IRC log for #sporewiki on 20101215

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17:21.53Um2k9Hello!
17:22.08XhoHi.
17:40.39Um2k9Bye!
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19:26.45IrskaadHi Xho!
19:28.17FacecatHello
19:28.23IrskaadHello.
19:32.41Eric_ClaptonLet's talk about music. Music is good, I like it. 'Nuff said.
19:35.53XhoOkay.
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19:35.59XhoRandom.
19:36.07IrskaadHello.
19:36.09Um2k9Hello!
19:36.41Eric_ClaptonHello, I'm Eric Clapton!
19:37.02Eric_ClaptonThat will be $1,000 for me saying me name.
19:37.05Eric_Clapton*my
19:37.15XhoNo thanks, Matt.
19:37.32Eric_ClaptonT_T
19:37.56Um2k9Hello...
19:38.12Eric_ClaptonHello thar
19:38.43Eric_ClaptonUm Y U NAME SHIPS AFTER ROCK BANDS?!? :P
19:39.00Um2k9Oh MM!
19:39.22Um2k9http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter
19:39.29Eric_ClaptonI know, I was joking.
19:39.53XhoOkay.
19:39.53Eric_Claptonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters
19:39.56XhoRandom.
19:40.17XhoI think that's my saying of the day.
19:40.33XhoSo, what are your thoughts on my current expansion of the Sphagarzi
19:41.05XhoI have been meaning to revive them for quite some time.
19:41.39XhoDammit.
19:41.47XhoI kill all conversations.
19:41.50Eric_ClaptonI didn't know you did anything to them.
19:41.50Um2k9I will check it out, I think OloupPlayer wants you on his blog.
19:42.01XhoI'm shutting up now. Not talking again.
19:42.25Um2k9I like the Sphagarzi1
19:42.27Um2k9*!
19:42.37Eric_ClaptonT_T
19:43.08Eric_ClaptonUm, dose the URC have a lot of censorship laws?
19:43.51Um2k9Of course not.
19:44.07Xho?
19:44.15XhoOh wait. I messaged.
19:44.21XhoF**k.
19:44.27XhoShutting up now.
19:44.31Eric_ClaptonNo
19:44.47Eric_ClaptonNothing is censored?
19:46.14Um2k9Somethings that may threating national security are.
19:47.01Eric_ClaptonI was thinking about doing a social revolution in the Doriaca Kingdom.
19:47.19XhoI feel ignored.
19:47.21Eric_ClaptonAnd I was thinking that maybe it could turn into an intergalactic movement thing.
19:47.25Eric_ClaptonSorry!
19:47.33XhoNot you, just in fiction terms.
19:47.42XhoI feel quite well forgotten.
19:48.06XhoAnd you don't want me rant about this.
19:48.09XhoWow.
19:48.10Eric_ClaptonI feel that way all the time.
19:48.15XhoThat was bad English.
19:48.20XhoNot you. Me.
19:48.48Eric_ClaptonAh
19:49.05XhoThat's the problem with Tier 0 races. No one wants them to intervene.
19:49.11Um2k9Why do you feel ignored? I am ''watching'' all your pages.
19:49.27XhoWell, no one messages me anymore.
19:50.04XhoNo one asks me questions, or wants to collaborate. I have to squeeze my way in to get by.
19:50.06Um2k9Nobody has messaged me in a while (With the exception of Dinoman82)
19:50.16Eric_ClaptonSame here.
19:50.38Eric_ClaptonIn fact, most people don't even knows who I am.
19:50.53Eric_ClaptonOne user even said I was a new user!
19:51.02XhoWell, he's an idiot, then.
19:51.10Um2k9Who was it, MM?
19:51.18XhoOr she.
19:51.26XhoMeh, I don't know user genders.
19:51.27Eric_ClaptonBNSC
19:51.36XhoLOL
19:51.39Um2k9'Nuff said.
19:51.45XhoWell that description fits well.
19:51.51Eric_ClaptonHe said "OMG, what the hell is wrong with you people?! You all say you're leaving forever, but you always comeback, why did you people even make your user accounts if you knew about the "Arguements, Perverts, etc." on your first day, huh?! "
19:52.05Um2k9lol
19:52.10Xho[Facepalm]
19:52.16Eric_ClaptonI never once in my blog said I was leaving forever! I said I was thinking about it.
19:52.24XhoSome users need to gain an IQ point. Or 20.
19:52.32Eric_Claptonlool
19:53.10Eric_ClaptonWho wants to know more about the social revolution of the Doriaca Kingdom?
19:53.17Um2k9He can be a bit... eccentric.
19:53.22Um2k9I would!
19:54.23XhoMe too.
19:54.41Eric_ClaptonWell the older population thinks the younger populatin are immoral, loud, and ignorant.
19:54.58Um2k9Much like Earth!
19:55.04XhoYep XD
19:55.56Eric_ClaptonAnd the younger population sees the older ones as annoying, over religious, bigots.
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19:56.11Wormyhi
19:56.15Eric_Claptonhi
19:56.17XhoHello,
19:56.22IrskaadWORMY!!!
19:56.28Wormyhello
19:56.38Eric_ClaptonThis is the theme song of the social revolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeJrr3HNjE
19:57.09Um2k9Hello!
19:57.34WormyHello Um
19:57.41Eric_ClaptonWormy, I bet you'll like the song I sent. It's kinda punkish.
19:58.09WormyAs a matter of fact I dio like that song
19:58.55Eric_ClaptonTheme song for the new social revolution that is going to take place in the Doriaca Kingdom.
19:59.08XhoWormulon, can you add the Shka'Tun and Sphagarzi to Tier 1? The Sphagarzi and Shka'Tun are able to use inter-universal technology as well as the Shka'Tun are beginning to find uses for Spacetime Defects (Sphagarzi are already in that zone due to them joining the Cult and possessing their own technology).
19:59.18WormySo, a revolution caused by Earth music?
19:59.33Wormy@Xho: Yes okay
19:59.45Eric_ClaptonNo
20:00.13Eric_Claptonthe older population of the Doriaca Kingdom thinks the younger populatin are immoral, loud, and ignorant. [13:54] <Um2k9> Much like Earth!
20:00.23WormyOh, it just ges with it.
20:00.24Wormygoes
20:00.28Eric_ClaptonYeah
20:01.33Eric_ClaptonI'm thinking about letting it spreed to the ULE and becoming an Intergalactic movement.
20:01.55WormyI finally ceated a page for the [[Fiction:Big Collective Consciousness]]
20:01.56morgothBotPyWormy meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Big_Collective_Consciousness
20:02.24WormyIts Tier 0, I hope no one minds :P
20:02.46XhoHoly crap, I just thought of something.
20:02.56Eric_Claptonwhat?
20:02.56IrskaadWhat?
20:02.57WormyStill, its rather different and doesn't exist yet or might not ever exist yet in this timeline
20:03.18XhoIf the Xhodocto are >Type V now, what would they be by the Legacy era? O___o
20:03.28WormyIt depends on how realities wavefunction is collapsed by the observer
20:03.39WormyThey might be timeless
20:03.57WormyExisting in all moments, in all pints of time and space
20:04.01Eric_ClaptonType ∞
20:04.22XhoRawr. Probably.
20:04.59Eric_ClaptonGawr
20:06.12Eric_ClaptonI need to make the IFA page -_-
20:06.14XhoHmm...does that mean I have to tone them down a very slight amount or raiser their Type? Because of the 'Time doesn't affect them thing'.
20:06.56XhoYou know, if the Taldar edited time around the Xhodocto, they'd just stay in that position...
20:07.06XhoDamn.
20:07.13XhoXhodocto are broken O__o
20:07.31IrskaadPoor Angazhar... *Avexia pets him*
20:07.37XhoWell
20:07.45XhoNot broken in that sense as being 'broken'
20:07.56XhoI mean overpowered broken.
20:08.01IrskaadWhy?
20:08.14XhoBecause they're 99.9% Invincible.
20:08.31XhoThat 0.1% is Verezuon/Kroc.
20:08.34IrskaadIt's normal, they're Tier 0.
20:08.44XhoNot really.
20:08.59IrskaadWormy: If Lezia pet Kroc, what would happen?
20:09.12IrskaadXho: Why?
20:09.14XhoKroc belongs to Valader.
20:09.19XhoUh..
20:09.22WormyMaster Kroc would be disrespected and probably kill her
20:09.29IrskaadI thought Kroc was Wormy's fiction.
20:09.37WormyNo, its The Valaders!
20:09.43Eric_ClaptonXho: I think this whould the theme of Angazhar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PqD6CF7nU
20:09.46WormyYou mean Kilnok?
20:09.47XhoHave you seen the Taldar or Ravenrii, or even the Verezaph express any immunity to the Xhodocto?
20:10.25IrskaadAll this time I thought Kroc was a Grimbolsaurian.
20:10.31XhoLOL WTF
20:10.36XhoKroc's a Civatron.
20:10.43XhoDamn, you need to read Val's fic more.
20:10.53IrskaadI know. =P
20:10.58WormyI know, I am wondering whether all pints in spacetime makes them sound even more advanced
20:11.12Wormyall pints, lucky them!  I mean all pints
20:11.22XhoXD
20:11.24WormyFAIL points
20:11.25XhoDouble fail.
20:11.37WormyStill, I bet they do get all pints lol
20:11.49Eric_ClaptonUntra fail
20:12.19WormyAll the pints in the universe!
20:12.29XhoWait. With the ability to stay in the same point of time with time moving around them, that would mean spacetime is a physical concept to them.
20:12.33XhoFUUUUUU...
20:13.07WormyNo all points in spacetime at once
20:13.13XhoThat too.
20:13.20XhoDouble FUUUUUUU....
20:13.20WormyOr they exist in Timelessness
20:13.26XhoO__o
20:13.30XhoDon't make me say it.
20:13.51WormyI mean, they progress in theor own time, but to other quantum observers - us, they exist in all points that is best percievable
20:14.08XhoYep.
20:14.23WormyRemember, observation collapses reality, if they are very powerful observers, well.
20:14.32XhoYep.
20:15.02WormyI know that sounds mad, but in Quantum Mechanics and experiments, with weird afffect of observation is true...   Really odd stuff.
20:15.03IrskaadAre the Xhoddies currently observing Lezia sleeping then?
20:15.18XhoNot like that.
20:15.36XhoThey look at the universe as something they can manipulate (in some sense)
20:15.44Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse Wavefunction
20:15.47IrskaadWoah.
20:16.53XhoYep.
20:16.59WormyIts scary almost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GTCus7KTb0
20:17.48Eric_Claptonsergeant pepper's lonely hearts club band should be Tire 0
20:17.49XhoIt's wierd. The Xhodocto would observe the universe like a computer.
20:17.59XhoOr a very simple one.
20:18.13WormyShrodinger's Cat, is the cat alive or dead before opening the box?  In fact, is is, isn't, and is both alive and dead at the same time until observed.
20:19.17WormyWell, some scientists say we shortened the expected lifetime of the universe when we observed its gravitational constant..
20:19.43Eric_ClaptonAn Xhodocto vs John Lennon.
20:20.15Xho:S Good luck Xhodocto.
20:20.23Eric_ClaptonYeah
20:20.34IrskaadXhodocto would 100% obviously win.
20:20.41Eric_ClaptonHe would destroy the Xhodocto with love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llrAemrsKG0&feature=related
20:21.18WormyOr by observing, if he is lucky, the Xhodocr randomely died (at least in physical form)
20:21.40WormyLuckier than the lifetime of the universe though
20:21.44XhoWhat would be your response that Xhodocto are Energy Beings in a 'shell'?
20:22.29IrskaadHow do tiny tiny humans alter the lifetime of the Universe? It's impossible. =P
20:22.51XhoNothing is impossible. Well, some things are.
20:22.52Eric_ClaptonNever say impossible
20:23.20Eric_ClaptonPeople said 'dem flyin' machines' would never work.
20:23.26IrskaadImpossible
20:23.30XhoThe only impossible thing I can think of at the moment is a good Government.
20:23.33IrskaadI said it.
20:23.48Wormy@Irsk: Its not really humans, its that for some reason, the existence of an observer can collapse a state.
20:24.29Eric_ClaptonNorth Korea is good. They have good civil rights.
20:24.36XhoSure..
20:24.40WormyWe have noticed that light is both a particles and a wave.  By observation, it can be collapsed into either (this is proven quantum affect), many say there is a wavefunction to everything, even you.
20:25.05XhoIs it true that light is essentially invisible?
20:25.58WormySo there are versions of me in many alternative universes exiting as a wave.  No, photons can be slowed down, they can be cancelled out by each other or the energy ca be converted
20:26.09Eric_ClaptonWhere is teh Um?
20:26.10WormyBut nothing can be destroyed really, only changed
20:26.16WormyHe left us!
20:26.33Eric_ClaptonD:
20:27.00WormyIf the Xhodocto can truly destroy information (matter and energy), well, that is very powerful indeed.
20:27.20Xho...
20:27.22WormyBut no knpown thing can do that.  So there's an idea
20:27.32XhoI'm not saying anything.
20:28.03WormyThe BCC can lift it off a universe, but that is only placing it in another dimension.
20:28.03XhoPerhaps they will do that through example...
20:28.33XhoSo, what would a scientific theory for essence be?
20:28.44WormyI have no idea!
20:29.51WormyScience is based on what we can sense and quantify.  Things that can't bew explained by scientific measurement are in another real of philospgy entirely.
20:30.19WormyIt is in my view "Essence" is one of those things.
20:30.19XhoIt's funny. The users love science and I am here all by myself with my knowledge of the meta-physical world.
20:30.19Eric_ClaptonWormy, how close do you think the ULE are to become Tire 2?
20:30.31Wormy@Xho: Well, I believe in chi, remember?
20:30.45XhoWell, i'm not alone, then.
20:30.52Wormy@Eric: I don't know, let me think abou that
20:31.10XhoYou know who Eric is, right?
20:31.16WormyI've experienced chi in real ofe I practise most days.  Its there.
20:31.21WormyIs it Matt?
20:31.25XhoYeah.
20:31.39IrskaadWhat is chi?
20:31.53Wormyfacepalm  :P
20:32.00WormyI alws go on about it
20:32.21Derp_Herphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_M
20:32.29IrskaadBut I never got what it actually was.
20:32.46XhoIt's basically meta-physical concepts explaining energy.
20:32.47WormyI don't know what it is, I only know its there
20:32.51Wormyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfy2Tn52sxU
20:32.55WormySee that vid
20:32.59WormyChi in action
20:33.08XhoNot the best definition.
20:33.24WormyIt depends on vciewpoit
20:33.47WormyThe power the Shaolin Monks have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI&feature=related
20:33.58XhoExactly. I love meta-physics, unlike science your mind is open to possibility.
20:34.06WormyYou know elemental energy I made is chi/prana
20:34.23Derp_HerpOne time someone tried to do something with me with chi.
20:34.59Wormy@Xho: Well, then there is theoretical physics.  The observation collapsss reality and multiver theories are very open
20:35.17WormyAlmost bordering on the metaphysical
20:35.53WormyI believe in Yin Yang too, during meditation i takes over my body physically
20:36.17Derp_Herpthose cherries are misleading. They killed us
20:37.17Xhothere are many videos of shaolin monks having their asses handed to them by mma, ufc, muay thai, brazilian jiu jitsu and sambo fighters. and your analysis of their abilities to break rocks automatically meaning that they would "destroy the internal organs" is ridiculous. these gimmicks are simply physics, leverage, and the fact that stone is brittle that renders it susceptible to shattering. this is simple science. human flesh is a
20:37.20XhoA user comment.
20:37.34XhoWhat's your opinion?
20:37.49WormyMaster Zhou can put red hot metal in his mouth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1LatEdDh0
20:38.06WormyI think its a sceptics opiniion, just one of many, no more valid
20:38.55WormyMartial arts are only as good as their practinioner
20:39.10WormyNo martial art is superior to either.
20:39.20Derp_HerpIn all due respect Wormy, this stuff seems like all the things a common magician or illusionist can do.
20:39.33Derp_Herpwell, not common
20:39.43IrskaadI personally believe chi is electrical energy.
20:39.52WormyWell, I am no illustionist.  I tried myself, that is what one should before making judgmement
20:40.24XhoOkay, not getting into this,
20:40.52Derp_HerpSame
20:41.01Derp_Herpdshban http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNvpfDsurHs&feature=recentu
20:41.55Wormyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggycKA_HN3k In Dim Mak, there is the dath touch.  The presenter is punched and describes a feeling ulike that sceptical comment
20:42.03Wormyunlike
20:43.11Derp_HerpWhen they say you can duck, you can duck.
20:43.48Derp_HerpDammit, you know how I feel about talking about the supernatural.
20:43.50WormyChi exploded in my hands once, that hurt.
20:44.00XhoHmm...68 subs.
20:44.10Derp_HerpYAY!
20:44.21WormyI sound like a madm,en, now, I will shut up :/
20:45.04WormyHopw is the video coming along?
20:45.09WormyHow
20:45.12XhoI'm interested. It's just that its a little hard to grasp.
20:45.15XhoOH SHI_
20:45.19XhoThe video.
20:45.27XhoI'll need to continue.
20:45.28*** join/#sporewiki Um2k9 (6d4ec1eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.78.193.235)
20:45.50Derp_HerpUM Y U LEAVE US?!?
20:46.08IrskaadY and U are letters, not words. =P
20:46.19Xho-_-
20:46.35Um2k9I lost connection because of the snow.
20:46.40XhoTell you what, I will restart the video. It looked kinda noobish.
20:46.42XhoSnow!?
20:46.48XhoStill?!
20:46.56Derp_Herphttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l92kr6IUjt1qdhmifo1_500.jpg
20:47.02Derp_HerpI hate snow
20:47.06Derp_Herpwhat video?
20:47.14Um2k9A little bit, but it looks like it will be a white christmas.
20:47.51WormyNo, I mean your documentary on the Xhodies, how is it going?
20:48.01XhoYeah. That was the result.
20:48.15XhoIt was just pics with captions.
20:48.25XhoI need more vid clips.
20:48.41WormyBut with music, it gets brought to life!  WMV supports vids as well.
20:49.00XhoI will have to do it over the holidays. Getting far too bogged down right now.
20:49.04XhoThe weekend might work.
20:49.09WormyMy vids are mosty silent, like something out of the 20's
20:49.13XhoOr Friday.
20:49.26WormyMy holiday starts then :D
20:49.41XhoSame.
20:49.45XhoOH CRAP
20:49.53IrskaadWhat?
20:50.13XhoI just realised my birthday's on Tuesday and I haven't done anything for SporeWiki for that date...
20:50.20Xho...Oh. I am doing something.
20:50.24XhoJust remembered.
20:50.46IrskaadOn Tuesday I will offer an Asgord for you to torture.
20:50.55XhoMan, I remember the speculation I brought last year.
20:51.16XhoNow its more like "OMG SPORE ALIENS ARE SO SMEXY"
20:51.18IrskaadWhat speculation?
20:51.20Xho...-_-'
20:51.47XhoWell, last year the Xhodocto were increasingly speculated for the end of the Tigris War.
20:51.55IrskaadWhy?
20:52.10Derp_HerpDid you get that from me, Xho?
20:52.17XhoMore or less.
20:52.33XhoYou and I share a lot with SporeWiki hatred.
20:52.39XhoOf behaviour.
20:52.42XhoAnyway.
20:52.44Derp_HerpYeah
20:53.17XhoThe Xhodocto, at that point were only fanatical 'aliens'.
20:53.27Derp_HerpFly like an eagle
20:53.31IrskaadWoah.
20:53.34XhoThe idea that a god being unleashed was like WTF
20:53.39WormyI remember when the DCP argued about Kamik'Shi with the Xhodocto, I thought Kamik'Shi was Kamik'Ship or something, and I tried to tell the Xhodies they spelt their gods name wrong hah
20:53.47XhoLOL
20:54.12Derp_HerpI misread Kamik'Shi  as Kamik'Shit one time
20:54.17XhoSo, Kamik'Shi at that point was the only proper god on the wiki (Spode was as controversial as it is now)
20:54.18XhoLOL
20:54.47XhoYou could imagine the speculation a real god would bring.
20:55.00XhoNow, its gods here and there. Makes the Xhodocto dull.
20:55.16WormyLol
20:55.22IrskaadSomeone should wipe out the unnecessary gods. Eko could help with that,
20:55.23Irskaad.
20:55.24XhoHones
20:55.29XhoWTF
20:55.39XhoDidn't even press enter.
20:55.47WormyAs I said, the DCP is going to hunt a god down and capture one
20:55.57Derp_HerpI just added the gods of the Doriaca Kingdom to give them more details.
20:56.06XhoA 'Tier <0' god?
20:56.07IrskaadCan a Tahar join in capturing a god?
20:56.17XhoSo, like a weak god?
20:56.27XhoOr like an AI god?
20:56.28Derp_HerpNot really
20:56.38WormyA weak god
20:56.49WormyYeah, they can
20:57.05Derp_HerpA Tire <0 god but they have little to do with anything other then the Doriaca.
20:57.15IrskaadYay. Evkos can assist in studying the god.
20:57.47IrskaadTire 2 Vehicles are Bikes. Tire 4 Vehicles are automobiles. =P
20:58.07Um2k9The Rambo still have automobiles!
20:58.27WormyThe DCP couldn't take onTier 0 god civilaztions with Xeelee power, or Q-like beings, or high gods like Kamik or The Unseen Entity, but the DCP might be able take on those weaker gods
20:58.41WormyYeah, well, the DCP still use oil
20:59.02Derp_HerpThe ULE use anything of use.
20:59.07WormyThey eat up everything, even cheapo stuff like oil
20:59.12XhoI know what we should do as a whole community. STOP USING THE XHODOCTO AS PRIME EXAMPLE OF OMNIPOTENCE.
20:59.30WormyI use the Xeelee
20:59.34IrskaadThen let's use the Verezaph.
20:59.45Derp_HerpYour omipotence, have mercy.
20:59.50Xho...
21:00.01XhoI HAVE NO MERCY UPON USELESS MORTALS.
21:00.05XhoAnyway.
21:00.24WormyThe AntiXeelee are god god-like.  So are the Downstreamers, they destroyed rality, recreated it for some reason
21:00.38IrskaadHow?
21:00.44XhoWhat? Technologically or Xhodoctologically?
21:00.55XhoOoh. New term.
21:01.15XhoXhodoctology.
21:01.21WormyTechnologically from the higher dimensions see http://forums.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=155834
21:01.35WormyStephen Baxter Agai!
21:01.35IrskaadOne day Tyrekians will get Xhodoctology, but that's in a million years.
21:01.56XhoI mean Xhodoctology as in studying the Xhodocto.
21:02.02XhoThere should be a page on that :P
21:02.18XhoIt could bring theories of the Xhodocto's technology.
21:02.23Wormytology is to study
21:02.42XhoAnd being as a whole.
21:03.21Derp_HerpXho, read my newish blog http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:MatthewMosley/Return_of_the_Void
21:03.46XhoYou showed me that.
21:03.56WormyStephen Baxter made the Xeelee, Downstreamers and First Born who  scourge the universe so it lives longer.  SB and Xho have very similr fiction in some ways!
21:04.11Derp_HerpOh, I did?
21:04.28XhoI...AM STEPHEN BAXTER! BWAHAAHAHAH!
21:04.31XhoNah.
21:04.34XhoJust kidding.
21:05.18Wormylol, I was about to tell you to hurry up with your latest book, the Science of Avatar, I was annoyed to find it was postponed for 2012
21:05.21XhoDo you think there should be a page on Tier 0 Technology Theories?
21:05.34Derp_HerpWormy, what tier level do you think the Void Order will most likly be?
21:05.41Um2k9Did anyone ever see the movie, 2012?
21:05.44WormyYes, something similar to my Tier Instruction manual
21:05.53WormyNo, I haven't
21:05.55IrskaadTyrekians vs Vartekians, who would win?
21:06.06WormyI dont know enough about them!
21:06.15XhoOkay. I'll make a blog on it.
21:06.21Wormycool.
21:06.26Derp_HerpRight.
21:06.37XhoHere's hoping someone cannot find peversion in transdimensional technology.
21:06.42IrskaadLol.
21:06.51WormyI'll wait until I see the fiction in action.
21:06.57Um2k9If an empire has more systems then the Milky way has stars, what tier would they be?
21:06.58IrskaadWhat fiction?=
21:07.16WormyOver 400 billion suns?  SHIIII
21:07.39Um2k9http://universeatwar.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hierarchy TTTTTT
21:07.40Derp_HerpSeeing how they was able to take out the old Doriaca Kingdom that was mid tier 1.
21:07.44WormyTioer 0 probably, imagine all that energy to use?
21:07.45XhoLol, I was about to quote Xhodocto, but hey.
21:08.08IrskaadI have just begun to notice the Kraw Galaxy is really small. [[Fiction:Kraw Galaxy]]
21:08.09morgothBotPyIrskaad meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kraw_Galaxy
21:08.31Xho17,500 Galaxies + 1 Meta-Physical Dimension. Oh yeah.
21:08.52XhoMind you, 17,499 of them don't exist in this region.
21:09.21WormyThe Xeelee used entire galaxy clusters as their great constructs
21:09.26Derp_HerpAnd the old Doriaca Kingdom controled half of the Milky way
21:09.43WormyI imagine their star count is huge, but they probably moved beyond the use of stars
21:10.10Derp_HerpIt was
21:10.25WormyI meant the Xeelee lol
21:10.38Derp_HerpWell, it was more like influence over the systems.
21:10.38WormyThey are spacetime beings
21:10.41Derp_HerpOh, lol
21:10.45Wormyyeah
21:11.40Derp_HerpWould the Old Doriaca Kingdom be able to wage war aginst the Xeelee?
21:11.45Wormyhttp://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Xeelee+Sequence That is one epic series of books, I wasn;t a great novel reader until that
21:12.32Wormyhttp://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Civilization+Profile+-+The+Xeelee Xeelee themselves
21:13.58Wormyno
21:14.05IrskaadWhat does a Xeelee look like?
21:14.48WormyNo one on sporewiki can., except xhodocto, and even Xho said either destroying each is like catching smoke, basically they would leave each other alone
21:15.18Derp_HerpI agree.
21:15.28Wormythe best you'll ever see a xeelee is by looking at the nightfighter on the book
21:15.52Derp_HerpI always seen them as being bird like creatures.
21:16.00IrskaadWhat would a Xeelee do against a fleet heading to destroy their Homeplanet?
21:16.03WormyThey would destroy the DCP without notice in the same way you step on blogs without notice
21:16.18Wormythey don't have a home planet lol
21:16.32Wormyfar beyond that
21:16.38Derp_HerpDCP vs Old Doriaca Kingdom?
21:16.41IrskaadOk, but what can they do against a 10000 ship fleet?
21:17.08Derp_HerpThey would lol
21:17.14WormyThwt would n't care
21:17.45IrskaadBut what if the fleet wanted to destroy them?
21:18.03Derp_HerpThey would still lol
21:18.08Um2k9They would fail.
21:18.13WormyYou see, the xeelee live in their own timeloop.  and they cant be hurt by silly little ship weapons
21:18.35IrskaadWhat weapons do they have?
21:18.37Wormytheir nightfighter can survive impact of of a magnetar
21:18.46Um2k9You asked the same question to Random about the Q. Tier 0 civilizations are beyond annihilation.
21:19.01IrskaadBut I know about the Xhodocto at least.
21:19.03Derp_HerpThey would say something like "Your out of your league, son."
21:19.12Wormythe only known tech of the xeelee is their mere tricnkets, all other civs have no comprehension on how it works ts so advanced
21:19.45Wormythese trinkets, include tech way out of anyones leage
21:20.01IrskaadWhat does it do?
21:20.14Wormythe star breaker, is the size of a pistol and can blow stars in a single shot
21:20.28Wormybut the xeelee can pull an entire universe through the ring
21:20.34IrskaadSounds like what a Xhodocto has.
21:20.39IrskaadHow?
21:21.08Wormyhttp://www.orbitalvector.com/Megastructures/XEELEE%20RING.htm bolders ring
21:21.30Wormyas seen in the book, named the ring http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(Stephen_Baxter_novel)
21:22.38IrskaadHow can an empire "Throw Galaxies" at something?
21:23.06WormyI imgine that they percieve time differntly, galaxies might appear to be quickly moving to them
21:23.15Wormygravitational manipulation
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21:23.21Derp_HerpUm!
21:23.30Um2k9_I lost connection again.
21:23.36Derp_HerpD:
21:23.38WormyIn fact, the Ring is a real phenomenon (without the ring
21:24.00Derp_HerpI'm going to epic music 101 for a sec them I'm going to work on things in spore for ficton!
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21:24.21WormyIts called dark flow, and structures beyond the universe really are tugging on entire galaxy clusters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_flow
21:24.23The_RandomnessBonk.
21:24.44WormyHello Random
21:24.54Um2k9_Hello Randomness!
21:24.58WormyWe are discussing Tier 0 csvs
21:25.04WormyEspecially the Xeelee
21:25.34The_RandomnessI personally prefer the Q Continuum.
21:25.40WormyI love how Stephen Baxter uses real science
21:25.50Um2k9_Still here.
21:25.51WormySuch as Dark Flow, for his fiction
21:26.57The_RandomnessWormulon, have you looked any more at the frustule stuff I pointed out to you?
21:27.09WormyThere ias more info about the Xeelee, Pwho I prefer (even if Q seem to be even greater)
21:27.32WormyTF2 vids?
21:27.53WormyI haven't watched any lately no
21:28.09The_RandomnessNo, when I left something on your talk page.
21:28.45The_Randomnesshttp://www.wikipedia.com/Frustule
21:28.50The_RandomnessOr something.
21:30.50WormyOh, those little organisms, I haven't had a chance
21:32.42The_RandomnessSimply, the frustules and how they're formed seems to solve the problem as to how Salsetthe bones stay together.
21:33.57WormyOkay., I'll read another time!
21:34.33The_RandomnessAnyway, what shall we briefly discuss?
21:35.22WormyHave you seen my latest blog on the wiki?
21:35.30The_RandomnessYes.
21:35.45The_RandomnessIt's about time you made something like that.
21:35.52Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Wormulon/SporeWiki_-_A_serious_matter
21:36.21WormyI think the admins should take more action from now on, and users should better intruct the newwo nes
21:36.24WormyIt used to happen
21:36.39The_RandomnessI think we need new admins.
21:36.44WormyBut this year, there was only a couple of active admins
21:37.15WormyWell, Oluapplayer and TimeMaster have become active again
21:37.24WormySo things might improve.
21:38.10The_RandomnessI haven't seen TimeMaster go on any taxon raids recently.
21:38.30Um2k9A greater sense of authority should deter arguments.
21:38.55The_RandomnessI do think we need a few more admins though.
21:39.20Um2k9I think we should wait until the wiki is busier.
21:40.06Um2k9Especally considering we now have four active admins.
21:40.07The_RandomnessWe need to be a lot more strict too.
21:40.14Um2k9Especially.
21:40.16WormyIndeed
21:40.20The_RandomnessFour?
21:40.32Um2k9TM, Ose, Wormy and OP.
21:40.43WormyLast year, we had 5 admins,
21:40.56The_RandomnessOse is barely active.
21:40.57WormyMorgoth, Ose, TM, OP and me
21:41.07Um2k9He is on IRC now.
21:41.13Um2k9Ose that is.
21:41.19WormyWith 5, things were running quite normally, it was only me this year really
21:41.24The_RandomnessI know that.
21:41.32WormyI'm a BAD admin
21:41.47Um2k9No you aren't. What makes you say that?
21:41.51WormyI le the wiki goi into ruin, still I was only one
21:42.01Um2k9You are a rare good admin.
21:42.02The_RandomnessUnfortunately, I must agree.
21:42.12Um2k9So are the other SW admins.
21:42.26Um2k9With what?
21:42.39The_RandomnessYou're too lenient when it comes to everything.
21:43.01The_RandomnessYou're more of a moderator of a forum than an actual admin.
21:43.08Wormy@Random: Well, remember, I was only one active.  And there was a huge influx of users
21:43.32WormyI tried to make more but I dont have that ability
21:43.57The_RandomnessN00bs is a better way to describe most of the new users we've been getting.
21:44.02Um2k9I don't think so. I think Wormulon is doing a great job, especially for one under so much pressure, with being the only admin and starting college.
21:44.14WormyThey have little instruction, thos only one admin.
21:44.32Um2k9Who do you think would be a good admin then Random?
21:44.55WormyRemember, lat year, admins would keep the general disiplin.  I can't do that alone.  Its not the new users fault either.
21:45.15The_RandomnessMe, Techno now that she's improved, you (Um2k9), I'm not sure who else.
21:45.33WormyGhelae and the valader would be skilled enough
21:45.49The_RandomnessOops, I forgot those two.
21:45.59Wormynot sure if the valader has enough activity
21:46.07Um2k9Seriously, I think the Valader is a great choice.
21:46.39The_RandomnessI haven't seen The Valader being very active recently
21:47.02Um2k9And obviously I don't think Techno would be a good choice, but I am avoiding that subject from now on.
21:47.15The_RandomnessGhelæ would be a good admin.
21:47.22Um2k9And I don't think Ghelae wants to be one.
21:47.33Um2k9He isn't on the request page.
21:47.45The_RandomnessTechno has improved a lot recently, but I respect your opinion.
21:48.09The_RandomnessI do remember when she was a bit explosive.
21:48.57Um2k9She was explosive a few days ago.
21:49.17The_RandomnessReally? Where?
21:49.44Um2k9She asked Wormulon to delete the blog.
21:50.44The_RandomnessI wonder what I'd be like if I became an admin.
21:50.55WormyAnyone noticed the Sporepedia has become just as bad?
21:50.58The_RandomnessRequesting a delete is hardly explosive.
21:51.25Um2k9It was the content on the blog she wanted deleted.
21:51.25The_RandomnessYes, the Spore community has become a bit turbulent lately.
21:51.33WormyEveryone is taing sides there, downrating, attacking users lol, its all for the MPN really.
21:51.57WormyI'm more interested in creating that getting on a list.
21:52.03Um2k9I have noticed people have started to steal my creations without credit.
21:52.21WormyAnd its easy peasy to get blocked with litte reason, as we see with R1208
21:52.30WormyGate94?
21:52.44WormyHe has stolen all my best ones and never gave me credit.
21:52.54Um2k9No, random people.
21:53.02Um2k9Different all the time.
21:53.03WormyAnd other Sporewikikians.  Lookclosely at his stuff
21:53.12Um2k9Is it against the rules?
21:53.13The_RandomnessThat has happened to me a couple times, but they generally get absolutely no attention.
21:53.28WormyI don't really care about it that much.
21:53.48The_RandomnessDownraters are funny.
21:54.05The_RandomnessThey're mostly harmless.
21:54.27WormyI don't care about them  See, here Gate84 http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Gate84|500528798960
21:54.59WormyI don't think its malicious through,at least he told me he was trying to make them
21:55.15The_RandomnessI'll be right back, I'm going to try and find something.
21:55.34WormyBut still, I might ask hi to give credits to the original creators from now on.
21:55.50WormyHe might not have considered it, that is all
21:56.05Um2k9He seems to have reconstructed your creations and passed them as his own.
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21:56.40WormyAnd some of yours, and Ghelaes, and Xho's
21:57.02Wormyhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Gate84%7C500528798960%3Asast-500687863376%3Apg-20 Here is yours
21:57.23WormyIf they get on MPN I will go mad
21:57.38WormyBut they are not good recreations of mine, so...
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21:59.15The_RandomnessI found it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZwPQad5ohc
21:59.28WormyHe also told me he wanted to destroy the Jarzo, I said he couldn't in my fiction.
21:59.43The_RandomnessWho?
22:01.04WormyGate84, he is stealing creations of SporeWikians and passing them off as his own
22:01.21The_RandomnessOh.
22:01.29WormyLook at is last 40 creates or so
22:01.50Um2k9I sent him a message on my Genesis recreating.
22:01.55Um2k9Recreation.
22:02.21The_RandomnessI would if I wasn't on my iPod Touch.
22:03.33WormyWhen I edit creations I always mention the original creator.  I don't I've ever recreated something like Gate84 has
22:03.50The_RandomnessSame here.
22:04.00Um2k9Same here.
22:04.20WormyActually, some of my oldest creations were edited, but I didn't mean to steal anything, I just wanted to keep it in my game and not lose it.
22:04.36WormyI don't do that anymore
22:05.08Um2k9http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-moranosaurus%7C500302488262%3Asast-500687799234 What do you think of my Luxury liner?
22:05.39WormyNice, very streamlined!
22:06.11Wormyhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Gate84%7C500528798960%3Asast-500687852422%3Apg-20 Gate84 plans to attack the URC!
22:06.21WormyWith a stolen Xhodocto creation!
22:06.46Um2k9facepalm.
22:07.05Um2k9http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Luxury_liner Its based on this ship from BSG
22:07.34WormyWell recreated.
22:07.55Um2k9Thank you
22:08.13Um2k92100 AU Long!
22:08.33Um2k9Realistic for a nation with 25000 members...
22:08.55The_RandomnessLOL, 2100 AU in diameter.
22:09.20OseWormy: if we need more admins, then we (the current active ones) need to get together to discuss it (here)
22:09.45The_RandomnessThat's a good idea.
22:09.54WormyYes, that is.
22:10.06Um2k9Indeed. Has anyone ever tried the new feature on Google maps?
22:10.16Um2k9It is unnerving.
22:10.22The_Randomnessnope.avi
22:10.45WormyYou mean street view?  I like it!
22:11.31Um2k9Me too! If used in the right hands that is. I am not really comfortable with people being able to see my house!
22:11.44WormyOr into gardens
22:12.24WormyStill, if a thief wants to go into a house they would go and look anyway, and google street is usually dones months ago.  I saw the google van go down my street
22:12.53Um2k9Me too!
22:13.09OseI suggest we implement stricter rules and more admin power, perhaps we could draft the rules for wiki martial law?
22:13.10Ose22 hours ago by ArchemporerRamis
22:13.13Um2k9Its amazing how quickly they did it.
22:13.13Ose~facepalm
22:13.14infobotACTION facepalms at the situation
22:13.48Um2k9I am glad you disagree with that!
22:13.56The_RandomnessMartial law on the internets doesn't work.
22:14.31Um2k9It would probably cause mass leavings.
22:15.24WormyYes, the wiki could get too strict
22:15.53Oseanyhoo, i'm off. I have my last big test of the year friday, after that I might get a change to edit the wiki a bit more. Wormy, would you try to see if you can get the other active admins on IRC. then we can set a time for a little meeting to discuss adding new admins
22:16.00The_RandomnessHowever, we're not strict enough and we don't have enough active admins.
22:16.22WormyOkay, I will arrange something soon!
22:16.38Osebye
22:16.44Um2k9Good luck.
22:17.11WormyThat would be TimEmaster, OP, me and Ose I guess then
22:17.34Um2k9I propose you create a new channel.
22:17.44WormyHow do I do that?
22:17.44Um2k9And I just made nice with Techno.
22:17.47The_RandomnessI think you should do that <s>now</s> nao.
22:18.23The_RandomnessThis channel is fine when it's empty, which it usually is.
22:18.29Um2k9I think you just type in something like ''#name''
22:18.39Um2k9Irskaad is usually here.
22:18.55Um2k9Plus, there is archives which users can visit.
22:19.08The_RandomnessYeah, but he/she is usually AFK.
22:19.13Um2k9http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/
22:20.08The_RandomnessHow many users even know of that to begin with?
22:20.43Um2k9I do, I think MM does also.
22:20.50WormyOr bother to read them all.
22:20.52WormyI did
22:21.28Um2k9Me too. The majority of days it was nothing but Ose.
22:21.58WormyWell, me and Techno went on to discuss Loron DCP war earlier this year, Ose was urprised to see us.
22:22.22Um2k9I came in August.
22:22.43The_RandomnessWhat about me?
22:24.07The_RandomnessI'm thinking around September.
22:24.59WormyI thought infobot was real when I first came on.
22:25.21WormyIt really confused me, then I looked it up.
22:25.27The_RandomnessLol
22:25.44The_Randomness~spy
22:25.44infobotLAN Protocol Analyzer. URL: http://pweb.de.uu.net/trillian.of/Spy/.  NOT EVEN A REAL CLASS
22:26.14Wormy~infobot who are you?
22:26.15infobotWormy: what are you talking about?
22:26.28Wormy~you
22:26.28infoboti heard infobot is in need of training, can someone train me?
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22:26.37The_Randomness~hax
22:26.38infobotrumour has it, hax is cool! he gives me scooby snacks and botsex!
22:26.43Um2k9_Sorry, I just came back to say bye!
22:26.49Wormybye!
22:27.03WormyI must be going as well.
22:27.12Wormycya!
22:27.15The_RandomnessBye.
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