IRC log for #sporewiki on 20081007

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02:52.12rascilonhello
02:52.16Martin__boo
02:52.26rascilonHow are you doing tonight Martin?
02:53.05SignpostMarvhrm. seems I got renamed while I was afk
02:53.08rascilonNew alias?
02:53.16rascilonAre you one of the admins?
02:53.20SignpostMarvyep
02:53.22SignpostMarvwhatsup ?
02:53.29rascilonHave you had a chance to look over my updates?
02:53.48rascilonI have added probably 100+ pictures to spore wiki in the last 3 days
02:54.45SignpostMarvPNG be nicer :-P
02:55.38rascilonI'm just thinking of older browsers and compression.
02:55.52rascilonTrying to keep the file size low and the quality as high as possible
02:56.42SignpostMarvIE only has a problem with alpha transparency
02:56.56rascilonI talked to another of the admins the other day about image standards and never heard back
02:57.05rascilonSo I used JPG to be on the safe side
02:57.27SignpostMarvhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Image_Guidelines
02:57.43SignpostMarvspecifically, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Image_Guidelines#Icons.2FBadges.2FAchievements
02:58.42rascilonOk but your statement contradicts the standards you just linked.
02:58.44rascilonUnless you have found that a particular screenshot compresses better using PNG when compared to a full quality JPEG (it has been known to happen), screenshots should be made available using the JPEG format.
02:58.56SignpostMarvthats an icon
02:59.04SignpostMarveep
02:59.09SignpostMarvi'm looking at an icon :-P
02:59.28rascilonOk gotcha.
02:59.41rascilonSo for small stuff like icons you prefer I use png?
02:59.48rascilonThat's doable np.
03:00.02SignpostMarvor SVG, if you have the time
03:01.11SignpostMarvit's a pain in the ass to do the transposing,
03:01.13rascilonYeah I think I can do that.  Im using an older version of photoshop so I'll have to check
03:01.32rascilonWhat do you think of the graphic addition on a page like this?  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Rare_Jewels
03:01.32SignpostMarvbut in some cases there are a lot of icons that would get substantially higher quality
03:02.04rascilonKeep in mind ALL of the graphics on ALL of the rare pages are made by me in the last 72 hours
03:02.14SignpostMarvlooks good
03:02.33rascilonGood as long as I'm staying in line with what you guys want im happy.
03:02.34SignpostMarvhttp://inkscape.org/
03:02.44rascilonI'll keep the SVG thing in mind for icons though.
03:02.50SignpostMarvtry inkscape
03:03.08SignpostMarvthough me being me, I tend to do a mix of hard-coding and inkscape
03:03.19SignpostMarv^some paths are easier to do with software
03:03.47rascilonI'll give it a look.  I'm going out of town though in a couple days so you wont see too many updates from me after tomorrow
03:03.55rascilonGoing to Blizzcon
03:05.16rascilonRegarding the http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Storybook_Planets page, do you think since it's all populated now, it should look like the other rare pages and not link out to sub-pages?
03:06.34SignpostMarvdebatable
03:06.45SignpostMarvthey're for planets
03:07.47rascilonWell maybe they should be their own category then
03:07.55rascilonCause the formatting is inconsistent
03:08.05SignpostMarvconsistency is good, but why a category ?
03:08.52rascilonWell for example if you look at the story book detail pages, the template being used keeps most of the info null
03:09.27rascilonLook at this page I havent touched
03:09.29rascilonhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Tentacles
03:09.41rascilonnotice how all the detail information is empty or redundant
03:09.45rascilonIt's not needed
03:11.12rascilonIt's the same template on pages ive updated, craters, pastry, marshmallows, and rattlesnake but it's not useful info
03:11.35SignpostMarvI'm wondering if those templates were designed before the game was released...
03:11.40rascilonplus i think my screenshots are more consistent across the board, cause i used or tried to use a consistent view
03:11.58rascilonYou may be right, or taken from perhaps an astronomy wiki
03:12.10rascilonI'm just saying it doesn't really improve the particular page
03:12.33rascilonSo you might want to talk to the admins about merging the page like all the other rares
03:12.42rascilonIf you think that's prudent of course.
03:12.53SignpostMarvtis from 2006
03:12.57SignpostMarv^the template
03:13.49rascilonI am doing my best to try and meet the admins so you guys can use my talk page to let me know if I'm doing something that's outside of the guidelines.
03:13.55SignpostMarvi think some of those details aren't going to be possible to obtain without examining dat stuffages
03:14.08rascilonI kinda agree but it's not up to me.
03:14.57SignpostMarvdoes stuff by consensus
03:15.16rascilonI can tell you though I made sure all my photos were at a 1280x960 jpg standard and compressed to be just below 250k.
03:15.30rascilonI contribute to wowwiki a lot so I used many of their image standards.
03:15.56SignpostMarvyou played with optipng for kicks ?
03:16.23SignpostMarvsee if some of the photos compress better as PNG ?
03:18.12rascilonYeah I realize I get slightly better compression with png, however at the file sizes we are talking about and the fact that most folks are on cable the png format wont matter much
03:18.44rascilonjpg is about 10% worse compression wise but enjoys much greater compatibility with older browsers
03:18.58SignpostMarvyeah, if I'm only getting about 10% better I don't tend to bother
03:19.23rascilonDo you at least feel I'm working in the right direction?
03:20.32SignpostMarvyou seem to be doing good work :)
03:20.58rascilonThank you.  Please let the admins know about me, and use my talk page.  I really just want to help.
03:21.36SignpostMarvi think I might prompt the admins to put their IRC schedules on the wiki
03:23.05rascilonNot a bad idea
03:23.29rascilonWhat is your talk page/user on sporewikia btw?
03:23.53SignpostMarvhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:SignpostMarv_Martin
03:24.51rascilonhehe i gave you an update
03:29.48SignpostMarvtis a good idea- my memory is a bit weird
03:30.17rascilonMeh that's ok, im no superstar either.
03:30.43rascilonI just wanted the admins to be aware of the multiple changes im making
03:31.34rascilonI want to be a part of the team, not some sort of random guy taking over the wiki.
03:32.19rascilonI talked to Eululia about it last week, but I never heard back from him/her.
03:32.36rascilonI'm not sure if I am getting that spelling right or not either.
03:34.06SignpostMarvhe tends to change the spelling a bit :-P
03:36.10rascilonthat's cool as long as you know who im talking about.
03:36.19rascilonHey man I need to run, but it was nice to get to meet you.
03:36.30SignpostMarvnp
03:36.32SignpostMarvhave fun
03:36.32rascilonJust let me know on my talk page if you want me to change directions.
03:37.24rascilonthanks for the audience
03:37.27rascilonhave a good one
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15:27.28Oseõld
15:27.30Ose~old
15:27.31infobot[old] Ose's mom
15:28.05Ose~old
15:28.05infobotOse's mom is old
15:28.21Ose~old
15:28.22infobotinfobot's mom is old
15:28.26Osenice
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15:39.05Eulaliapokes Ose: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListUsers/helper
15:39.14Ose~old
15:39.15infobotOse's mom is old
15:39.18Osedamn
15:39.22EulaliaOw.
15:39.26Eulalia~old
15:39.27infobotEulalia's mom is old
15:39.30Osehah
15:39.33Eulalia~hot
15:39.33infobothot is, like, i kiss around alot when the weather is hot
15:39.45Eulalia~wtf infobot
15:39.59Osegz btw
15:40.17OseAustin?
15:40.44OseOMGZ UR AUSTIN PAWARZ?
15:41.17Eulaliabacks awai slowlee
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16:40.00Eulalia459678just banned Ose from all Wikia wikis
16:40.12Ose:D
16:40.34Osenow I can concentrate on the important stuff
16:40.56Eulalia459678XDD
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18:30.13SignpostMarvboo
18:34.56Eulalia459678Hai.
18:35.37Eulalia459678SignpostMarv, http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListUsers/helper
18:35.49Eulalia459678^^
18:36.01SignpostMarv:)
18:36.19Eulalia459678It's a lot harder than I thought it would be :p
18:41.38SignpostMarvit always is, just try not to get burned out
18:41.49SignpostMarvhave you done research into wiki bots ?
18:42.49Eulalia459678Yeah, I had a running one last week.
18:43.08Eulalia459678I deleted him (I think) 'cuz I didn't have much use for him.
18:43.11SignpostMarvthought about scripting a welcome bot and giving richard a few tips ?
18:43.50Eulalia459678There's a welcome.py script.
18:45.22Eulalia459678SignpostMarv: Want me to?
18:45.40SignpostMarvit'd be good experience for you, and you'd be able to help out another helper
18:46.22Eulalia459678Meh, ture...
18:46.24Eulalia459678*true
18:46.40Eulalia459678I'll code one a little later, when I have a while.
18:48.45SignpostMarv:)
18:48.51SignpostMarvrascilon was in last night
18:49.04Eulalia459678Who?
18:52.21SignpostMarvguy uploading a bunch of images ?
18:59.46Eulalia459678Wow. . . On Entertainment.wikia, Camp Rock redrects to Camp Rock which redirects to Camp Rock O_o
19:00.28SignpostMarvwhut ?
19:01.13Eulalia459678The Camp Rock article redirects to itself, and then redirects to itself again :p
19:13.35SignpostMarvinteresting
19:15.00Eulalia459678You know of any Grumpy Old Men on tv?
19:17.06SignpostMarvyeah, I've seen it on the BBC
19:17.29Eulalia459678No, /a/ grumpy old man
19:17.37Eulalia459678Not a show/movie/whatever :p
19:22.07SignpostMarvis a cynical arthritis sufferer
19:22.12SignpostMarvacts like a grumpy old man
19:22.40Eulalia459678XD
19:26.19SignpostMarvoh,
19:26.20SignpostMarvbtw
19:26.27SignpostMarv{{Planet}}
19:26.27DottedSignpostMarv meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Planet
19:26.31SignpostMarvmade in 2006
19:26.45SignpostMarvwas designed with info not easily obtainable in mind
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20:27.24Ose~old
20:27.24infobotOse's mom is old
20:27.42Ose~old
20:27.42infobotOse's mom is old
20:28.02Ose~old
20:28.02infobotSignpostMarv's mom is old
20:28.06Oseyes
20:28.39SignpostMarvboo
20:28.45SignpostMarv{{Planet}}
20:28.45DottedSignpostMarv meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Planet
20:28.49SignpostMarvmade in 2006
20:29.03SignpostMarvseems to have been designed with info that isn't easily obtainable in mind
20:30.27Oseheh
20:32.32SignpostMarvso I'm thinking these "unobtainable" fields should probably be removed in all cases except concept/fan-fic
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20:51.28Eulalia459678commands Ose to finish his Ten Grumpy Dudes page >:(((((
20:51.42OseI can't think of anyone else!!!
20:52.04Eulalia459678Me neither :p
20:52.16Eulalia459678Besides your mom, I'm out of ideas.
20:52.22Eulalia459678XD
20:52.57Ose~old
20:52.57infobotEulalia459678's mom is old
20:53.10Eulalia459678~old
20:53.10infobotChanServ's mom is old
20:53.13Eulalia459678XDDD
20:53.24Eulalia459678~old
20:53.24infobotSignpostMarv's mom is old
20:53.32Eulalia459678. . .
21:04.09Ose~old
21:04.09infobotChanServ's mom is old
21:05.38Eulalia459678~OLD
21:05.38infobotSignpostMarv's mom is old
21:05.43Eulalia459678~OlD
21:05.43infobotEulalia459678's mom is old
21:05.48Eulalia459678:(
21:05.58SignpostMarv...
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