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| 09:37.42 | viric | zear: don't link with ld. link with gcc! |
| 09:37.48 | viric | ld is too low level |
| 09:38.21 | viric | zear: and put -lc at the end. symbols are resolved in the order you supply libraries. |
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| 10:48.57 | zear | viric, when using ld, -lc at the end doesn't change anything |
| 10:49.13 | zear | I will need to modify the internal toolchain's makerules to link with gcc |
| 10:50.40 | viric | then, don't supply -lc and such things |
| 10:50.46 | viric | gcc knows how to link a c program. |
| 10:51.51 | zear | well, -lc is supplied automatically by the internal makerules :) |
| 10:52.29 | viric | ld is a quite dumb linker. it doesn't know about c. |
| 10:52.54 | zear | the whole problem is really the lack of dev documentation in the project |
| 10:53.29 | zear | and decuding everything from the comments of the headers is not exactly the good way to learn about stuff |
| 10:55.47 | zear | by the way, i always thought that when you link with gcc, it calls ld |
| 10:55.57 | zear | but seems it's not how it is |
| 10:59.13 | wpwrak | gcc does call ld for linking. but it provides a number of options you may find hard to guess. |
| 10:59.43 | wpwrak | you can of course strace it and see what the arguments are, then work from that |
| 11:00.33 | zear | yes, but then a new version of gcc comes with some better optimizations towards linking |
| 11:00.48 | zear | so i think always linking with gcc is safer |
| 11:02.52 | wpwrak | there may not be a lot of changes. but yes, if something changes, then you probably wouldn't notice and spend a lot of time tracking the mystery problem down |
| 11:04.33 | viric | wpwrak: gcc -v shows all |
| 11:04.37 | viric | no need for strace |
| 11:04.50 | zear | ha, that's nice |
| 11:08.32 | wpwrak | fun: .au and .nz are not counted ;-) |
| 11:10.52 | larsc | counted for what? |
| 11:12.24 | wpwrak | oops, wrong channel. on http://tweetping.net |
| 11:23.49 | zear | so how is the nanonote nowadays? |
| 11:24.02 | zear | i haven't been tracking the progress since.. 2011 or so |
| 11:24.16 | zear | are they still being sold? |
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| 11:34.48 | wpwrak | i think they are still available. not sure about the sales volume. i'm also not sure if sharism still sells them, or only pulster. |
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