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| 00:46.46 | kristianpaul | wpwrak: had you ever ordered from rs-online? |
| 00:49.30 | wpwrak | let's see what that is .. |
| 00:49.48 | wpwrak | rs-online.com.ar ? |
| 00:50.54 | wpwrak | and no, i never bought from them |
| 00:51.05 | kristianpaul | .ar no |
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| 05:41.09 | qi-bot | The build was successful: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121015-0257 |
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| 08:19.34 | qi-bot | [commit] kyak: keymouse: update dl method, drop patches (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ed585eb |
| 08:47.45 | qi-bot | [commit] kyak: mplayer:depends on libmpg123 if BUILD_PATENTED (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b5a00a3 |
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| 11:12.27 | qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: avrdude: fix depends (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/6a2b914 |
| 11:20.11 | kyak | xiangfu: hi, this is the final patch i'm using with qt4: https://gist.github.com/3891999 |
| 11:20.23 | kyak | might help with the issues on buildhost |
| 11:20.39 | xiangfu | click.. |
| 11:21.40 | kyak | xiangfu: what could be the reson for "Error - can't retrieve XBurst CPU information: -110" when trying to flash? lsusb shows ID 601a:4740 Ingenic Semiconductor Ltd. XBurst Jz4740 boot mode |
| 11:22.02 | xiangfu | kyak, I will apply your patch. and continue build the image. |
| 11:22.35 | kyak | also it's not bricked, i can boot fine :) perhaps some intermittent problem that might go away after i reboot?.. |
| 11:22.35 | xiangfu | kyak, are you using software-usbboot or hardware-usbboot? |
| 11:22.47 | kyak | the software i guess (U+Power) |
| 11:23.30 | kyak | xiangfu: you might want to apply the patch for package-ipkg.mk i sent you as well.. |
| 11:23.44 | xiangfu | kyak, already done that on buildhost. thanks. |
| 11:24.02 | kyak | there is no reply in according bug report (12317) |
| 11:25.06 | xiangfu | kyak, I will test the u-boot software usbboot mode later today. |
| 11:25.15 | xiangfu | kyak, the final image almost here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121015-0257/ |
| 11:26.11 | xiangfu | kyak, after apply your qt patch. I will try to build qball/qstardict again. no matter it build or not. I will start test the images. |
| 11:26.39 | xiangfu | kyak, I will include the new avrdude package. which is used in werner's ledtoy. :) |
| 11:26.51 | kyak | nice :) |
| 11:27.02 | xiangfu | kyak, package-ipkg.mk. your patch looks good. |
| 11:28.34 | xiangfu | kyak, after changed a new fan. my computer get better. less noise. lower temperature then before. :) |
| 11:28.39 | kyak | maybe i will try hardware usbboot.. i swear it was working just yesterday (but yesterday i also had my host kernel updated) |
| 11:29.13 | kyak | xiangfu: i'm getting a new laptop today.. In fact i'm waiting for the damn delivery guy |
| 11:30.04 | xiangfu | kyak, ok. so you change whole computer. much better then change only fan. :-D |
| 11:30.17 | kyak | usbboot returns CPU info: Crystal work at 12MHz, the CCLK up to 252MHz and PMH_CLK up to 84MHz etc.. |
| 11:30.47 | xiangfu | kyak, you are using the new u-boot right? |
| 11:31.03 | kyak | yep, the new one |
| 11:31.10 | kyak | which i flashed just yesterday |
| 11:32.26 | xiangfu | kyak, is that happen once or everytime you reflash? |
| 11:32.33 | kyak | maybe i'll connect the second nanonote, which has an older u-boot … |
| 11:32.42 | kyak | this started to happen just today |
| 11:34.13 | kyak | yeah, works flawlessly on the second NN |
| 11:34.27 | kyak | oh, maybe not quite.. |
| 11:35.02 | kyak | http://dpaste.org/5QmTQ/ |
| 11:35.06 | kyak | stil -110 at the end |
| 11:35.51 | xiangfu | kyak, can you try this u-boot: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121015-0257/openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-u-boot.bin |
| 11:38.09 | xiangfu | kyak, after load stage2.bin. usbboot try to read the 'CPU data' again. your error because it take too long to read the data by usb. |
| 11:41.15 | xiangfu | kyak, this can fixed by increase the delay inside the usbboot code. (http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/xburst-tools/source/tree/master/usbboot/src/ingenic_usb.c#L331) |
| 11:41.54 | xiangfu | kyak, this maybe because your new kernel? what is your new kernel version? (I am using 3.2.0-24-generic in my laptop) |
| 11:53.56 | kyak | mine is 3.6.2 |
| 11:54.05 | kyak | i will downgrade and try |
| 12:06.13 | kyak | xiangfu: works great on 3.5.6 |
| 12:08.27 | kyak | xiangfu: btw, do you know why usbboot doesn't check if a chunk was successfully flashed, when flashing bootloader? |
| 12:08.28 | kyak | compare: |
| 12:08.48 | kyak | Finish! (len 360448 start_page 0 page_num 88) |
| 12:08.49 | kyak | Checking 360448 bytes... No check! end at page: 88 |
| 12:08.55 | kyak | that's for bootloader |
| 12:08.58 | kyak | and for kernel: |
| 12:09.06 | kyak | Finish! (len 524288 start_page 1024 page_num 128) |
| 12:09.10 | kyak | Checking 524288 bytes... Comparing 524288 bytes - SUCCESS |
| 12:09.27 | kyak | you see, there is no "SUCCESS" when flashing bootloader |
| 12:09.50 | kyak | so the progress bar get's confused, because it relies on "SUCCESS" string |
| 12:10.05 | viric | the bootloader may lack ECC |
| 12:10.17 | viric | or use some weird one |
| 12:10.33 | viric | but as it's writing, something could be checked I guess |
| 12:16.55 | wpwrak | the best practice is generally to first write everything, then verify everything. that way, also writes that went to the wrong place are detected. |
| 12:17.11 | xiangfu | kyak, because. the jz4740 cpu can only read 2KB nand at boot time. even the nand is 4KB. it still load 2KB. |
| 12:18.02 | xiangfu | kyak, so when we reflash the bootloader. we reflash like [2KB(skip 2kb)] [2KB(skip 2kb)] |
| 12:20.08 | wpwrak | xiangfu: btw, thanks for including the latest avrdude ! |
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| 12:24.57 | kyak | xiangfu: yeah, that's clear, but why we don't check (SUCCESS) the first chunk in this case? |
| 12:29.53 | xiangfu | kyak, no reason. there is just no such message. feel free to add one. :) |
| 12:30.00 | xiangfu | wpwrak, you are welcome. |
| 12:47.36 | kyak | xiangfu: ok, i'll have a look |
| 12:52.19 | xiangfu | kyak, at that time. I do copy a lot of windows ingenic code. |
| 12:53.00 | kyak | does it mean we would be able to flash from windows? |
| 12:53.23 | xiangfu | kyak, basically the linux relate code is better then others like ingenic_usb.c :) |
| 12:53.33 | xiangfu | kyak, yes. we can |
| 12:54.17 | kyak | sounds great.. though a working RNDIS would be so much better |
| 12:55.14 | xiangfu | kyak, the windows code is here: http://downloads.openmobilefree.net/Ingneic/xburst-tools-windows/. |
| 12:56.57 | xiangfu | kyak, ingenic people allow me put this source code public. |
| 13:02.29 | kyak | btw, while we discuss Windows support, i'm in a process in removing Windows from my new laptop :) |
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| 13:28.41 | xiangfu | kyak, that fix the root cause of 'RNDIS issue'. :D |
| 13:34.54 | kyak | --) |
| 14:03.28 | kristianpaul | air freight is like air mail in terms of costs? |
| 14:05.09 | qi-bot | [commit] Xiangfu: nanonote-files: mtd.nn: improvement on mount (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/f7f72e3 |
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| 15:45.33 | wpwrak | freight is typically for large things and tends to be slower |
| 15:46.09 | wpwrak | so you can't really compare prices |
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| 15:48.00 | wpwrak | you basically have 1) documents (fast, cheapest), 2) parcels (may be a little slower than documents due to customs, but not much, often a bit more expensive than documents), 3) cargo (generally with more complicated customs procedures) |
| 15:48.41 | wpwrak | in other words: what you pick depends mainly on what you're sending |
| 17:36.05 | kristianpaul | larger.. |
| 17:36.10 | kristianpaul | damn |
| 17:39.30 | kristianpaul | 40usd from uk |
| 17:39.42 | kristianpaul | wow and 100usd from digikey/usa |
| 17:39.58 | kristianpaul | let me check currency again :) |
| 17:40.27 | kristianpaul | it seems |
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| 17:53.35 | whitequark | what |
| 17:53.41 | whitequark | I'm used to FedEx and EMS deliveries |
| 17:53.50 | whitequark | but it is the first time some drunk guy is delivered to my door |
| 17:56.04 | kristianpaul | ? |
| 17:56.39 | whitequark | exactly |
| 17:58.26 | kristianpaul | FedEx how much? |
| 17:58.54 | kristianpaul | that 100usd is fedex |
| 18:07.06 | whitequark | kristianpaul: yeah, it's the same for russia |
| 18:07.14 | whitequark | use farnell |
| 18:07.16 | whitequark | it's way better |
| 18:07.36 | kristianpaul | i was qouting from rs |
| 18:07.41 | kristianpaul | i'll check farnell |
| 18:07.48 | whitequark | rs? |
| 18:07.55 | kristianpaul | rs-online |
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| 18:30.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-10-15 19:28:52] <TimRiker> DocScrutinizer05, there have been a few channels where I created files with the name of the log directory. This effectively stops the cron job from exporting html logs for those channels. |
| 18:30.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-10-15 19:30:26] <TimRiker> I prefer not to have the bot in channels if they don't want them logged. if people are posting on public irc networks and expecting their data to be private in any way, they are in for sore disappointment. _anyone_ could be logging and reposting anything, anywhere. |
| 18:30.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-10-15 19:31:28] <TimRiker> if you don't want your IP shown, then get a cloak. that's what they are for. but remember that sometimes services are down, so even a cloak does not insure that your ip is private. |
| 18:30.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-10-15 19:32:19] <TimRiker> if you don't want your ip shown, don't use irc, or send email, or hit web sites, or use instant messaging, in short, get off the Internet. |
| 18:30.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | so, on ""public demand"" |
| 18:31.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~leave #qi-hardware |
| 18:31.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~quit #qi-hardware |
| 18:31.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | grrr |
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