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| 21:39.16 | baaba | Hello |
| 21:40.48 | baaba | Is it a good idea to get a Nanonote now or is there anything better for the price ? |
| 21:53.00 | baaba | Is there anyone here ? :/ |
| 21:56.23 | mth | hi |
| 21:56.48 | baaba | hi |
| 21:56.48 | mth | there is not a lot of activity around the nanonote anymore, I think |
| 21:56.56 | mth | but I don't know if any alternatives exist |
| 21:57.00 | baaba | oh |
| 21:57.07 | mth | it also depends on what you intend to use it for |
| 21:57.35 | baaba | well a note taking device mainly or maybe a media player |
| 21:57.56 | baaba | is et still being sold  ? |
| 21:58.08 | baaba | I just emailed ida systems |
| 21:59.01 | mth | I don't know, maybe wolfspraul or xiangfu knows |
| 21:59.24 | baaba | oh okay thanks, do you own a Nanonote ? |
| 21:59.38 | mth | there is the Pandora and its successor Fyra, but those are a lot more expensive than the NanoNote |
| 21:59.53 | baaba | yeah more than 300Â euros |
| 21:59.58 | mth | no, I got here because I had a Dingoo A320, which uses similar hardware, but doesn't have a keyboard |
| 22:00.07 | baaba | the nanonote is around 50Â on ida systems |
| 22:00.11 | baaba | oh okay |
| 22:03.36 | baaba | is there any similar device suitable for note taking. media playing and occasionnaly programming ? |
| 22:04.05 | baaba | preferably cheap ? |
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| 22:14.06 | paul_boddie | baaba: The keyboard isn't that great on the NanoNote, but it does seem to be supported in recent Linux kernel releases. |
| 22:14.39 | paul_boddie | Thanks to all the people tirelessly working on upstreaming MIPS/Ingenic stuff. :-) |
| 22:17.49 | baaba | oh ok thanks |
| 22:18.02 | baaba | so you own a nanonote paul_boddie |
| 22:18.33 | paul_boddie | Yes. Still experiment with stuff on it, although it's been a few months. |
| 22:19.07 | paul_boddie | Was using it to (very slowly and with some frustration) learn about the MIPS architecture. |
| 22:19.41 | mth | paul_boddie: speaking of kernels, we're trying to close the gaps between 4770 and 4740 to prepare for upstreaming, but you wrote earlier than some things got broken along the way |
| 22:20.00 | baaba | paul_boddie, where did you get it from ? |
| 22:20.09 | mth | (we = pcercuei and me, who maintain the gcw0 kernel) |
| 22:20.18 | paul_boddie | Well, 4.7.2 built and ran on the NanoNote, at least well enough to boot my Debian installation. |
| 22:20.36 | paul_boddie | Thanks to you (mth) and pcercuei for all the hard work! |
| 22:20.57 | paul_boddie | baaba: I got mine from Pulster back in 2012, but he sold out not too long afterwards. Only Ida Systems has them now. |
| 22:21.28 | paul_boddie | mth: Is the 4775 supportable from the 4770 code? I'm still hoping for EOMA68-jz4775 one day. |
| 22:21.43 | baaba | oh ok thanks for the info |
| 22:21.55 | mth | probably, but I don't have a 4775 device to test on |
| 22:21.57 | baaba | are they still manufactured ? I doubt it but... |
| 22:22.06 | mth | it's a lot like the 4770 but without the gpu, right? |
| 22:22.15 | paul_boddie | baaba: No, I think only 2000 were made, according to estimations made by outsiders. |
| 22:22.32 | paul_boddie | mth: Yes, no GPU, just the vector stuff or something like that. |
| 22:22.36 | mth | ideally you'd only have to create a new devicetree file for it |
| 22:22.53 | baaba | oh wow so they're quite rare |
| 22:23.11 | paul_boddie | I should look at the 4740 device tree description just to get into that a bit more. |
| 22:23.28 | paul_boddie | baaba: Yes, they'll be funding our pensions in a few years. ;-) |
| 22:23.51 | mth | the 4740 doesn't use DT as much as it should yet; we have several of the shared drivers migrated in the 4770 tree |
| 22:24.09 | mth | it would be worthwhile to fix that and try whether it still runs on 4740 |
| 22:24.28 | mth | I think pcercuei did some tests, but I don't remember how far he got |
| 22:24.38 | baaba | Is there any plan to make an other nanonote with better specs ? paul_boddie ? |
| 22:32.26 | paul_boddie | I got confused with the gcwnow stuff, but to my surprise the official kernel worked, no patches needed. |
| 22:33.03 | paul_boddie | baaba: No. There's no-one with the knowledge of the original and no continuity with that project. |
| 22:33.26 | paul_boddie | There was a plan a while ago but it got shelved. I guess demand for the Ben wasn't enough. |
| 22:33.45 | baaba | yeah it must be that |
| 22:34.54 | paul_boddie | Maybe people will be motivated enough to do a similar EOMA68 device. I don't know, really. |
| 22:35.21 | baaba | oh yes that would be interesting |
| 22:36.40 | paul_boddie | I think the keyboard would be the critical thing. I don't know how good the N900 or Pyra keyboards are, but a study of how they're done would be useful. |
| 22:38.22 | paul_boddie | mth: Apart from GCW-Zero is there any other "action" in the MIPS scene in terms of devices getting out there? Apart from routers, I guess. |
| 22:40.31 | mth | there is the ci20 and ci40 |
| 22:40.43 | mth | and I heard someone talk about an x1000 dev kit |
| 22:43.50 | baaba | What is the nanonote battery life ? |
| 22:48.27 | paul_boddie | The CI20 doesn't exactly seem well supported any more. I guess the CI40 is still being delivered to backers. |
| 22:48.44 | paul_boddie | I've never really tested the battery life with the NanoNote. |
| 22:52.39 | baaba | oh okay |
| 22:53.03 | paul_boddie | Some people were using Yeeloong and other such stuff, but reading things recently, they seem to be abandoning it. |
| 22:53.27 | paul_boddie | I don't have a good overview of the MIPS scene from Lemote and similar vendors. |
| 22:55.25 | paul_boddie | baaba: I was also messing around with the NanoNote like this... http://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=452 |
| 22:55.48 | paul_boddie | It's Werner's fault that I got started doing stuff like that. ;-) |
| 23:00.08 | paul_boddie | is retiring for the evening. |
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