23OluapPlayerPusheen <3
18:43.25Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Derevar_Elf#Characteristics
18:43.49OluapPlayer"characteristics: dey dum" -Vampire
18:44.15GD12bbl
18:44.42OluapPlayerThat female's got big boobs hur
18:46.26OluapPlayerIt's good information
18:47.57Imperios>Derevar are also noted for possessing facial hair, an uncommon trait amongst other deiwes under the classification of "elf", and which is exclusive to the males of the race
18:48.03Imperios>exclusive to the males of the race
18:48.13ImperiosThat's implying there are cases when it isn't
18:48.25OluapPlayeru never heard of bearded women hur
18:48.28Hachiman_Human women can grow facial hair
18:48.49ImperiosWell yeah I know uhr
18:48.53OluapPlayerSo I tried making a "weapon over the shoulder" picture
18:48.58OluapPlayerhttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140612184452/spore/images/1/15/Silver_Gargoyle.png but with a gargoyle
18:49.01ImperiosSuddenly I just thought of something
18:49.05OluapPlayerIt looks funnier than it should
18:49.10Hachiman_He looks so proud
18:49.18ImperiosSpeaking of bearded women
18:49.19Hachiman_Silver Gargoyle - eyyyyy
18:49.20ImperiosElf Eurovision
18:49.30ImperiosHe looks satisfied
18:49.34OluapPlayerThat's a halberd he's holding mind you
18:49.55MonetFor a halberd it's REALLY tiny
18:50.09Hachiman_He's a big gargoyle hur
18:50.10OluapPlayerSilver Gargoyles are huge hur
18:50.18MonetYeah but even so
18:50.20OluapPlayerAlso there's no halberd model in Spore
18:50.42MonetHalberds are basicalyl spears with a large axehead on th end
18:51.07OluapPlayerIt's got a halberd on one hand, a shield on the other, an axe for a tail and it breaths both fire and lightning
18:51.11OluapPlayerIt'd say he has reasons to be proud
18:51.50MonetThese gargoyles seem scarily ironic
18:52.42MonetSince traditionally, gargoyles are supposed ot ward off bad spirits. Not be them
18:53.00OluapPlayerGargoyle - welcom to castle nightshade, i'll be your guide, that's the cliff, BYE
18:55.57Hachiman_Also you're all free to make Derevar characters
18:56.09Hachiman_I made them scattered and divided for a reason
18:57.29OluapPlayerDone that hur
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19:03.29OluapPlayerspu
19:03.33Hachiman_ups
19:03.46Xhome
19:03.49OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#The_First_Attack chek
19:04.11Xhoy havent i been introduced yet
19:04.21OluapPlayercus not time yet
19:04.37Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Derevar_Elf chek
19:04.50XhoDerevar Elf
19:05.09XhoShiarchon - first voledari elf then voldenaarchi then drow then derevar MAKE UP UR FUKIN MIND
19:05.27Hachiman_In this case its Derevar, aka drow
19:06.38ImperioshI cHI
19:06.41ImperiosHi Xhi
19:06.51XhoXhi
19:06.54Xhowat u smokin
19:07.46ImperiosI am smiking smiki
19:08.52ImperiosHachiman Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Tropical_Lands#Locations http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Tropical_Lands#Races There. Seen my additions yet?
19:09.25XhoI still don't know why Abyssus is part of the tropical lands
19:09.32XhoI don't see any palm trees or white sandy beaches there
19:09.43OluapPlayerIt's south
19:09.47OluapPlayerEverything south is Tropical Lands
19:09.49XhoOr jungles
19:10.06XhoOr birds, or any wildlife that pertains to a natural ecosystem
19:10.09OluapPlayerDoesn't matter if the lands are actually tropical
19:10.10Hachiman_Imperios: Nice, I like the Aztec feel to them
19:10.24ImperiosNyan
19:10.25XhoWell it's a bit of a misnomer then
19:10.32OluapPlayerSame way the Eastern Plains is full of plateaus and mountain ranges
19:11.06XhoWell there's the Southern Mountains, Ar-Klith and Great Eastern Wall
19:11.11XhoOther than that's it's pretty much flat
19:11.16OluapPlayersez u
19:11.24OluapPlayerc of sand is not even a c
19:11.26XhoWell I should know considering I made the map
19:11.41XhoAt least three times
19:12.17XhoAll I'm saying is Abyssus can't be a part of the Tropical Lands if it isn't tropical
19:12.35OluapPlayery u complicate things
19:12.37XhoThat's like calling Scotland a part of the Arctic Circle
19:13.20Xhohttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131206210841/spore/images/b/b0/NewKoldenweltTestMap.png Does Abyssus look in the slightest bit tropical to you
19:14.01OluapPlayerI don't follow the map by its appearance, I follow it by directions
19:14.12XhoBut
19:14.13OluapPlayerAnd as far as I'm concerned, everything south from the desert is Tropical Lands
19:14.18XhoIt's not geographically tropical
19:14.19XhoAt all
19:14.37XhoIt's arid and volcanic
19:14.50OluapPlayerIf it bothers you so much then make it its own region
19:14.55OluapPlayerBut I think it's unnecessary work
19:15.13XhoIt only bothers me because in geographical terms calling it tropical is incorrect
19:16.11MonetI can see another division working because Abyssus only borders the tropical lands in one direction
19:16.13XhoIf Abyssus did have any hint of jungles then yes it would be tropical
19:17.46XhoBut considering it's roughly 3,200 km squared of red dust and rocks
19:19.10XhoI really need to rework the Abyssus page though
19:19.16ImperiosHm
19:19.34ImperiosHachiman_: Should I make a list of human grand monarchs?
19:20.12XhoI also need to give a name to Maras' race
19:20.16XhoLemme think of one
19:20.49Monethttp://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/163/b/0/uriel_poster_test_2_by_spacer176-d7m35w2.jpg I've done some work on my Uriel picture
19:21.01MonetIn making his throen as big as I have, it takes up most of the background
19:21.03XhoLooks like it's getting there
19:22.23MonetIs the inclusion of Andromeda as I have done justified given his reputation I wonder.
19:22.37XhoWe can have either Ydrau or Orayu as Maras' race
19:22.37Hachiman_Imperios: The significant ones yes
19:22.50ImperiosWait
19:22.53ImperiosOn Terminus's picture
19:22.57Imperios*quote
19:23.01XhoTerminus has a picture now?
19:23.04XhoWhen did I add that
19:23.06MonetXho: I like Orayu.
19:23.07Imperiosquote
19:23.08ImperiosI meant quote
19:23.10XhoQuote
19:23.11Xhorite
19:23.14ImperiosXho: >floods washed away the bodies of men and mer alike
19:23.16Imperios>mer
19:23.30Hachiman_>tfw skyrim
19:23.32ImperiosWe need Thalmor now
19:23.49Xhoyou got skyrim'd
19:23.55OluapPlayerShiarchon - YOU VIOLATED THE LAW
19:24.01XhoI dunno I couldn't find a better term
19:24.11XhoMonet: Orayu it is then
19:24.12ImperiosDryadali :P
19:24.23XhoWell I didn't want any exclusive references either
19:24.30XhoDammit I'll just change it to elves
19:25.22OluapPlayerBRB
19:25.34Hachiman_imperios: What would be Ahmalhrich's status within the Empire?
19:25.38Hachiman_*Imperios
19:25.57Hachiman_As in, what sorta status would he be recognized as?
19:26.11Imperioshm
19:26.14Hachiman_Because right now I'm imagining Jesus hur
19:26.22ImperiosGeezush
19:26.23ImperiosActually
19:26.39ImperiosI imagine his status to be comparable to Jesus's status in Islam, at least among Alhassans
19:27.00Hachiman_What would that status be?
19:27.35ImperiosA precursor prophet/saint/heroic figure
19:28.01ImperiosBasically Muslims treat Jesus as one of the links in the line of prophets that begins with Moses and ends at Muhammad
19:28.52Hachiman_I wonder how the humans of the Empire react to knowing that Ahmalhrich served the Dawn Wardens - which consisted of different species
19:29.04Hachiman_If they know he did serve in the Dawn Wardens, that is
19:29.25ImperiosI think it's a fact that is only known to the more educated Imperials
19:29.31Hachiman_Actually wait
19:29.40Hachiman_There are no elves in the original Dawn Wardens
19:29.48ImperiosTrue
19:30.30Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Ahmalhrich_Stormsword Which reminds me, dis needs moar quotes plz
19:30.39Hachiman_Those who have already quoted don't need to hur
19:30.45ImperiosLike, the likes of Javina and Valdemar would know of his endeavours whereas the average human would simply see him as one of the original liberators of mankind
19:31.00Hachiman_Aye that makes sense
19:31.21ImperiosKinda like, say, the Emperor
19:31.32Hachiman_Javina - EMPRAH
19:31.41Hachiman_Or Sigmar hur
19:31.51Hachiman_Ohgod I just expied Sigmar and not even realized it
19:31.54OluapPlayerback
19:32.38OluapPlayerThere are no named elves in the original DW
19:32.46OluapPlayerBut there most certainly were elves
19:33.05Imperiosheh
19:33.24OluapPlayerI've left open the possibility of Clotholaire being a half-elf
19:33.26ImperiosJavina - *appears behind Carlini* I WILL DEEP STRIKE YOUR PERIMETER
19:33.55Hachiman_>implying Javina has a penis
19:34.16OluapPlayer>implying Javina doesn't have a penis
19:34.32Imperios>implying Javina doesn't have a scimitar
19:35.15ImperiosJavina - STRAPOOOON
19:35.18ImperiosOkay that was too much
19:35.22OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1402601471403.jpg relevant
19:35.35Hachiman_Elves don't need strap ons
19:35.38Hachiman_They have their ears
19:35.53OluapPlayerThat's fucked up
19:36.17Hachiman_Is that pun intended
19:36.36OluapPlayerNo, go finish Derevar page
19:39.57Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140612193910/spore/images/4/4c/OrayuMandF.png There we go
19:40.14OluapPlayerfishy
19:40.39Hachiman_Are they still around?
19:41.05XhoYeah
19:42.00XhoWell, here and there
19:42.08XhoI'd imagine they're a dying culture
19:42.49Hachiman_I guess they're gonna be
19:42.50Hachiman_Sleeping with the fishes
19:43.17XhoOrayu - we are fishes hao does dat work
19:43.21XhoWell amphibian really
19:43.42XhoWell I dunno actuall
19:43.44Xho*actually
19:43.53XhoThey can breathe on land and in water
19:43.58Hachiman_https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10415637_347451225402215_868035398664772130_n.jpg
19:44.10Xhoolol
19:46.07Hachiman_Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU Meanwhile in Alhassal
19:50.53Imperioswat
19:53.33Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxOF96FTlQ4 Meanwhile in Abyssus
19:54.24Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Maras Here's the start of his page
19:54.30Hachiman_Abyssus is now a ghetto
19:55.35Hachiman_Ahmalhrich - fish fingaz
19:55.51XhoMaras - who u callin fish            o rite me
19:56.09XhoOrayu would be my fantasy equivalent to Kicath
19:56.51Hachiman_Aww yiss
19:57.01OluapPlayerThat means they're very unpleasant then hur
19:57.07XhoYeah
19:57.10XhoUnpleasant
19:57.10XhoBig
19:57.13XhoViolent
19:57.19Hachiman_Needs Orayu Nu
19:57.21XhoNot necessarily evil
19:57.23XhoJust not nice
19:57.39XhoMaras was nice but close to Nu-level mad
19:57.47XhoNot Zanastele-level mad though
19:58.22Hachiman_If Maras was nice I could imagine him and Ahmalhrich getting on
19:58.54XhoMaras' moniker was 'The Destroyer'
19:59.01XhoYou could imagine he probably got told off a lot
19:59.30Hachiman_Ahmalhrich - maras dont use ur axe to handshake      dat kills peepl
19:59.48XhoMaras - nah rly
20:01.20Hachiman_I gotta wonder what happened to Ahmalhrich's body after he died
20:01.21Hachiman_Whether it was destroyed or reclaimed
20:01.45XhoMaras - neither        wait wat
20:03.56OluapPlayerHe got killed by void critters
20:03.58OluapPlayerSo destroyed probably
20:04.28XhoMaras' full name is 'Maras Vastilukas Quasistelik-mestra Imihnisistrai'
20:04.37XhoSo yes they also have Kicath-long names
20:05.00Hachiman_Maras - c my mom an dad h8d me
20:05.50XhoVastilukas is a patronymic name
20:06.06Hachiman_I dunno why but since you said Orayu were amphibian things, I just imagine them being born as tadpoles
20:06.07XhoImihnisistrai is a clan/tribal name
20:06.18XhoMaras - i was one bad motherfucker of a tadpole
20:07.09Hachiman_brb dinner
20:07.55XhoI've decided that Maras was a geomancer/electromancer
20:10.13*** join/#sporewiki drom (~dromlexer@c-5eeaaa2b-74736162.cust.telenor.se)
20:10.44dromI wonder what happens when Brazil looses the first match.
20:11.10XhoIf Brazil does lose
20:11.15XhoI can't imagine what would happen
20:11.27XhoBut Brazil is one of the best international teams in the world so I doubt it
20:13.02dromGermany and Spain though.
20:13.18XhoWell yeah Germany
20:13.25XhoGermany 4-0 to everything
20:14.48Xho"Some records and documents, written by Imperial humans, depict Ahmalhrich as having threatened and talked down Zran Kar himself after having freed Clotholaire from her enslavement, although it is unknown whethere there is truth within these depictions of his character."
20:14.56XhoCaligaduro - zran if this is tru u rly r a pansy fgt
20:14.58dromThey ruin the fun of the Euro cups.
20:15.29dromAnyway, this happened recently. http://imgur.com/gallery/GTC70
20:15.52Xho"This is the most interesting thing to happen in Sweden for 47 years."
20:18.10dromAnd those picture are apprently taken from an Irish embassy/ambassador building.
20:18.46dromBecause that flag to left in the 3rd and 4th pictures.
20:23.44dromhttp://i.imgur.com/wDSqXcN.png
20:26.03dromimperios: http://i.imgur.com/R07ejL0.png
20:26.22ImperiosAll of us, glorious and stronk
20:27.03ImperiosI like the little tophat my home region has :3
20:28.11dromThat finnish-talking region should be liberated.
20:29.54Technobliteratorhii
20:30.52OluapPlayerBrazil made a goal
20:31.01OluapPlayerI can tell because the whole neighbourhood suddenyl went insane
20:31.11Hachiman_olol
20:31.13Hachiman_bak
20:31.53MonetLol
20:32.27dromI guess it's because Croatia also made a goal.
20:32.47Technobliteratorbrazil scored a goal in their own country? :o
20:33.06XhoBrazil scored a goal and they own goaled
20:35.05dromSelf-goal, eh?
20:35.07ImperiosHm
20:35.26ImperiosGimme a British term for breasts
20:35.31ImperiosSomething truly British
20:35.36Hachiman_Bosom
20:35.41Hachiman_Tits
20:35.43OluapPlayercrumpets
20:35.45Hachiman_Boobies
20:35.51XhoMelons
20:35.54MonetMelons?
20:35.55XhoKnockers
20:35.55dromyiggies
20:35.57OluapPlayerHachi finish Derevar page pls
20:36.01MonetCould work melons
20:36.03Hachiman_rite
20:36.09Hachiman_Shoulder boulders
20:36.15Xho'A great big pair of knockers' is a pretty British quote
20:36.16Hachiman_Teats
20:36.25Imperiosknockers
20:36.26Imperioscan work
20:37.12dromWormy: We have our way of writing linear equations. http://i.imgur.com/6FMs2VW.png
20:39.26dromIncase of anyone is curious... We Swedes write it as "y = kx + m"
20:41.09Imperios<PROTECTED>
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20:43.16dromequations are fun
20:43.36Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Dawn/Revelations_to_Come#Arcadium:_the_Interlude Ta-dah! reed
20:44.10OluapPlayergud now code up the next one
20:46.04dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/sU8aQp3
20:47.43MonetIts an interesting section so go read.
20:51.53Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Maras Prepare for feels
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20:53.36ImperiosAwwwwww
20:54.05dromFacepunch apprently like to post stereotypes.
20:56.04Hachiman_Aww
20:56.12ImpyDroidwwwwA
20:57.22ImpyDroidHachi: What do you think of the section?
20:57.29Hachiman_Haven't read it yet
20:58.16OluapPlayerXho: Jesus those relations
20:58.21OluapPlayerI feel bad for him now
20:58.23ImpyDroidreed, it has some funny moments
20:58.26XhoI said pepare for feels
20:58.29Xho*prepare
20:58.33Xhou didnt prepare for feels
20:58.36Xho"Gavakar - Don't be. Arberkul was put down and saved, at least."
20:58.44XhoKithworto - now when you say 'put down'
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20:59.07OluapPlayerpondo
20:59.08AdmiralPandahi all
20:59.12ImpyDroidpindi
20:59.19ImpyDroidYou're early today
20:59.27OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#The_First_Attack chek
20:59.28ImpyDroidWhat happened?
21:03.37Hachiman_ImpyDroid: Nice, although that does make me wonder about where Radeon hearts are
21:03.39Hachiman_hai panda
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21:04.05AdmiralPandathat was a good section, sets up a number of developments nicely
21:04.25ImpyDroidSpeaking of sections, can you check mine?
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21:05.07ImpyDroidNot sure if you will be able to give any meningful feedback but still
21:05.22Zillafire101Hey guys.
21:05.37ImpyDroidHachiman: I'm not sure myself hur
21:05.57ImpyDroidAlso, Thessina's tits
21:06.02ImpyDroidOr lack thereof
21:06.06Hachiman_Or lack thereof
21:06.08Hachiman_Fuck ninja'd
21:06.22ImpyDroidhur
21:06.35Zillafire101Lel
21:06.41AdmiralPandaImpDroid: what section?
21:06.44Hachiman_So now that there are more people here I wanna ask for opinions
21:07.03ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Dawn/Revelations_to_Come The last one
21:07.03AdmiralPandaohgod, an opinion on the internet
21:07.05AdmiralPandawe're doomed
21:07.14ImpyDroidAs I ssid I like the intricate details
21:07.20ImpyDroidLike Khensu's statue
21:07.42Hachiman_How would you guys feel if I set up a blog that allows people to make requests for creatures to be made/remade by me for them, ala people feel dissatisfied with their own work/people who don't own Spore but wanna get involved
21:07.52AdmiralPandaI see you prefer the X: the Y naming scheme
21:07.58ImpyDroidDefinitely
21:08.03AdmiralPandago for it
21:08.22AdmiralPandaI might reopen my old solofic requests blog too while I'm at it :P
21:08.38OluapPlayerI don't see why you need to ask this
21:08.39ImpyDroidAdmiral: It's mostly for this story becsude they keep planet-hopping
21:09.28Hachiman_If it gets enough recognition and is used often I could turn it into a subpage of mine that people can edit and make requests on
21:09.57Zillafire101Hachi:That sounds interesting. Go for it.
21:10.09MonetIts a possibility.
21:10.57ImpyDroidYa
21:12.42Technobliteratorapproves of the idea
21:12.48Technobliteratormainly because I want a character or two made
21:12.49Technobliteratorlmfao
21:13.05AdmiralPandaImpyDroid: assuming I was reading the right section, it was very well written although I have no understanding of prior events so that's all I can say really
21:13.41ImpyDroid^That's what you always say hjr
21:14.06ImpyDroidI need to find a way to write a story and ask you for feedback at the same time
21:15.29Technobliteratorhm
21:15.34AdmiralPandawhy? that wont improve my feedback
21:15.34TechnobliteratorI could incorporate that into a bot
21:15.53Hachiman_Hm?
21:15.56Hachiman_A bot for what?
21:15.56AdmiralPandaand it's what I always say because it's always true
21:16.42Technobliteratorbot for 'page whoring'
21:16.56OluapPlayerwat
21:16.57Technobliteratora command like 'anounce [tagline]'
21:17.16ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: I mean
21:17.18Technobliteratorso, 'announce TND' and then the bot would give a phrase and a link to The New Dawn
21:17.21Technobliteratorfor instance
21:17.25Hachiman_Wonder what to call this blog
21:17.29Hachiman_I want something formal hur
21:17.40OluapPlayer"Hachi's official wiener expansion blog"
21:17.46Technobliteratorcall it "Sporewerks"
21:17.53ImpyDroidI should make a story and make you acquaintanxed with it from the start
21:17.53AdmiralPandaok, I vote for Oluap's
21:17.54Technobliteratorlike Kraftwerk, but Spore
21:18.15ImpyDroidacquiantanced
21:18.31AdmiralPandaI was going to make a joke with a formal title, but Oluap's is just too good
21:18.40ImpyDroidacquainted
21:18.45ImpyDroidstupid words
21:19.02Hachiman_Fuck it, I'll call it what Oluap said :D
21:19.09Hachiman_If that's allowed, that is
21:19.27Hachiman_Might be a bit misinforming but oh well
21:19.39ImpyDroidyes cos it does not expand
21:19.50Hachiman_Well I hope it expands
21:19.54OluapPlayerYes it will be extremely misinforming
21:19.59ImpyDroidits2small
21:20.16OluapPlayerhow bout u go finish derevar page
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21:21.15OluapPlayerrindum
21:21.17The_RandomnessHello everyone
21:21.42AdmiralPandahi u
21:21.57AdmiralPandaoh btw, some news that you'll probably love Hachiman_
21:22.06Hachiman_Does this involve tits
21:22.09The_Randomnesslol
21:22.10AdmiralPandaI got bored so I started making a rule supplement to turn D&D into a mecha anime
21:22.19Hachiman_Can the mechas have tits
21:22.19The_RandomnessOh gosh you were serious
21:22.25AdmiralPandayes, I was serious
21:22.49AdmiralPandaI just have to figure out how to tweak the flying rules so it's not pythagorean theorem every time you want to attack
21:22.57Hachiman_Hatchirathel the Wienerer
21:23.10Technobliteratorjeez, I wish I could speak python :'(
21:23.17Technobliteratorso many languages I want to learn
21:23.20OluapPlayerssssss, ssss sss ss
21:23.22OluapPlayerThere, python
21:23.25The_Randomnessimport language
21:23.26AdmiralPanda^
21:23.34Technobliteratorimport language
21:23.36The_Randomnesshuehuehue
21:23.36Technobliteratoru wot m8
21:23.40ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: Make a rule to turn tits into weapons
21:23.43ImpyDroidRocket tits
21:23.56Zillafire101Or Bat-nipples.
21:24.00AdmiralPandahisses at the thought of moulded breast-plates
21:24.14Hachiman_Aye breast armour's dum
21:24.46The_RandomnessIt's beyond dum
21:24.49AdmiralPandastrap 'em, wrap 'em, this sounds kinda like a rape porno but it's actually how females wear plate armour
21:24.54Technobliteratorprotecting people's chest and vulnerable parts is dum
21:24.57Technobliteratorok
21:25.09AdmiralPandaTechno: we mean moulding it to your breasts
21:25.12OluapPlayerMissed the point by a long shot
21:25.12The_RandomnessNo, seriously, boobplate will get you killed
21:25.19Technobliteratoroh
21:25.27Technobliteratorright then yes it is dumb
21:25.31Technobliteratorcarry on slandering it
21:25.32AdmiralPandaextend your arms fully, then bring them together in front of your chest
21:25.37Zillafire101Why am I strangely aroused?
21:25.43AdmiralPandaif your breasts squish at all, you can't do that in plate armour
21:25.43The_Randomness(lenny face)
21:25.45Hachiman_You're not the only one
21:25.46OluapPlayerToo much information pal
21:25.59Zillafire101Sorry.
21:26.11ImpyDroidI agree, chainmail bikinis are stupid
21:26.18Hachiman_AdmiralPanda: Does this by any chance make boobs perkier? :D
21:26.23Technobliterator._.
21:26.26The_Randomness...
21:26.28AdmiralPandanot just chain mail bikinis, moulded breast armour
21:26.45The_RandomnessHachi, get your mind out of the cleavage
21:26.48AdmiralPandachainmail bikinis are slightly more painful but slightly more useful in combat
21:26.57AdmiralPandaHachi does not simply get boobs out of his mind
21:27.07Hachiman_If I could I'd always wear a boobhat
21:27.14AdmiralPandaohgod
21:27.30OluapPlayerexcuse me
21:27.34Technobliterator._.
21:28.14ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: Anyway about boobs
21:28.18AdmiralPandahttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130922211207/fairytailfanon/images/1/1b/640x923_5049_Fnpc_2d_knight_warrior_girl_woman_fantasy_armor_picture_image_digital_art.jpg even something like this is stupid
21:28.22ImpyDroidI meant the breasts on mechas hur
21:28.31ImpyDroidHachiman_: http://www.troll.me/images/conspiracy-keanu/what-if-doggystyle-was-actually-humanstyle-and-dogs-just-copied-us.jpg
21:28.32AdmiralPandano, for all the same reason
21:28.51ImpyDroidMechas are robots
21:29.00AdmiralPandahm, do I spout a random fact relating to Impy's post or no
21:29.02ImpyDroidThey don't count
21:29.13AdmiralPandaImpy: they do, because the armoured tits stop your arms moving to the front
21:29.14Hachiman_AdmiralPanda: Yes
21:29.19Hachiman_ImpyDroid: Doubt it, dogs are only capable of having sex BY doggy-style
21:29.19AdmiralPandai.e. you can't actually fight
21:30.15XhoWow, Game of Thrones Season 3 had 257 cast members in total
21:30.32Hachiman_GoT as a whole has over 5,000 on-screen deaths
21:30.34ImpyDroidrite, didn't exactly catch your meaning the first time
21:30.35AdmiralPandahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIwFTU7zAbg
21:30.43AdmiralPandaXho: 257 of them died
21:30.47Xhohut
21:30.49Xhohur
21:30.53ImpyDroidI feel stupid now hur
21:31.52AdmiralPandaany who that video demonstrates the problem with moulded breast armour
21:32.10ImpyDroidIn my defense, my main female characters in both 'verses have fairly realistic and conservstive clothing
21:32.44ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: ...Yeah, I can see it now
21:32.54ImpyDroidThey get in the way
21:32.57XhoWell 5,000 die in the battle of Blackwater
21:33.01XhoThough you don't really see it
21:33.03AdmiralPandathe video proves all
21:33.30MonetWarhammer on boop plate = NOT PRETTY AT ALL
21:33.34Monetboob*
21:33.46ImpyDroidWarhammer has face bras
21:34.24MonetNot that warhammer
21:34.46MonetI mean a warhammer impacting a boobplate
21:34.56Zillafire101Ew.
21:34.57XhoYeah I just saw the video
21:35.00Xho5,179 deaths
21:35.01Xhowat
21:35.47ImpyDroidHm speaking of women
21:36.08Technobliteratorwhat about us?
21:36.22ImpyDroidI think I have a problem with my Fantasy girls: all of them look too attractive hur
21:36.37ImpyDroidThere needs to be an average-looking girl
21:36.44OluapPlayerdats dickwaving
21:36.47OluapPlayerPun totally intended
21:37.58Xhohttp://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/i0aa8rxdoz3u71dcrcnl.jpg
21:38.42ImpyDroidI mean both Latar and Javi are meant to be... well not uber-pretty but definitely above-average
21:39.48Technobliteratoraverage looking girl?
21:39.49Technobliteratorthat's easy
21:39.55Technobliteratorjust make an old woman oracle
21:40.17ImpyDroidTrue
21:40.24ImpyDroidHm.
21:40.41Hachiman_He said average
21:40.42ImpyDroidI can imagine Carlini looking a bit chubby
21:40.44Hachiman_Not Sea Witch
21:41.30OluapPlayerSea Witch - are you saying I'm not a pretty girl
21:42.13XhoPelagrios - well I've done worse
21:42.24ImpyDroidLike, not fat, just a bit... what's the right word...
21:42.31XhoVoluptuous
21:42.42Xho~define voluptuous
21:42.42infobotUse ~dict for definitions.
21:42.45Xhofuk u
21:42.51Xho~dict voluptuous
21:42.58XhoSounds about right
21:44.23ImpyDroidHachiman_: http://dravenstales.ch/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/the_lesbian_zombie_nazi_vampire_werewolf_shark_octopus_hooker_with_lazor.jpg This needs to be a thing
21:44.56Zillafire101That looks like my aunt.
21:45.15XhoZillafire101: You have some interesting genes then
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21:45.46Zillafire101Yeah...
21:46.09Zillafire101Stuff happens.
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22:02.20MonetRight
22:02.36MonetI am really tempted to draw British soldiers against an ITN marine for some reason
22:06.40Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aVOyq8n_460s.jpg
22:06.45MonetUnforunately there is a very high chance those soldiers will end up squished
22:07.46MonetI like the SA80 A2
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22:43.38Zmr56Hi there
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22:49.28WormyHarrison Ford was injured on set.
22:49.29GD12just waiting for flight
22:49.31Wormyhi
22:49.51WormyWhen I saw it on the headlines I thought he had died
22:52.07MonetWormy: I was watching the news a few hours ago. A girld died of ingesting ecstasy of 91% purity and this prompted her mother to call for the decriminalisation of drugs
22:52.35MonetEven a spokesman for UK's drug regulations authority called the whole thing a failure
22:58.21WormyYeah its a political thing.  Parties realise they get more votes from youth and sound more "progressive"
22:59.20WormyThough our drug regulstions are a failure imo
22:59.30MonetConsidering that this poor girl's mother was calling what she called an end ot drug prohibition, i'd call this a genuinely real issue
23:00.21WormyYeah, but people have been demanding for years.  It is now, funnily enough, that the media and politicians focus on it.
23:00.56WormyPerhaps drugs are a useful, political tool.
23:01.14MonetThis rep did mention that the regulations were a huge money skink, they are not going ot gain favourable votes if they don't act o nthis self-confesseed budget sink
23:03.19MonetIt sounds like they may have backed themselves int oa corner
23:04.28MonetThis drug rep has admitted the project as a failure, he's announced on BBC news that it's been a money skink, if the government doesn't act popular opinion is going to tank.
23:18.09AdmiralPandaour main drug problem is synthetics
23:20.39Hachiman_Your main drug problem involves robots?
23:20.58AdmiralPandano, synthetic drugs
23:21.03AdmiralPandaas in ones not made from some sort of plant
23:22.43Hachiman_Oh
23:22.53Hachiman_I was gonna say
23:23.05Hachiman_Drug-using robots would be a weird problem for Aussies to have
23:23.37AdmiralPandaproblem is, they're really cheap, easy to get a hold of, and lethal as hell
23:32.54MonetAbout siz months ago I came to the conclusion the war on drugs isn't working because Prohibition of the 1930s didn't work
23:33.05MonetThe only real winners during the 30s were the mafia
23:33.50MonetAnd right now the only peopel benefiting from the illegality of drugs li cannibis and heroin are
23:33.59MonetSouth American drug cartels

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