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| 10:36.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | whitequark: re https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/qi-hardware/2014-01-28#6313160; 'm looking for the story you linked: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2009/10/23/things_i_wont_work_with_straight_dimethyl_zinc.php#441578 --- dead link. Do you have any working new location? Or maybe a copy of that awesome story? |
| 10:37.27 | whitequark | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2009/10/23/things_i_wont_work_with_straight_dimethyl_zinc |
| 10:37.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I found https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2009/10/23/things_i_wont_work_with_straight_dimethyl_zinc but... |
| 10:38.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | that story was about fictional rocket propellant by red mercury |
| 10:39.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/qi-hardware/2014-01-28#6313671; |
| 10:41.00 | whitequark | ohh |
| 10:41.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL @ the internet never forgets |
| 10:43.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I still recall the author wrote he met another guy for a drink and that other guy told him the truth about how zhey nuked a complete reactor in Russia when they started a rocket powered by red mercury |
| 10:46.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | incredibly awesome ridiculous story, I recalled it when I heard https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/russland-atomunfall-101.html "tested a new cruise missile with nuklear propulsion engine" |
| 10:47.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Amerikanische Experten vermuten, dass es beim Test eines neuartigen Marschflugkörpers mit Atomantrieb zu einer Explosion gekommen ist.<< |
| 10:53.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-radiation-spike-explosion-rocket-engine-missile-test-latest-a9046721.html |
| 10:53.57 | whitequark | you know it's science fiction right |
| 10:54.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, the red mercury stuff is pure fiction |
| 10:55.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I went [10 Aug 2019 10:34:18] <DocScrutinizer> hahaha >>Amerikanische Experten vermuten, dass es beim Test eines neuartigen Marschflugkörpers mit Atomantrieb zu einer Explosion gekommen ist.<< [10 Aug 2019 10:34:43] <DocScrutinizer> red mercury |
| 10:56.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | watch the pictures of explosion at independent.co.uk |
| 10:59.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks to me like whole armor depot blasting off, prolly with lots of depleted uranium shells, maybe even nuclear devices |
| 11:00.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't buy those speculations of american "experts" about a nuclear powered new propulsion engine test |
| 11:00.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a cruise missile !!! |
| 11:00.52 | whitequark | ah, yeah |
| 11:01.13 | whitequark | actually there were prototypes of nuclear powered propulsion engines in the US in 50s but they were too insane to even try to build |
| 11:01.22 | whitequark | more schemes than prototypes |
| 11:01.26 | whitequark | they'd probably technically work |
| 11:01.51 | whitequark | wait, no |
| 11:01.55 | whitequark | they actually built several of them |
| 11:01.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | but way too complicated and expensive and dangerous for sth you can easily achieve by conservative means |
| 11:02.02 | whitequark | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_Nuclear_Propulsion |
| 11:02.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least in cruise missiles |
| 11:02.30 | whitequark | oh it doesn't make sense other than in context of "cold war strategic bomber" and *even then* it doesn't make enough sense |
| 11:05.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> The advantage of a nuclear-powered aircraft over a conventionally-powered aircraft is that it could remain airborne orders of magnitude longer<< yeah |
| 11:06.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather pointless for a cruise missile |
| 11:07.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm mildly concerned though about si,ilarities in public announcements scheme between this incident and chernobyl |
| 11:08.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | similarities* |
| 11:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaalready checked wind direction on site, alas 2 days later |
| 11:09.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway was from NW |
| 11:10.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | to SE in 300m altitude |
| 11:10.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.windy.com/64.593/40.552?64.323,40.551,8 |
| 11:13.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I miss that novel about red mercury, it was a very entertaining read |
| 11:13.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | checks wayback |
| 11:22.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | if only I could come up with any other search terms specific to that novel |
| 11:22.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://archive.org/search.php?query=red+mercury&and%5B%5D=collection%3A%22texts%22&sin=TXT&and%5B%5D=languageSorter%3A%22English%22&page=2 |
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| 11:49.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry the photos in https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-radiation-spike-explosion-rocket-engine-missile-test-latest-a9046721.html are of another incident |
| 11:50.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | abysmal report quality |
| 11:50.54 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer05: https://www.tor.com/2012/07/20/a-tall-tail/ |
| 11:51.01 | whitequark | googled it in 1 second... |
| 11:51.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | WOW; no idea which universe's google yiou got ;-) many many thanks |
| 11:53.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | or which magic google fu you practice |
| 11:55.02 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer05: query: "red mercury short story" |
| 11:55.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | "short story" is the magic I guess |
| 11:55.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't occur to me ;-) |
| 11:55.48 | whitequark | well i've seen you sya "novel" and it wasnt really novel length |
| 11:55.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 11:56.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | "short story" isn't in my all-active vocabulary |
| 11:56.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I had to dig a while to come up with "novel" |
| 11:57.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | the curse of a 100% technical english education |
| 11:57.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I love readinfg short stories ;-) |
| 11:57.55 | whitequark | hehe |
| 11:58.05 | whitequark | yeah, i usually have the opposite problem |
| 11:58.14 | whitequark | translating english (technical and social) concepts into my first language |
| 11:58.50 | whitequark | "what the fuck do you call the difference between money and wealth?.." |
| 12:10.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Elemental fluorine may be the thuggish hit-man of the halide world, but if you torment it with chloride ions you can turn it into the chemical equivalent of Hannibal Lecter: chlorine trifluoride, an oxidizing agent so malignant that it will set fire to water and burn explosively on contact with sand, asbestos, or rocket scientists.<< |
| 12:10.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | how I missed it, ROTFL |
| 12:56.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | whitequark: I just a few days ago told somebody "each version of the site gets more precise and rich" and a native english speaker pulled my leg by "rich! yeah, lots of money" |
| 12:56.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I replied "RTF is wealthy Text Format then?" |
| 15:34.17 | whitequark | i mean, "rich content" is something you could use in idiomatic english* |
| 15:34.20 | whitequark | * if you're an ibm drone |
| 17:35.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only know rich text format |
| 17:36.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I think I've seen "rich flavor" a lot of times on food and cigs |