| 00:00.46 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: nm, found it. What I don't get however is which FW you're using with the sim900d |
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| 01:19.39 | qi-bot | [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: MIPS: Removed declaration of obsolete arch_init_clk_ops() (jz-3.3) http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/77dbab1 |
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| 04:07.34 | hozer | wow, I'm impressed by the nanonote.. |
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| 04:53.55 | wolfspraul | kewl |
| 04:54.00 | wolfspraul | hozer: why? :-) and thanks! |
| 04:54.20 | wolfspraul | not easy to be impressed by it, unless in a sense of insanity |
| 04:54.32 | wolfspraul | it's a wonderful little machine imho |
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| 06:57.21 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer51: ohh, sorry, I got completely lost with different RL stuff :/ |
| 06:57.24 | whitequark | actually |
| 06:57.44 | whitequark | I can mail you just the device I've been doing. I solved the problem it was expected to fix by different means |
| 06:58.43 | whitequark | it's a "devboard" with STM32VLDISCOVERY and two modules with SIM holders and stuff. just add a 2.7V USB-UART |
| 07:02.40 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer51: by the way, your full job title somehow reminds me of this song: http://prostopleer.com/tracks/680964ItHu ... |
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| 08:10.03 | whitequark | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477454 |
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| 08:52.18 | viric | ha. I just noticed skype understands s/blabla/bleble |
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| 11:11.25 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: hey, nice to hear you found a probably better solution to this weird problem |
| 11:11.59 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: the URL returns with immediate "timeout" here. NFC what that means |
| 11:13.33 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: I found those modules offered for ~17EUR from a supposedly western european shop, what I doubt is the firmware they ship. That'S why I asked for the FW you're using |
| 11:17.39 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer: 17 eur is exactly how much they cost here, interesting |
| 11:17.55 | whitequark | as per the firmware, I'll try to find some power supply and check with an AT command... |
| 11:18.38 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: I hoped you got a firmware.bin to flash it to the module |
| 11:19.03 | whitequark | unfortunately no |
| 11:19.22 | whitequark | but I read at local Russian forums that this is possible with a proprietary (presumably leaked) app |
| 11:19.42 | whitequark | so, I think I could get it via some means |
| 11:19.50 | DocScrutinizer | what I found so far was doc that doesn't e.g. mention at+cimei: http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/a/a0/SIM900_ATC_V1_00.pdf |
| 11:20.32 | whitequark | yes |
| 11:20.34 | whitequark | it's AT+SIMEI |
| 11:20.39 | whitequark | and yes, it's undoc'd |
| 11:20.53 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.soselectronic.at/?str=371&artnum=83639 <-17.7EUR |
| 11:20.56 | whitequark | I discovered it via reading local forums and some luck |
| 11:21.17 | whitequark | yeah, looks just like my one |
| 11:21.29 | whitequark | through on my one, the label is color and not b&w |
| 11:22.14 | DocScrutinizer | this stuff has nice features hard to find nowadays: fax, csd... |
| 11:22.32 | whitequark | ... simei, celllock :) |
| 11:22.43 | whitequark | monitor mode |
| 11:22.47 | DocScrutinizer | not documented here |
| 11:22.55 | DocScrutinizer | monitor mode is documented |
| 11:23.03 | DocScrutinizer | p.138 iirc |
| 11:23.05 | whitequark | celllock is in docs |
| 11:23.07 | whitequark | AT*CELLLOCK= |
| 11:23.29 | whitequark | in my docs at least, and they were found on internets, so nothing private here |
| 11:23.34 | whitequark | http://teeblog.blog.com/archives/888/ |
| 11:24.07 | whitequark | an updater and LOTS of firmwares |
| 11:24.24 | DocScrutinizer | not in 'my' docs, that's why I got nervous about that shop and the FW version they sell |
| 11:24.51 | whitequark | in the worst case you'll spend extra €17 and I'll just send you a module from here, right? |
| 11:24.54 | whitequark | or I can simply send it now |
| 11:26.20 | DocScrutinizer | ahaaaa! :-D |
| 11:26.33 | whitequark | well, not exactly now, russian post doesn't work on sundays |
| 11:26.44 | whitequark | but tomorrow is fine |
| 11:27.07 | whitequark | ... wait, I hope it's fine. there is some holidays yet again. |
| 11:27.18 | DocScrutinizer | >>A Firmware of SIM900(here is Firmware:1137B08SIM900M64_ST_DTMF_JD_MMS )<< |
| 11:27.35 | whitequark | I'm pretty sure this version is newer than my one |
| 11:27.37 | DocScrutinizer | >> include MMS(Multimedia Messaging Service), Jamming detection,DTMF, and LBS(Location Based Service) functions. |
| 11:27.44 | whitequark | because mine doesn't have DTMF and Jamming detection |
| 11:27.48 | whitequark | neither does it have LBS |
| 11:27.58 | whitequark | (no idea what's it, but I tried the at command) |
| 11:28.08 | whitequark | also SIM900 != SIM900D |
| 11:28.18 | DocScrutinizer | umm |
| 11:29.18 | whitequark | yeah, SIM900, SIM900B, SIM900D and SIM900DZ are different modules with AFAIK incompatible fw's |
| 11:29.40 | whitequark | also different outputs, e.g. *B doesn't have analog in/out IIRC |
| 11:29.45 | whitequark | or has only one, something like that |
| 11:33.32 | DocScrutinizer | there's a D FW on that site |
| 11:34.26 | whitequark | yeah |
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| 13:12.22 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, I mirrored the interesting stuff at joerg.cloud-7.de in hidden/downld |
| 13:14.34 | DocScrutinizer | (maybe also some not-so-interesting stuff, didn't check all) |
| 13:14.54 | whitequark | cool |
| 13:16.00 | DocScrutinizer | what's .ua ? |
| 13:16.29 | DocScrutinizer | FLD |
| 13:17.01 | DocScrutinizer | unified arabia? |
| 13:17.38 | DocScrutinizer | aah no that's .uae |
| 13:19.14 | DocScrutinizer | Ukraine |
| 13:19.18 | DocScrutinizer | mhm |
| 13:21.00 | DocScrutinizer | and united arab emirates is actually .ae, not .uae |
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| 13:28.54 | DocScrutinizer | btw there's also docs |
| 13:42.18 | whitequark | yeah, ukraine |
| 13:42.57 | whitequark | on the headlines from adobe ghetto: flash compiler incorrectly translates this (very complex) code: http://pastie.org/3868546 |
| 13:43.10 | whitequark | I'm continously amazed by its stupidity |
| 13:43.28 | whitequark | fuck, how retarded should you be to translate a switch to an infinite loop. |
| 13:43.31 | whitequark | ... |
| 13:43.49 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 13:45.54 | whitequark | http://beta.primarypad.com/p/ZeFNZ4d7pV |
| 13:45.57 | whitequark | disasm |
| 13:47.07 | DocScrutinizer | and I thought that pascal compiler back when was retarded, when I inspected why code was so HUUUGE, just to find it compiles a "" case i of 0: dosomething; 5000: doanotherting; else ; end; "" to a jump table of length 5000 |
| 13:48.15 | DocScrutinizer | with 4998 jumps to the else-catchall |
| 13:48.39 | DocScrutinizer | err 4999, and 5001, actually |
| 13:49.56 | DocScrutinizer | well, optimization obviously wasn't a strong discipline of that PASCAL-M compiler ;-P |
| 13:50.50 | DocScrutinizer | but hey, the machine architecture offered 32k for code, plus 32k for data |
| 13:51.06 | whitequark | oh, you didn't seen some other switch statements |
| 13:51.37 | whitequark | http://hg.mozilla.org/tamarin-redux/file/b7e3811ee1ae/utils/abcdump.as#l1267 |
| 13:52.25 | whitequark | this is translated to a HUGE ternary operator (it doesn't fold constants), and a switch of form switch(hugeshit) { case 1: ... break; case 2: ... break; |
| 13:52.39 | whitequark | actually it looks pretty neat in disasm, like a piece of modern art |
| 13:53.44 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 13:54.11 | whitequark | behold: http://pastie.org/3868610 |
| 13:54.34 | whitequark | and it actually computes all that values in runtime at each pass |
| 13:55.41 | whitequark | I especially like the last ternary op |
| 13:57.09 | DocScrutinizer | ROTFL |
| 14:01.24 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: epic! couldn't you set up a blog or sth with it, so I can ink to it in my wtf-of-the-week link in mail sig? |
| 14:01.32 | DocScrutinizer | link even |
| 14:02.30 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer: sure |
| 14:10.47 | DocScrutinizer | btw with these PASCAL-M and COBOL-M compilers back when I worked for Siemens on M-70 machines, I had quite some fun: sometimes your only chance to get something fixed was to advice compiler to print the intermediate code /assembler listing to printer directly, so you could see on which codeline the compiler coredumps |
| 14:11.52 | whitequark | it's funny that I have a kind of similar issue with my decompiler |
| 14:12.15 | whitequark | until today it didn't have a "verbose" mode, so when it encountered a weird statement it just bailed out with a stacktrace |
| 14:12.17 | DocScrutinizer | otherwise you'd sit and wait 30min for compiler run to finish, to find it segfaulted and not a single diagnostic file got written (since all files weren't closed correctly and thus got removed on process abnormally quitting) |
| 14:12.53 | whitequark | 30min?! |
| 14:13.07 | DocScrutinizer | well, back in the mid 80s |
| 14:13.31 | whitequark | but I thought that codebases were smaller back then |
| 14:13.59 | DocScrutinizer | sure, as I told the arch allowed max 32k of unsegmented code |
| 14:14.23 | DocScrutinizer | still cobol could takes its time to build sth of that size |
| 14:15.01 | viric | whitequark: why you work so much with flash? |
| 14:15.12 | viric | seems to me a weird dedication |
| 14:15.14 | viric | :) |
| 14:15.48 | whitequark | viric: I'm being paid for it, and also the decompiler I'm writing is not your usual decompiler |
| 14:15.52 | viric | ah ok |
| 14:15.59 | whitequark | I'd rather call it a compiler of Flash bytecode to Flash source code |
| 14:16.19 | whitequark | similarly how, for example, Emscripten compiles LLVM IR to JavaScript |
| 14:16.21 | viric | do you write it in lisp? |
| 14:16.29 | whitequark | nah, Ruby |
| 14:16.35 | viric | is your target a human reader? |
| 14:16.36 | whitequark | but again, not your usual kind of Ruby :) |
| 14:17.03 | whitequark | yes. I can post some example code if you'd like |
| 14:17.13 | whitequark | the pastie above isn't the end result but an IR dump |
| 14:18.18 | whitequark | I think this came from Flex sources |
| 14:18.19 | whitequark | http://pastie.org/3868694 |
| 14:20.13 | viric | that's ruby? |
| 14:20.53 | whitequark | erm, no, this is a part of listing of decompiled ActionScript 3 code |
| 14:21.24 | whitequark | the sources of decompiler are on github |
| 14:21.26 | whitequark | e.g. https://github.com/whitequark/furnace-avm2/blob/master/lib/furnace-avm2/transform/cfg_reduce.rb |
| 14:26.05 | viric | ok |
| 14:27.25 | whitequark | do you have a need of reverse-engineering flash something? |
| 14:27.36 | viric | not at all |
| 14:34.00 | viric | With the panoramic screens, we got pictures at wrong aspect ratio all around |
| 14:34.22 | viric | And now with the panoramic home cameras, we double that! |
| 14:37.13 | DocScrutinizer | eh? |
| 14:37.15 | DocScrutinizer | TV? |
| 14:40.43 | viric | I'm seeing more and more videos uploaded to video hosting sites at wrong aspect ratio |
| 14:41.21 | DocScrutinizer | on 16:9 TV sets I found like 80% of users never noticed there is any such thing like format-indicator bit from TV station. Rather they watch all content on 16:9 now, and do not mind the football heads in stretched 4:3 media |
| 14:42.18 | viric | exactly. |
| 14:44.00 | DocScrutinizer | it's a real PITA that makes me wanna start amok actions - since mp3 people forgot how good music sounds, and don't care dynamic compression like 10:1 nor any clipping etc in music, even DJs in pubs torture me hour after hour with their broken equipment that produces like 20% THD - they obviously don't notice it :-/ |
| 14:44.42 | DocScrutinizer | same for video |
| 14:45.28 | DocScrutinizer | since DVB the quality of video images constantly getting worse rather than better as they used to promise |
| 14:45.51 | wpwrak | clipping is fun. uncompromisingly lossy compression :) |
| 14:45.59 | DocScrutinizer | and morons don't realize it |
| 14:46.16 | viric | People buying FullHD televisions, and then seeing stretched images in it. |
| 14:46.24 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 14:46.30 | wpwrak | but it's in 3D now !!11! ;-) |
| 14:46.39 | DocScrutinizer | makes me want to shoot them with owl shit |
| 14:46.40 | viric | 3d stretched people should frighten |
| 14:46.45 | wpwrak | viric: that's the best, yes |
| 14:47.20 | wpwrak | (2D stretched) haven't laid eyes on 3D yet. somehow, i don't think i'll be overly thrilled when that day comes :) |
| 14:47.30 | viric | having wrong aspect radio videos in youtube/vimeo/... is even more annoying for me. |
| 14:47.55 | viric | their flash players will have to add a switch for aspect ratio soon |
| 14:48.17 | wpwrak | what i find moth bothering there is that they forgot to implement the "download" link ... |
| 14:48.19 | DocScrutinizer | since there you can't even correct it by applying proper "zoom" setting like you could on TV |
| 14:48.38 | lindi- | wpwrak: forgot? |
| 14:50.59 | wpwrak | lindi-: never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by amnesia :) |
| 14:51.36 | viric | it's their way of staying able to give you more videos |
| 14:51.55 | DocScrutinizer | not in this case |
| 14:52.20 | DocScrutinizer | the lack of download feature is by design/concept |
| 14:53.12 | DocScrutinizer | adding a download button would turn youtube into a sharing filehoster |
| 14:57.13 | wpwrak | before: people see the video. after: people see the video. :) |
| 14:57.37 | viric | but they have ads |
| 14:57.44 | wpwrak | besides, the masses will gladly use streaming anyway |
| 14:58.19 | wpwrak | you can also put ads on the download page |
| 15:00.05 | lindi- | wpwrak: it's not so simple. many copyright holders have only agreed to streaming |
| 15:00.34 | lindi- | wpwrak: this is why the finnish broadcasting company also isn't offering downloads, only streaming |
| 15:03.04 | wpwrak | lindi-: bah, call it a "technical copy". like caching. c'mon, can't youtube afford a more creative legal team ? |
| 15:03.40 | lindi- | wpwrak: hmm? |
| 15:04.44 | lindi- | wpwrak: if youtube does something that the copyright holders don't like they are less likely to use youtube at all |
| 15:05.57 | wpwrak | then youtube could put some effort into making them like it. now that google own it, they have no excuse for being evil like the rest :) |
| 15:07.40 | lindi- | wpwrak: well most people don't want to download the videos so fighting for that probably doesn't justify the risk. those who really want to download the videos can already do it technically |
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| 15:08.06 | wpwrak | that's of course true |
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| 15:12.20 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer: done: http://whitequark.org/blog/2012/05/06/reaching-the-limits-of-adobe-stupidity/ |
| 15:13.06 | DocScrutinizer | heh :-D |
| 15:13.07 | lindi- | wpwrak: at least I heard they detect gnash |
| 15:14.11 | wpwrak | lindi-: as in "support" or as in "block" ? |
| 15:14.42 | lindi- | wpwrak: afaik the idea was to offer an older version of the player if gnash is detected and the newest version does not work with it |
| 15:15.15 | whitequark | lightspark should support their new player |
| 15:15.21 | whitequark | gnash doesn't know AS3 |
| 15:16.40 | wpwrak | lindi-: so they're nice. good :) |
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| 15:26.04 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer: there are a few other quirks mentioned too in the article |
| 15:35.35 | DocScrutinizer | whitequark: dang, this site/page needed >30s to render on 100% CPU load on one of my 1.6GHz cores |
| 15:59.35 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer: weird |
| 16:00.17 | whitequark | I guess it's Disqus embed which is misbehaving. the page itself is static. |
| 16:03.07 | whitequark | "2 people liked this" |
| 16:03.09 | whitequark | perverts! |
| 16:08.28 | whitequark | hah, I've been reddited |
| 16:12.58 | roh | flash just needs to die |
| 16:14.39 | whitequark | I want it not only die, but to be murdered violently and painfully |
| 16:14.48 | DocScrutinizer | roh: you got pestered by rah? |
| 16:15.14 | roh | yep |
| 16:15.20 | DocScrutinizer | thought as much |
| 16:15.41 | roh | explained a bit. we'll see if i am in the mood for paperwork tomorrow |
| 16:15.56 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
| 16:17.30 | DocScrutinizer | seem rah is an extremely lucky guy, to immediately get a hold of you on IRC |
| 16:19.25 | DocScrutinizer | anyway quite a number of people would appreciate docs. om.org coming back to real purpose |
| 16:20.01 | DocScrutinizer | wpwrak missed the svn or sth as well |
| 16:38.31 | whitequark | got a reply from ex-flex developer |
| 16:38.31 | whitequark | http://whitequark.org/blog/2012/05/06/reaching-the-limits-of-adobe-stupidity/#comment-520997383 |
| 16:56.26 | hozer | wolfspraul: well, maybe it's impressive from the open hardware point of view. |
| 16:57.23 | hozer | so I've gone off and decided I want to work on an open-source hardware power converter (integrated solar MPPT battery charger and inverter) |
| 16:59.51 | hozer | and as far as I can tell, the cheapest microcontroller I can get that also has ethernet is the PIC18F67 series |
| 17:10.07 | DocScrutinizer | omg, no matter where you look, every time the same stupidity. openmoko.org and maemo.org there are now fools that wonder how to fund new servers to migrate infra away from existing usually working and paid iron, while both ignore the real problem which is maintenance, not hw-funding |
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| 17:13.33 | DocScrutinizer | I guess none of those fools ever maintained an own exposed server of any kind. Otherwise I couldn't think of any way how they could ignore the problem there needs to be an *admin* for those servers |
| 17:19.14 | hozer | oh boy. But new hardware always solves the problem!!! |
| 17:19.42 | hozer | anyone here seen the mbed.org stuff? .. I may have found a better microcontroller |
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| 17:40.17 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/t9qxy/reaching_the_limits_of_adobe_stupidity/c4kruqj |
| 17:40.46 | whitequark | I cannot work anymore due to uncontrollable laughter :D |
| 17:42.37 | DocScrutinizer | hahaha |
| 17:42.57 | whitequark | also |
| 17:43.03 | whitequark | there's an -optimize option in compiler |
| 17:43.05 | whitequark | it DOES NOTHING |
| 17:43.09 | whitequark | ROFL. |
| 17:44.57 | wpwrak | maybe it creates optimal code by default ? :) |
| 17:46.08 | whitequark | wpwrak: read the original post ;) |
| 17:46.24 | hozer | it creates code opitimal for Adobe to continue to extract money from brain-dead tools |
| 17:47.24 | whitequark | Flex is FOSS |
| 17:48.50 | hozer | but does it actually work ;) |
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| 17:53.34 | whitequark | http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/t9qxy/reaching_the_limits_of_adobe_stupidity/c4krjcz |
| 17:55.06 | wpwrak | conspiracy theory #87236: Stroustrup is actually a nom de plume of K&R. they made C++ as a joke, to better show the greatness of C. of course, as the saying goes, the best laid plans of men and mice ... |
| 17:57.06 | whitequark | oooh, that quote "of men and mice" |
| 17:57.09 | whitequark | where does it come from? |
| 17:58.02 | Jay7 | I've seen this in BitchX quit messages iirc :) |
| 17:58.42 | viric | reminds me of that comic about jews and rats |
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| 18:03.41 | wpwrak | whitequark: it's an adaptation of a quote from Robert Burns: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Burns#United_States |
| 18:05.33 | wpwrak | for further exploration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_a_Mouse |
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| 18:39.28 | larsc | wasn't the inital release of the c++ spec published on a April 1st? |
| 18:39.37 | whitequark | wow. http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/t9qxy/reaching_the_limits_of_adobe_stupidity/c4kshfq |
| 18:39.51 | whitequark | Adobe employee: "don't use Adobe products." |
| 18:50.47 | larsc | that 'compiler' is basically just a parser isn't it? |
| 18:52.42 | whitequark | kinda |
| 18:52.52 | whitequark | you know, parsers generally don't make code any _worse_ |
| 18:53.07 | larsc | hehe |
| 18:53.15 | whitequark | but yes, it's a parser. that's why I can decompile the code almost intact |
| 18:53.30 | whitequark | there's so much hate on reddit |
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| 18:58.52 | alex431 | hey |
| 19:21.07 | whitequark | http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/t9qxy/reaching_the_limits_of_adobe_stupidity/c4kswc6 |
| 19:21.11 | whitequark | so. much. hate. |
| 19:39.06 | viric | dear c programmers... |
| 19:39.22 | viric | How can I print a float in a constrained amount of characters? |
| 19:39.27 | viric | using printf formatting |
| 19:39.55 | whitequark | %.4f ? |
| 19:40.06 | viric | f? hm |
| 19:41.06 | whitequark | http://pastie.org/3869994 |
| 19:41.09 | viric | but I want it to show significative digits |
| 19:41.19 | viric | not only those around the unit |
| 19:41.42 | viric | I may have 1e-20 |
| 19:41.45 | viric | or 1e20 |
| 19:41.54 | viric | or 0,05 |
| 19:44.13 | viric | '.N' seems of no effect to 'g' |
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| 21:51.33 | whitequark | DocScrutinizer: here are some more docs on SIM900* |
| 21:51.34 | whitequark | http://www.mt-system.ru/catalog/dokumentacija-na-gsm-modemy-simcom |
| 21:52.34 | DocScrutinizer | \o/ |
| 21:52.37 | DocScrutinizer | thanks |
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| 22:04.24 | wpwrak | whitequark: you're such an optimist. are you that sure you've already reached the limits of adobe's stupidity ? ;-) |
| 22:13.32 | whitequark | wpwrak: I needed a cool title. I got a cool title. It's controversional, hence people (including you) will talk about it |
| 22:14.40 | whitequark | if you'll look more into the article, it's not written in "scientific" or even "wiki" style (almost no references, for example), but, as a product of extreme hate, was carefully crafted to induce similar feelings in other human beings, and may I say that it has succeeded in that |
| 22:15.14 | whitequark | the fact that flash actually has all those issues is mostly irrelevant |
| 22:20.26 | wpwrak | hmm. not sure a lot of people get that emotional about flash |
| 22:21.20 | wpwrak | i suppose most already know it sucks in a more general sense. if the implementation if crappy too, that doesn't make it worse |
| 22:21.30 | whitequark | just read reddit comments |
| 22:21.51 | whitequark | I'm quite satisfied with the result :) |
| 22:21.54 | wpwrak | ;-) |
| 22:23.19 | whitequark | analytics report more than 3k unique visits |
| 22:23.35 | whitequark | pretty good for an article written because DocScrutinizer asked for a email signature |
| 22:23.51 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 22:25.45 | DocScrutinizer | I have a nose for good topics ;-D |
| 22:27.27 | DocScrutinizer | though obviously my colloquial English sucks |
| 22:27.59 | DocScrutinizer | well, German Presidents were worse |
| 22:28.14 | DocScrutinizer | "you are very heavy on wire" |
| 22:29.58 | whitequark | well, I won't even say I that I know English "moderately good" |
| 22:30.04 | whitequark | and what the hell does that quote mean? |
| 22:30.15 | wpwrak | and who said that ? |
| 22:32.09 | DocScrutinizer | anyway: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-May/066880.html |
| 22:34.06 | whitequark | after looking on a letter like this, I'd question if the organization is still alive at all |
| 22:34.36 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.focus.de/politik/videos/luebkes-erben-politicians-heavy-on-the-wire_vid_15182.html |
| 22:35.25 | wpwrak | ah, luebke. the classic ;) |
| 22:36.18 | wpwrak | a bit before my time, though |
| 22:36.19 | whitequark | http://www.englishforums.com/English/HeavyWireDoesIdiomMean/vbjwk/post.htm |
| 22:38.52 | wpwrak | the word-by-word translation to german yields an idiomatic expression for being very alert |
| 22:39.40 | wpwrak | http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/auf_Draht_sein |
| 23:16.51 | wolfspraul | hozer: that's an excellent project! |
| 23:17.14 | wolfspraul | can we give you some recommendations on tool choice, or anything else? |
| 23:17.41 | wolfspraul | do you have a blog/homepage? |
| 23:18.12 | wolfspraul | I just included the OggStreamer in the Qi planet yesterday, seems nice (unrelated to your power converter) |
| 23:18.43 | wolfspraul | http://oggstreamer.wordpress.com |
| 23:19.37 | wolfspraul | tools and structure of sources are the typical mess (Qi is no exception), but I didn't see anything really blocking like intentionally hidden stuff, -nc -nd etc. |
| 23:23.53 | wolfspraul | what are the rough specs and use cases for the power converter? |
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