IRC log for #qi-hardware on 20150818

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06:33.46kyakand that's the first time i heard "wprak" pronounced. It's like "double-u-pi-rak", when in my head i used to say "vi-pi-rak" :)
07:14.49larscI'll stay with the later, much more fluent
07:16.22viricI pronounce it "brac" or "beprac" (бэпр'ак)
07:51.42kyakviric: why is "b" the first sound? did you mean "v" (вэпрак)?
07:53.23viricmost catalans, like spaniards, don't distinguish b and v :)
07:53.27viricand on start of word, that's always 'b'
07:53.42kyakah! :)
07:54.02viricmy friends say "it's incredible that you make sound Barcelona and València the same way" :)
07:54.39viriclike korean, we make one sound at start of word, another between vowels. And none is like в
07:55.35virickoreans don't have d/t distinction. Between vocals they use to do 'd', else 't'.
07:55.46viricbut it is one single letter for them.
07:55.50viric(koreans please confirm :)
07:56.39kyakso you do say "Balencia"? :)
07:56.47viricyes
07:57.11viricalthough specifically the catalans of València do distinguish b/v :)
07:57.22kyakwhat a useless letter then, v :)
07:57.45viricas years pass by, we need less letters ;)
07:58.05viricwe have troubles to know what to write, b or v
07:59.51kyaklet's merge w and v. Then merge v and b :)
07:59.59viricwe don't have w
08:00.42virichere, careless english pronouncers say "gu" instead of "w". :)
08:00.45kyakbut wiki says you do! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_orthography
08:01.01virickyak: just for foreign words taken straight, like 'k'.
08:01.48viricwe is pronounced гуи.
08:02.30kyakgoddamn, not even close to how it is written down :)
08:02.40viricwe have value → гуи хаф балъю
08:03.29viricтвёрдом ел
08:03.36kyakit's like you have a nose disease :)
08:03.41viric:)
08:03.58viricRussian: ви ав валю
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08:04.16kyakви хэв вэлью
08:04.31viricah, that's more USA. :)
08:04.40kyakthat's hwo a bad english teacher would say
08:04.43virica → з
08:04.55kyakyeah, it's more american english
08:05.41kyakэ, not з :)
08:05.48viricoops yes
08:06.11kyakthere is a joke about how one russian would argue with american that it is possible to write down "3" in lower case
08:06.20viricItalian: ви авва валъюа
08:06.38virichehe
08:06.49kyakand then he would write russian letter "ze" - з
08:07.23viricI like how you turn 180° the hour in km/h ;)
08:08.05viriclooks like a print typo
08:09.10kyaksorry, i didn't get it - "180° the hour" ?
08:09.18viricкм/ч
08:09.43kyakbut 180°?..
08:09.48virich → ч
08:10.21viricpi radians
08:10.21kyakmaybe my perseption is biased, i don't get it :)
08:10.52viricupside-down
08:11.38viricвверх ногами
08:11.49kyaki took a paper and a pencil
08:11.58viric:D
08:12.11kyaki get it that ч is upside-down h
08:12.17viricthat's all
08:12.53virica 180° turn
08:13.07viricpi radians turn
08:13.20kyakok, i got it --)
08:13.28viricha :)
08:13.51kyaki was thinking at first about coversion from "180° the hour" to "km/h"
08:14.06viricyou never thought that km/h and км/ч have one letter upside down?
08:14.06kyakwhich doesn't really make sense
08:14.25kyaknope, i didn't
08:14.29viric:)
08:14.42viricinteresting perception
08:14.45kyaktht's really fucking cray
08:14.59viricкрай?
08:15.03kyaki'll show some foreigner my speedometer
08:15.04viricedge-thinking ? :)
08:15.06virichehe
08:15.19kyaki'll tell him - look, there is a typo. Letter "h" is upside down
08:15.24virichehe
08:16.33kyaki get a feeeling about how foreigners see cyrillic when i look at greek text
08:16.37kyaki think so
08:16.56viricfair comparison
08:17.07kyakbecause it's like "letters are similar, but some look very strange
08:17.31viricor gothic germa
08:17.34viricgothic german
08:17.45viricin which larsc helps me :)
08:18.12virickyak: like this https://books.google.es/books?id=yNRRAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA175
08:18.36kyakviric: looks like a regular german to me :)
08:18.44viriche is, by far, the german which understands that text best.
08:18.54viricmost tell me "I don't know gothic"
08:19.33kyaksame way, a latin man wouldn't probably see a difference between greek and cyrillic
08:20.02viricnot much, no.
08:20.57kyakok, gotta go now. Nice discussion
08:21.15viric:) пока!
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12:28.21DocScrutinizer51~ping
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12:32.00DocScrutinizer51anybody wolfgang lately?
12:32.00DocScrutinizer51anybody seen wolfgang lately?
12:32.00DocScrutinizer51ooh, and greetings from wpwrak :D
12:32.36DocScrutinizer51anybody seen wolfgang lately?
12:32.36DocScrutinizer51ooh, and greetings from wpwrak :D
12:33.37pcercueihe's in Germany?
12:33.52DocScrutinizer51yes
12:35.26DocScrutinizer51we're both at cccamp15
13:25.52DocScrutinizer51anybody seen wolfgang spraul lately?
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