IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140326

00:00.44AvilladoxWell, how moral is he?
00:07.31MonetWelcome back
00:07.57quark8__Welcome back
00:08.09OluapPlayerohi
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00:08.20Zmr56Back
00:09.00quark8__Where were you?
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00:11.28Zmr56I was away for something, just a break
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00:19.49HachimanHai Panda
00:20.09AdmiralPandahai
00:20.33OluapPlayerhi
00:21.53quark8__Hi.
00:22.04quark8__Bye.
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00:24.57quark8Hi.
00:49.09quark8http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Jekad
00:49.17quark8Open to ideas.
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01:18.26AngrybirdsFrench Army Mirage Roi A http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140326011756/spore/images/4/4b/Mirage_Roi_A_2.png
01:20.30quark8Pretty good.
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03:39.54Avilladox~seen Aeo
03:39.55infobotaeo <ad114e61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.17.78.97> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 24d 9h 36m 55s ago, saying: 'be back after shower and other stuff'.
03:40.46AvilladoxHmm
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03:51.31quark8_This chat's dead.
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03:54.41Avilladox~seen Lawfulinsane
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04:08.36AvilladoxThis place is so barren
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04:20.47AngrybirdsHey
04:21.03AvilladoxHello
04:25.33AvilladoxSlow night
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04:33.10ImperiosHm
04:33.20ImperiosAny Americans here?
04:33.26AvilladoxYep
04:33.42TekDroidI'm Canadian
04:33.49AvilladoxWhy do you ask?
04:33.55ImperiosGimme an ethnic slur for Koreans used in America
04:34.11ImperiosAnd Russians
04:35.11Avilladoxdoes a google search
04:35.59AvilladoxMoose
04:36.12ImperiosI like that slur hur
04:36.24AvilladoxNot as bad as Biscuit Head
04:36.35AvilladoxOr Crotchless Pants
04:36.59AvilladoxWhy do you ask?
04:38.00ImperiosTrying to find an ethnic slur for myself
04:40.15Avilladoxlooks up ethnic slurs for americans, thanks to Imperios stimulating his curiosity
04:43.40ImperiosWe call you "Pindosy" in Russia
04:43.51Imperiossingular is "Pindos"
04:44.03ImperiosEither this or "Amerikosy/Amerikos"
04:44.20AvilladoxI know. I saw the list wikipedia has.
04:44.23ImperiosOr "Yankee"
04:44.25TekDroidI don't even know what we call Russians here.
04:45.43ImperiosYou know, for the countries that had been sworn enemies for almost half a century, we don't rewlly have that many ethnic slurs for each other
04:46.19TekDroidSurprising.
04:46.27AvilladoxThe IRC is the only place I really stop to think about ethnic slurs.
04:46.53AvilladoxI've been wondering what sort of slurs the fiction verse would have.
04:46.54ImperiosWhere do you live, Avi?
04:47.01AvilladoxCA
04:47.14ImperiosAs in?
04:47.21AvilladoxCalifornia
04:47.27ImperiosI don't get your abbreviations
04:47.36ImperiosAh I see
04:47.50AvilladoxSorry.
04:47.50ImperiosSince Califronia is multiethnic it is understandable
04:48.01ImperiosNo it's okay
04:49.27ImperiosI'd like to visit the USA one day
04:49.57AvilladoxI's like to leave the USA one day.
04:50.07AvilladoxSee the other countries
04:50.13Avilladox*Nations
04:53.13ImperiosThis too is understandable
04:54.09ImperiosWould you like to visit your ancestors' countries? What's your ancestryM
04:54.15Imperios?
04:54.24AvilladoxNorthern Europe.
04:54.47AvilladoxNorway, Swedin, Scotland, places like that.
04:55.08ImperiosI see
04:55.59AvilladoxWhat about you guys?
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05:01.15AvilladoxHey
05:01.48TybusenHello
05:02.56ImperiosHi Tybu
05:04.01TybusenHi Impe
05:06.29ImperiosImpe
05:06.36ImperiosWow such nickname
05:06.46Imperiosmuch short, many letters
05:07.13TybusenYou have cat and mouse species
05:07.18TybusenNow you need a dog species
05:07.22Tybusenor a doge species, rather
05:07.31ImperiosHur
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05:08.05ImperiosWell I have that Italian-esque city in the Fantasyverse
05:08.16ImperiosAnd its ruler bears the title of Doge
05:08.31TybusenHe needs a pet dog now
05:08.48TybusenAnd that dog can be the Doge of the Doges
05:10.37TybusenI need to go and bother Monet and get him to edit a few things on the map of Andromeda
05:11.47ImperiosTybusen: Well one of the human nations is inspired by Japan
05:11.59ImperiosSo maybe it will even be an actual shiba inu
05:15.25ImperiosTybusen: http://lurkmore.so/images/a/ad/Ttgl4.png Kol Daren
05:16.10Tybusen"Mine is the drill that will pierce the heavens, if you know what I mean" - Kol Daren
05:17.14ImperiosYou just reminded me of my time in camp
05:17.31ImperiosI was talking to Alyona and told her about my SporeWiki fic
05:18.27Imperios"I am the warrior with a blade that will pierce the heavens" "That sounds... suggestive"
05:18.31ImperiosShe actually said that
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05:18.59AvilladoxI'm back
05:21.03Avilladox~seen Aeo
05:21.04infobotaeo <ad114e61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.17.78.97> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 24d 11h 18m 4s ago, saying: 'be back after shower and other stuff'.
05:21.19AvilladoxHrm
05:21.51ImperiosThat was a long shower
05:22.18AvilladoxHeh, yeah.
05:22.29ImperiosTybusen: You have a Belorussian friend, don't you?
05:22.34Imperioshttp://lurkmore.so/images/4/42/Vafli.jpg Show him this
05:22.42ImperiosThis is an actual Belorussian waffle
05:23.02Tybusen>Belorussian waffle
05:23.08Tybusen>Has a Japanese-ish girl on it
05:23.31ImperiosThat's Haruhi
05:24.03ImperiosExcept that the waffle is called "Yulyechka"
05:24.05ImperiosYes
05:26.24ImperiosYulyechka is a form of the name "Yulya" BTW
05:27.10AvilladoxYulyechka. How do you pronounce that?
05:27.23ImperiosYoo-lech-ka
05:27.36ImperiosWith the l being palatalised
05:28.03AvilladoxOkay then. I thought maybe it was Yuly-ech-ka.
05:28.20ImperiosAs in instead of raising the tip of your tongue you raise it a bit lower
05:28.48ImperiosAs in, the part of the tongue being raised should be closer to the middle
05:28.52Imperiosof the tongue
05:29.35ImperiosBasically Yulyechka is like
05:29.40ImperiosYulya-chan
05:30.06Avilladoxthinks.
05:38.44ImperiosTybusen: http://lurkmore.so/images/5/5e/1259431310001.jpg Lorrelas should use that phrase
05:39.24Avilladoxis updating a page
05:44.22Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:East_African_Civil_War_2.png
05:46.02AvilladoxOoh. Things are happening.
05:47.25ImperiosHm
05:47.47AvilladoxHm what?
05:50.56ImperiosSince I am going to Israel
05:51.49AvilladoxYou are? Huh. good luck.
05:52.42ImperiosI ought to change my nickname to something more Israeli
05:52.50ImperiosLike
05:53.03ImperiosRemember when I was in Italy and I was "Imperio"?
05:53.28AvilladoxNo. I don't think I was on for that.
05:54.01Imperios"Jewrios" is too obvious
05:55.10AvilladoxImperisael?
05:55.23AvilladoxNo, no. definetly not
05:56.12Avilladoxdoes another search for Israel stoof
05:58.40AvilladoxJust out of curiosity, which district is it?
05:59.11AvilladoxAaand he's gone.
06:01.07AvilladoxSo, anyone have fictionverse stoof going on?
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06:10.44WaluigiWAAAAAAAAA!
06:11.28WaluigiWALUIGI'S BACK. NOW THE CHANNEL IS FUNNY AGAIN.
06:11.29AngrybirdsLiquid_Ink: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:East_African_Civil_War_2.png
06:11.43TybusenAvilla stahp
06:11.50Liquid_InkAwesome
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06:12.45AvilladoxSo, did I miss anything?
06:14.39Liquid_InkI don't know
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08:30.51AdmiralPandahi
08:31.24Liquid_InkHello
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09:01.31Hachimanhai
09:05.31Liquid_InkHello
09:07.50AdmiralPandahai buni
09:07.52AdmiralPandayou're on early
09:08.06HachimanWell I feel ill so I haven't got college today
09:09.28AdmiralPandaah fair enough
09:09.30AdmiralPandathat's a shame
09:12.56Liquid_InkD'you suppose that if I agree to agree with and defend everything Xho does in the Civverse he'll make me one of those delightful corporation logos?
09:13.47AdmiralPandamaybe, but would it be worth the price?
09:16.13Liquid_InkYes.
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10:11.16dromhi
10:11.40Liquid_InkHello
10:17.22dromSo I am having a free day from the school.
10:17.33dromAnd I am really really hyped about the GC.
10:20.41dromAnd for a reason, the infoboxes are fucked up today.
10:50.12AdmiralPandatest
10:50.16AdmiralPandaok things appear to be working
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11:02.08dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/so8bCFe
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11:34.17Hachimanhai fagit
11:34.30OluapWorkeromg hai
11:34.34OluapWorkerYou're on early today
11:35.25HachimanI felt ill so I took a day off college
11:36.17HachimanThat and there's nothing I can do there that I can't do here so I'm just doing college work on the side
11:36.45OluapWorkerTake the opportunity to finish paegs grr
11:36.49HachimanI am hur
11:37.26OluapWorkerRight so, this new user
11:37.27HachimanI'm currently working on Ryza and the drow's page
11:37.30OluapWorkerI check his page
11:37.37OluapWorker"I will join Oluap´s and Xho´s Hivemind"
11:37.40OluapWorkerI don't like him already
11:37.48Liquid_InkHurr
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11:38.26ImperiosShalom aleichem
11:38.29HachimanImperios: *explode*
11:38.51HachimanOluapPlayer: I didn't like him as soon as I saw "L33T" in his name hur
11:39.16ImperiosBen Gurion seems to be a nice place
11:39.21OluapWorkerThat too, it's like I'm at 2007 again
11:39.56Liquid_InkImpy in Israel!
11:40.06HachimanDid you know 2007 was SEVEN years ago
11:40.08ImperiosYes I am
11:40.14Imperios<PROTECTED>
11:40.14Liquid_InkHow is it?
11:40.17OluapWorkerchrist
11:40.29OluapWorkerTime goes too fast
11:40.33HachimanAye hur
11:41.25HachimanImpersael: Explain to me, what's the difference between Night Elves and Blood Elves aside from skin colour?
11:41.41Liquid_InkImpersael: Have any buses exploded?
11:44.14ImpersaelHachiman: 1) Different ear shapes
11:45.21Impersael2) NE eye glow is either white or gold, BE have green eye glow cos demon magic
11:47.44OluapWorkerHachiman: http://puu.sh/7JW5c.jpg
11:48.01Hachimandaww
11:48.19HachimanImpersael: What's their differences in culture/history?
11:48.36Impersael3) NE worship the moon and nature and are nocturnal, BE are diurnal and PRAISE THE SUN
11:48.39Hachimanrite
11:51.09Impersael4) NE are more sexist in that most of their males are druids and females are warriors and moon worsbippers
11:51.17ImpersaelBE are egalitarian
11:54.32Impersael5) BE use arcane and demonic magic, NE only use nature magic
11:54.54dromWatching small pugs, nothing can describe how happy it makes me.
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11:55.21HachimanBE sound like evil standard elves
11:55.22The_RandomnessHello
11:55.26HachimanHai Random
11:55.49dromHey
11:55.53The_RandomnessGood morning from 'murica
11:57.11dromGoddag.
11:57.37The_RandomnessUpdated my phone's OS yesterday, now recent changes makes my browser crash. QQ
11:57.49dromto 7.1?
11:57.55The_RandomnessThey ah
11:57.58The_Randomnesswat
11:58.00The_RandomnessYeah
11:58.05dromMine is 7
11:58.08The_RandomnessStupid autocorrect
11:58.18dromHue
11:58.33dromiPhone autocorrect is the masterrace.
11:58.45The_RandomnessYes
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12:00.49The_RandomnessiOS autocorrect is best autocorrect
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12:02.22ImpershaelHachiman: BEs are not evil
12:03.09dromThe_Randomness: 'murican pugs. http://i.imgur.com/r3eRCeW.gif
12:03.22HachimanImpershael: butbut demons
12:03.31ImpershaelIt's just that their home was devastated so they are bitter and cold
12:03.49ImpershaelThey used demonic magic, true, but not anymore
12:04.22dromIs dis gud for now? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Raavii
12:04.38OluapWorkerTheir home got devastated so Kel'Thuzad could get himself a snazzy new body
12:04.45ImpershaelIt's not that they all dabbled in dark arts, it's just that they drained energy out of demons because the undead destroyed their original magic source
12:04.50ImpershaelYes him
12:04.50dromAnd the infoboxes are fucked up for me today.
12:05.21ImpershaelNow back to RL
12:06.28The_RandomnessI think I'm actually going to get some work done on my fiction this weekend.
12:07.17Hachimandrom: I like it, you described her character well and I like how she and other Monkeys are individualistic rather than hat-wearing, what with her being a feminine hermaphrodite and her stance on aliens
12:07.38HachimanAlso her armour design is pretty neat
12:08.33ImpershaelDamn
12:08.48ImpershaelWhy do cute Israeli girls have to cheat you out of your money?
12:08.59Hachimanhur
12:09.41ImpershaelI wanted to buy a hamburger, french fries, and a bottle of juice
12:09.49ImpershaelShe sold me two of each somehow
12:09.52OluapWorkerhttp://i.imgur.com/1QOfgFX.gif
12:10.21dromHachiman, thanks.
12:10.45Hachimandrom: Also, I hope you don't mind me using "Monkeys" to refer to the Aemonkians hur
12:11.02Impershaelstupid cute black Israeli girl
12:11.02OluapWorkerhttps://i.imgur.com/YOWoTK4.jpg
12:11.07The_RandomnessJust read that page of yours drom, nice work.
12:11.10Liquid_InkOMG that sounds so cute
12:11.24HachimanLiquid's ethnic boner is rising again
12:11.34dromHachiman, you are lucky that there's no Aemonkian here yet.
12:11.35HachimanOluapWorker: story of mah life
12:11.36dromHur
12:11.39Hachimanhur
12:12.02dromThanks, The_Randomness
12:12.03OluapWorkerexcept no
12:12.03ImpershaelI guess she's Beta Israel or something
12:12.59ImpershaelSlender, very dark-skinned but with somewhat European-ish facial features, and with a long African neck
12:13.44Liquid_InkOh my
12:14.14Hachimanhttp://i.space.com/images/i/000/037/924/i02/biomimicry-spacesuit-spacecenter.jpg?1395776927 NASA's Z-2 spacesuit
12:14.30HachimanLooks a little Giger-esque to me
12:14.30dromHachiman: When I first read your word "Monkeys". I thought of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58OdsRluhQ
12:14.44The_RandomnessI must be going, bye guys
12:15.09OluapWorkerhttps://24.media.tumblr.com/57818eebdd24169f10947fdf5f02f135/tumblr_n30xitA2SV1qdlh1io1_400.gif ded
12:15.56dromOluapWorker: That's what I call for karma
12:16.34dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/kqEYUiZ
12:16.34ImpershaelHachi: Anyway, back to the subject of elves
12:17.00ImpershaelBEs live in Middle Eastern-ish cities, NEs live in trees and their capital is basically a huge baobab
12:17.30ImpershaelAnd their architecture is more Japanese/Korean
12:18.31HachimanOoh I see
12:20.10dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/lQof7
12:21.11ImpershaelLast but not their least, NE and BE have different physiques
12:21.33ImpershaelNE are bufd, their women look Amazonian and their males look like bodybuilders
12:21.37Impershael*buff
12:21.58ImpershaelWhile BE are all bishonen/bishoujo
12:23.00HachimanHuh, I like the diversity
12:23.06HachimanAre they even related?
12:23.20ImpershaelVery distantly
12:23.21AdmiralPanda_wait is this WoW elves?
12:23.27ImpershaelYa
12:23.53AdmiralPanda_aren't the Blood Elves basically a splinter faction that got F'ed over by demon magic in the wake of the fancy magic pool getting kersploded or something?
12:23.55OluapWorkerif I remember correctly High Elves are Night Elves who crossed the sea a gorillon years ago
12:24.17Hachiman"gorillian"
12:24.20Hachimanexpand timeframe
12:24.25OluapWorkerhur
12:24.49OluapWorkerAnd Blood Elves are just emo High Elves
12:24.55ImpershaelBasically a gorrilion years ago night elf nobles screwed up with magic and summoned a helluva demons that tore Azeroth apart
12:25.16AdmiralPanda_and this is why Elves suck :P
12:25.42OluapWorkernight elf ladies are the best looking ladies in warcraft tho
12:26.13ImpershaelAfter demons were driven back, those nobles who did not side with them (those became satyrs - think Dota Riki - and nagas) were exiled by the elf proletariat and became high elves
12:26.20ImpershaelAnd then they became blood elves
12:26.31AdmiralPanda_and that's why Jim Raynor has a holo-night-elf in his ship's cantina
12:26.37ImpershaelOluapWorker: Don't forget the uncorrupted draenei
12:26.47HachimanAdmiralPanda: Wait he does?
12:26.55ImpershaelYa
12:27.10OluapWorkerDraenei have hooves
12:27.12OluapWorkerSo nu
12:27.21HachimanTau have hooves
12:27.22HachimanTau girls are kawaii
12:27.25ImpershaelWhen did that ever stop me
12:27.36OluapWorkerI'm not you hur
12:27.37HachimanHooves only expand Imperios' dong further
12:27.41ImpershaelI liked playing as a troll girl however
12:28.05ImpershaelTroll girls are cuuuute
12:28.11HachimanWait as in the troll race or pretending to be a girl to fool guys
12:28.15OluapWorkerWaifu of Warcraft
12:28.20Impershaeltroll race
12:28.25Hachimanrite
12:28.37Liquid_Inkhttp://satwcomic.com/art/no-surprise.jpg
12:28.39ImpershaelTrolls are one of my favourite races in Warcraft
12:28.56ImpershaelThey're goddamn blue Jamaican Aztecs
12:29.10ImpershaelAnd they cast da voodoo
12:29.18dromLiquid_Ink: https://i.imgur.com/2q5NZPl.jpg
12:29.28HachimanLiquid_Ink: awww that's adorable
12:30.07ImpershaelLiquid_Ink: Scandinavians are like that hur
12:30.47ImpershaelTrolls also speak like Javik
12:31.06Liquid_Inkhttp://satwcomic.com/art/confusion.jpg
12:32.41ImpershaelHachimam and OluapPlayer: Did you recieve my message about hexus voluptas yesterday?
12:32.52HachimanI think I might have done
12:32.53OluapWorkerI didn't
12:32.53ImpershaelHachiman
12:33.26Impershael"Valdemar copies Hexus Voluptas from Clotho -> tries to cast it on Javina"
12:33.37OluapWorkerhur
12:33.48OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/c/src/1395797772037.png I should put this on my workplace
12:34.40Hachimancept its a teeny tiny teen gurl
12:35.01OluapWorkerIf you're curious hexus Voluptas' effect is making your target very very horny
12:35.55dromAnyone remember that Crimean Police General?
12:36.13HachimanYou mean the really kawaii woman?
12:36.29dromAye: https://imgur.com/gallery/u5LB3o8
12:37.11HachimanShe is pretty cute
12:37.37ImpershaelJavina still dumps Valdemar hur
12:37.55HachimanJavina dumps Valdemar -> Attempts Ryza
12:38.44OluapWorkerNatalia is Putin's waifu
12:39.03dromAye
12:39.26ImpershaelJavina - LET'S SEE WHAT I CAN DO WITH THESE EYESOCKETS
12:40.02HachimanWhich reminds me
12:40.23dromOluapWorker: It's pretty obvious, but: https://i.imgur.com/0MI5ior.jpg
12:40.24HachimanRyza's eyes were scratched/ripped out by a Vurdalak
12:40.42HachimanWhich have been described as being able to fight equally with True Drakes
12:40.53OluapWorkerNot all
12:41.01HachimanWell not all of them no
12:41.03HachimanBut nonetheless
12:41.10HachimanI find Vurdalaks intimidating as fuk hur
12:41.19OluapWorkerGood, they're supposed to
12:41.47HachimanMeanwhile
12:41.52HachimanSuccubi are hawt as fuk
12:42.21OluapWorkerA Vurdalak could fight and potentially kill a Sand or Poison Drake
12:42.32OluapWorkerBut they wouldn't stand a chance against a Fire one
12:42.39HachimanMakes me wonder how Ryza survived really
12:42.47OluapWorkerAnd a Light one would curb-stomp him hard enough for Dalverat himself to feel it
12:42.52Hachimangeezush
12:43.16OluapWorkerRyza's crew should have been there to help her
12:43.27HachimanOh yeah they probably were
12:44.15Hachimanhttps://i.imgur.com/EBdt6fa.png Found more Crimean Police General artwork, but NSFW
12:44.54OluapWorkerHalf-rat Vurdalak
12:44.56OluapWorkerThat'd be ugly
12:44.58HachimanGeezush
12:45.11HachimanAlso I dunno why but Natalia reminds me of Annie from SnK for some reason
12:45.28OluapWorkerI've seen a picture of Annie dressed as Natalia
12:45.57dromOluapWorker: Pics or it didn't happen.
12:46.05OluapWorkerIs it just me or are all the infoboxes really stretched today?
12:46.19dromNope, it's on my end too.
12:46.20HachimanNo they're stretched
12:46.39OluapWorkerWikia's fault then
12:46.45Hachimandrom: http://i.imgur.com/UOMg9he.jpg Pic
12:46.59dromhngh
12:47.10OluapWorkerYeah that was it
12:48.20Hachimanhttps://i.imgur.com/s8jfTnT.png
12:48.22OluapWorkerAlso since the drow and the purebloods are long-time enemies, I imagine drow ships would have stuff like garlic and silver weapons to deal with potential vampire attacks
12:48.52HachimanI imagine drow weapons would incorporate silver
12:48.56HachimanTo fight vampires
12:49.14OluapWorkerSo while Vurdalaks are fuktough, there are many ways to weaken them
12:49.54Hachimanohgod I should make it that drow are often found with garlic breath due to munching garlic to keep vampires away
12:49.54dromIf you want hot girls, make sure that you don't deliver any music similiar to Skyrim's theme.
12:50.13OluapWorkerhoh
12:50.24OluapWorkerThat would actually be an excellent way to repel Succubi
12:50.37HachimanRyza - kiss me    Succubi - noh
12:50.50OluapWorkerSuccubi - brush ur teeth first holy shit i'm dyin
12:51.13HachimanClothovera intentionally gives Hachi lots and lots of garlic for his travels hur
12:51.29OluapWorkerClothovera - no succubus can get you. you are MINE and MINE alone
12:51.43HachimanHachi - butbut :c
12:51.52dromDon't garlics grow flowers?
12:52.30HachimanI've never heard of garlic growing flowers
12:52.52dromI meant planted garlics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garlic
12:53.02HachimanOh
12:53.05HachimanYeah I think so
12:53.31OluapWorkerAdult Clotho would be a little yandere for Hachi since he's always traveling
12:53.42dromAnd china produces 14 million tonnes of garlic each year.
12:53.47dromHolu shite.
12:54.05OluapWorkerTharja's quotes fit it. "It’s an accessory. Why don’t you put it on? Let everyone know you BELONG to me."
12:54.31Hachimangeezush
13:00.18OluapWorkerSince you won't rp I'm gonna plan that Blades-like organization. I need ideas for a name but all I thought of so far sounds really cheesy
13:02.29HachimanSuch as?
13:03.35OluapWorkerFirst I thought of "Company of Heroes" but then I remembered that's a game's name. I also thought of "Heroes of Light" but it's cheesy
13:03.52HachimanHmm
13:03.56OluapWorkerI nearly went for Heroes of Sunlight but the team isn't about the sun and the only one there who'll praise the sun is Norrigan hur
13:03.56HachimanDragonscale Vanguard
13:04.09HachimanIn reference to Earath's dragon-scale armour and their duty
13:04.20OluapWorkerHmm
13:04.22OluapWorkerThat's an idea
13:04.35OluapWorkerI should mention Vixaatus will be the leader, not Earath
13:04.40Hachimanrite
13:05.44AdmiralPanda_hm I need to hurry up and get involved in a fantasy verse story so I can get to learn what these characters are on about
13:05.53HachimanHmm
13:05.54HachimanDragonscale Wardens
13:06.12OluapWorkerBasically this is an alliance of good guys
13:06.41OluapWorkerYeah Wardens sounds cooler than Vanguard
13:06.46AdmiralPanda_I mean basically every fantasy verse character
13:06.53AdmiralPanda_I know their names and basic character design but not much else
13:07.00OluapWorkerRead their pages hur
13:07.12dromIsn't the user infoboxes based on dark-tables?
13:07.29HachimanDark-tables?
13:07.43OluapWorkerrite I'll go for Dragonscale Wardens unless you have a better idea
13:07.57HachimanWell I think we should stick with "Wardens"
13:08.12HachimanDragonscale might sound better as something else though
13:08.18HachimanSomething more encompassing maybe
13:08.22dromHachiman: A type of "tabber" but it uses different constructure and has darker background.
13:09.07OluapWorkerWhy do I keep thinking of "Sun"
13:09.07AdmiralPanda_OluapPlayer: I did read their pages, pages don't tell you as much as being in a story with them
13:09.11OluapWorkerstupid sexy solaire
13:09.12dromYes, it's a table class.
13:09.25drom"<table class="infobox {{{bodyclass|}}} darktable"
13:09.51HachimanDawn Wardens
13:10.29OluapWorkerI like that
13:10.56OluapWorkerMy idea is that this organization already existed in the past back in the Caligaduro war but they got wiped out
13:10.58dromDamn Wardens.
13:11.10OluapWorkerSo in the next Shiarchon war, Vixaatus decides to recreate it
13:11.22HachimanOoh interesting idea
13:11.30HachimanKinda like PCA hur
13:11.36HachimanBut more character-orientated
13:11.58OluapWorkerYeah pretty much
13:12.05OluapWorkerAre you gonna have any char other than Hachi in it?
13:12.17HachimanI might do, though Kanna isn't gonna join
13:12.38OluapWorkerEarath - get in heer u fuk
13:13.15AdmiralPanda_I wonder if I should make a somewhat serious character
13:13.17dromThis son of a bitch
13:13.24dromWell.
13:13.25dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox/new?action=history
13:13.56OluapWorkerI got 7 members already
13:14.01OluapWorker9 counting Nyakik and Alhazred
13:14.22dromOkay. Guys, I found the culprit
13:14.29dromOf the streched infoboxes.
13:15.03OluapWorkerDid that new guy mess them up?
13:15.28dromYep. He changed the width from 250 to 568
13:15.43dromLemme fix day
13:15.44dromdat*
13:15.46HachimanHe was trying to allow infoboxes to have full pictures I think
13:15.47AdmiralPanda_which new guy is this?
13:16.00OluapWorkerhe dun goofd
13:16.24HachimanOluapWorker: Vixaatus is a serious member isn't he hur
13:16.39OluapWorkerdat a trick question or wat
13:16.47dromPublishing fix.
13:16.56OluapWorkerHe's Parthurnaax, of course he's serious
13:17.34dromAdmiralPanda_: Dis guy
13:17.34dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Matthew_Cenance
13:17.46AdmiralPanda_ah that guy
13:17.53AdmiralPanda_I had a feeling he was gonna screw something up sooner or later
13:18.07dromSame
13:18.18HachimanDunno bout you but he doesn't look like he did it out of bad will
13:18.36OluapWorkerHe probably didn't
13:19.07OluapWorkerRight so far I got Vixaatus, Earath, the Sea Witch, Clotho, Hachi, Norrigan and Vectrom
13:19.27Hachimanpoot dalverat
13:19.34OluapWorkerGonna have to wait for Imp and Xho to get back online so I can see if they want to be in it
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13:19.40LawfulInsaneHello.
13:19.41dromI'm sure he didn't but he wasn't aware of the consequences.
13:19.52LawfulInsane~seen Sporeraptor
13:19.53infobotsporeraptor <54392097@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.57.32.151> was last seen on IRC in channel #cyrannus, 15h 56m 56s ago, saying: 'hi'.
13:19.56LawfulInsane~seen Cyrannian
13:19.56infobotcyrannian <5f2c5c07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.44.92.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 15h 45m 2s ago, saying: 'Bye!'.
13:19.56OluapWorkerDalverat would be too busy leading his Clan to take part of this
13:20.26dromAnd it should take some time before the infoboxes goes back to 250px in width.
13:20.41HachimanHachi and Clotho are always fucking, Norrigan's busy praising, and Sea Witch is busy being ded but they can still do shit hur
13:20.55LawfulInsaneWhat happened to infoboxes anyway
13:21.10OluapWorkerWell you need to at least have time to take part of reunions
13:21.40HachimanMaybe instead of being an official member Dalverat affiliates with them?
13:21.53OluapWorkerPerhaps
13:22.18HachimanI like Dalverat, pretty unique for a vampire char
13:22.32HachimanThe Nightshade in general I like hur
13:22.40OluapWorkeryey
13:23.51AdmiralPanda_yeah they're cool, especially the succubi
13:24.07HachimanAye especially the succubi hur
13:24.07OluapWorkerYurtnezz might join later but as of the re-founding he wouldn't be aware of their existance
13:25.26AdmiralPanda_gotta say I'm happy Hachi found someone to tie the knot with, I thought I wouldn't like him losing the eternal bachelor part but I think it suits him
13:26.49OluapWorkerI make the impossible possible by giving Hachi a girlfriend
13:26.52OluapWorker*kamina shades*
13:27.17Hachimanhur
13:27.54AdmiralPanda_heh
13:28.09AdmiralPanda_hm, I really need to give Sor some character development and do something with her during the Shattering
13:28.18OluapWorkerHachiman: Remember those elves you made from across the sea? How were they called again?
13:28.24HachimanApeksaka
13:28.30HachimanThe ones you didn't like hur
13:28.48AdmiralPanda_created her to be a different aspect of the Fordanta, she ended up a bad excuse to get Hachi laid. Really not my best move.
13:28.48OluapWorkerAre those still canon?
13:29.08HachimanAs of the moment, it's up to debate
13:29.16HachimanI'm not gonna use them anytime soon though
13:29.17OluapWorkerblegh
13:29.27HachimanWhy'd you ask?
13:29.33OluapWorkerI was gonna add them to the Deiwos page if they were canon
13:29.40HachimanNah don't add them
13:29.47OluapWorkerI'm making galleries of Deiwos races like we did for the Kelodhros
13:29.53HachimanIt's probable they're non-canon
13:30.09HachimanOluap working towards humies/elfies
13:30.11Hachimanwat is dis
13:30.13dromThe infoboxes are now normal!
13:30.18OluapWorkerOr at least try to because there's a bunch of Deiwos races with no pictures
13:30.24Hachimandrom: The tickets are now diamonds!
13:30.24OluapWorkerRustles my jimmies dat
13:30.28LawfulInsane"A bad excuse to get Hachi laid"?
13:30.49dromSo, I also told the newbie to join our IRC channel.
13:30.58dromSo we can easliy help him.
13:31.17LawfulInsane?
13:31.19OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Deiwos this is what I got so far
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13:31.41OluapWorkerI imagine we should make a page like this for the beastraces too considering there's probably more beastraces than Deiwos and Kelodhros combined
13:31.42LawfulInsanehello.
13:31.42OluapWorkerhi
13:31.42AdmiralPanda_LawfulInsane: Don't bother asking
13:31.52LawfulInsane...
13:32.00AdmiralPanda_actually contemplating ditching that character entirely, or basically rebuilding her from scratch
13:32.48MonetHi
13:33.32HachimanAdmiralPanda_: rebuuuild
13:33.37Hachimanhai Monet
13:33.42dromHai money
13:33.43OluapWorkerHachi's a scalyu
13:33.44drommonet*
13:33.45OluapWorkerscaly even
13:33.55LawfulInsanehur @drom
13:34.06AdmiralPanda_eh I dunno, it's a bit sad when the first fiction involving a character is a non-canon excuse of a fic to get Hachi laid
13:34.39HachimanThen recycle her character into something else
13:34.40HachimanMake her the Fordan Empire's most iconic current diplomat or representative or something along those lines
13:34.57HachimanAs well as cutest, like Natalia hur]
13:35.15OluapWorkerI keep hearing Natalia is actually an evil bitch
13:35.29OluapWorkerBut considering how little I care for the whole Crimea thing, I don't know much more
13:35.36HachimanFits the Annie bill perfectly hur
13:36.14HachimanShe's just tsundere
13:36.31OluapWorkerShe reacted to her "internet fame" with confusion and disgust
13:36.36OluapWorkeras far as I'm aware
13:36.43dromOluapWorker: Every cute girls are evil bitches.
13:36.55LawfulInsaneSandly true.
13:36.58LawfulInsane*Sadly
13:38.01Monethttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100721190032/mongrels/images/3/31/Destiny.jpg hgere's evidence
13:38.33HachimanMonet thinks a dog is cute
13:38.35OluapWorkerHachiman: Also Polaris aka the network Ross is a member of and Game Grumps is partnered with now belongs to Disney
13:38.55HachimanOluapWorker: Geezush
13:39.01OluapWorkerRoss tweeted that he's a Disney princess now
13:39.10MonetHachiman: I wouldn't mind if Destiny wasn't a blackhearted bitch.
13:39.26HachimanWait I was gonna make a beastiality joke about Monet but then I realized that people usually do find dogs cute hur
13:40.15OluapWorkerI hope Disney doesn't force them to take down their Disney-themed videos
13:40.20HachimanAye same
13:40.22OluapWorkerLike Mickey Mousecapade
13:40.30Hachiman"MINNIE!!"
13:40.37OluapWorkerdis game's a bunch of poopy-ass dicks
13:41.00OluapWorkerStill one of my favorite episodes of all time
13:41.22HachimanAye, though I also enjoy the Dennis the Menace episode a lot hur
13:41.25MonetHAchi: I posted that picture to affirm that cute girls are often evil bitches.
13:42.32LawfulInsaneOkay...and what else?
13:43.03OluapWorkerMonet: You think you can give mine and Hachi's story a check now?
13:43.12Hachimanyeh tis adorable story
13:43.22MonetI'll have a look.
13:43.55OluapWorkerI actually spent the entire weekend listening to Game Grumps compilations
13:44.10Hachimanohgod
13:44.33OluapWorkerThere were like five separate videos, each 30 minutes long about funny Arin-Danny moments
13:44.55Hachimandaww that's kinda sweet
13:45.10HachimanAlso I like how you refer to Neva as Dwarves hur
13:45.15MonetI learned yesterday that my brother is an Arin fan.
13:45.36MonetHe has a lot of songs on his iPod composed by him
13:45.42OluapWorkerI didn't
13:45.51OluapWorkerGhelae made that page
13:46.18OluapWorkerI think we need a new subsection for Orcs
13:46.27OluapWorkerWe got at least 3 orc races
13:46.36HachimanI dunno, not all of those orcs are deiwos though
13:46.56OluapWorkerThey are as far as I know
13:48.30MonetUmm...sorry but can I haz link?
13:48.41OluapWorkerheugh
13:48.42OluapWorkerOne sec
13:49.11OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ACherish_the_Twilight there
13:49.24OluapWorkeryeah I just checked, all orc races we got are classified as deiwos
13:49.40Hachimanrite
13:50.20OluapWorkerSince we got orcs classified alongside elves and humans in TES, I don't see why orcs can't be Deiwos
13:50.35OluapWorkerNeeds that Ghelae person here nao
13:51.16LawfulInsane~seen Ghelae
13:51.19infobotghelae <6daf8903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.175.137.3> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 15h 20m 42s ago, saying: 'I'm going to go now. Bye!'.
13:51.26MonetHumans are "men" elves are "mer", can't remember of Orcs are Mer or something else.
13:52.15OluapWorkerThey are mer
13:52.22HachimanYeah, mer
13:53.35MonetI think Mer is something like "abhuman"
13:53.43OluapWorkerracist as fuk
13:53.59MonetTHen again it's not liek Witcher where you have "humans" and second-class citizen "non-humans"
13:54.09MonetNow THAT's a racist setting
13:55.30AdmiralPanda_Monet: Orcs are Orsimer
13:55.40MonetThere we go.
13:55.45OluapWorkerwho are mer
13:56.33MonetI'm guessing calling an Orc "mer" is like calling a grey wolf a dog.
13:56.43HachimanWell
13:56.58HachimanNot really considering that Dunmer and Altmer are also more easily known as simply "mer"
13:57.12HachimanIt's an encompassing term
13:57.23MonetSo more calling a wolf a canid?
13:57.27HachimanYeah
13:57.28OluapWorkerYeah
13:57.48OluapWorkerOrsimer is just another name for them, it's like how High Elves are Altmer
13:58.33HachimanIt's just the specifics, like how Redguard and Nords are just ethnic groups of Man
13:58.43HachimanYou can still call them all human
13:59.08MonetIf I recall in the WItcher (I am reading your stroy just for knows), Dwarves, Elves and Gnomes are all "non-humans". And basically treated like property.
13:59.24MonetOr second-class citizens
14:01.21LawfulInsaneI'm gonna lurk chat.
14:02.45MonetClotho and Hachi create one big slightly-wierd family
14:02.53LawfulInsanelul
14:03.31HachimanHachi and Clotho themselves are pretty weird hur
14:04.18OluapWorkeraye
14:04.30MonetForgive the cynicism but I have a sad feeling that Circe might bullied.
14:04.39Monetmight be*
14:04.57OluapWorkerIt's possible since she's a triple hybrid
14:05.13OluapWorkerBut you usually don't want to bully someone protected by a giant panther
14:05.35MonetShe takes it to class?
14:06.03HachimanMore like Nyakik goes with her even if she doesn't want her to hur
14:06.09OluapWorkerYes
14:06.36HachimanAlso I imagine it'd be unwise to pick on the daughter of the director of one of the Sovereign's most successful colleges and one of the most powerful witches in Koldenwelt
14:07.06Monet...I suppose peopel could always talk a lot of shit behind her back.
14:07.12HachimanAs well as a travelling warrior dad who can slice a Fire Drake into salami
14:07.14MonetWait why am I thinking this?
14:07.24OluapWorkerSo you got a Robin Hood-esque husband, a witch wife, a daughter with bunny ears, a giant panther, a talking book and four hyperactive kittens
14:07.25Hachimanur childhood dun fukd
14:07.50LawfulInsaneDamn.
14:07.50MonetHachiman: Yeah I got a lot of shit in school.
14:08.22MonetMostly because of my Asperger's I wasn't like everyone else.
14:08.34HachimanOluapPlayer: Is it possible that Circe may also grow to be a powerful witch herself? I mean, she's the daughter of Koldenwelt's most powerful witch AND a creature that has a natural affinity for the Source
14:09.14HachimanThat creature being Lagosi hur
14:09.27OluapWorkerI don't quite see her becoming a witch
14:09.31OluapWorkerA sorcerer though, yes
14:09.49MonetWait what's the difference in Koldenwelt?
14:10.09HachimanThe same difference between witches and swordmages
14:10.10OluapWorkerAs far as I'm concerned, witch = uses evil magic
14:10.14MonetAre we using the D&D model where wizards memorise spells while sorcerors can cast innately?
14:10.23Hachimanrite
14:10.40HachimanRight okay that makes sense
14:10.49AdmiralPanda_OluapWorker: No such thing as evil magic, just some people use it for evil ends
14:11.03OluapWorkerdunt tell me wat ma majik is woman
14:11.18AdmiralPanda_looks for Techno
14:11.18OluapWorkerI imagine Clotho wouldn't want Circe to be a witch because of what she went through to get to her current position
14:11.22AdmiralPanda_wut u on about
14:11.24MonetIts just I know a wiccan that's all, so I don't see "witch" as an innately evil title.
14:11.50HachimanThis is more stereotypical witch rather than Wiccan witch
14:12.10MonetOKay.
14:12.49HachimanI can imagine Circe also inherits her dad's agility and physical prowess
14:13.02HachimanShe'd make a good swordmage hur
14:14.27MonetOkay reading the next section...Earath now has wings?
14:14.34OluapWorkerYes
14:14.45MonetDraonoggr - Dafuk u sand drakes doing?
14:14.46HachimanDon't worry, it gets explained
14:15.12HachimanDraonoggr questions Earath's appearance -> Forgets about Dragonsworn hur
14:15.59OluapWorkerThis isn't a case of gaining a dragon-like appearance though. Earath literally was turned into a small Sand Drake with arms
14:19.04MonetI think my surprise comes more from a question of "How and why"
14:19.18MonetDragonsworn are born though alchemy.
14:19.37MonetSorr,y transformed through alchemy
14:19.45OluapWorkerEarath was transformed by Vixaatus
14:19.49HachimanProbably through a process not unlike Descension/Ascension I imagine
14:20.22OluapWorkerhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140324163916/spore/images/9/90/Future_Earath.png tis him
14:20.25HachimanWhich thankfully I don't think we have in the Fantasyverse
14:20.48OluapWorkerWe don't need that when we got magic
14:20.53HachimanAye hur
14:23.13OluapWorkerThis section was centered on Hachi, next one will be centered on Clotho
14:23.22OluapWorkerI nearly wrote "sextion" there
14:24.09Hachimanolol
14:25.40MonetCLotho likes to stand in arousing clothing on street corners.
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14:25.57OluapWorkerdat
14:27.03MonetOKay that was a fun story.
14:27.11HachimanStory of how Clotho and Hachi met hur
14:27.33MonetIs Kimorgos getting sick of dying all the time?
14:27.58OluapWorkerMore like he can't keep up with all the heroes going stronger
14:28.27OluapWorkerHachi beat him in like, 3 attacks or so
14:28.54HachimanKinda makes me sad seeing a villain that is destined to keep returning or is immortal keep getting beat like that
14:30.09OluapWorkerThat's exactly how Kolossus feels
14:30.34HachimanKolossus should do a Viral hur
14:30.49OluapWorkerKinda impossible when your boss is Angazhar
14:35.49quark8Why?
14:40.47MonetSo there's a new feature being added to Dust 514.
14:40.55MonetCloaking.
14:43.52MonetJoy of joys not it's going ot be even harder ot shoot mens.
14:43.55Monetnow*
14:48.47OluapWorkerHachiman: "Chosen Undead > Slayer of Demons > DaS II guy"        "I don't care about your sexual tastes."
14:53.03OluapWorkershiet
14:53.45AdmiralPanda_double shit
14:55.33MonetSo I got an email that SimCity 5 finally became playable offline about 8 days ago. THis is the first blog I've seen on SImCity 5's site where the majority response isn't of overwhelmingl moaning.
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14:56.03AdmiralPanda_oh phew
14:56.08MonetHi
14:56.11Hachimanhai again
14:56.18OluapWorkerHachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/src/1395841907554.jpg
14:56.22AdmiralPanda_thought we lost you for a moment there
14:56.30MonetYeah it only too took EAxis over six months to include a feature that SHOULD have been in there from day one.
14:56.56HachimanOluapPlayer: Looks like the guy from Fullmetal Alchemist
14:57.56Hachimanhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090425013032/fma/images/b/b1/AlexLouisArmstrong!LookAtThoseGodlyMuscles!.jpg This guy specifically
14:57.57OluapWorkerThat's the joke
14:58.02Hachimano rite
14:59.37quark8Bye.
14:59.52OluapWorkerSince Panda is gone I can finally talk about DSII
15:00.08OluapWorkerHachiman: There are rewards for finishing the game without dying and finishing the game without resting on any bonfires
15:00.36HachimanOh sweet
15:00.51OluapWorkerRings that make either your left hand or right hand weapons invisible
15:00.51quark8Why couldn't you tal about it when Panda was here.
15:01.01MonetThe gaming industry gained a massive boost in the early days thanks to bedroom game designers. What exactly happened?
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15:06.26JepardiHi
15:08.05dromhi
15:09.08Hachimanhttp://www.damnlol.com/i/64726fca26923aa622c69ea8035eef12.png
15:09.09dromOluapWorker.
15:09.14dromWe got a troll on loose.
15:09.28dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
15:10.11OluapWorkerdealt with
15:10.14dromGood
15:11.39dromThe troll is (just some fatty) from America, according to his/her adress.
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15:12.34dromhai
15:12.34ImpersaelHelloh
15:12.41MonetHi
15:12.42ImpersaelOr, rather, shalom hur
15:12.48HachimanKebab
15:12.53dromdigma digma digma
15:13.24MonetImperios: Enjoying Israel?
15:13.36ImpersaelYeah, sort of
15:14.40MonetHot?
15:15.22dromImpersael: I heard that they have jewish physics. Found anything that proves it's true?
15:15.35ImpersaelWell
15:15.46ImpersaelYou mean the Relativity Theory?
15:15.59dromI guess so.
15:16.36MonetMost of the Manhattan project's big brains were Jewish.
15:16.40dromBy the way, this new user named Matthew fixed the png section of the creatures. What he said.
15:17.46ImpersaelMonet: There was that cute black girl in the fast food restaurant that cheated me out of money; otherwise, everything is fine
15:17.51ImpersaelOr she must have misunderstood me
15:18.03ImpersaelOr I could have misunderstood her
15:18.10MonetCheated you?
15:18.27ImpersaelWell not really
15:18.50ImpersaelShe somehow sold me two lunches as opposed to one; I guess this was just misunderstanding on our part
15:20.10ImpersaelShe was really cute though
15:34.27dromSo I noticed that |main image(#) size is placed as the 6th array line in the infobox creature.
15:34.51dromAnd the arraymap is limited from 1 to 5.
15:35.57dromBut hah, no. I have no knowledge. The arraymap is to define how much "main image" you can have.
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15:40.05GhelaeHello.
15:41.16HachimanHai Ghel
15:41.27dromgotta test it on my sandbox
15:41.37Impersaelhi
15:41.40Impersaelhm
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15:56.21JepardiHi
15:59.44GhelaeHello.
16:00.56dromhey
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16:06.13ImpersaelHur
16:07.07OluapPlayerImpersael: You want any of your Fantasyverse characters to join the alliance of heroes I'm planning to make?
16:07.23ImpersaelWhat kind of alliance is this?
16:07.35OluapPlayerDid you play Skyrim?
16:07.43ImpersaelA teeny tiny bit
16:07.52OluapPlayerThink the Blades
16:07.56OluapPlayerExcept they're not douchebags
16:08.53OluapPlayerBasic idea is a bunch of heroic characters who work together to fight large-scale threats
16:09.25ImpersaelLemme think
16:10.37OluapPlayerThink of it as a character-based PCA
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16:11.35Impersael2OP: Lekren would join; not sure if Javi or Latar would be allowed
16:12.14OluapPlayerLatar could join
16:12.16OluapPlayerJavina, no
16:12.17dromSo, I have checked in the code of the infobox/new. The image section is a huge mess for me.
16:12.18OluapPlayerToo nazi hur
16:12.21Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aXbRvOD_460s.jpg
16:12.38Impersael2In theory Javi could be the token evil teammate of the team
16:13.03OluapPlayerShe wouldn't be invited to be a member if she remains antagonizing them
16:13.12OluapPlayerSo far the only human in the alliance is Norrigan
16:13.12Impersael2http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TokenHeroicOrc Could this fit Javi BTW?
16:13.16Impersael2Yeah
16:13.25Impersael2I'll just have Lekren and Latar
16:13.32OluapPlayerWhat about Valdemar?
16:13.55Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a75AdZA_460s.jpg
16:13.59Impersael2Well, Valdemar is Imperial as well
16:14.12OluapPlayerHe doesn't seem nazi though hur
16:14.47OluapPlayer"A member of an Always Chaotic Evil race joins the heroes." yes it fits Javina
16:14.52Impersael2He's Nazi but in a different way from Javi; he gets REALLY nervous when nonhumans are around
16:15.13OluapPlayerhe might not be fit for it then
16:15.18Monetwait
16:15.29OluapPlayerFor starters, the leader is a Sand Drake hur
16:15.34MonetWeren't the Blades originally the Emperor's bodyguard?
16:16.01MonetWell, Emperor's Bodyguard/Secret Service
16:16.03Impersael2It'd be funny if Valdemar was invited and he would basically shiver in horror all the time
16:16.05OluapPlayerI don't know the Blades' history other than what they do in Skyrim
16:16.12OluapPlayerwhere they are servants of the Dragonborn
16:16.45MonetHmm..
16:16.55MonetI can see why I thought what I did then
16:17.31MonetSince until the death of Uriel Septim and his son Martin, the Empire was ruled by Dragonborn.
16:17.42OluapPlayerI'll add Lekren and Latar to the member list then
16:17.59Impersael2http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwoferTokenMinority Javina is this trope incarnate hur
16:18.08dromGuys.
16:18.15dromI found the problem with small avatars.
16:18.30dromThe maximum width and heigh stays 250-10. Aka 240x240
16:18.49drom-->{{#vardefine:ibImgWidthMax|{{#expr:{{#var:ibWidth}}-10}}}}<!--
16:19.05dromIt takes the infobox's width and then subtracts it with 10
16:19.11dromThat's the max.
16:19.39HachimanOluapPlayer: Weren't you gonna talk to Ghel about an Orc classification on the deiwos page?
16:19.41dromSo I am going to extend the max to 350. And defining the default as 250.
16:19.48OluapPlayerI was
16:19.58OluapPlayerBut I'm editing Dawn Warden stoof atm
16:20.33OluapPlayerSo you have a Sand Drake, a Merovar, a Bizargar, a half-elf, a human ghost, a Lagosi, a Sea Giant, a Klaxxa and a Däisarvi
16:20.36OluapPlayerDiverse alliance that
16:23.03OluapPlayerGhelae: I think we need a new subsection in the Deiwos page for Orcish races. Since you made the page I wanted to know your instance on adding new types of Deiwos
16:23.57GhelaeI have wondered sometimes where they might fit. It does look like they'll need to be a new subspecies.
16:24.21OluapPlayerI wouldn't put them under elves, humans, giants or dwarves
16:25.08OluapPlayerAlso I think we could have a page for the Theriocephali since they're by far the most diverse
16:25.39Ghelae"Central Deiwes" would fit in with the rest of the subspecies, but I don't know whether they have a single origin. Perhaps "Orcs" should be a wastebasket taxon of orc-like Deiwes.
16:25.48HachimanI personally dunno why we're classifying races by location. You can get small deiwes native to places like the South alongside Giants
16:25.57OluapPlayerYeah
16:26.00GhelaeAnd yes, Theriocephali could have its own page too.
16:26.32OluapPlayerI'm not a fan of classifying through locations either. I imagine just "Elves, Men, Giants, Dwarves, Orcs" would be more than enough
16:26.44GhelaeThe idea behind the classification by location was, originally, that those Deiwes originated in those parts of the world. I made that decision mainly because, at the time, the races happened to cluster in those areas.
16:27.00HachimanWe need to update this hur
16:27.25GhelaeMost human-like races were in the east, most giants were in the south, etc. Of course, there were examples of each kind that had migrated to other parts of the continent.
16:27.57OluapPlayerPersonally I think this kind of classification limits the diversity of the races of each region
16:28.05GhelaeIt was certainly never meant to either limit where the races could go, or to say that races in certain areas had to be related to each other.
16:28.06HachimanaYE
16:28.14OluapPlayerdat
16:28.18OluapPlayerur not member of hivemind
16:29.01OluapPlayerSo I'd say we should ditch classification by locations
16:29.27GhelaeWell, if it's given that impression, then it at least needs to be made more explicit that there aren't supposed to be limits as to where races can go.
16:29.45OluapPlayerWe do that by removing classification by locations hur
16:30.05Impersael2Well TBH
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16:30.36Impersael2Terms like "Eastern Deiwes" "Western Deiwes" would make sense to me
16:31.01Impersael2It's just a name
16:31.04OluapPlayerThat implies these kinds of Deiwes only exist in that region
16:31.09Impersael2Well
16:31.15drom<!-- --> are comments?
16:31.22OluapPlayerAnd different types of subspecies can't exist in the region in question
16:31.24Impersael2Let's take IRL people classifications
16:31.48OluapPlayerWe don't have this type of classification with Kelodhros and Theriocephali, I don't see why Deiwos need it
16:31.52GhelaeI think we should keep the mention that the subspecies originated in certain parts of the planet, because it adds to the backstory. But if people decide to ditch the "[Locaion] Deiwos" names, I won't complain.
16:31.57Ghelaedrom: Yes.
16:32.01Impersael2"Asians" refer to Chinese, Japanese etc yet they are not the only people that live in Asia and they live in other places as well
16:32.32HachimanThe problem is that the "[Location] Deiwos" is associating with exclusive terms like "Giants" and "Dwarves"
16:32.40OluapPlayerYes
16:32.49HachimanNot all native deiwes in the South are Giants
16:32.57MonetWe're talkig heritage here
16:33.04Technobliteratorhey guys!
16:33.06Technobliteratorlol
16:33.10OluapPlayerdumba
16:33.12Technobliteratorya dad
16:33.51Monet"an Eastern Deiwos living in the south" >> Eastern Deiwos tells us what kind of human it is and it doesn't have to mean "this person was born in this region"
16:33.57Impersael2Indeed
16:34.11OluapPlayerBut what if an elf race is native of the east?
16:34.20HachimanAs in, native
16:34.22OluapPlayerThey would also be classified as men
16:34.25HachimanAs in, NATIVE SPECIES
16:34.37Impersael2OluapPlayer: Inuit
16:34.51Impersael2actually nvm
16:34.53HachimanNow either we get rid of the "Man, Elf, Dwarf, Giant" classification and include races under simply "Deiwes" and then classify by location or go with Oluap's suggestion and rid of the classification by location and stick with "Men, Elf, Dwarf, Giant"
16:34.55Impersael2You're right
16:35.01MonetThere are plenty of Indians in the UK who have been here for several generations and are et still called Indians.
16:35.12Impersael2Men, Elf, Dwarf, Giant fit
16:35.13HachimanYou're not getting my point Monet]
16:36.00HachimanMy point is it implies ALL deiwes in the South for example are Giants when other native deiwos species don't share anything in common with Giants, like say size
16:36.33HachimanBy this logic, you can have midget deiwos native to the South and classify them under Giants
16:36.45OluapPlayerYes, that's the point I'm trying to make
16:37.21MonetDid these Midget Deiwos in your example emerge i nthe South or did they migrate there?
16:37.26HachimanEmerge
16:37.30HachimanAs in, what native means
16:38.27GhelaeI did wonder if Neva were made part of the dwarf subspecies simply because they were referred to as "northern deiwes".
16:38.42HachimanNow we could risk having to use a load of subsections or whatever they're called and divide Men/Elf/Dwarf/Giant/Orc sections with Northern/Eastern/Southern/Western subsections
16:39.02OluapPlayerThat seems pointless to me
16:39.15GhelaeI don't think we need any kind of classification by location.
16:39.20HachimanWell alright true
16:39.30GhelaeThe current classification isn't supposed to be by location; it's just given the wrong impression that it is.
16:39.35Hachimanrite
16:39.50OluapPlayerLet's just make everything clean and simple and have "Elves, Men, Giants, Dwarves, Orcs"
16:39.57HachimanRight, let's do that
16:39.58OluapPlayerAnd whatever else we come up with if the situation calls for it
16:40.01HachimanSo how are we gonna classify the distinctions between Man, Elf, Giant, Dwarf, and Orc
16:40.12GhelaeThe distinctions are already made on the page.
16:40.17HachimanOh rite hur
16:40.22OluapPlayerThe current distinctions are usable
16:40.29OluapPlayerJust the location classification isn't
16:40.56GhelaeThe location classifications were merely based on the idea that the different subspecies can trace their origins back to those parts of the planet (or most races can, at least).
16:41.14GhelaeI think we should keep that part of it, but make it obvious that it's not a defining characteristic.
16:41.19OluapPlayerWell, to be honest, that page was made when the fantasyverse was still in the making
16:41.23OluapPlayerA lot has changed since then
16:41.38GhelaeIf enough ha changed to make that a problem, then those bits can go.
16:41.48GhelaeThat might be required for Elves, which seem to be all over the planet.
16:42.05Technobliteratordrom: uh, why did you make those edits to the infobox metatemplate?
16:42.13GhelaeBut it looks to me like it still applies for the other three classes.
16:42.26GhelaeI'm certain it won't apply for orcs, though.
16:42.55HachimanI don't see why; just state their place of origin on their page
16:42.56OluapPlayerAlright so I'll edit the page unless anyone wants to add anything to the discussion
16:43.31dromTechnobliterator, because I found out that it was the maximum range that caused the |image size to stop working, only values under 240 work.
16:43.45dromNow it's extended to 270.
16:44.21OluapPlayerI'll also move the Néva to Elves since they're elves and not dwarves hur
16:44.41Technobliteratoruh, are you sure?
16:44.43dromBut I fear that it doesn't affect the |main image<#> size.
16:44.52Technobliteratorbecause if you've fixed it, that's awesome
16:45.07Technobliteratornever really took a major look into it and assumed the problem was on wikia's end
16:45.45TechnobliteratorI've no idea why the infobox template is still infobox/new though
16:46.01OluapPlayerHachiman: You want the Khahurnim to be kept under Men or you want it changed to Elves?
16:46.25HachimanHmm
16:46.32HachimanNah put them in elves
16:46.35OluapPlayerrite
16:46.48dromTechnobliterator, you can always dig in the code and try to understand on how they work.
16:47.05TechnobliteratorI do understand how it works, just not the image stuff
16:47.17Technobliteratorthe image stuff bugs me because it should, in theory, be working fine
16:47.18HachimanWe need more Men and Dwarves in this case
16:47.20Technobliteratorit just isn't
16:47.27GhelaeThe main reason for keeping that information on the page is that it adds to some of the shared Deiwos backstory. Whether that's important enough, I'll leave it to you to decide.
16:47.56Impersael2Hachiman: Well
16:47.59HachimanWell, unless we include the Men ethnicities like Alhassans, Mannazians, Manorians, etc
16:48.00OluapPlayerThe dwarf gallery is gonna be empty
16:48.06dromTechnobliterator, I recently found a goof in the section where it defines the |main image<#>. But it's now fixed.
16:48.09OluapPlayerI don't think these count as subspecies
16:48.14Impersael2We could just split Imperial humans into ethnicities
16:48.18Impersael2...dam u ninjad
16:48.19Technobliteratoralright
16:48.20Technobliteratoralso
16:48.26HachimanWeren't Khoyan'Xa dwarves?
16:48.30Impersael2OluapPlayer: Well I don't think the Islanders do either
16:48.32HachimanOh wait I'm thinking of Tragnon
16:48.33Technobliteratordon't add text to the template itself next time, even if it is under <!--
16:48.36Technobliteratorjust add it to the doc
16:48.40HachimanAnd even then Tragnon aren't canon anymore
16:48.44HachimanI think
16:48.48OluapPlayerWe remove Islanders then
16:49.30GhelaeSurely all of the races listed on the page are only ethnicities, since they're below subspecies in the taxonomy?
16:49.41dromTechnobliterator, understood, but it's a pointer.
16:49.57Impersael2I think Islanders are humans, just Asian as opposed to European/Southwestern Asian Imperials
16:50.20Impersael2BTW
16:50.29HachimanI myself think we should include ethnicities
16:50.52HachimanMan ethnicities have different physiologies and abilities between one another just as much as Elven subspecies
16:50.54Impersael2I am writing about Valdemar now, do you want any characters of yours to have interacted with him in the past?
16:51.03Impersael2Jo: dats racist hur
16:51.11Impersael2*Hachi
16:51.27GhelaeI agree with including the Empire of Man's ethnicities.
16:51.40Jepardihttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aOqGqvD_460s_v2.jpg
16:51.51OluapPlayerTo the Deiwos page?
16:51.54HachimanYes
16:52.02OluapPlayerRight I'll do that
16:52.22HachimanMen show more diversity as a single species while Elves show more diversity through subspecies
16:52.36Technobliteratoryeah
16:52.39Technobliteratorbut the doc is for pointers
16:53.18Impersael2This would actually make sense scientifically
16:53.41OluapPlayerRight added them
16:53.46OluapPlayerNow lemme add orcs
16:53.51Impersael2Genetically speaking, humans are quite homogenous as compared to other Earth species
16:54.17HachimanCould we also have a section for hybrids?
16:54.29HachimanOr would that be unnecessary
16:54.30Impersael2This would make sense
16:54.44Impersael2Also ^ look what I wrote abovw
16:54.56OluapPlayerWe don't have species of hybrids as far as I know
16:54.57dromTechnobliterator. I just realized that height also limits the image.
16:54.58OluapPlayerOnly individuals
16:54.59dromDerp
16:55.11HachimanIndividuals can represent hybrids though
16:55.11Technobliterator?
16:55.16Technobliteratoryeah?
16:55.22dromNow I have to find out how to multiply the width.
16:55.33Technobliteratoryou could let me handle it
16:55.38dromGo ahead...
16:55.39Technobliteratoranyway everyone
16:55.40Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Fiction_navboxes_and_templates
16:57.16OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Deiwos#Races this is what I got
16:57.49HachimanAwesome, looks far more correct
16:58.16dromTechnobliterator, do you think 3 to 4 should be enough?
16:58.25Technobliterator3 to 4 which?
16:58.38dromAs the multiplying factor.
16:59.03Technobliteratorurm
16:59.06Technobliteratorwhat's the context?
16:59.11HachimanNow we just need dwarves hur
16:59.14OluapPlayerRight I'll make a page for the Theriobeastcritters now
16:59.14Impersael2Is gud
16:59.19Hachimanyey
16:59.29OluapPlayerBut gotta make a picture first
17:00.18HachimanDon't use the current Lagosi model
17:01.04OluapPlayeruses the current Lagosi model
17:01.06HachimanWait does anybody have Kanna's png?
17:01.13HachimanDid I upload Kanna's png
17:01.16OluapPlayerYou did
17:01.57HachimanI think he has an updated appearance, you could remove the mask and maybe the hair and make a new default Lagosi model out of that
17:02.04OluapPlayerrite
17:02.11OluapPlayerI'll take various races from various users
17:02.14OluapPlayerI'll be one big beastman salad
17:03.32HachimanLagosi tend to be a light-brownish, like the current model used on the Lagosi page
17:04.01OluapPlayerHmm no wait
17:04.06OluapPlayerYou didn't upload Kanna's PNG after all
17:04.13Hachimanfuck
17:04.14HachimanFUCK
17:04.36HachimanUse Hachi's then, take away the arm and try and replicate his normal one, as well as his eye
17:04.53OluapPlayerrite
17:09.59OluapPlayerhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140326170947/spore/images/0/06/LagosiPlaceholder.png like this?
17:10.33HachimanYus
17:10.38OluapPlayerluv me
17:11.03Hachimanlurv u <3
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17:19.03OfficerJackalHello!
17:20.11GhelaeHello.
17:21.58MonetHachiman: I noticed Ryza likes going barefoot.
17:22.10HachimanJah
17:22.42MonetIf I recall, walking around barefoot is actually better for climbing the rigging than waring boots.
17:24.05MonetYou get a better grip on the ropes and you reduce the risk of injuring fellow seamen who may also be climbing.
17:24.30Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Fiction_navboxes_and_templates nice comments people
17:24.31Technobliterator._.
17:25.05HachimanTechnobliterator: I have no idea what you're talking about in that forum hur
17:25.15Technobliterator...
17:25.19Technobliteratorwhy not
17:25.21Technobliterator:c
17:25.38TechnobliteratorUser:Technobliterator/Nav vs Template:ImpNav
17:25.58HachimanOh
17:26.01HachimanI don't see an issue
17:26.10HachimanJust let people do their stuff hur
17:26.53GhelaeSo that's a comment in favour of "Allow in the Templatespace".
17:27.31HachimanWell more like it's a comment in favour of allowing both Nav subpages and template pages
17:27.34HachimanWhatever's easier
17:27.45HachimanI'm just neutral hur
17:28.37Technobliteratorthen that's a comment in the nuetral place
17:28.59Hachimanhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140326172708/spore/images/9/96/Theriocephali.png look wat oluap made
17:29.01OluapPlayerhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140326172815/spore/images/9/96/Theriocephali.png there we ago
17:29.05OluapPlayergo even
17:29.09OluapPlayerwut u doin ninjaing me
17:29.21Hachimanhivemind
17:29.24Technobliteratordem ioketa
17:29.39TechnobliteratorI made fantasy ioketa?
17:29.54GhelaeYes.
17:30.06Technobliteratorsweet
17:30.07Technobliteratoranyway
17:30.08OluapPlayerstupid
17:30.15Hachimanbaka
17:30.16Technobliteratorcomment on forum or i'll judgement bolt you
17:30.16Technobliteratorwait
17:30.20Technobliteratorthis is sporewiki
17:30.23TechnobliteratorI'll remove you from time then
17:30.33OluapPlayerI feel like the Caharil's like "where the hell am I"
17:31.07HachimanThe Ordnung are absolutely tiny hur
17:31.28Monettechnobliterator: You created the post half an hour ago, give it time woman!
17:31.29OluapPlayerWell sizes are not really on scale in that picture
17:31.39Technobliteratorno
17:31.41OluapPlayerA Lagosi isn't taller than a Merovar hur
17:31.43TechnobliteratorI control time
17:31.44*** join/#sporewiki Xho (52189c62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.24.156.98)
17:31.48Technobliteratorif it does not bend to my will
17:31.50GhelaeHello.
17:31.55XhoI HAVE RETURNED
17:31.59HachimanI wonder where faggot-feet is
17:31.59Technobliteratorthen it is the fault of everyone else
17:31.59XhoWITH A RUMBLING STOMACH
17:32.01Technobliteratorhey xho
17:32.01HachimanOhai Xho
17:32.52OluapPlayerthere I commented on your stinking forum
17:32.52OluapPlayerspu
17:32.59Xhou
17:33.01HachimanLets do Forgotten Lands stoof
17:33.06XhoWait what
17:33.11OluapPlayerstoopid
17:33.24HachimanOh right
17:33.30HachimanGolden Necropolis stoof then
17:33.32MonetLol
17:33.34OluapPlayerstahp
17:33.38MonetThat's over too
17:33.39Xho~castrate Hachiman
17:33.39infobotACTION snaps her gloves and grabs her rusty razor, "now Hachiman, this will probably hurt so feel free to scream."
17:33.43OluapPlayergo finish paegs you filthy animal
17:33.46Technobliteratorno
17:33.50Technobliteratorwe should do borealis war stoof!
17:33.53MonetI'd ask for TSAD but no Impy. Damn
17:33.55Technobliterator#BorealisWarStoof
17:33.57OluapPlayershakes head
17:34.03XhoI have no active stories apart from Tantum
17:34.04OluapPlayerI'll go back to making that page
17:34.15OluapPlayerXho: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140326172815/spore/images/9/96/Theriocephali.png ur creatures are in dis
17:34.16XhoAnd Tantum's currently on hold as I flesh out the plot
17:34.18Technobliteratory u no join cleansing flames then
17:34.18Hachimanhao bout u get in da channel
17:34.19Xhoso I have no active specie
17:34.24Xhospecies
17:34.25Xhowat
17:34.26Xhostories*
17:34.35Technobliteratoralso y u no git in channel
17:34.42XhoOluapPlayer: much caw and sss
17:35.11HachimanRight I call OP dwarves before Xho does
17:35.13XhoWhen are we going to make that supernatural creature page
17:35.19HachimanYou mean Fey?
17:35.25XhoI have OP otherworldly deities and roman expy armies
17:35.27OluapPlayerThose are fairies
17:35.30XhoOP dwarves is anticlimatic
17:36.00XhoI mean things from like Nothing/Midnight/Zenth/Wherever
17:36.11XhoSo like Daedra in Elder Scrolls terms
17:36.11Technobliteratoralso http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Fiction_navboxes_and_templates please have more people comment than just oluap
17:36.13Hachimanwen u stahp bein lazy
17:36.26OluapPlayerdiidri
17:36.45XhoSo Phoenixes for example
17:36.57XhoWho will eventually be moved to such sections
17:37.06OluapPlayeru will be moved to the dog house
17:37.11XhoRendering Oluap's picture pretty much invalid hur
17:37.29OluapPlayer2bad I ain't updating that picture
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17:37.32OluapPlayerTook me too much time to make
17:37.34GhelaeHello.
17:37.40WormyHello
17:37.54WormyA new creation Oluap?
17:38.02HachimanTechnobliterator: commented
17:38.02OluapPlayerhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140326172815/spore/images/9/96/Theriocephali.png this picture
17:38.09Technobliteratorcool
17:38.36WormyLots of tall aliens
17:38.44WormyHachiman has changed colour.
17:38.51OluapPlayerThose are fantasy races
17:39.05Technobliteratorbut note one thing
17:39.13Wormystill alien to me hur
17:39.14Technobliteratorallowing in the templatespace means that their name will be changed
17:39.22Technobliteratorprobably should have mentioned that on the fourm
17:39.36OluapPlayerNeedless work
17:39.50Technobliteratorconsistency is not needless work
17:39.58HachimanDoesn't matter to anything
17:40.03XhoRight so I'm gonna get started on that page
17:40.05XhoWhat should I call it
17:40.10XhoOr that section
17:40.16Technobliteratorexcept the way they are all named
17:40.19XhoSection perhaps since we don't have enough to make a page
17:40.21Technobliteratorso yes it does matter
17:40.26HachimanNah
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17:41.00Technobliteratorif you vote neutral I guess that means, not caring what any of the names of stuff are which is fine
17:41.10XhoWhat should I call the page
17:41.14HachimanThe current system works fine, don't try to fix what isn't broken
17:41.14XhoOr section even
17:41.17XhoSection
17:41.25HachimanXho: Where are you puttin the section?
17:41.28XhoI dunno
17:41.30Technobliteratorno
17:41.34XhoProbably on the Koldenwelt/Races page
17:41.34Technobliteratorthere IS no current system
17:41.43Technobliteratorpeople just do whatever
17:41.54HachimanNo, the current system is exactly people doing whatever
17:41.59Technobliteratorno
17:42.01Technobliterator...
17:42.03HachimanLet them do what they want and what's easier for them
17:42.08Technobliteratorthere IS no current system, the forum is asking if thers hould be
17:42.15XhoWell there doesn't need to be a system
17:42.20GhelaeThat is a system. It's just called "anarchy". :P
17:42.30XhoThere hasn't been a system and the lack of aforementioned/hypothetical system isn't need really
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17:42.32Technobliteratorwhich is fine
17:42.37Xho*neede
17:42.42XhoFUCKING FUKCINGGFIHGTUO4613492659PT4T6
17:42.49Hachiman*fucking
17:42.50Technobliteratoramazing
17:42.52XhoThank you
17:43.13XhoBut what to call the page
17:43.15Technobliteratortechnically nothing is needed. it would just be nice
17:43.19Technobliteratoranyway thanks for commenting
17:43.48HachimanYou're trying to formalize the wiki further than it needs to be, you're promoting your infleunce and dominance, you are being Putin right now
17:43.59Hachimantwas joke btw
17:44.39XhoSo
17:44.41XhoName page
17:44.43XhoFor the fourth time
17:44.46OluapPlayerBob
17:44.52Hachimanhao bout u fuckin name it
17:44.53Xhokicks OluapPlayer into the sun
17:44.53OluapPlayerI don't have a name dangit
17:45.08HachimanSo, you're doing a page for planes?
17:45.15GhelaeIs this the page for magical species?
17:45.28XhoGhelae: Magical species or otherworldly species
17:45.32XhoThere might be a difference
17:45.43Technobliterator[17:43] <Hachiman> You're trying to formalize the wiki further than it needs to be, you're promoting your infleunce and dominance, you are being Putin right now
17:45.46Technobliteratoryes
17:45.49Technobliteratoryou are all my nazi soldiers
17:45.55XhoCommunist*
17:45.57HachimanKoldenwelt/Aliens
17:46.04Technobliteratormakes the sieg heil sign thingy
17:46.06TechnobliteratorBOW TO ME
17:46.08XhoCommunist*
17:46.13Technobliteratorfine
17:46.14Technobliteratorcommunist
17:46.24Technobliteratori'm putin not hitler then
17:46.32XhoStalin*
17:46.36TechnobliteratorFINE
17:46.49Hachiman*Finoski
17:46.50Technobliteratorremoves the planet from time
17:46.51TechnobliteratorFUCK THIS
17:46.55Hachiman*cyka
17:46.56Xho*Chairman Mao
17:47.02TechnobliteratorI wish I had my Kefka powers here :(
17:47.07OluapPlayeru all stfu pls
17:47.07Hachiman*Rasputin
17:47.12Technobliterator...
17:47.19Xho*Cheese
17:47.26Hachiman*Soda Popinski
17:47.35XhoRasputin Cheese Soda Popinski
17:47.36Technobliteratormake up your minds
17:47.38Technobliteratorwho am I?!
17:47.39XhoWhat a band name
17:47.49TechnobliteratorI DON'T KNOW WHO I AM ANYMORE
17:47.51XhoHm so the name for a page
17:47.54TechnobliteratorBRB BEING EMO
17:48.06HachimanKoldenwelt/Aliens
17:48.06HachimanKoldenwelt/Outsiders
17:48.12XhoSo within a minute we caused Jo to have an existential crisis
17:48.18HachimanAye
17:48.22XhoPretty good considering it was inadvertent (mostly)
17:48.33Technobliteratorhm
17:48.35Technobliteratorirc moment?
17:48.40HachimanNah
17:48.45Technobliteratorfuk ur opinion
17:48.45XhoHm wasn't that funny really
17:48.48GhelaeHmm. If I knew we were going to need a classification for otherworldly species, I would have kept "Deiwos" for that. Would have been more appropriate.
17:49.01XhoThere aren't many otherworldly species though
17:49.08XhoRight now there seems to be only Phoenixes and Chimera
17:49.20GhelaeOtherworldly, supernatural, whatever.
17:49.28XhoBoth of them fall under the same category which is...
17:49.30XhoI dunno
17:49.33GhelaeMAGIC.
17:49.37Xhosnort snort
17:49.38Technobliteratorwhat's wrong with using the outworld?
17:49.41HachimanGhelae's getting angry
17:49.54Ghelaeturns Hachiman into a frog
17:50.04Technobliteratorremoves Ghelae from time
17:50.11HachimanI went from rabbit to ribbit
17:50.17Xhoohoho
17:50.19Ghelaejumps back into time and turns Technobliterator into a Hachiman
17:50.29Technobliterator...
17:50.30Hachiman*Horny man
17:50.31XhoSo
17:50.34XhoTwo frogs then
17:50.34Technobliteratorok
17:50.38XhoOr two horny male frogfs
17:50.38HachimanWell same thing really
17:50.40Xho*frogas
17:50.41Technobliteratori'm a horny perverted geezer
17:50.42Technobliteratorso
17:50.46TechnobliteratorBEWBS
17:50.48Hachimanur a geezer
17:50.49TechnobliteratorBEWBS EVERYWHERE
17:50.50XhoI AM GOING TO FUCK THIS KEYBOARD RIGHT IN THE MOTHERBOARD
17:50.51Technobliteratoris that right
17:50.53XhoOR MY FINGERS
17:50.55XhoONE OF THOSE TWO
17:51.01XhoOR ELVEN
17:51.03XhoELEVEN
17:51.06XhoFuck this seriously
17:51.07HachimanElven
17:51.10HachimanWhich reminds me
17:51.28Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Deiwos Been makin updates
17:51.38HachimanLook at all that work I did
17:51.52OluapPlayerur work suks go eat a dik
17:52.08XhoI really need to remake the Shiarchon
17:52.11XhoArmour that is
17:52.13XhoBody's fine
17:52.21Hachimaneats his own dik
17:53.02dromkey in your mother.
17:53.12Xhokeys in his mother
17:53.14Wormyself-recursive hachi
17:53.15XhoI don't get it
17:53.20Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
17:53.26Xho>ouroboros
17:53.32XhoTHE XHODOCTO ARE COMING THE XHODOCTO ARE COMING
17:53.53HachimanI am the danger
17:54.05XhoYou know
17:54.10XhoI have lost total focus on this conversation
17:54.22OluapPlayerI've lost track ages ago
17:54.29WormyStranger danger!  Dangerous strangers!
17:54.31GhelaeI don't think this conversation has focus on this conversation.
17:55.04XhoWhat about conservation
17:55.21WormyOhgodyes http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/mar/25/star-trek-warnog-official-klingon-beer
17:55.41Xho5.5%
17:56.09XhoHell what is in that
17:56.27WormyMost of the ales I drink are 5% or above
17:56.57Wormythen again, for a can
17:57.53HachimanThat's weak for a Klingon
17:57.57HachimanNeeds more ryncol
17:58.33Hachimanhttp://www.thedrunkenmoogle.com/post/1204475764/ryncol-mass-effect-2-cocktail-ingredients-1-oz
17:58.58WormyThat just tries to be Romulan ale.
17:59.22XhoAbsinthe + Blue Curacao + Grain Alcohol
17:59.36XhoThat is what I call strong
18:00.05MonetKrogan - Ur all pussies
18:00.20Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10151245_677336038995865_898967525_n.png
18:00.52MonetTroll
18:01.34MonetTalking of strong drinks I still don't know how concentrated the average Draconid wine would be
18:02.13Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1554496_677364032326399_73327043_n.png
18:03.40WormyThere you go, someone asked about Fantasyverse nanotech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel
18:03.51OluapPlayerI take the singular form of Theriocephali is Theriocephalus
18:05.17MonetYeah
18:05.22GhelaeIt should be, yes.
18:05.54MonetJust a quick check, a typical wine is between 12-15% alcohol right?
18:06.15Wormyish
18:06.24WormyRussian Imperial Stout is 12%
18:06.36WormyPuts it in perspective hur
18:06.50Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/64994_677318312330971_1486342666_n.jpg
18:08.01Hachimanhttp://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/woolly-mammoths-suffered-major-birth-defects-extinction This is kinda sad but important
18:09.07Technobliteratorthat might explain their extinction
18:11.08WormyPygmy Mammoths survived until Roman times on some island.
18:11.56WormyIt was probably the nail in the coffin, but it is thought the environment might have been the ultimate factor, as after the Ice Age, the habitats they relied on dwindled.
18:14.14OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Theriocephali got some stuff done
18:14.23OluapPlayerI'll need help with Etymology and History
18:18.40HachimanAwesome
18:19.04OluapPlayerI'm gonna try making the pictures smaller to see if the page looks better
18:20.00OluapPlayerYes, definetely better with smaller pictures
18:20.03dromIf anyone noticed a big fat red error text. Blame me, but it's fixed now.
18:20.21dromAnyway in the news.
18:20.39dromYou can have your images in 250x500px.
18:21.26dromThis means that high/tall images are now bigger, but still maintain 250 in width. And 500 in height.
18:22.01Technobliteratorstill does not see the use in that
18:22.07OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Theriocephali#Races check again
18:22.22HachimanAh yeah, definitely better
18:23.02OluapPlayerI'll do the same to the Deiwos and Kelodhros pages
18:24.35dromThe former size for the images were 240x240.
18:24.52dromAnd the infobox is 250px wide.
18:36.19OluapPlayerAlright I could come up with a History sectio
18:36.26OluapPlayerBut someone else will have to come up with Etymology
18:36.29OluapPlayerI have no idea about that
18:40.01XhoRight I've made a new image for the Shiarchon
18:40.09XhoNow they actually look regal and scary at the same time
18:40.23OluapPlayershow dis
18:40.36XhoJust a sec
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18:43.08WormyXho, Hachiman:  Korgoth of Barbaria  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep65rr-9qjQ
18:43.22WormyIt's like Conan merts metalocalapse
18:43.51Wormy*metalocalypse
18:45.58Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Shiarchon dere
18:46.19OluapPlayerLooks less dark than I expected
18:46.23OluapPlayerStill pretty gud
18:47.20XhoIs anyone doing the Etymology section
18:47.24XhoFor Theriocephali
18:47.40OluapPlayerConsidering the silence, I don't think so
18:47.58XhoRight I'll go do that then hur
18:48.09XhoDo they want the actual etymology or a fictional one
18:48.58OluapPlayeridunno hur
18:49.08OluapPlayerLike I said I have no idea how it works
18:49.25OluapPlayerKelodhros etymology seems fictional though
18:49.56XhoRight hm
18:50.17XhoI could make it either a corrupted Phoenix word or just one that came about
18:52.47WormyAsteroid found with a ring http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfh_jVEzveE
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18:54.01ImpersaelFoooh
18:54.07MonetHi
18:55.00GhelHello.
18:55.25Wormywat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtPTT1Uv6tM
18:55.50ImpersaelAfter 18 hours of travelling, I have finally reached Eilat
18:56.04ImpersaelIn this country there is problem, AND THAT PROBLEM IS TRANSPORT
18:56.15ImpersaelWormy will get the joke
18:56.21GhelXho: The etymology for the Kelodhres is real in the sense that "Kelodhros" is from PIE and so is assosicated with the Primordial Tongue, while "drako" is from Greek and so is associated with a more recent language.
18:56.37XhoRight
18:56.46Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Theriocephali#Etymology Well there's my input
18:57.07WormyI think those sleeper trains seem fun.
18:58.48OluapPlayerwoo page is complete
18:59.05HachimanXho: http://youtu.be/_W2gpJpZlko
18:59.27ImpersaelWormy: Aye, I remember going to Moscow by train as a child
18:59.32ImpersaelAnd Sochi, and Anapa
18:59.38XhoHachiman: dafuq is dis
19:00.10WormyMakes those puppies look ominous
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19:01.36XhoHm
19:02.05XhoStill trying to think of a name for that otherworlder page
19:02.35GhelSo is "Otherworlders" not good enough?
19:02.40Hachiman"Koldenwelt/Otherworlders"
19:02.44Ghel"Supernatural races"?
19:03.05XhoOtherworlders will do hur
19:03.13XhoBut
19:03.16ImpersaelThe Others
19:03.18ImpersaelOthers
19:03.20OluapPlayerHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AExosubstratal#Species are these Ch'hidites folks Deiwos, Beastmen or Idkin?
19:03.26XhoIt's not got a cool name like Deiwos/Kelodhros/Theriocephali
19:03.41GhelWhat is the PIE root of "Asura" or "Aesir"?
19:03.44HachimanOluapPlayer: Deiwos
19:03.49OluapPlayerrite
19:03.54OluapPlayerwhat kind of Deiwos hur
19:03.58XhoGhel: Dwosos
19:04.04Xho"demon"
19:04.23HachimanI'd say Man
19:04.29XhoDhwosos even
19:04.33OluapPlayerdey gun to the gallery den
19:04.36ImpersaelToo borinf
19:04.48OluapPlayerur boring
19:04.49ImpersaelToo boring and too similar to "Deiwos"
19:04.57ImpersaelHm
19:05.01ImpersaelOn the other hand
19:05.04GhelDoesn't sound similar to either "Asura" or "Aesir".
19:05.16XhoNgnotos means 'unknown'
19:05.18ImpersaelWe could use a cognate of "Deiwos", "Diyas"
19:05.21XhoBut it sounds dum
19:05.30ImpersaelWhich means "Heavenly" or "Celestial"
19:05.39ImpersaelPater Diyas = Celestial Father
19:05.48OluapPlayer"Ngh notos"
19:05.52ImpersaelDiyas Pater -> Jupiter
19:05.58ImpersaelDiyas -> Zeus
19:06.01XhoJust call it Devasena which is Sanskrit for 'Host of Celestials'
19:06.44WormyPossible evidence of Planet X yay http://phys.org/news/2014-03-edge-solar.html
19:06.53WormyAnd the Oort cloud
19:06.54OluapPlayerOk I think we have every possible species in the fantasyverse classified now
19:07.05OluapPlayerWhich pleases me greatly because we have a working species list
19:07.15HachimanUntil I introduce fey
19:07.21Xhohon
19:07.27OluapPlayerMe and Imp already have fey you stinky
19:07.32GhelWell, if "Theriocephalus" isn't PIE, there's no reason why the word for supernatural species needs to be either.
19:07.32Hachimano rite
19:07.53XhoKémelom I like
19:07.59XhoKemelom is PIE for 'Heaven'
19:08.17ImpersaelKemelom
19:08.28ImpersaelWut dat means
19:08.33Xho'Heaven'
19:08.34Xhou dum fuk
19:08.38OluapPlayerSounds edible
19:08.47HachimanKemenom
19:08.56ImpersaelAh
19:09.11ImpersaelKemelom -> Heaven
19:09.12Impersael-> Caelum
19:09.12ImpersaelMakes sense
19:09.20GhelCould we convert that to something meaning "denizen of heaven"?
19:10.02XhoWe could put either 'Apo' or 'Extrod' which both mean 'from'
19:10.11OluapPlayerDenizen of heaven -> includes chimera and Idkin
19:10.12OluapPlayerdat not heaven
19:10.14XhoSo Apokemelom or Extrodkemelom
19:10.40XhoI was gonna say put a Sanskrit meaning for 'hell' in front of Kemelom
19:10.41GhelAnd how do we pluralise those?
19:11.08XhoKemeloi?
19:11.14XhoKemelomei
19:11.22XhoKemelomei I like
19:11.35ImpersaelOm the side note
19:11.51ImpersaelThe PIE ancestor of "Aesir" is "Hensus"
19:12.04XhoHow'd you get that hur
19:12.35XhoOh right wait I know
19:12.38XhoNevermind
19:12.39ImpersaelEtymological dictionaries
19:13.11XhoHensus sounds a bit underwhelming though
19:13.43MonetImperios: Just wondering, will you have much time for RPs while in Israel?
19:13.43ImpersaelAnd the ancestor of "Asura" is "Hnsuro"
19:14.57ImpersaelNot sure about "much" but yeah there woll definitely be time
19:15.03ImpersaelOH and I am closer to you
19:15.12ImpersaelTimezone-wise
19:16.01MonetI imagine you'll be busy during the day
19:16.06XhoI dunno what to do for it
19:18.58ImpersaelBTW guys
19:19.31ImpersaelCould Valdemar interact with any of your chars during the past
19:20.01MonetImperiosael: Could do. Maybe he visited Marcos' court in the past?
19:20.12ImpersaelYeah
19:20.27MonetWait do barons have their own courts or is it jsut them and their knights?
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19:21.08WormyHello
19:21.20The_RandomnessHello everyone
19:21.22GhelHello.
19:21.30MonetActually since Barons are one of the lowest peerage ranks, probably not
19:23.53MonetActually there's an idea, the group could pass through Redshire on their journey.
19:23.58MonetDunno how plausable it is
19:25.27TechnobliteratorI recognise this L33t Lombax guy
19:25.31Technobliteratorfrom the R&C wiki
19:25.57dromHow is he?
19:26.53Technobliteratordo you mean, what is he like?
19:26.55Impersael<PROTECTED>
19:27.02Technobliteratorcan barely remember
19:28.31MonetCan't remember do we have any reptiles/keldhoros in the WLLM group?
19:29.06ImpersaelLekren
19:29.48MonetHe's going ot have fun learning that in Redshire, Marcos' racism towards dragons isn't that shocking.
19:32.12ImpersaelHur
19:32.43ImpersaelLekren - Help me, I am being oppressed!
19:33.21OluapPlayerKimorgos - brb goin to redshire
19:34.14MonetI planned for their knights to be trained to fight dragons
19:34.30MonetOr at least, the barony is home to the kinds of mercenaries good at hunting dragons
19:34.38OluapPlayerFire Drakes - eat shit
19:34.49OluapPlayerCould Fire Drakes have attacked Redshire then?
19:35.25MonetI've always figured the region could have a dragon problem. What kind of dragons I was still unsure.
19:35.38XhoThat far north it could be anything
19:35.44XhoEarth Drakes, Frost Drakes
19:35.46OluapPlayerWhere is it located?
19:36.21HachimanI imagine not many civilized areas accept drow
19:36.23HachimanDrow are the elves that elves hate as equally as Men
19:36.39OluapPlayerSovereign - cept us <3
19:36.41MonetI was thinking either in the Frontier lands or somewhere in the northern reaches of the Empire.
19:36.55HachimanEven in the Sovereign, drow aren't very liked
19:37.04OluapPlayerCould have Fire Drakes then
19:37.13OluapPlayerI imagine they exist in every region to some extent
19:37.14HachimanIt's probable that only very few drow have made it into Sovereign politics in the past
19:37.16Technobliteratorhachi, are you sill unable to rp?
19:37.25HachimanYes
19:37.29Technobliteratorok np
19:38.09GhelRedshire could just be really unlucky and be attacked by all kinds of drakes.
19:38.12Technobliteratorwhen will you be available again?
19:38.38OluapPlayerThe Drakes picked a map and threw a dart to decide which place they would hate the most. Redshire was chosen
19:39.38MonetRedshire has hated dragons ever since
19:40.03OluapPlayerRedshire - gosh darn winged lizards
19:40.06GhelAt least the feeling's mutual. It would be terrible if it were only one-sided loathing.
19:40.29MonetHmm, maybe drakehide cloaks are a mark of distinguishment in Redshire.
19:40.41dromWormy: That fish music is sooooo goddamn relaxing.
19:41.02Wormyit also leaves one with a moral dilemna
19:41.04OluapPlayerI really ought to make some Fire Drake characters who are actual Fire Drakes
19:41.14OluapPlayerAll chars I made so far are deformed to some extent
19:41.29XhoFrost Drake - GET OUTTA MAH TURF
19:41.36OluapPlayerFire Drake - FUK U WOMAN
19:41.44HachimanFrost - Fire Drake spawn
19:41.51OluapPlayerWater Drake?
19:42.08Hachimanhao u get 2 dat conclusion
19:42.12MonetFire-Frost hybrid - KILL MEEE
19:42.14OluapPlayercus fire melts ice
19:42.45GhelEnough fire will vaporise it, too. Steam Drakes?
19:42.52HachimanOoh Steam Drakes
19:42.57OluapPlayerKlaxxa have steam breath as far as I remember
19:42.57XhoStoom Droko
19:43.08OluapPlayerSpeaking of Klaxxa
19:43.13XhoSteam Drakes might be taking the mick slightly
19:43.19OluapPlayerImpersael: Could I make a Fire Drake char for the Klaxxa's empire?
19:44.03GhelYes, we do have enough Drakes already. Enough for the them to get their own subclassifications.
19:44.37dromof, my stomach
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19:45.48GhelHello.
19:46.05The_RandomnessI guess I was in IRC limbo then
19:47.29Wormybrb dinner
19:47.31OluapPlayerNow that I did all that work on the Koldenwelt races, I got nothing to do again
19:47.40WormyBeware the Fish Legions while I am gone.
19:48.22MonetOluapPlayer: Well if Xho is available we could do Purgatory Rising
19:48.34OluapPlayerSuppose so
19:48.55XhoPurgatory Rising
19:49.01XhoRemind me what that is again
19:49.26MonetInquisition's Purgatory Guard take over the Inquisition and lash out at the Dominion.
19:50.17XhoRight right
19:50.27XhoSuppose we could do that
19:50.44ImpersaelBack
19:50.55ImpersaelOluapPlayer: Sure!
19:51.04Monet#PurgatoryStuff
19:51.05OluapPlayeryey
19:51.20ImpersaelPerhaps he could be Lekren's grandfather
19:51.30OluapPlayerYeah
19:51.39OluapPlayerNot sure about his role though
19:51.42OluapPlayerOther than that
19:54.37ImpersaelHe could be Arken-Lak's one-dragon honour guard
19:55.36Technobliteratorpurgatory rising?
19:55.39Technobliteratorurm
19:55.41OluapPlayerDrake - dunt mess with my teeny boss
19:55.57TechnobliteratorI'm in the dominion, so can I join if it's not too late?
19:56.13ImpersaelHe should also speak like a Brit
19:56.26OluapPlayerDrake - dunt mess with my teeny boss, I say
19:56.32OluapPlayerthere, brit
19:56.35Impersaelhur
19:56.55MonetTechnobliterator: Could do but we'd need to discuss how
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20:11.38Wormyhi
20:11.40The_RandomnessOops
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20:12.01Hachimandumternet
20:12.03The_RandomnessDidn't mean to disconnect myself there
20:13.08The_Randomnessbrb
20:13.15Wormybye again
20:13.29OluapPlayeromg hai fag
20:14.24ImpersaelHi Hachiwoman
20:15.09OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/721/302/3a5.png that face gets me every time
20:15.31Hachimanolol
20:15.32dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/YqiiL
20:16.51OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/690/100/147.png
20:17.09Hachimanohgod
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20:18.23dromdum crash
20:18.34dromOculus's future: http://i.imgur.com/SxrAa7Y.jpg
20:19.09OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I dlcare this the music for Hachi's fight with Kol
20:19.13OluapPlayerdeclare even
20:19.40HachimanVideo dunt exist
20:20.06dromHachiman: Since you like wieners. http://imgur.com/gallery/XXkHqqJ
20:20.21OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r9N97aAqqg dangit
20:21.41Hachimanohgod
20:22.19HachimanAside from the kazoos the banjo actually makes it sound pretty cool hur
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20:23.13OluapPlayerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGIcl_tUFss my favorite still
20:23.47ImpersaelSo guys
20:24.07ImpersaelNobody wants to get involved with Valdemar?
20:24.33OluapPlayerI don't have anyone to be involved with him
20:25.46HachimanWell Valdemar could have met Kanna in the past
20:26.08HachimanI dunno if it's possible he met Ryza beforehand
20:26.15ImpersaelActually nah
20:26.52ImpersaelHe's not very social so he should probably remain a loner
20:27.08dromThis is a interesting story. http://imgur.com/gallery/Jxj7T
20:32.03drommy stomach feels wired today.
20:33.50dromI even had a diarrhea.
20:34.03dromBah, as usual.
20:34.14Hachimanbrb
20:34.38WormyToo much details
20:35.13dromWormy: It's because I love being detailful.
20:38.57dromSo, I wonder that GC will be in Sporewiki this year.
20:39.03dromwhat*
20:39.18dromAnd how it turns out after all the wait.
20:39.22dromman...
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20:40.27Hachimanhai agen
20:40.33dromWhat's your speculations about GC?
20:40.35OluapPlayeri mised u deer
20:40.36dromHai hachi
20:40.38OluapPlayernow go finish paegs
20:42.22dromUaaargh! I need all the quotes!
20:42.40Technobliteratorhmm
20:42.45Technobliteratordunno what to do next in cleansing flames
20:44.56dromermahgerd, Cyrannian is online now
20:45.17OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/723/824/c03.jpg
20:45.24dromWait, it was 1 hour ago.
20:45.46HachimanOluapPlayer: ohgod
20:45.47Technobliteratorno
20:45.49Technobliteratorit was 2 mins ago
20:46.00OluapPlayer"Do not wander astray" got me good
20:47.01dromi dun get it
20:47.09OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/723/921/9cb.jpg
20:47.17OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/724/202/a44.gif
20:47.44Hachimanolol
20:47.50dromTechnobliterator. >2 mins ago.
20:47.57drom>20:45
20:48.09drom>21:45 here
20:48.09Technobliteratorand the time is 20:48?
20:48.10HachimanThat was two minutes ago
20:48.11Technobliteratorwhat's your point?
20:49.31XhoDifferent time zones hur
20:49.44OluapPlayerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/719/827/c8a.jpg
20:49.53Technobliteratorwikia defaults to either the american time zone or the british time zone
20:50.03dromthat's dum
20:50.56dromIt's now fixed.
20:51.32OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/721/296/f7c.jpg olé
20:51.46Hachimanolol
20:52.44OluapPlayerHachi - WIIIIIIIIIIENER      Venoriel - http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/722/886/b93.jpg
20:53.50Hachimanohgod dat face
20:54.04Xho"i forgot how to wat"
20:55.49OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/a/src/1395860587933.gif NOOODIST
20:56.13HachimanBEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAACH
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20:56.26Liquid_InkHello!
20:56.39GhelHello.
20:57.31OluapPlayerXho: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/723/812/26e.png wanka
20:57.56Xhoholy dooly
20:59.20OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/723/967/61b.gif Titanic, Michael Bay edition
21:01.03OluapPlayerHachiman Xho: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/722/721/4a3.gif an expanding dong
21:01.15XhoDONG
21:02.05Hachimanolol
21:02.32OluapPlayerHachiman: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/722/986/ca8.jpg Starring Oluap as Wolverine
21:02.58Hachimandaww
21:03.02OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/722/982/806.jpg then there's this
21:04.52OluapPlayerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/705/198/179.png Future Javina to Future Hachi
21:07.35Hachimanohgod
21:07.39XhoHachiman: "You know a band sucks when you are able to play an entire song on just one string. (Inb4 angry dj0nt kids.)"
21:07.48Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhOYflyfOPM In reference to this
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21:14.20CatfaceHachiman Wormy: Sad say for humanity. http://www.metalsucks.net/gwars-manager-releases-new-statement-regarding-death-dave-brockie.html
21:14.53Catface*day
21:15.24HachimanRIP Oderus Urungus
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21:16.04CatfaceMay he find his mountain of crack.
21:20.58WormyDamn
21:21.47CatfaceI think the circumstances of his death are a bit odd.
21:25.21WormyCatface:  Here is something to cheer you up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgEewGRLnY
21:27.23ImpersaelOluapPlayer: hue
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21:38.25GhelHello.
21:38.46AvilladoxHi
21:38.47Wormyhi
21:39.13dromhello
21:39.15Catfacekills AdmiralPanda to keep America clean.
21:39.25AdmiralPandaI'm not even in America
21:39.38AdmiralPandaand even if I was in America, I'm bringing up the standard baby
21:40.33CatfaceThe standards of of popular music?
21:40.37CatfaceI sure hope os.
21:40.39Catfaceso.
21:41.27Technobliteratorimplying popular music standards have ever been high
21:41.57MonetI don't think that's what he meant
21:42.30CatfaceYes.
21:43.38MonetI mean Panda
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22:21.22MonetGhel: I've been thinking perhaps there could be a blog (or perhaps a section of your "guide to stuff" blog) relating to an explaination of war.
22:21.46Wormyand realistic space combat
22:21.55GhelMaybe. There's plenty of room inthe guide, after all.
22:22.22MonetWormy: Fully realistic space combat might be too much.
22:22.48GhelThat wouldn't stop me. :P
22:22.50MonetBut awareness of the third dimension, lack of friction and lack of projectile curvature could be explained.
22:23.02MonetGhel: That's because you're an AI superintelligence
22:23.13GhelSo everyone keeps on telling me.
22:23.22WormyI did mean the cool stuff, I don't mean to eliminate the traditional space naval battles.
22:24.07MonetI don't know how many people would be able to include stuff li Hohmann transfer orbits.or firing in relation to orbital mechanics in their battles
22:24.08WormyIn fact in Orion's Arm, the way space battles are unrealistically depicted was true of earlier ages before the militaries adapted to 3D and 4D combat
22:24.25GhelI might leave this for other people to write anyway.
22:25.28GhelBut we'll see how I feel about it in the future. And there's a lot of future in the future.
22:25.49*** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (8ea3856e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.163.133.110)
22:25.50WormyAnd of course, SporeWikiverse probably has FTL combat
22:25.53Wormyhi
22:25.56GhelHello.
22:25.57DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
22:26.19GhelFTL combat can get its own segment of the hyperspace page, I think.
22:26.29Wormyyeah
22:26.43AvilladoxHi Drodo
22:28.29GhelThe Guide to Stuff isn't supposed to go into huge levels of detail about everything, mind you. Sometimes I feel like some parts have too much text already.
22:29.03GhelNot that I currently intend to purge any parts of it.
22:29.13MonetI still think the basics of waging a war could be covered.
22:29.28WormyEventually you will have condensed and distilled all the text into a single equation.
22:29.31drom<PROTECTED>
22:29.56MonetSupply lines, morale, soldier-to-civillian ratios etc.
22:30.14MonetI think a lot of newwer military-oriented empires don't factor these in
22:30.35MonetFor one, war in its nature is bloody expensive.
22:32.50DrodoEmpireMonet: Well... It can also spur massive economic growth and provide jobs. :P
22:33.24WormyGhel:  I'm starting to think this bloke managed to scribble down his dream logic http://www.timecube.com/
22:33.31MonetSo long as your supply lines are good.
22:33.57DrodoEmpireThough for the growth to last you have to be at war; It can be difficult to convert those munitions factories into civilian ones postwar
22:34.01DrodoEmpire*post-war
22:34.22GhelWormy: That page no grammar has even.
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22:34.42PrimiusHi
22:34.47dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/xbmzqYp
22:34.51DrodoEmpireEither way I'll help with the whole military strategy page if needed or wanted to. :P
22:35.00GhelDrodoEmpire: Beating swords into ploughshares has become more difficult over recent centuries, yes.
22:36.22GhelAnd if you really want to make this page, nothing's stopping you from doing it whenever you like.
22:36.24DrodoEmpireI dunno, sometimes wars are very costly (like the Vietnam War), other times they bring massive, if somewhat brief, prosperity to a country afterwards and even during (WWI and WWII)
22:36.44DrodoEmpireI guess it depends on if you're winning or not. XD
22:36.47PrimiusGuys
22:36.56PrimiusDo you hear me
22:37.03dromYes?
22:37.10DrodoEmpireYes, my attentionseeking friend, yes.
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22:37.15DrodoEmpire*attention-seeking
22:37.19PrimiusKk
22:37.21PrimiusHi
22:37.27Ghel~give Primius a cookie
22:37.27infobotACTION gives Primius a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up.
22:37.28DrodoEmpireWhy am I missing the hyphon recently?
22:37.32Primius:D
22:37.50Primius~eat cookie along with Primius
22:37.51infobotThat's too disgusting.
22:37.51dromDrodoEmpire, hyphon?
22:37.54Primiusoh
22:38.03DrodoEmpireThis thing; -
22:38.08Primius-
22:38.09Primius-
22:38.20DrodoEmpireIt divides certain words like "attention-seeking"
22:38.48Primiusdgfjl
22:39.21DrodoEmpirePrimus, what is the purpose of your spamming?
22:39.42Primiusoh
22:39.43Primiussrry
22:39.54DrodoEmpireWell it should be common sense, that's all.
22:40.21dromDrodoEmpire, in the Swedish language, you don't need "hyphon"
22:40.29HachimanStop spamming Primius
22:40.37HachimanYou've been told about this before
22:40.43Primiusok
22:41.04dromPrimius, you spam again, you'll fly with the head first.
22:41.18GhelIt's also spelt "hyphen".
22:41.50dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/VqPUX3o.jpg
22:41.53MonetIs there any chance "hypohn" and "hyphen" is a British/American thing?
22:42.09MonetI know Drodo's Canadian
22:42.10DrodoEmpireMonet: It might be; I almost always use the british spelling
22:42.22PrimiusMonet: I am too
22:42.23DrodoEmpireAs that is how Canadians also write
22:42.27HachimanAmerican is just simplified English
22:42.28dromI always use the rosbiff spelling.
22:42.32MonetDrodoEmpire: British spelling is "Hyphen"
22:42.34DrodoEmpireHachiman: Yes.
22:42.47Primiushttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ABattle_of_Krikonkrin ratings?
22:42.51DrodoEmpireMonet: Well I know that now; My mistake I guess.
22:43.18MonetI recall there are some users here that, while English isn't their first language, defer to Americna spellings.
22:43.25MonetAmerican*
22:44.14dromSo you mean, that people who speak English as non-native language stick to American spelling?
22:44.17HachimanPrimius: I'll tell you now what I told you before - it's lazy, there is no immersion in the story, I have no care for any of the characters if there even is any, and it's so brief it's not even worth reading over again
22:44.20DrodoEmpirePrimus: It isn't very specific and suffers from movie tactics/WWI tactics from what I can tell.
22:45.00DrodoEmpireI... Have to agree with Hachi; From a tactical standpoint its also very... bad, I'm sorry
22:45.03AngrybirdsI think... that was a little harsh. He's actually trying, I think.
22:45.20DrodoEmpireI know AB, but he showed it before and he improved it very little
22:45.24DrodoEmpireA hate to ber harsh
22:45.26DrodoEmpire*be
22:45.37AngrybirdsI meant Hachi, your review was less so.
22:45.40HachimanTrying isn't enough in this case
22:45.49DrodoEmpireThen what is...?
22:45.51HachimanHe showed me this before and it still looks rubbish
22:45.52AngrybirdsPrimius : It's somewhat vague and simple, but a good start. If I were you, I would look at pages of real-life battles on wikipedia, or this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ABattle_of_Persephonie You really need to go into detail about what the sides' intentions, their plans, and how the plans collide. Things about the characters are good too.
22:46.04dromIf I don't give any rating, then it means that I am very harsh or busy.
22:46.05DrodoEmpireYou can only do your best Hachi; Asking any more is impossible
22:46.17HachimanNo, this isn't his best, this is outright lazy
22:46.21TekDroidHello
22:46.23HachimanHe has placed NO effort into this
22:46.25dromHey
22:46.54AngrybirdsHachiman : Perhaps this is what it would look like if YOU placed no effort into it, but some people just aren't at that level.
22:47.03DrodoEmpireAnyways, I'd just spend a lot of time making it more detailed and reviewing AB's page and real-life battles
22:47.05DrodoEmpire^
22:47.08MonetI'm confused as to how a society-wide martial law stops snipers from mass murdering.
22:47.20DrodoEmpireYou're starting to be overly harsh, Hachi
22:47.29Primius^
22:47.47HachimanNo, I'm being completely fair, he asked for a rating so I'm giving him my thoughts
22:47.56dromSince I'm a pretty harsh critic. I have to agree with Hachi.
22:48.09HachimanIt's a scrap of rubbish
22:48.30AngrybirdsYes, but you're not helping him or giving him constructive criticism.
22:48.30DrodoEmpireYes but you don;t give any advice as to improve it; In other word, its best you back off.
22:48.34HachimanGo back and rework it after reading a book or actually looking at war literature or don't bother show it again
22:48.40Hachiman*showing
22:48.51DrodoEmpireI said back off. You're not helping anymore.
22:49.47MonetYeah this has gone form firm ot cruel
22:49.50AngrybirdsIt's not worth getting upset over it, guys. xD Primius needs to know what he could do better, not that he did wrong.
22:50.01DrodoEmpire^
22:50.05AngrybirdsBecause there's nothing wrong in trying.
22:50.07HachimanI disagree, knowing what you did wrong means you can prevent it
22:50.14HachimanAnd know not to do it next time
22:50.26DrodoEmpireAnd you've made it PERFECTLY clear what he's did wrong, Hachi.
22:50.29DrodoEmpireNow stop.
22:50.32PrimiusHachiman, you're being mean
22:50.36MonetAlthough I do agree that I don't see much (if any) difference over previous sections or from what I rememebr of the page last time.
22:50.42DrodoEmpire^
22:50.49DrodoEmpirePrimus, in other words, try.
22:50.50HachimanPrimius: No, you asked for a rating, I'm giving you one
22:50.59DrodoEmpireHachi, drop it. Its over.
22:51.03Primius^
22:51.05HachimanIf you can't take criticism, don't bother asking for a review
22:51.14AngrybirdsLet's just discontinue this conversation.
22:51.16DrodoEmpireYou're beating him over the head with your opinion.
22:51.16AngrybirdsNow.
22:51.20Primius^
22:51.22Avilladox^
22:51.25DrodoEmpire^
22:51.25dromComon. Can we stop having a war on who has the sharpest thorns?
22:51.33Primiusimplodes
22:51.43Avilladoxdrom:Hopefully
22:51.45MonetThis makes me wont to write that section
22:52.29dromLet's change subject, shall we?
22:52.35Avilladox^
22:52.36Primius^
22:52.37DrodoEmpireYes, yes we should
22:52.46PrimiusDo you like cows?
22:52.47HachimanYes, lets, there's much better things to talk about
22:52.57dromWhat do you think about Facebook buying up the Oculus?
22:53.16DrodoEmpireYeah, I heard of that
22:53.29Hachimandrom: Maddening, a social network buying one of the most important pieces of virtual technology is absolutely fucking ridiculous
22:53.45TekDroidI hadn't heard of this.
22:53.54DrodoEmpireI'm not sure what I think of it so far; I'm gonna wait and see.
22:53.55AvilladoxNeither have I
22:54.00HachimanIt's bad news
22:54.12HachimanPrepare to get bombarded with shitty ads and promotions
22:54.13TekDroidI have to agree with Hachi, tbh.
22:54.15dromI already favorites this image a while ago. It's the same image I posted here serveral minutes ago.
22:54.16dromhttp://i.imgur.com/xbmzqYp.gif
22:54.21MonetHow would this affect its development or commercialisation again?
22:54.24AngrybirdsPrimius , are you seeing my PM's?
22:54.25DrodoEmpireThough personally I'm a bit taken off guard
22:55.14HachimanMonet: Easier access to private details, constant ads and promotion, and the fact that Facebook is unlikely to update it whenever it goes out of date
22:55.15DrodoEmpiredrom: Is it bad I thought it said "Its full of AIDS" the first time I read that? :P
22:55.23HachimanFacebook is notorious for leaving its products to die
22:55.42AvilladoxDrodoEmpire: A little
22:55.45GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
22:55.47dromDrodoEmpire, ads are worser with aids in FB anyway.
22:55.51dromthan*
22:55.53PrimiusBYE
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22:55.59HachimanThey'll sell it, rake in all of the money, and leave the Oculus to go stale
22:56.05HachimanNo updates or whatever
22:56.10TekDroidI got to try a brief demo a brief demo of the Oculus earlier this month.
22:56.48dromI should buy one VR before FB infests it with their disgusting grubs.
22:56.54MonetSo in other words one of the milestones in virtual reality is going to go stale and die
22:57.02HachimanYes
22:57.03MonetAnd our only hope might be Google Glass.
22:57.04TekDroidProbably.
22:57.21Avilladox<PROTECTED>
22:58.06DrodoEmpireWell I knew Facebook was used by idiots; I never knew it was run by idiots too. :P
22:58.17DrodoEmpireI guess that explains its popularity.
22:58.26dromFacebook = Cringebook
22:58.29DrodoEmpire^
22:58.29TekDroidGoogle is probably one of corporations I actually have some faith in.
22:58.34DrodoEmpire^
22:58.36HachimanWhy?
22:58.40HachimanGoogle is a media tyrant
22:58.53TekDroidIn terms of products.
22:59.07HachimanWhy the hell would you trust them to do something beneficial to YOU if it doesn't make them profit or allow them to throw ads at you
22:59.13MonetLook what they've done to YouTube
22:59.14dromGoogle is internet's GGG.
22:59.23dromEven if they goof with youtube.
22:59.25TekDroidI did say some.
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23:00.05TekDroidThey're not perfect, but there's a lot worse.
23:00.20HachimanThey're all the same; it's a big game of Monopoly
23:00.39dromHachiman: At least you can only see the ads in youtube. Not when you open your mail.
23:00.51Hachimandrom: Yet.
23:01.05dromWait for Microsoft.
23:01.07dromThey are shit.
23:01.59MonetAll Microsoft are really good for these days is an overpriced bulky American version of the Playstation and and the most widely-used OSes on thep lanet.
23:02.36HachimanMicrosoft is better than Apple in some regards
23:02.49drom"American" and "Asian" consoles...
23:02.58MonetI have the manual for my old Xbox 360 on my desk.
23:02.59dromWhen will the "European" come?
23:02.59TekDroidThe only reason I stick with Microsoft is its near universality in OS.
23:03.10AngrybirdsI also like the OS better, tbh.
23:03.21TekDroidApple is still far worse than Microsoft
23:03.22DrodoEmpire^
23:03.25drom8 < 7
23:03.32Monet208 pages...
23:04.02dromThe Windows 8 was a disappointment for me as a Win 7 user.
23:04.13DrodoEmpiredrom: really? I love it.
23:04.28HachimanIt was a struggle for me buying a computer because I didn't want to end up with shitty Windows 8
23:04.33dromStart button gone, it's harder to find the tools like paint.
23:04.34HachimanAnd I didn't want to have to pay extra costs
23:04.35TekDroidI absolutely despise Apple. I still need to have them call me so I can use the rest of my iTunes credit...
23:04.41DrodoEmpireIts fast and pretty intuitive once you get used to it; Besides, you can use desktop mode (which i use)
23:04.51dromMuch harder to find all the programs that you could easliy access in Win 7.
23:04.56TekDroidI just use desktop mode.
23:05.06WormyWe are all immersed in a virtual, emergent reality as we speak.  I see Occulus as just an extension that is perhaps a tiny bit more immersive, but to be honest, not that impressive.  The experiences rendered in virtual reality mostly come from the software, and in terms of immersion, better things have existed (though less visual quality) in the early 90's, including an online virtual headgear with a feelie suit that gave the users
23:05.10Technobliterator[23:02] <Hachiman> Microsoft is better than Apple in some regards
23:05.13Technobliteratorlol, which, exactly?
23:05.20dromOS
23:05.22HachimanTheir hardware, their OS
23:05.33HachimanThey're far more reliable than Apple for sure
23:05.35Technobliteratormicrosoft have no creativty, earn almost no profit, and have never successfully broken a market
23:05.45DrodoEmpiredrom: Desktop mode. :P And there's still the search feature in the start menu to find stuff
23:05.51Technobliteratorno, their hardware is crap (other than xbox) and their os is worse than win8
23:05.58TekDroidThey have something like 90% of the OS market share.
23:06.03MonetPCs (which Macs aren't supported on) can't have individual ahrdware components upgraded.
23:06.14TekDroidPretty much any non-apple stock laptop is on Windows
23:06.20dromI prefer their macbooks over the shitty glued bricks from Microsoft.
23:06.26WormyWin 8 looks shit on desktops.  Microsoft didn't even bother to make a proper desktop version
23:06.26MonetTechnobliterator: And the Xbox gets humiliated by the Playstation
23:06.36dromWhen you travel and work at School at lot.
23:06.49MonetXbox is overall biger, bulkier, louder and more prone ot breaking down or crashing
23:06.54Technobliteratorexactly. it didn't used to, mind you
23:06.57AngrybirdsI love the way Win 8 looks, and the Start button is back.
23:07.11Technobliteratorit used to be alright, that was one thing they had going for them, but they cocked it up
23:07.30HachimanAlso I am disappointed in Kojima because of crappy Ground Zeroes
23:07.31dromI think PS3 is bulkier than PS2
23:07.35WormyIn terms of immersion, I think google glass and devices like phones and tablets with augmented reality are interesting
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23:07.39TekDroidI really should get that 8.1 update, the only times it reminds me is when I'm on the school wi-fi.
23:08.23dromI somehow can't login in my school's network anymore with my phone.
23:08.25WormyI have 8.1 pro
23:08.32HachimanGround Zeroes itself has good gameplay, good graphics, great environments and playability, but how long do you get that? Well on a speedrun, 10 minutes
23:08.35Monetdrom: Maybe, but the 360 is still bigger than both
23:08.36AdmiralPandahi
23:08.38WormyBut of course, I need it
23:08.39DrodoEmpireI'm gonna back out of this argument entirely; Its getting (or at least was) ridiculou.
23:08.43HachimanAnd it costs $40
23:08.47DrodoEmpire*ridiculous
23:08.51dromMonet: Don't forget the first Xbox
23:09.03MonetI don't rememebr it.
23:09.18dromIt equals as a stack of 4 bricks glued together.
23:09.39dromOr even more, 6.
23:10.18MonetEksbawks Brick
23:10.35TekDroidWell that's more a side effect on technological advancement
23:11.53dromPS2 runs good, but offer more amounts of nostalgia than Xbox 360 and One offers.
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23:12.02HachimanI wonder how long it will be before Google gets it own seat in governments and law
23:12.10HachimanFacebook has already afflicted law
23:12.40dromBecause Mark Fuckerberg.
23:12.41Technobliteratormeh, I got bored
23:12.47Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Technobliterator - added a shitton to this
23:12.52Technobliterator(cba to add to my sporewiki userpage)
23:12.58HachimanA British councillor is possibly getting prosecuted for "liking" a status, with the poster accusing the councillor of harassment
23:13.14TekDroidO.o
23:13.55dromI think Twitter is going to tackle out FB.
23:14.06AdmiralPandayou have that and we have a union boss who spent $30,000 on hookers and travel
23:14.07dromIn relevance.
23:14.28WormyXbone lacks an artistic drive towards creativity and aesthetics, it is designed to be ruthlessly utilitarian.  Why?  Games are an artform, they signal novel experiences, so I'm more interested in the new stuff, but I don't see anything that new about the Xbox itself.  I'm not attacking the games on it, but as a console, it has little novelty
23:15.12WormyAugmented reality on the other is taking the world by storm
23:15.13AdmiralPandathe console is just a platform, so it doesn't need it
23:15.14MonetRyse...urgh, it's a Romophile cashin and a crappy one at that
23:15.58WormyAs a platform, tablets and phones and google glass even are far more novel than the Xbox is
23:16.06dromSteambox is going to give Sony and Microsoft a good beating, but it still have a way to go.
23:16.09HachimanRyse was a gorgeous game, don't get me wrong, but it was terrible
23:16.13WormyIn terms of how people are using them
23:16.41dromI gotta go and take a nap.
23:16.43dromSee ya folks.
23:18.04TekDroidI definitely think this generation is showing a shift towards PCs
23:18.04MonetHachiman: It was pretty. That's all I can really say about it.
23:18.19MonetBut its jsut some people put gameplay as a priority
23:19.05AdmiralPandagames should always put gameplay over looks tbh
23:19.12HachimanMonet: Did you know that MGS: Ground Zeroes can be completed in 10 minutes on a speedrun, and if you play it normally, it just has under 4 hours of gameplay, 3 hours at max
23:19.17HachimanAnd you can buy it for $40
23:19.18AdmiralPandathat's why they exist
23:19.34MonetwHachiman: Well it's Metal Gear
23:19.45HachimanIt's a shitty cash-in
23:19.50HachimanYou're paying $40 for a demo
23:19.57TechnobliteratorWHAT
23:19.59Technobliteratorare you serious?
23:20.04AdmiralPanda^
23:20.06TechnobliteratorMGSGZ is the most beautiful thing ever
23:20.07HachimanThey call it a prologue to the story, but it's a demo and everybody knows it
23:20.20Technobliteratoryeah, that's the longest, most well designed prologue I've ever seen
23:20.26MonetWhat about the Phantom Pain?
23:20.31HachimanPhantom Pain is gonna be good, everyone knows that
23:20.36AdmiralPandait ain't worth 40 bucks
23:20.52Technobliteratorof course it is
23:20.57AdmiralPanda5-10 maybe, not 40.
23:21.12AdmiralPandacapcom did the same thing at 5
23:21.13Technobliteratorthe amount of effort it took to make MGS GZ is more than 90% of games released nowadays
23:21.23HachimanDead Rising 2 released something along similar lines with 8 hours of playability for $5
23:21.34Technobliteratorfrom a technical point of view it is outstanding
23:21.39AdmiralPandathat one too
23:21.51Technobliterator"oh, I don't like it when companies make money"
23:22.12AdmiralPandatechno, 40 is a ripoff
23:22.20Technobliterator>mgs game
23:22.21Technobliterator>rip off
23:22.23Technobliteratorpick one
23:22.29HachimanIt has great gameplay and is very good looking in its aesthetic, don't get me wrong, but when a complete newbie to the MGS series can complete it in an hour and 20 minutes, it's not worth $40
23:22.44Technobliteratorit costs £30 here
23:22.44AdmiralPandaand you just proved you're fangirling
23:23.16HachimanTechnobliterator: MGR, a full, complete game cost around that much when it came out if I remember
23:23.30Technobliterator?
23:23.31HachimanA complete game with 6 hours of playability and lots of replayability to boot
23:23.36Technobliteratornormally games cost £45
23:23.41Technobliteratoror about 50
23:23.51HachimanI remember it being £30 - £40
23:23.55HachimanSomewhere in that range
23:24.02Technobliteratorprobably more on the top end of that range.
23:24.11HachimanBut nonetheless
23:24.14Technobliteratorbut MGS PP is going to have a fuckton of content
23:24.19Technobliteratorkojima said that himself
23:24.33Technobliteratorwe are basically paying for half of that to fund the development and he is giving some of it early
23:24.43HachimanOh yeah, but that's no excuse to release an incredibly short demo for $40/£30
23:25.01Hachiman"Prologue" my ass
23:25.24Technobliteratorif you want to rage at someone, rage at square enix for all the bravest
23:25.36Technobliteratorbecause GZ is hardly a ripoff
23:26.10HachimanSqueenix can suck my dick because the entire FF13 series is them taking a shit on the people who trusted it
23:26.34HachimanYou can expect Squeenix to do shit like that nowadays
23:26.41HachimanBut Kojima is very, very different
23:26.54Technobliteratoreh
23:26.59Technobliteratorthe 13 series is not that bad
23:27.07Technobliteratorembarassingly awful, sure
23:27.11Hachiman>FF13
23:27.13Hachiman>Not bad
23:27.14HachimanPick one
23:27.20Technobliteratorpicks not bad
23:27.29Technobliteratorbecause it's not that bad
23:27.43Technobliteratorjust that some parts of it are so gratingly awful that it makes it seem bad
23:27.54Technobliteratorcheck my FFwiki userpage, I went into some detail on my opinion on it
23:28.12HachimanSelling a demo at the price of a full game is just absolutely ridiculous, especially if that demo is under the average length of even a short game
23:28.24HachimanYou can complete it in 10 MINUTES
23:28.49Technobliterator10 minutes is overexaggerated anyway
23:28.51Technobliteratorit is not that shor
23:28.52Technobliteratort
23:28.57HachimanYes, it is
23:29.05HachimanSpeedrunners have done it in 10 minutes
23:29.22Technobliteratorspeedrunnesrs beat all games in ridiculously quick times
23:29.23MonetWe're talking Metal Gear, a series that is renowned for being an interactive movie
23:29.29Technobliteratorwas just about to say that
23:29.38Technobliteratorthe cutscenes add plenty more hours
23:29.45Technobliteratoranyway, time's up
23:29.46TechnobliteratorI'm off
23:30.07HachimanThe cutscenes don't add any hours to the gameplay, urgh
23:32.12DrodoEmpiretest
23:33.28MonetWhile I can understand why speedrunners could be of value for testing the minimum length of a game, I don't like the other aspects of the concept
23:33.43MonetLike the whole "I go as fast as I can to finish" mentality
23:34.03HachimanThat's not the point; playing normally, a newbie can complete it in an hour and 20 minutes
23:34.08HachimanNever mine the speedrunners
23:34.11Hachiman*mind
23:34.33HachimanThat's the length of your good-quality demo which costs $5 - $15
23:40.35Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Purgatory_Rising#Rain_Hellfire_Upon_Them new story section
23:44.57AngrybirdsMonet: Reading.
23:46.12AvilladoxSo am I
23:58.03Primiushai
23:58.23WormyMonet:  When people can craft their own laser eyes from household equipment, it is truly a sign of the cyberpunk age http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x6HDAxC0tA

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