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| 07:13.32 | kyak | ubuntu "command-line system" installation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems) takes up 159 Mb of RAM.. |
| 07:13.55 | kyak | in contrast, arch linux installation takes up 57 Mb |
| 07:17.25 | kyak | which is still too much in my opinion.. i think it used to be 13 Mb before they switched to systemd |
| 07:18.00 | kyak | or maybe i confuse it with nanonote :) |
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| 07:35.28 | larsc | the nanonote kernel alone is almost that size |
| 08:00.20 | whitequark | is there a shell command (*not* a bash builtin) that implements ! ? |
| 08:00.26 | whitequark | something like... not |
| 08:00.35 | whitequark | not true; echo $? # 0 |
| 08:01.46 | larsc | well, test |
| 08:02.09 | whitequark | test doesn't invoke commands though |
| 08:02.33 | larsc | depends on your shell I guess |
| 08:02.41 | whitequark | bash |
| 08:02.45 | whitequark | oh |
| 08:02.52 | whitequark | >(*not* a bash builtin) |
| 08:02.56 | whitequark | exactly because of this |
| 08:03.01 | whitequark | /usr/bin/[ doesn't invoke commands. |
| 08:05.00 | larsc | run a subshell ;) |
| 08:05.11 | whitequark | eugh |
| 08:05.55 | kyak | what is that you are trying to do in the first place? |
| 08:06.44 | whitequark | exactly what I described. I have a command which returns 1 on success and I need a negation of it |
| 08:07.32 | larsc | but why does it have to be not a shell built-in |
| 08:08.27 | whitequark | because if $x doesn't invoke shell builtins |
| 08:08.37 | whitequark | I eventually caved and did sh -c "$x" instead |
| 08:12.19 | kyak | can you invoke your command first, and then use "$?" in test? |
| 08:12.33 | whitequark | nah |
| 08:12.43 | whitequark | nevermind though, it works with subshell |
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| 10:00.01 | wpwrak | whitequark: eval "$x" :) |
| 10:00.23 | wpwrak | (with ! and whatever builtin you fancy) |
| 10:02.15 | whitequark | oh, ha, that'd actually be what I want |
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